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Author Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com  (Read 554361 times)
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February 11, 2014, 12:08:12 PM
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You haven't mentioned fees in the last few pages, given that the payouts have been pretty poor recently, even compared to other multipools, and you said that this means you take a lower fee% can you reveal what fee % you've taken over the last 7days? (Assuming 1%).
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February 11, 2014, 02:35:21 PM
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You haven't mentioned fees in the last few pages, given that the payouts have been pretty poor recently, even compared to other multipools, and you said that this means you take a lower fee% can you reveal what fee % you've taken over the last 7days? (Assuming 1%).

You can't compare payouts as different pools exchange their coins at different times. Coins mined in a day X can be paid out on X, X+1, X+2, X+n. Usually some coins are paid out in the same day that they were mined, some one day after, some two days after, occasionally delays are longer.

What you should compare are earnings on a given day including also unexchanged balances. And these weren't bad. We are sitting on a pile of unexchanged coins due to Cryptsy problems (other pools are suffering from this as well). Some coins are being exchanged without problems and are paid out quickly, but some are stuck between us and Cryptsy. Once these coins are exchanged, there will be a bigger payout as it will clear coins mined in the last days.

The average fee was higher than 1% but lower than 3%. I am setting the fee at a fixed 2% from now on until further notice (until I have time to work on this progressive fee idea).

I will update the website in the evening to reflect all recent changes (fixed fee, temporarily disabled vardiff, etc).

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February 11, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
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I was meaning the btc/day per mh on the site, that I believed was the gross net for the day per mh, exchanged, unexchanged, everything.
I think variable fee is a good idea, if you either put a cap on it, and also after the day list the previous days fee for example (so on good days people can see you charged 4% as opposed to guessing). To check that the fee cut % syns up with profitability.
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February 11, 2014, 03:33:55 PM
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You haven't mentioned fees in the last few pages, given that the payouts have been pretty poor recently, even compared to other multipools, and you said that this means you take a lower fee% can you reveal what fee % you've taken over the last 7days? (Assuming 1%).


The average fee was higher than 1% but lower than 3%. I am setting the fee at a fixed 2% from now on until further notice (until I have time to work on this progressive fee idea).


Just leave it there
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February 11, 2014, 04:59:35 PM
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May I ask why vardiff cannot be turned on if you think you have fixed the problems?
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February 11, 2014, 05:44:20 PM
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Do you have any plans to offer alternate payout currencies? I am thinking specifically Litecoin.

I might think about it once the post-launch dust settles.

Just like to say that I would second this bid for alternate payout (LTC).  I haven't actually settled on a specific pool yet after mining several different ones, but if you could offer payouts in BTC and/or LTC, that would sway me heavily in favor of yours.  Keep up the good work!
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February 11, 2014, 06:34:06 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.
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February 11, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.
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February 11, 2014, 07:45:30 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.

Because you have a crappy card the whole pool must change for you? are you serious? are you a spoiled child?  Shocked ohh and its 256/512/1024
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February 11, 2014, 08:35:06 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.

Because you have a crappy card the whole pool must change for you? are you serious? are you a spoiled child?  Shocked ohh and its 256/512/1024

First, sir, insults won't get you anywhere, and I am not a spoiled child.
Second, you must take note that not everyone mines with huge rigs, although I am building one right now.
Also, that crappy attitude won't get you anywhere.
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February 11, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
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Cryptsy deposits mostly went through, unexchanged balance is lowered and payouts were sent.

Underlying stratum server which I built the pool on was really crappy in storing shares in database and I rewrote this part. Vardiff was relying on this and I need to write my own vardiff engine if I want vardiff enabled. This is not difficult but I have more urgent tasks right now. I will lower difficulty to 256 as soon as I deploy a new server for the pool. I will work on vardiff next week. It will be either vardiff or selecting your own difficulty by using a password like “diff-256”. I haven't decided yet. The second option would be quicker to develop, but I don't want people hammering the pool with shares sent every five seconds just because they like when their cgminer output is scrolling faster.

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February 11, 2014, 09:28:39 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.

Because you have a crappy card the whole pool must change for you? are you serious? are you a spoiled child?  Shocked ohh and its 256/512/1024

First, sir, insults won't get you anywhere, and I am not a spoiled child.
Second, you must take note that not everyone mines with huge rigs, although I am building one right now.
Also, that crappy attitude won't get you anywhere.

But you understand what you asks from de PO and the people who are mining?
Later you have a new whish when your setup has changed? Again please change this and that?

Ohh and you are not less then anyone with a bigger rig, that was not the purpose of my message
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February 11, 2014, 09:30:50 PM
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why dont mine ltc when theres no other options that are more proitable ?
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February 11, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.

Because you have a crappy card the whole pool must change for you? are you serious? are you a spoiled child?  Shocked ohh and its 256/512/1024

First, sir, insults won't get you anywhere, and I am not a spoiled child.
Second, you must take note that not everyone mines with huge rigs, although I am building one right now.
Also, that crappy attitude won't get you anywhere.

But you understand what you asks from de PO and the people who are mining?
Later you have a new whish when your setup has changed? Again please change this and that?

Ohh and you are not less then anyone with a bigger rig, that was not the purpose of my message

The setup won't have to be changed in the future. Vardiff works out the best difficulty for you according to your hashrate. It doesn't matter what hashrate you have, it always gives you the best one.
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February 11, 2014, 09:42:20 PM
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I have a small setup and even with middlecoin mining with 1024, I was perfectly fine and still making good money. Time for now is better spent elsewhere I'm sure, fixing various issues and such.
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February 11, 2014, 10:23:46 PM
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I have a small setup and even with middlecoin mining with 1024, I was perfectly fine and still making good money. Time for now is better spent elsewhere I'm sure, fixing various issues and such.

Small setup as in how much?
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February 11, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
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My Laptop with 300 khash is running fine on the 512 difficult. It fluctates more but in the average the reportet hashrate fits to the hashrate shown in cgminer.
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February 11, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
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I have a small setup and even with middlecoin mining with 1024, I was perfectly fine and still making good money. Time for now is better spent elsewhere I'm sure, fixing various issues and such.

Small setup as in how much?

One card at 220kh/s and my other card around 730kh/s.
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February 11, 2014, 11:17:25 PM
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.

Over time you will find that a higher diff will average the same income as a lower diff.  Look at your WU stat in CG Miner, this shows you your Work Utility per minute.

CG Miner docs give the description of WU as "WU: The Work Utility defined as the number of diff1 shares work / minute (accepted or rejected)."

Your WU will never match your hashrate, but it should be close, a difference of about -10% isn't too much to worry about.

Remember you would need to find 2 x 256 diff shares in a minute to achieve the same WU as 1 x 512 diff share a minute.  So yes you may find less shares, but they are worth more to you.  



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February 12, 2014, 01:34:28 AM
Last edit: February 12, 2014, 09:22:54 AM by dency45
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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff.  Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower.  I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024.  The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks.  I just like the website here better.

Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares.

What is your gpu? I got r9 290 with 883 kh/s mining in middlecoin. I mined yesterday in middlecoin for 24 hrs now and my Total BTC in a day is 0.012. I will switch to this pool after it is stable.
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