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September 22, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
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Whoever said Atlas was probably one of those jackasses that goes to Intro To Business Ethics class (or soon will) in an ill-fitting tacky suit and a red bowtie was probably spot on.

Eh, I tailor all of my own suits; so at the absolute least, it wouldn't be ill-fitting.

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September 22, 2011, 08:07:10 PM
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Not only are the paragon of business ingenuity, but you are a tailor as well. What's next, cobbling?
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September 22, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
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Eh, I tailor all of my own suits; so at the absolute least, it wouldn't be ill-fitting.

That's pretty cool.  Got any pictures of your handiwork?
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September 22, 2011, 08:21:44 PM
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Eh, I tailor all of my own suits; so at the absolute least, it wouldn't be ill-fitting.

That's pretty cool.  Got any pictures of your handiwork?

It's really not that notable of a skill. I guess I could have a "gallery" thread one day.

There is a vast untapped market here on these very forums for a tailor of considerable quality, specifically one who could make fine fursuits for discriminating fursonas.

You should look into this.
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September 22, 2011, 08:24:39 PM
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Meh, if anybody near Austin would be interested in getting something tailored/altered/etc. for BTC, PM me.

Paging Rassah (Yiffy Jesus) to Atlas's furry tailoring service
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September 22, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
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Atlas if you can prove you're a half decent tailor you might get an order for a furry bikini

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September 22, 2011, 08:52:51 PM
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

But the Free Market demands this service be filled and it's not like you are going to be wearing them yourself or anything, unless you are into that sort of thing.

True Captains of Industry push forward into whatever niche they can fill, no matter where it takes them.
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September 22, 2011, 08:57:29 PM
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.
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September 22, 2011, 08:58:10 PM
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This is just like logansriches all over again.  Undecided
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September 22, 2011, 08:58:41 PM
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.
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September 22, 2011, 09:25:37 PM
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.

Measurements work best if photos of the person to wear it are included for something like that
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.

Measurements work best is photos of the person to wear it are included for something like that

I prefer tactile feedback.
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September 22, 2011, 09:28:40 PM
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Shit, the forums lockout ended already?  

Hey, Atlas, if you're going to respond to taunting from the SA thread, at least respond to something with substance.  How about the time you solicited funds for a free entry robotics competition and claimed to have been in the 50th percentile when you weren't even close?  You abandoned that thread as soon as you were proven to be a liar.
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September 22, 2011, 09:28:54 PM
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.

Measurements work best is photos of the person to wear it are included for something like that

I prefer tactile feedback.


Sorry hawk you can look not touch, although for a few coins you can see everything and tell her what to do ;]

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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.

Measurements work best is photos of the person to wear it are included for something like that

I prefer tactile feedback.


Sorry hawk you can look not touch, although for a few coins you can see everything and tell her what to do ;]

That Russian guy has you beat on that front now.  Grin
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September 22, 2011, 09:34:00 PM
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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.

Measurements work best is photos of the person to wear it are included for something like that

I prefer tactile feedback.


Sorry hawk you can look not touch, although for a few coins you can see everything and tell her what to do ;]

That Russian guy has you beat on that front now.  Grin

Only if you live in the local area Tongue i still get the rest of the globe

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Yeah, I'll meditate a little while on filling furry and fetish related requests...

In other words, probably not.

I thought you were a businessman. Christ, your only customers and you're too high and mighty to service them.

He's not even thinking about the information he'd have to be sent to make a bikini for someone!

Their measurements? I don't get it.

Measurements work best is photos of the person to wear it are included for something like that

I prefer tactile feedback.


Sorry hawk you can look not touch, although for a few coins you can see everything and tell her what to do ;]

That Russian guy has you beat on that front now.  Grin

Only if you live in the local area Tongue i still get the rest of the globe

That's not a problem at all. I can just fly over to London real quick.  Cool

Well, as soon as Lufthansa accepts Bitcoin that is.  Embarrassed
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September 22, 2011, 11:31:57 PM
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I can't believe that I'm posting non-ironically to an Atlas thread, but here goes.

While being able to sew doesn't count as "tailoring", you've nonetheless been given a useful suggestion in this thread.  There really is a niche market which you could fill here.  It's way more realistic and achievable than some of your past proposals and you're dismissing it out of hand.

