utopianfuture (OP)
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February 13, 2014, 03:47:17 AM |
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An alternative to solve the duplicated transactions : NEM group handles one case ('stake reserved _money_ account') at a time as follows. 1. NEM group sends PM's to suspected names (possibly only 2), who claim that they own the account. NEM group asks them to send 1, 2, ... or 10 NXTs. * Extra check, if there is a very active and anxious fraudster: Each candidate is asked to send a different amount of money. So that fraudsters can't explain that they just sent the 2 NXts from THE account, when they saw that kind of transaction from THE account to NEM account. Explanations are not enough, coz they were asked to send 4 NXT 2. All the receivers send the requsted money from their accounts. 3. NEM group compares the sending accounts to the original 'stake reserved account'. 4. NEM group returns the NXTs, which were sent in this extra check. If the anxious fraudster sends some NXTs, they are kept for the NEM group This IPO has good features by being so public, but some of the process must not be public. Maybe at this time, the not public part is the last verification. jumped to the step 2. and sent a pm to u & k. your case has been solved in your favor a while ago. 1273 jkoil Y duplicate hash- proven stakeholder
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c2e
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February 13, 2014, 05:07:06 AM |
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Whats the status on my share buy?
2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1
I pmed you about this before, its showing "possible duplicate hash fraudster" next to my account name on the shareholder spreadsheet.
duplicate hashes 2088 mr.pj 2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1 2167 c2e 2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1 Sent a small amount to NEM address from your sending address to prove the ownership of this hash. I sent .0002btc with a public note for verification. db934e5849efe96bb6b610818f8efcfeca5ee2e220a65ba1c488797b292f10d5
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pgb
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February 13, 2014, 08:49:12 PM |
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Hi ,
I would like to know the status of my girlfriends share that I booked for her a while ago under my username. I can see that in the list of shareholders next to my name it says "Y" and "duplicate hash". Also in the Hash Check GGSS I can see that another user (lemonjuice1972) has the same hash, so I guess he's claiming his spot with our transaction, am I right?
Any chance you can let me know if her stake is safe?, she is very interested.
TXID : a55981bd394f5fac73d30c4ca83ff79623ce55e112a80ce15945fb96c3a21553
I can send you a pic showing the transaction if you need it.
Thanks for letting me know Pgb
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NEM : TAFTFJ-JJ4XTW-FNYZU7-HZR2Y2-RXIKEW-QIOWFJ-WM4N
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startselect
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February 14, 2014, 05:20:57 AM |
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Hello all I copied and pasted the wrong number and so got a bogus transaction. I believe I copied my NXT address. That was on page 33. I fixed and put the correct transaction ID. This was on page 33, number 649. Here's the link to the post, to make it easier to verify. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4921350#msg4921350Sorry for the extra work.
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NastyTrades
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February 14, 2014, 07:02:09 AM |
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Correcting my bogus transaction. I accidentally put the wrong confirmation #.
Nasty Trades Page 33 Sent 500 NXT Correct Confirmation #:10591496887656065214
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patmast3r
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February 14, 2014, 07:09:12 AM |
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Correcting my bogus transaction. I accidentally put the wrong confirmation #.
Nasty Trades Page 33 Sent 500 NXT Correct Confirmation #:10591496887656065214
Could you please update your post in the registration thread as well ? Thanks !
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Bonz
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February 14, 2014, 08:16:46 AM Last edit: February 14, 2014, 08:38:07 AM by Bonz |
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i'm not seeing myself on the stakeholders list (maybe i'm blind) but here is my spot reservation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4809983#msg4809983can someone add me or tell me what number i am on the list cause i'm not seeing it Never mind i found it #1310 so the better question is how would you like me to proove that that is my transaction? i could screen shot my multibit transaction
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If I've helped you, who knows it could happen =) PLZ donate BTC - 34CGHYkhKi2eFP5GBhtsNpQdFvrxo7WT1u LTC - WfGiVRgBTLWzfiEfg69QVReWiDvMuQxxHW FTC - 9x9DT1QDe9bP5E75gSDnkwbVWmwjevpiAQ CRC - Q5swva1yTrD3Gh7HijDSiETvk6evpe5apl
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patmast3r
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February 14, 2014, 08:28:21 AM |
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You are 1310. Don't worry about the dupl. hash. If you haven't used someone elses hash then you'll be alright. You'll prol have to prove it somehow though.
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Bonz
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February 14, 2014, 08:38:51 AM |
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You are 1310. Don't worry about the dupl. hash. If you haven't used someone elses hash then you'll be alright. You'll prol have to prove it somehow though. wow your quick you posted while i was editing my post =D
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If I've helped you, who knows it could happen =) PLZ donate BTC - 34CGHYkhKi2eFP5GBhtsNpQdFvrxo7WT1u LTC - WfGiVRgBTLWzfiEfg69QVReWiDvMuQxxHW FTC - 9x9DT1QDe9bP5E75gSDnkwbVWmwjevpiAQ CRC - Q5swva1yTrD3Gh7HijDSiETvk6evpe5apl
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parallel38
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February 14, 2014, 09:33:55 AM |
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when will this be addressed? thanks.
