[NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.---

[patmast3r]

Whats the status on my share buy?

2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1

I pmed you about this before, its showing "possible duplicate hash fraudster" next to my account name on the shareholder spreadsheet.

That means that either you are a fraudster or someone used your hash. If it's legitametely your hash you have nothing to worry about. Since updating the list and validating hashes is a manual task it can take a bit of time. Please show a little patience. Thank you.

[utopianfuture]

I opted as a stakeholder here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4858419#msg4858419

I accidentally copy/pasted the NXT address from the payment as transaction ID, i got marked in the list as possible hash fraudster.

I sent utopian future the proper transaction id and also edited the original post to contain the right transaction id.

sent friday 31 january 2014 16:31:22
transaction id: 1311926364865472858

I would like to get some feedback on this.
I sent PM's and posted the issue at hand here, yet nothing has been resolved.
My status in the list is still set to 'possible double hash fraudster'.

Solved. But remember that I have to make sure the new hash is not a copy of someone else. A lot of extra times is spent when I have to go back and check everything.

[utopianfuture]

Hi,

No idea how this could happen, but someone stole my tx-id BEFORE I made my post... 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4771489;topicseen#msg4771489

User Cliftonny used MY id: 2b437119ffcf5ed5de43d7d8fc623dece1119cdd37f21f63ed769ac0b1194311


Another one  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4770648;topicseen#msg4770648
User ShooterMoore used my second tx-id (Flepper): df9a45d36c9fd6be4cd7714fc2967f7a801ae8c4d596385934b8049faaf0b3f9

For my second stake of user Flepper, which is also mine (for my brother: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3667.msg34622.html#msg34622)


Would you like me to sent another small payment to prove those are mine?

Thread 1 issue. Please wait for a while.

[utopianfuture]

Post here if you have complaints, questions or appeals about your NEM stakeholder's status.

Main registration thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.0
Stakeholder list is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0 ; so please read it carefully first.

the ultimate proof for your stakeholder's status is your transaction to NEM's account and the proof that you owns the sending address of that transaction. So don't worry if you did send your money to join NEM but has not yet appear in the list because we will make it right in the end. But be patient when we work things out.

UP

hello utopianfuture

I have make an mistake in my post from 07 February i have sent my Nxt for stakeholder from my Nxt account:
6345610102089992591

here the Screenshot from nxt Blockchain

TRANSACTION    :   14176812516579885247

» Timestamp    :   07.02.2014 08:04:11
» Block    :   17973778596644879889
» Amount    :   600
» Fee    :   1
» Confirmations    :   3
» Deadline    :   1440
» Sender    :   6345610102089992591
» Recipient    :   14343293611098709683
» Signature | 64ae68425d24d44b30463b158aaed986a936e2f9ad10ee2f7b12dacad6cee70082f138e652de0cf a23e0244d46a920065c79df0978b1775bea213d47ab4bf736

I come from Germany and i m not the Member:MI
i can send you my passport to your emailadress when you give me this and you can check this with Member: MI
Please check this and list me correct in the stakeholder list sorry for my bad English
mfg. Dreamworldgp

Duplicate hashes.

2408   Mi                 10882167034731000000
2412   Dreamworldgp   10882167034731000000


change to new id 14176812516579885247, time stamp match, not a duplicate hash ---> okie

SOLVED.

[utopianfuture]

Whats the status on my share buy?

2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1

I pmed you about this before, its showing "possible duplicate hash fraudster" next to my account name on the shareholder spreadsheet.

duplicate hashes

2088   mr.pj   2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1
2167   c2e   2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1

Sent a small amount to NEM address from your sending address to prove the ownership of this hash.

[ajtan428]

Hi utopianfuture,

I see on the stakeholder list there is a possible duplicate hash on what I sent.  Please let me know how I can prove that I did send that.

Thanks!

Hi utopianfuture,

Following up on this post. Stakeholder list indicated:

1640       ajtan428      possible duplicate hash fraudster

If there is a duplicate hash, the other person is the fraudster as this was really sent by me. Do let me know how I can prove this to you. Thanks.