I think you should at least reconsider the idea of sewing costumes for people and I'm sure that the community would be willing to walk you through the steps involved in setting up a viable, part-time home business.  This is one particular field in which no-one is going to care about your age or your prior business experience provided that you can deliver the product to your customers as ordered and on time.

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I can't believe that I'm posting non-ironically to an Atlas thread, but here goes.

While being able to sew doesn't count as "tailoring", you've nonetheless been given a useful suggestion in this thread.  There really is a niche market which you could fill here.  It's way more realistic and achievable than some of your past proposals and you're dismissing it out of hand.

I think you should at least reconsider the idea of sewing costumes for people and I'm sure that the community would be willing to walk you through the steps involved in setting up a viable, part-time home business.  This is one particular field in which no-one is going to care about your age or your prior business experience provided that you can deliver the product to your customers as ordered and on time.

Sorry, that idea sailed years ago. The crappy $300 costumes have long since been replaced by professionally manufactured $3,200 costumes. The level of artistic skill has skyrocketed, and amateurs have long since been left far far behind.
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I can't believe that I'm posting non-ironically to an Atlas thread, but here goes.

While being able to sew doesn't count as "tailoring", you've nonetheless been given a useful suggestion in this thread.  There really is a niche market which you could fill here.  It's way more realistic and achievable than some of your past proposals and you're dismissing it out of hand.

I think you should at least reconsider the idea of sewing costumes for people and I'm sure that the community would be willing to walk you through the steps involved in setting up a viable, part-time home business.  This is one particular field in which no-one is going to care about your age or your prior business experience provided that you can deliver the product to your customers as ordered and on time.

Sorry, that idea sailed years ago. The crappy $300 costumes have long since been replaced by professionally manufactured $3,200 costumes. The level of artistic skill has skyrocketed, and amateurs have long since been left far far behind.

Does the higher-quality costumes cause less or more fursecution?
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I can't believe that I'm posting non-ironically to an Atlas thread, but here goes.

While being able to sew doesn't count as "tailoring", you've nonetheless been given a useful suggestion in this thread.  There really is a niche market which you could fill here.  It's way more realistic and achievable than some of your past proposals and you're dismissing it out of hand.

I think you should at least reconsider the idea of sewing costumes for people and I'm sure that the community would be willing to walk you through the steps involved in setting up a viable, part-time home business.  This is one particular field in which no-one is going to care about your age or your prior business experience provided that you can deliver the product to your customers as ordered and on time.

Sorry, that idea sailed years ago. The crappy $300 costumes have long since been replaced by professionally manufactured $3,200 costumes. The level of artistic skill has skyrocketed, and amateurs have long since been left far far behind.

Does the higher-quality costumes cause less or more fursecution?

I wouldn't know, as I stay away from them. Less maybe, because they don't creep me out AS much?
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I can't believe that I'm posting non-ironically to an Atlas thread, but here goes.

While being able to sew doesn't count as "tailoring", you've nonetheless been given a useful suggestion in this thread.  There really is a niche market which you could fill here.  It's way more realistic and achievable than some of your past proposals and you're dismissing it out of hand.

I think you should at least reconsider the idea of sewing costumes for people and I'm sure that the community would be willing to walk you through the steps involved in setting up a viable, part-time home business.  This is one particular field in which no-one is going to care about your age or your prior business experience provided that you can deliver the product to your customers as ordered and on time.

Sorry, that idea sailed years ago. The crappy $300 costumes have long since been replaced by professionally manufactured $3,200 costumes. The level of artistic skill has skyrocketed, and amateurs have long since been left far far behind.

I wasn't thinking specifically of the furry market.  I was thinking more along the lines of people who want costumes for a single event or which they're only going to wear a couple of times.  I used to sew most of my children's clothes when they were younger and all of their costumes and there were times when I'd have been happy to pay someone else to make the costumes to save myself the time.  There's a market out there for costumes which don't need to be the same quality as those used for ballroom dancing and/or live theatre.  Atlas could tap that market if he's not overstating his ability   - chain store costumes are pretty unoriginal, low quality, and quite expensive for what they are.

