[TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits

[KingsDen]

...I do try to save merits for lower-ranked members, and I love it when I can help a deserving individual rank up.

You have proven this, and your record is straight about this and I believe some other merit sources share in your ideology. I admit that the ability to notice a quality post is easy and everyone can do so, but the ability to define the future of a newbie or a lower ranking member needs a little of psychology, since there is not ample statistics (yardstick) to measure.

But every merit source is different in their approach to the "job", and I'm not sure how much can be generalized about them as far as who they distribute merits to...

But every job has specifications and/or KPI, which is the bases of the job. Everyone's approach should not deviate extensively from the job specifications. This might be far from reality if it's an unmonitored work without pay. To the best of my knowledge, the merit system is working well, I am also a testimony, but my concern was when I saw data showing 50% merit allocation to Legendaries.

[JayJuanGee]

I think it could be argued that generally, legendaries are more likely to be posting better content, but without going through each post, that would likely be hard to accurately predict.

Apart from the fact that legendaries are more likely to be good content posters, let us consider this;
The merit sources who also are more of legendaries have been here for a long time. They have been meeting one another here for many years, apart from the content of the posts, they have falling inlove with the writing patterns of one another, their tones, how humorous, commanding or entertaining they will be. So, meriting such posts becomes a habit, most times without paying attention to the contents.

That is adaptation, a strong human character you cannot undermined. For the newbies or low ranking members to have such a share, they must last longer here and develop a unique writing style lovable by many.

Secondly, the law of reciprocation is indirectly playing out. Merit seems to flow to those who has the ability and enablement to reciprocate. A Merit source can easily give out 50merits to a legendary fellow, knowing too well that it is cyclical, re-genaratable and reciprocal.

Finally, I believe merit sources do not give higher merits to lower ranking members because they believe they may abuse the smerits they will have as a result of the given merits. It's somewhat showing that the merit system works in conjunction with the trust system. If you are trusted, you are trusted with merits too. Knowing too well you may not play the hide and seek game with your alt on merit issuance.

I am of the opinion that lower ranking member(s) who is able to produce a few quality posts, can be trusted and has a decent history of smerit allocation should benefit evenly because they are the future of bitcointalk.
Thank you!

Something seems wrong with your "love" theory, and also how much importance you are placing on the reciprocal nature theory.  I am not suggesting that neither of those exist, but you seem to be give quite a bit of weight to those ideas - that I consider a bit much..

Also, something about your theory of redistribution is off.  I do understand that members have mentioned redistribution as their motives, but I doubt that too many members give as many shits about redistribution as they are making out to be... either the post that is being merited (or the member) is good and deserving of merit or not.. I personally give not too many shits about whether they redistribute (even though again, redistribution is not a non-zero factor, but it just does not carry a lot of weight in my thinking about whether or not to send an smerit or perhaps a few smerits.

[aysg76]

Apart from the fact that legendaries are more likely to be good content posters, let us consider this;
The merit sources who also are more of legendaries have been here for a long time. They have been meeting one another here for many years, apart from the content of the posts, they have falling inlove with the writing patterns of one another, their tones, how humorous, commanding or entertaining they will be. So, meriting such posts becomes a habit, most times without paying attention to the contents.

Although the hero or legendary members who have been on the forum from a long time and tend to know each other will not give any merit to other if the post quality don't match the meriting criteria or is not of that quality.The writing patterns fan following is obviously there like @JJG is famous for his long and elaborated wall of text giving replies in depth and explaining the other members but you can't say he is writing something off-topic or dragging up the topic so if other legendary members merit that post it's fine and worth it.They might give some extra merits compared to newbie account but not on the verge of ignorance.

Secondly, the law of reciprocation is indirectly playing out. Merit seems to flow to those who has the ability and enablement to reciprocate. A Merit source can easily give out 50merits to a legendary fellow, knowing too well that it is cyclical, re-genaratable and reciprocal.

Sometimes merit sources help each other if they eun out of merits to allocate the same to other quality posts on the forum.We can't say they are abusing the system but in the end they are not going to hoard them but spend all of them as they will regenerate them next month.You can see most of the sources are ready to help new members also to rank them up only if they gave good out of their posts and contribute effectively.

Finally, I believe merit sources do not give higher merits to lower ranking members because they believe they may abuse the smerits they will have as a result of the given merits. It's somewhat showing that the merit system works in conjunction with the trust system. If you are trusted, you are trusted with merits too. Knowing too well you may not play the hide and seek game with your alt on merit issuance.