[mikesbmw]

Hi,

No idea how this could happen, but someone stole my tx-id BEFORE I made my post... 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4771489;topicseen#msg4771489

User Cliftonny used MY id: 2b437119ffcf5ed5de43d7d8fc623dece1119cdd37f21f63ed769ac0b1194311


Another one  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4770648;topicseen#msg4770648
User ShooterMoore used my second tx-id (Flepper): df9a45d36c9fd6be4cd7714fc2967f7a801ae8c4d596385934b8049faaf0b3f9

For my second stake of user Flepper, which is also mine (for my brother: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3667.msg34622.html#msg34622)


Would you like me to sent another small payment to prove those are mine?

Thread 1 issue. Please wait for a while.

No problem, I will wait.

[utopianfuture]

Hi utopianfuture,

I see on the stakeholder list there is a possible duplicate hash on what I sent.  Please let me know how I can prove that I did send that.

Thanks!

Hi utopianfuture,

Following up on this post. Stakeholder list indicated:

1640       ajtan428      possible duplicate hash fraudster

If there is a duplicate hash, the other person is the fraudster as this was really sent by me. Do let me know how I can prove this to you. Thanks.

Another case of duplicate hashes

166   hukliberi   6aa8bb5a2debd4065401063b671f3b4759c15de4805b93198ac9b2cc33b5b32a
192   ajtan428   6aa8bb5a2debd4065401063b671f3b4759c15de4805b93198ac9b2cc33b5b32a

@ajtan428 could you prove the ownership of that transaction by sending very small amount of BTC from that sending address to NEM address - do that and pm me the hash of the transaction.

[boarf]

Hello,
I'm not on the stakeholder list, I've done my registration on page 61 of the registration thread part 2.

I'm still a newbie to this so please tell me if I've done anything wrong.

Thanks.

[j23a]

My posts from page 41 part 2 was marked as a possible duplicate account with an account named botija on page 49.

What happened was that I was under the impression that I could buy 2 stakes. I had bought one stake in page 86 of part one with j23a, and since I thought 2 were allowed, I thought why not buy another before the price keeps going up. So I decided to buy another one I believe on page 41, because why not if it's within the rules. (I should mention that I've been heavily promoting this coin in my daily life, since I do want it to succeed and for it to be very spread out. Most people dismiss it, but some do look into it.) But later on in the development page for NEM I read that a person cannot buy two stakes per account. But that the solution would be to delete the post that I did with j23a on page 41, create a new account and post the transaction ID from page 41 on the new account. Which is what I did.

Here's the account named botija on page 49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.960

The account is legitimate, not trying to steal my stake, it was just a moment of low reading comprehension. Don't know what will happen since I could still be misinterpreting the rules.

[Telmo]

Hi!

I made a donation (post  #1196, 60 page, 600 NXT amount).

87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=4470112672885082437
Transaction ID 4470112672885082437.

But, in NEM Stakeholder list (no. 2545), in my note - bogus transaction.

Check please.

Best regards.

[nwtrades]

utopianfuture, I sent the required BTC amount and posted on Registration thread (part 2) page 13 post #250 and I am not listed in the updated stakeholder list.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4879398#msg4879398

Transaction ID: f8b6dfd932deadbc1421be9a7f8bdf6069edcda9c6d8625735f0d64828860d62
Blockchain: http://blockchain.info/tx/f8b6dfd932deadbc1421be9a7f8bdf6069edcda9c6d8625735f0d64828860d62

[nembit86]

I was put down as a possible double hash fraudster.  Number 1867 on second thread.

To prove it was my account I was to send 1nxt coin.

I have done this.

   6028409538480010340     id     
          15807217056481604769   my account number

As I said before I have no idea what this other guy was trying to do .

[jkoil]

An alternative to solve the duplicated transactions :


 NEM group handles one case ('stake reserved _money_ account') at a time as follows.