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I was thinking more along the lines of people who want costumes for a single event or which they're only going to wear a couple of times.  I used to sew most of my children's clothes when they were younger and all of their costumes and there were times when I'd have been happy to pay someone else to make the costumes to save myself the time.  There's a market out there for costumes which don't need to be the same quality as those used for ballroom dancing and/or live theatre.  Atlas could tap that market if he's not overstating his ability   - chain store costumes are pretty unoriginal, low quality, and quite expensive for what they are.

Actually, with Halloween coming up, hat would be an excellent idea!
Though my guess is that Atlas will be too busy working on Bitcoin related businesses instead.
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I was thinking more along the lines of people who want costumes for a single event or which they're only going to wear a couple of times.  I used to sew most of my children's clothes when they were younger and all of their costumes and there were times when I'd have been happy to pay someone else to make the costumes to save myself the time.  There's a market out there for costumes which don't need to be the same quality as those used for ballroom dancing and/or live theatre.  Atlas could tap that market if he's not overstating his ability   - chain store costumes are pretty unoriginal, low quality, and quite expensive for what they are.

Actually, with Halloween coming up, hat would be an excellent idea!
Though my guess is that Atlas will be too busy working on Bitcoin related businesses instead.

If by 'businesses' you mean Team Fortress 2, or Deus Ex (seriously guys get Deus Ex), then yes
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September 23, 2011, 12:48:57 AM
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Shit, the forums lockout ended already?  

Hey, Atlas, if you're going to respond to taunting from the SA thread, at least respond to something with substance.  How about the time you solicited funds for a free entry robotics competition and claimed to have been in the 50th percentile when you weren't even close?  You abandoned that thread as soon as you were proven to be a liar.


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September 23, 2011, 01:30:53 AM
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I was in the hospital during that robotics thread. I really don't feel like bothering with it. I know for a goddamn fact that we placed very well in competition. When it came to the notebook and other things, hell no and with no remorse. Our team wasn't large enough those two years for that.

You know the website has easily accessible records of the previous years, right?  And you didn't claim you placed well.  You claimed that you always placed in a certain percentile, which you didn't, while soliciting money from forum members.

Regarding the hospital visit, I'm sorry to hear about that.  I hear removing your head from your ass is a costly and dangerous procedure.  You might want to go in for a followup, though.
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I was in the hospital during that robotics thread. I really don't feel like bothering with it. I know for a goddamn fact that we placed very well in competition. When it came to the notebook and other things, hell no and with no remorse. Our team wasn't large enough those two years for that.

People actually looked up where your school had placed.  You mightn't feel like "bothering with it", but it's this kind of attitude which makes it hard to take your business ideas seriously.

Don't overstate your achievements and abilities.  Don't give yourself pretentious titles like founder or CEO.  When you make a mistake admit it, and people might start taking you and your proposed ventures seriously - but right now you're coming across as a junior version of Bruce Wagner.

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More importantly, whose money. And whether they know.

Mine and all potential investors are about to be informed with a full business plan.

How much information did you give your grandmother before she "invested" that $50?
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Shit, the forums lockout ended already?  

Hey, Atlas, if you're going to respond to taunting from the SA thread, at least respond to something with substance.  How about the time you solicited funds for a free entry robotics competition and claimed to have been in the 50th percentile when you weren't even close?  You abandoned that thread as soon as you were proven to be a liar.

I love how your entire persona is based around trolling a single person. You know you're only inflating his ego right?
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I haven't made a goddamn mistake. I swear on my life that we placed well in actual competition. Otherwise, we scored poorly. I admit that with a smile. : ) See that? That's a fucking unremorseful smile.

I'll label myself however I damn please. Did I ask for your advice? No, I didn't.

Now get out of my face. Woolong Financial is a serious venture and you all better take it goddamn seriously. I've invested real money into this thing and I'll announce it when it's ready for showtime.

Now, you have an excellent evening. : ) Thanks for your challenge but you are unfortunately wrong.
Your Thread:
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Our school (Gateway College Prep) has participated in the Capitol BEST robotics competition for 3 years with me as the founding student and team captain. We've always been in top 50th percentile while beating our rival school but this time we want to aim directly for the top and the national competition.
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Spirit/Sportsmanship - 15th
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Head-to-Head - 19th
Website - did not participate
You didn't claim that you placed well.  You made specific claims about where you placed.  Now, assuming you're referring to 'head-to-head' when you say 'the actual competition', you placed 19 out of 25, which is the 24th percentile.