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patmast3r
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February 14, 2014, 09:42:08 AM |
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when will this be addressed? thanks. There will be a public auditing once registration is over. That's the latest point possible. However it could very well be that uptopian will address this sooner - hard to say since there are quite a few people with problems.
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utopianfuture (OP)
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February 14, 2014, 01:05:42 PM |
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when will this be addressed? thanks. There will be a public auditing once registration is over. That's the latest point possible. However it could very well be that uptopian will address this sooner - hard to say since there are quite a few people with problems. patmast3r will take care of this stake complaint thread from now on. So please PM him if your information is sensitive, otherwise just post the your case here and we will deal with it in an order. Thanks.
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utopianfuture (OP)
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February 14, 2014, 02:51:42 PM |
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patmast3r
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February 15, 2014, 08:32:44 AM |
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A maximum of 2 accounts is that so hard to understand? You notice now how many feel caught and defend with tall tales their share. The best part is the lie that it is for friends and family, 99% want to share for himself. How should Crypto function if everyone is sitting with his 20 shares? Not at all! My 2 share later goes for the development and donations on it and not to enrich me how many there try here. That they do not even understand the so-NEM can only fail if here have some +5 shares!
It is not difficult to understand. I agree with you about the fact that holding so many accounts will harm the distribution. That's the reason why I expose my case to the community. But, as far as understand the number is somewhat between 3 and 10, according to different opinions. I think 3, which represent around 0.1% of the total number of accounts, is not dumping the equal distribution and the fair principles that gobern NEM. If you (the community), decides that the minimum is 2; then I will request the refund of one of the accounts. Such things will be dealt with in the auditing that will occur when registration is over. However with 1 account per stake you guys should be fine. Just participate in the NEM !
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patmast3r
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February 15, 2014, 08:36:04 AM |
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As utopian has already told you thread 1 is still under auditing. Please be patient everything will be dealt with. Thank you.
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patmast3r
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February 15, 2014, 08:42:20 AM |
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Whats the status on my share buy?
2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1
I pmed you about this before, its showing "possible duplicate hash fraudster" next to my account name on the shareholder spreadsheet.
duplicate hashes 2088 mr.pj 2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1 2167 c2e 2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1 Sent a small amount to NEM address from your sending address to prove the ownership of this hash. I sent .0002btc with a public note for verification. db934e5849efe96bb6b610818f8efcfeca5ee2e220a65ba1c488797b292f10d5 @Utopian: This looks legit. c2e is NOT the fraudster.
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patmast3r
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February 15, 2014, 08:55:07 AM |
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Hi ,
I would like to know the status of my girlfriends share that I booked for her a while ago under my username. I can see that in the list of shareholders next to my name it says "Y" and "duplicate hash". Also in the Hash Check GGSS I can see that another user (lemonjuice1972) has the same hash, so I guess he's claiming his spot with our transaction, am I right?
Any chance you can let me know if her stake is safe?, she is very interested.
TXID : a55981bd394f5fac73d30c4ca83ff79623ce55e112a80ce15945fb96c3a21553
I can send you a pic showing the transaction if you need it.
Thanks for letting me know Pgb
The rule is that you can buy 2 stakes but it needs to be from 2 different btctalk accounts. Please repost the second buy in under a new account. We do this because people are not supposed to be investors but participants. It's hard to participate without an account Regarding the duplicate hash: Please provide proof that 1DdV8PAW3x52P5R9kMwZcoTXCrhQjDRFog is your adress. Send another very small amount of btc and please add a public note with your user name. Thank you.
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patmast3r
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February 15, 2014, 08:59:17 AM |
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Hello all I copied and pasted the wrong number and so got a bogus transaction. I believe I copied my NXT address. That was on page 33. I fixed and put the correct transaction ID. This was on page 33, number 649. Here's the link to the post, to make it easier to verify. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4921350#msg4921350Sorry for the extra work. @Utopian: The TX looks legit please extend a "Y" as it is not a bogus transactions. The timestamps don't correlate though so we might have to check later for duplicate hash.
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patmast3r
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February 15, 2014, 09:04:07 AM |
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when will this be addressed? thanks. @Utopian: The TX seems legit so please give him a "Y". The timstamps however do not correlate so he should be check for duplicate hash during auditing of thread 2.
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SlyWax
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February 15, 2014, 12:14:06 PM |
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I have been waiting for the thread 1 list to be updated for days, but since nothing happened, I'll post here. N° 1085 on stakeholder list : SlyWax Thread 1 post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4787819#msg4787819transaction ID : b67870e1cc41db2b1539de9fdce6e89365534c4ac0bb5a6ceaac1fc399b2a42c Please put an Y on front of my name. Thanks.
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