Like many new members have got many merits for their posts like @Rainbowkun,@Kaggie and you yourself why? Because you all have contributed for the same.You will find many such members in local sub-boards also with 30-40 activity and more than 200 merits gained with account registration this year only.This is because they are getting merits from legendary and sources.

I am of the opinion that lower ranking member(s) who is able to produce a few quality posts, can be trusted and has a decent history of smerit allocation should benefit evenly because they are the future of bitcointalk.
Thank you!

No doubt they are future of the forum but it needs to be tested that whether the future is in safe hands or not and that takes time to judge the writing style of newbies account and if they continue to the same and effective posting the rewards and rank up are on your way.

I'll admit I know which Hero & Legendary members tend to make quality posts, but I try not to merit them often, and if I do give them merits, it's usually a small number.  I do try to save merits for lower-ranked members, and I love it when I can help a deserving individual rank up.

I have noticed the same thing that you help most of the members who are quality posters and contributing to the forum and left with little merits to rank up you help them by giving them required merits.Every member have his different approach of sending smerits and the main purpose is to merit the good posts in any way you can do.Your way of helping inspires lot.

[KingsDen]

I personally give not too many shits about whether they redistribute (even though again, redistribution is not a non-zero factor, but it just does not carry a lot of weight in my thinking about whether or not to send an smerit or perhaps a few smerits.

Actually, it does not carry much weight and doesn't need much emphasis, however it's worthy to be noted. It actually boils down to individual differences and approaches to the forum.

[PastorNick]

Apart from the fact that legendaries are more likely to be good content posters, let us consider this;
The merit sources who also are more of legendaries have been here for a long time. They have been meeting one another here for many years, apart from the content of the posts, they have falling inlove with the writing patterns of one another, their tones, how humorous, commanding or entertaining they will be. So, meriting such posts becomes a habit, most times without paying attention to the contents.

That is adaptation, a strong human character you cannot undermined. For the newbies or low ranking members to have such a share, they must last longer here and develop a unique writing style lovable by many.

Secondly, the law of reciprocation is indirectly playing out. Merit seems to flow to those who has the ability and enablement to reciprocate. A Merit source can easily give out 50merits to a legendary fellow, knowing too well that it is cyclical, re-genaratable and reciprocal.

Finally, I believe merit sources do not give higher merits to lower ranking members because they believe they may abuse the smerits they will have as a result of the given merits. It's somewhat showing that the merit system works in conjunction with the trust system. If you are trusted, you are trusted with merits too. Knowing too well you may not play the hide and seek game with your alt on merit issuance.

I am of the opinion that lower ranking member(s) who is able to produce a few quality posts, can be trusted and has a decent history of smerit allocation should benefit evenly because they are the future of bitcointalk.
Thank you!

Maybe you can start with yourself instead of blaming the source of merit.

What you really care about is not how many merits the legend gives to newbies, what you care most is how many merits the legend gives you.

Legendary	54	78.26%
HeroMember	5	7.25%
Sr.Member	5	7.25%
FullMember	1	1.45%
Member	1	1.45%
Jr.Member	2	2.90%
Newbie	1	1.45%

Let us analyze your data：

• You have sent a total of 97 merits, of which only 1 went to Newbie (me).Account for 1.45% of your total number of merits.
• Corresponding to this is that you sent a legend to 54 merits, Accounting for 78.26% of your total number of merits.

You even posted this post before:[NEWBIES] Earn your first Merit..But obviously this is a show, except for a merit you gave me, you haven’t given a merit to any new’bie before.

I am now a little skeptical that you are posting just for merit. Please do not deliberately publish some content that merit source likes, do not perform, please be the real man！

They are indeed worthy of so many merits, but please follow your advice first: pay more attention to newcomers

 Data as of 8/20/2021

Also thank DdmrDdmr for recommending his tableau data to me：

If you don’t want to manually create the stats, or wish to surpass the 120 day limit on the profile’s history, you can always use these, which provide similar information.
https://public.tableau.com/shared/TSJC4KK9G?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Finally, please forget about merit and don't post for merit,KingsDen. Giving merit to newcomers can indeed inspire them. But it’s more important for me to thank the old members who patiently answered our questions. This is the biggest concern for the newcomers.