1.  NEM group sends PM's to suspected names (possibly only 2), who claim that
   they own the account. NEM group asks them to send 1, 2, ... or 10 NXTs.
   * Extra check, if there is a very active and anxious fraudster: Each candidate is asked to
   send a different amount of money. So that fraudsters can't explain
   that they just sent the 2 NXts from THE account, when they saw that kind of transaction
   from THE account to NEM account. Explanations are not enough, coz they were asked to send 4 NXT
 

2.  All the receivers send the requsted money from their accounts.

3. NEM group compares the sending accounts to the original 'stake reserved account'.

4. NEM group returns the NXTs, which were sent in this extra check.
   If the anxious fraudster sends some NXTs, they are kept for the NEM group





This IPO has good features by being so public, but some of the process must not be public.
Maybe at this time, the not public part is the last verification.

[utopianfuture]

My posts from page 41 part 2 was marked as a possible duplicate account with an account named botija on page 49.

What happened was that I was under the impression that I could buy 2 stakes. I had bought one stake in page 86 of part one with j23a, and since I thought 2 were allowed, I thought why not buy another before the price keeps going up. So I decided to buy another one I believe on page 41, because why not if it's within the rules. (I should mention that I've been heavily promoting this coin in my daily life, since I do want it to succeed and for it to be very spread out. Most people dismiss it, but some do look into it.) But later on in the development page for NEM I read that a person cannot buy two stakes per account. But that the solution would be to delete the post that I did with j23a on page 41, create a new account and post the transaction ID from page 41 on the new account. Which is what I did.

Here's the account named botija on page 49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.960

The account is legitimate, not trying to steal my stake, it was just a moment of low reading comprehension. Don't know what will happen since I could still be misinterpreting the rules.

SOLVED. I gave the stake to botija. j23a still has one earlier.

[utopianfuture]

Hi!

I made a donation (post  #1196, 60 page, 600 NXT amount).

87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=4470112672885082437
Transaction ID 4470112672885082437.

But, in NEM Stakeholder list (no. 2545), in my note - bogus transaction.

Check please.

Best regards.

This transaction was not there when I complied list. Anyway since this is not a duplicate transaction with correct time-stamp. I have changed the status. SOLVED.

[utopianfuture]

utopianfuture, I sent the required BTC amount and posted on Registration thread (part 2) page 13 post #250 and I am not listed in the updated stakeholder list.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4879398#msg4879398

Transaction ID: f8b6dfd932deadbc1421be9a7f8bdf6069edcda9c6d8625735f0d64828860d62
Blockchain: http://blockchain.info/tx/f8b6dfd932deadbc1421be9a7f8bdf6069edcda9c6d8625735f0d64828860d62

You are already in. No. 1695 p11-20.

[utopianfuture]

I was put down as a possible double hash fraudster.  Number 1867 on second thread.

To prove it was my account I was to send 1nxt coin.

I have done this.

   6028409538480010340     id     
          15807217056481604769   my account number

As I said before I have no idea what this other guy was trying to do .

A duplicate hash case

403   tomahawkerson   8715291008747360972
434   nembit86           8715291008747360972

nembit is a proven owner. Thanks nembit.

[utopianfuture]

Hello,
I'm not on the stakeholder list, I've done my registration on page 61 of the registration thread part 2.

I'm still a newbie to this so please tell me if I've done anything wrong.

Thanks.

Page 61. The official list is not updated to you. Patience is needed. Thanks.

[jkoil]

An alternative to solve the duplicated transactions :


 NEM group handles one case ('stake reserved _money_ account') at a time as follows.

1.  NEM group sends PM's to suspected names (possibly only 2), who claim that
   they own the account. NEM group asks them to send 1, 2, ... or 10 NXTs.
   * Extra check, if there is a very active and anxious fraudster: Each candidate is asked to
   send a different amount of money. So that fraudsters can't explain
   that they just sent the 2 NXts from THE account, when they saw that kind of transaction
   from THE account to NEM account. Explanations are not enough, coz they were asked to send 4 NXT
 

2.  All the receivers send the requsted money from their accounts.

3. NEM group compares the sending accounts to the original 'stake reserved account'.

4. NEM group returns the NXTs, which were sent in this extra check.
   If the anxious fraudster sends some NXTs, they are kept for the NEM group





This IPO has good features by being so public, but some of the process must not be public.
Maybe at this time, the not public part is the last verification.

jumped to the step 2. and sent a pm to u & k.