Now, I don't really care that much.  It's just really pathetic how you're tap dancing around the truth instead of just owning up to it when the facts are there for everyone to see.  The other dude was right, you're like Bruce Jr.  At least Bruce DID something, though.



I love how your entire persona is based around trolling a single person. You know you're only inflating his ego right?
My trolling has long since branched out beyond simply focusing on Atlas.  This was just the only account that wasn't banned back when I decided to start posting again.  For this account they just deleted my posts which sent me back to the newbie area, so I just had to make a few more posts to get out.  I also owned the TomWilliams 'Sorry Guys, I got hacked and all the bitcoins are gone' account along with a few others.
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I heard 14th the last time I checked. If that's what the website says by all means, that's the truth. I accept it with a smile. : ) However, it has no provisioning over my and the value of our school's team. We produced a great robot and had a grand time. I stand by the request and retain full esteem.

Thank you guys for holding us accountable. Good show.
14th still isn't the 50th percentile...

Good luck running a financial empire with those math skills.
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Woolong Financial is a serious venture and you all better take it goddamn seriously. I've invested real money into this thing and I'll announce it when it's ready for showtime.


Unfortunately, you have already announced it, and coupled with your previous string of poorly thought out business plans, no one will take it seriously, not even for a minute. Changing your screen name doesn't wipe out the embarrassing picture of yourself that you have painted for months and months now.
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

No, you see, this is what leads people to make the same mistakes over and over again.
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I heard 14th the last time I checked. If that's what the website says by all means, that's the truth. I accept it with a smile. : ) However, it has no provisioning over my and the value of our school's team. We produced a great robot and had a grand time. I stand by the request and retain full esteem.

Thank you guys for holding us accountable. Good show.
14th still isn't the 50th percentile...

Good luck running a financial empire with those math skills.

Dude! Why the f are you wasting your financial, math, and research skills on this place?
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

So, whatever you did when you got suicidal helped then?
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September 23, 2011, 03:04:05 AM
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

No, you see, this is what leads people to make the same mistakes over and over again.
That would be insanity. I have never been known to do the same shit twice. You would like to continue to see me fall though. You get so much pleasure from watching others suffer because you can't even derive pleasure from your own person. You rather destroy and embrace destruction. So, go ahead, live up my future failures if there are any but I won't be the only one losing in the end.

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September 23, 2011, 03:05:10 AM
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Dude! Why the f are you wasting your financial, math, and research skills on this place?
Eh, I've got 2 more hours or so worth of Calculus homework to do and I'm procrastinating.  Plus, I genuinely enjoy being a dick.
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

No, you see, this is what leads people to make the same mistakes over and over again.
That would be insanity. I have never been known to do the same shit twice. You would like to continue to see me fall though. You get so much pleasure from watching others suffer because you can't even derive pleasure from your own person. You rather destroy and embrace destruction. So, go ahead, live up my future failures if there are any but I won't be the only one losing in the end.


No, I'd like to see you succeed, I just know the paths you keep taking are for the wrong reasons, and they cause you to fail, and that causes you to be depress. I've tried to break you out of your cycle. I know you want and need attention and support, this is how I've been giving it.
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September 23, 2011, 03:07:11 AM
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Nobody helped me. I had to pull myself up by my bootstraps. Anyways, even when I'm suffering, I'm partially happy to have suffered. It's good experience.

It's always inspiring when a white middle-class suburbanite pulls himself up from his bootstraps.  

Congratulations on beating the odds!
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

So, whatever you did when you got suicidal helped then?

Nobody helped me. I had to pull myself up by my bootstraps. Anyways, even when I'm suffering, I'm partially happy to have suffered. It's good experience.