Thanks to those who have answered my questions @DdmrDdmr,@mocacinno,@NeuroticFish,@ETFbitcoin etc. whether you have given me merit or not (to be honest, I really don’t care about this)

[The Sceptical Chymist]

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Well said, all of it.  I would also like to add that Newbies and other lower-ranked members shouldn't think that giving merit to merit sources or Legendary members is going to increase their own chances of receiving merits. 

Personally, I don't want anyone I've helped out with merits to merit me back, because 1) It doesn't look good, and people could see it as some sort of kickback (which I've never engaged in), and 2) I don't need merits to rank up or sMerits to give out (usually; sometimes I run low, but not lately). 

If I see a Newbie/Jr. Member who's giving all of his merits to merit sources, it makes me just a wee bit suspicious that they're trying to curry favour, and that could be the case in some instances, or it could genuinely be that they think they're meriting the best posts.  But either way, IMO merits should be "paid forward" to other lower-ranked members who make good posts.  Merits serve as a 'like' on this forum, but everyone knows that they also serve a more important function, and that is to facilitate the ranking up process.

[Lily Garver]

Finally, please forget about merit and don't post for merit,KingsDen. Giving merit to newcomers can indeed inspire them. But it’s more important for me to thank the old members who patiently answered our questions. This is the biggest concern for the newcomers.

Thanks to those who have answered my questions @DdmrDdmr,@mocacinno,@NeuroticFish,@ETFbitcoin etc. whether you have given me merit or not (to be honest, I really don’t care about this)

PastorNick I think if you have a girlfriend, she will definitely lose to you in some ways, such as quarrels,
Your thoughts are clear, well-founded, and you use very accurate words, which makes it awkward for partners who engage in fake actions.
In the past two days, you are like a brown candy, just sticking to KingsDen's body. I think now KingsDen wants to get rid of you, but your attributes are not so easy to get rid of.

But I agree with you very much, communicate sincerely, send posts with real content, and be a real person.

[PastorNick]

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You summed it up very well The Pharmacist, I originally planned to edit your words into my post, but I realized that it was a bit redundant after I finished editing. I regard my post as topic

Yes, just like you said. Frequent gifting of merit source merit can easily be regarded as a favor and kickback.

But many merit source posts are really good (this is why they became merit sources), so it's not just to please, sometimes your posts are really worthwhile.

[KingsDen]

You even posted this post before:[NEWBIES] Earn your first Merit..But obviously this is a show, except for a merit you gave me, you haven’t given a merit to any new’bie before.

Whenever the thread above is mentioned, I am always happy because it acts as a reference for vindication. I opened the thread because I don't tour much in the forum. I only visit 4 sections of the forum
●Beginners and Help: To learn and Advice
●Bitcoin Discussion: To learn and question
●Meta: To contribute to forum success
●Technical board: To read(learn)only.

Apart from Beginners and Help where I can see things like "I am new here, what to do". The other three boards, newbies don't contribute much there.
I am not in any campaign, so I don't tour the whole forum, the possibility of not stumbling in any newbie merit worthy is high.
Again, I don't save smerits, as I recieve them and see a merit worthy post I give out immediately.
When I discovered this, I decided to open the thread [NEWBIES] Earn your first Merit.. This is to enable me gather merit worthy newbies to merit them, just visit the thread and see how it was severely attacked. I had to lock it, I will reopen it when I am convinced that the gesture is a good one as opposed to what I saw on the thread.

In the past two days, you are like a brown candy, just sticking to KingsDen's body. I think now KingsDen wants to get rid of you, but your attributes are not so easy to get rid of

Lols, I need him around me, he can stick the more. I enjoy his statistics. I appreciate him.
Will it interest you to know that @PastorNick has recieved 13merits so far, and 10 of them which contributes to more than 70% was gotten by mentioning @KingsDen and posting his data. So, it is fair to say that KingsDen has given a newbie a recognition needed to scale through.
As I always say "Every attack is a blessing in disguise".
It will therefore be good that no one should customise me to newbies, yes, I know in this forum I have a mission to groom newbies to the forum standard, where we will have a sane and ethical generation of newbies. I may not have the enablement to accomplish same now, but it is a task that must be done by me. Thanks all!

[Pokapoka124]

Finally, I believe merit sources do not give higher merits to lower ranking members because they believe they may abuse the smerits they will have as a result of the given merits. It's somewhat showing that the merit system works in conjunction with the trust system. If you are trusted, you are trusted with merits too. Knowing too well you may not play the hide and seek game with your alt on merit issuance.

I am of the opinion that lower ranking member(s) who is able to produce a few quality posts, can be trusted and has a decent history of smerit allocation should benefit evenly because they are the future of bitcointalk.
Thank you!

There are merit threads by merit sources all over Beginner and Help board to help newbies rank up. Getting 10 merits to rank up to member is not difficult. The merit system isn't designed to oppress newbies

[Merit] Hey Bitcoiners! Can You Send Encrypted Messages? By OgNasty

[Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message? By OgNasty

[Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank By Ratimov

My birthday merit treat to newbies and others who are about to rank up! By cheezcarls
Ratimov - 2 Years on Bitcointalk + Giveaway !!! By Ratimov
Kingsden, you created one yourself to help newbies
[NEWBIES] Earn your first Merit. By Kingsden

[CryptocurencyKing]

In July 2021 total sent 26411 merits (in 13235 txns to 2037 users):

• 3% to Newbies: 810 merits (to 517 users)
• 4% to Jr. Members: 1068 merits (to 296 users)
• 9% to Members: 2479 merits (to 306 users)
• 8% to Full Members: 2010 merits (to 216 users)
• 11% to Sr. Members: 2808 merits (to 246 users)
• 15% to Hero Members: 4044 merits (to 246 users)
• 50% to Legendaries: 13192 merits (to 423 users)

Although, I'm not one for taking into consideration the rank of the user I'm meriting or at least I try to be conscious about being non bias. I would like to see the distribution a little better than this personally. 50% of the merit circulation going to legendaries makes sense, however I do believe that might be because there's some bias creeping in. I feel like some users are less willing to reward newbies with high amounts, because there's not enough data available to determine whether they would be a contributing user in the long term.

This is probably backed up by the fact that 517 newbies received merit, and only 423 legendaries received merit, however the amount of merits was significantly larger when being sent to legendary accounts. I think it could be argued that generally, legendaries are more likely to be posting better content, but without going through each post, that would likely be hard to accurately predict.

Sometimes the merit distribution system calls for unnecessary agitations over it. For sure there are those who effortlessly earns this and there  are those who don't. That doesn't mean some users are more preferred above others and even though it seems so, a look into there profile and post history is all that it would take to note why.

Again, it's not a very strange thing to have ranked up members earn more merits than beginners. Some of this is due to the fact that, there are some replies that comes off these users experience that in one release, they could earn the highest merit in any instance in the forum but beginners responses are hardly accorded this sort of appreciation due to low quality replies.

Another thing is, the boards for which you do frequent. If you take a look at the technical discussions, a little technical reply, either as question or answer to a question it all that it takes to be merited based on the technicality of your response but, this is a board for experience for which, beginners don't participate so much.

Again, even beginners play the bias game. They come up with the notion that, ranked up members have got more merits and in giving ranked up members some merits, your most likely to have some back in some merit return response. This is really not up to you @beginners but, goodluck with that though.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

But every job has specifications and/or KPI, which is the bases of the job. Everyone's approach should not deviate extensively from the job specifications.

No, there isn't any job description as far as being a merit source--it's just a bunch of members who've been selected by Theymos (based on his judgement) to distribute merits.  There aren't even any rules, though sources have been removed for abusing the merit system.  I don't know what KPI is.

Oh, and since I think I stumbled upon some sort of account farming operation and cases of merit abuse related to that operation, I'm going to be very careful about which Newbie/Jr. Members I merit.  Ratimov gave a lot of those members in that thread a good deal of merits, and while it's commendable that he's very generous, I think it's better to be careful when handing them out to new members. 

Cases like the one I think I discovered (I'm still appealing to the community for help) by necessity involve newer accounts, and I've stumbled across them once or twice.  So if you wonder why I'm reluctant to just throw merits at every Newbie that makes a coherent post, that's part of the reason.

[aysg76]

There are merit threads by merit sources all over Beginner and Help board to help newbies rank up. Getting 10 merits to rank up to member is not difficult. The merit system isn't designed to oppress newbies

The merit system was set up on the forum to discourage the spam posting and encourage members to write up the quality posts on the forum.We have some members registered 4-5 years back and are hero, senior,full or legendary with same merit allocation as it was airdropped to them with the introduction of merit system as they are not able to write up one quality post also till the time.It was also not set up to help newbies who have no knowledge of the crypto market to gain merits with whatever they write and that is why we have seen legendary or high rank members giving merit to each other.There is reason behind it because if you see the merit distribution you will notice that the post quality was not compromised at all and we can't say merit system was abused with this.