Stop calling your "suffering" and "failures" successes though, treat them as learning experiences instead. Identify and take note of your mistakes, and correct the behavior, or be doomed to make the same mistake again.
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September 23, 2011, 03:13:31 AM
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Stop starting up business ventures where you take investors unless you
A) Have a failure plan. Make sure you can, at any time, be able to have a way to reimburse your investors
B) Have no investors that are family and friends. Don't be that bridge burning person who is willing to hurt the relationships with people around them in an endless chase after capital. It's not worth it.


Seriously, your behavior, your refusal to get checked for your mood swings, and your constant ability to screw yourself over only to repeat the same mistake over again is fucking depressing me. Apparently insulting your bad ideas until you forfeit them is a lost cause, and I know you won't listen to honest advice, so I guess do whatever you want.
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

So, whatever you did when you got suicidal helped then?

Nobody helped me. I had to pull myself up by my bootstraps. Anyways, even when I'm suffering, I'm partially happy to have suffered. It's good experience.

Stop calling your "suffering" and "failures" successes though, treat them as learning experiences instead. Identify and take note of your mistakes, and correct the behavior, or be doomed to make the same mistake again.

Isn't a learning experience a success? Why aren't I allowed to be happy in the face of adversity? I certainly correct my mistakes in the name of building a greater end. It's not like I have to suffer to do that.

If you learn from them, of course it is. If you just embrace the experiences, you aren't helping yourself
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.

So, whatever you did when you got suicidal helped then?

Nobody helped me. I had to pull myself up by my bootstraps. Anyways, even when I'm suffering, I'm partially happy to have suffered. It's good experience.

Weren't you homeschooled? Doesn't that imply that you have a guardian who is home enough to teach you, implying wealth enough to not work?

Bootstraps...haha. Were they $300 Timberlands? I am not trying to pick on you here, but jesus christ...
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September 23, 2011, 03:18:48 AM
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Dude! Why the f are you wasting your financial, math, and research skills on this place?
Eh, I've got 2 more hours or so worth of Calculus homework to do and I'm procrastinating.  Plus, I genuinely enjoy being a dick.

HOLY SHIT the honesty is blinding!!! Who are you? Get FAtlas back on!
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September 23, 2011, 03:22:20 AM
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Stop starting up business ventures where you take investors unless you
A) Have a failure plan. Make sure you can, at any time, be able to have a way to reimburse your investors
B) Have no investors that are family and friends. Don't be that bridge burning person who is willing to hurt the relationships with people around them in an endless chase after capital. It's not worth it.


Seriously, your behavior, your refusal to get checked for your mood swings, and your constant ability to screw yourself over only to repeat the same mistake over again is fucking depressing me. Apparently insulting your bad ideas until you forfeit them is a lost cause, and I know you won't listen to honest advice, so I guess do whatever you want.

I will take A and B to heart. Sound advice.

Otherwise, I've gotten checked. They do nothing for me but apply one-size-fits-all psychiatric charts. I've consulted my own therapy: meditation. It's working damn well.

Anyways, don't be depressed. I shouldn't be that relevant to your happiness although I can appreciate any value I may give you.

Thanks. : )

You read as someone with very...manic...moods - either highly depressed, or as captain-of-industry, founding-a-new-business-Immanuel. Don't you recognize this?

I know people are vastly different and there isn't one, set solution for fixing whatever may or may not be wrong with you, but did you try any of the suggestions you were given when you got checked - either behavior modification or medication? They could both improve and level your disposition and give you more "control" over yourself than you think.

You always struck me as the type who either thought medication was a means of controlling you, or that you knew better. I know meditation can help, but it's no silver bullet, and the first time things get frantic and you don't have time for that what will  you do?
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September 23, 2011, 03:28:33 AM
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I can bring in my previous psychologists to verify that.

Please don't! The'll lose their jobs from wasting so much time on this forum psycho-analyzing the freaks!
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I just drink a lot of whiskey.  I wouldn't recommend it for everyone, but it works alright for me.
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Stop starting up business ventures where you take investors unless you
A) Have a failure plan. Make sure you can, at any time, be able to have a way to reimburse your investors
B) Have no investors that are family and friends. Don't be that bridge burning person who is willing to hurt the relationships with people around them in an endless chase after capital. It's not worth it.