When you will visit the merit history of members for sure you will see more merits to senior or high rank members than newbies because it's hard to find quality posts by some newbie members and senior members are making up the quality posts.So the merits are given to them who deserves them.

Here are some members who have gained merits within short span from merit sources and other members because of quality posts made by them on the forum:

RainbowKun
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/JQ8PJ5NQW?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Kaggie
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/T7X7PTYPQ?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

KingsDen
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/BHPWKHG4M?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

So you see if you are serving as an assest to the forum you will receive merit rewards from other members and making forum a best place to gain and share knowledge of bitcoin and crypto market is going to help it.So make best use of your knowledge and you will see results for the same.

[PastorNick]

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Sir, your connection is wrong. These links all point to DdmrDdmr.

Add another
kxwhalexk
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/WQD8J7T3H?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Correct link

RainbowKun
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/JQ8PJ5NQW?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Kaggie
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/T7X7PTYPQ?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

KingsDen
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/BHPWKHG4M?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

[aysg76]

Sir, your connection is wrong. These links all point to DdmrDdmr.

Thanks for pointing out it mate as by mistake i copied the same link for @DdmrDdmr instead of those persons stats.But now i have made the updations in my post for the correct link.

Add another
kxwhalexk
His stats- https://public.tableau.com/shared/WQD8J7T3H?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

I have not made an official list of all the newbies as there are many like them and you have pointed out them in your post which is also good.The main aim was to tell all that members making quality posts are getting merits from all so keep up that pace and be an effective member of the forum.

[philipma1957]

I think it could be argued that generally, legendaries are more likely to be posting better content, but without going through each post, that would likely be hard to accurately predict.

Apart from the fact that legendaries are more likely to be good content posters, let us consider this;
The merit sources who also are more of legendaries have been here for a long time. They have been meeting one another here for many years, apart from the content of the posts, they have falling inlove with the writing patterns of one another, their tones, how humorous, commanding or entertaining they will be. So, meriting such posts becomes a habit, most times without paying attention to the contents.

That is adaptation, a strong human character you cannot undermined. For the newbies or low ranking members to have such a share, they must last longer here and develop a unique writing style lovable by many.

Secondly, the law of reciprocation is indirectly playing out. Merit seems to flow to those who has the ability and enablement to reciprocate. A Merit source can easily give out 50merits to a legendary fellow, knowing too well that it is cyclical, re-genaratable and reciprocal.

Finally, I believe merit sources do not give higher merits to lower ranking members because they believe they may abuse the smerits they will have as a result of the given merits. It's somewhat showing that the merit system works in conjunction with the trust system. If you are trusted, you are trusted with merits too. Knowing too well you may not play the hide and seek game with your alt on merit issuance.

I am of the opinion that lower ranking member(s) who is able to produce a few quality posts, can be trusted and has a decent history of smerit allocation should benefit evenly because they are the future of bitcointalk.
Thank you!

I gave this 3 merits it was good.
I dont give high merits to legends as they most likely dont need them.

I prefer giving guys like you 3-6 merits.

Lower ranked.
Not new.
Well written quality posts.

In fact when I find a good post from someone that ticks the boxes above I often will read all their posts.
End up 🆙 giving 3 or 4 merits a few times.

[icopress]

[...]

Well, I would agree with you if our forum was not intended to discuss bitcoin and related topics. But when you look into the history of messages of such a newbie, then for a moment you forget what kind of forum you are on, since almost all of his messages about merit, statistics and social injustice to newcomers (not to mention the fact that such conversations begin with the first message). Yes, a couple of his thoughts may seem reasonable to you and me, but I suggest not to forget the reason why we are all here. Please note that I am not throwing a "stone in your garden" as I really appreciate your contribution to the mining section and much more, I just added my 2 cents.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well, I would agree with you if our forum was not intended to discuss bitcoin and related topics. But when you look into the history of messages of such a newbie, then for a moment you forget what kind of forum you are on, since almost all of his messages about merit, statistics and social injustice to newcomers

Most of the forum is intended for bitcoin discussion, but there are sections dedicated to other things (like Meta).  There are plenty of newbies posting in Bitcoin Discussion, but their posts are generally written for the sake of whatever campaign or bounty they're in--and that's been discussed to death, so I'll end my statement there.  I do agree that the ambitious newcomers who want to climb the ranks tend to post about merits and other non-bitcoin related stuff a lot, but usually I know the difference between an attempt to get merits and a genuinely good post.

I dont give high merits to legends as they most likely dont need them.

I don't blame you, and I kind of have the same mindset--though lately I've been meriting a lot of Hero/Legendary members, since their posts are the ones that have stuck out from the rest of the dreck I've been reading.  I do try to follow that "ranking up pipeline" thread, because I like helping out members who are close to their next rank--and it's a great way for me to hand out a lot of merits in a short period of time, since I'm basically doing post history reviews.

[Welsh]

Well, I would agree with you if our forum was not intended to discuss bitcoin and related topics. But when you look into the history of messages of such a newbie, then for a moment you forget what kind of forum you are on, since almost all of his messages about merit, statistics and social injustice to newcomers (not to mention the fact that such conversations begin with the first message). Yes, a couple of his thoughts may seem reasonable to you and me, but I suggest not to forget the reason why we are all here. Please note that I am not throwing a "stone in your garden" as I really appreciate your contribution to the mining section and much more, I just added my 2 cents.

Users at this point usually join the forum to earn money, merit is preventing them from earning that money. It's only natural for them to talk about it a lot. Although, when it comes to social injustice to newbies as you put it; I can't say that is isn't warranted to bring that up as an issue. Undoubtedly, certain users can be hostile, and while I can't blame them I usually like to give the benefit of the doubt before passing judgement.

However, talking about merit, and particularly complaining about it is one of the tell tale signs for account farmers. I don't think many normal users would have much of a problem gaining merit over a period of time, only those with time restraints due to trying to rank up several accounts at once.

[aysg76]

Well, I would agree with you if our forum was not intended to discuss bitcoin and related topics. But when you look into the history of messages of such a newbie, then for a moment you forget what kind of forum you are on, since almost all of his messages about merit, statistics and social injustice to newcomers

Most of the forum is intended for bitcoin discussion, but there are sections dedicated to other things (like Meta).  There are plenty of newbies posting in Bitcoin Discussion, but their posts are generally written for the sake of whatever campaign or bounty they're in--and that's been discussed to death, so I'll end my statement there.  I do agree that the ambitious newcomers who want to climb the ranks tend to post about merits and other non-bitcoin related stuff a lot, but usually I know the difference between an attempt to get merits and a genuinely good post.

Most of the newbies joining this forum have been misguided and they tend to seek this forum as some sort of earning not as discussion forum.They know merit is the only way to rank up and get a place into signature campaign as most of the bounty hunters are doing this with as many alt account to join them.But the problem arises for them when they want to rank up and not know how to gain merits.We are daily coming up with lot of threads like
-how to gain merits?
- how can we earn from this forum?
- thank giving threads to high rank members

They all know that most of the signature campaign have merit requirements in past 120 days atleast 5 or more to join it and they all are desperate to join it and that's why we see this sort of threads.But if we talk about the bitcoin discussion section it is also being full of such posts with all the irrelevant discussion by members to complete the signature requirements and you would see the merit history and find not any received and still spamming up whole thread.

See this is 1st page comparison and 100th page comparison of Bitcoin Discussion section and you could notice how the discussion have changed with time:

   

 
I have been avoiding writing up in this section from some time although it was one of my favourite.With time i also gained knowledge and learning a lot still but we need to come up something quite good and make this forum a better or say best place to discuss bitcoin and crypto related stuff aside from earning point of view.

However, talking about merit, and particularly complaining about it is one of the tell tale signs for account farmers. I don't think many normal users would have much of a problem gaining merit over a period of time, only those with time restraints due to trying to rank up several accounts at once.

Gaining 8-10 merits from start is not a tough job for newbies as there are lot of threads created by members to help them and they can easily locate them and if they are able to do the task they will receive the merits.But as you said who are in rush to move a their accounts up in order to earn from all of them might end up losing up all and what's the fun of it i don't know.You are learning and gaining knowledge free of cost and you can also earn from signature campaign which is sufficient enough but still they engage in such things.Hope we see improvement in newbie involvement.