Seriously, your behavior, your refusal to get checked for your mood swings, and your constant ability to screw yourself over only to repeat the same mistake over again is fucking depressing me. Apparently insulting your bad ideas until you forfeit them is a lost cause, and I know you won't listen to honest advice, so I guess do whatever you want.

I will take A and B to heart. Sound advice.

Otherwise, I've gotten checked. They do nothing for me but apply one-size-fits-all psychiatric charts. I've consulted my own therapy: meditation. It's working damn well.

Anyways, don't be depressed. I shouldn't be that relevant to your happiness although I can appreciate any value I may give you.

Thanks. : )

You read as someone with very...manic...moods - either highly depressed, or as captain-of-industry, founding-a-new-business-Immanuel. Don't you recognize this?

I know people are vastly different and there isn't one, set solution for fixing whatever may or may not be wrong with you, but did you try any of the suggestions you were given when you got checked - either behavior modification or medication? They could both improve and level your disposition and give you more "control" over yourself than you think.

You always struck me as the type who either thought medication was a means of controlling you, or that you knew better. I know meditation can help, but it's no silver bullet, and the first time things get frantic and you don't have time for that what will  you do?

I am on anti-anxiety medication; symbalta I believe. It cuts the edge off but what was causing the down swings was just me beating up myself over my failures. I cut that shit out. That's all I have done through my focused meditation. I'm just focused and energized. I'm not Bipolar. I can bring in my previous psychologists to verify that.


If you are having big down-swings over your failures, you are either Bipolar or not learning from them/not really that making mistakes is something everyone does, something everyone has to do to learn. Also symbalta, I believe, is primarily used to treat major depression - I hope you are taking it/hope that it is working for you if it is.

You seem to have a positive outlook right now, but in the months I've been on these forums I've seen you be this way several times before.

Sorry if I don't respond for awhile right now, some dumb pledge just broke two shotglasses on my door and I have to keep him from drinking himself to death or something. Damn kids.
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Okay, Nietzsche Jr. we get it.  You're deep and dark and no one understands you.  Please tell us more about your bootstraps.

When will there be an IPO for Retarded Anime Financial?  I have a feeling Comedy Gold futures are going UP UP UP!

I just drink a lot of whiskey.  I wouldn't recommend it for everyone, but it works alright for me.

Are you also a war vet with actual problems?  +1 bro.
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I can bring in my previous psychologists to verify that.

Please don't! The'll lose their jobs from wasting so much time on this forum psycho-analyzing the freaks!
Heh, I bet you're familiar with Nathaniel Branden, Dr. Branden. I only had to spend 15 minutes with the guy to know what he had to tell me: Pull yourself fucking out of it.

Jesus Christ stop doing this to yourself, this objectivism bullshit completely ignores the fact that humans arent perfect robots and have hormones and neurotransmitters that sometimes need proper counseling and medication to control. You are going to end up killing yourself if you keep buying into this obvious bullshit and acting against your own interests
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I can bring in my previous psychologists to verify that.

Please don't! The'll lose their jobs from wasting so much time on this forum psycho-analyzing the freaks!
Heh, I bet you're familiar with Nathaniel Branden, Dr. Branden. I only had to spend 15 minutes with the guy to know what he had to tell me: Pull yourself fucking out of it.

Jesus Christ stop doing this to yourself, this objectivism bullshit completely ignores the fact that humans arent perfect robots and have hormones and neurotransmitters that sometimes need proper counseling and medication to control. You are going to end up killing yourself if you keep buying into this obvious bullshit and acting against your own interests
So you want me to lend the responsibility of my emotions and ability to act to somebody else?

The ability to act will always be yours - no medication is strong enough to take it from you.

The responsibility of your emotions can never be fully on you - they are influenced by your genes, by your environment, and so forth.
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I'm curious whether you chose Dr Branden because you believe he's the most qualified to treat you or because he was once Ayn Rand's lover.

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Wow. Someone didn't learn to take constructive criticism from people and move on. Son I am disappoint.

lol Matthew, this is just friendly conversation.
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Tell us about Woolong Financial. Don't sell it to us as an idea now, give us an idea of what is is supposed to be, how you planned for it, what kind of investors you took in (family, friends, forum members, Ycombinator, etc.), and what failure plans, and I mean total failure of your product, have-to-deal-with-angry-investors and analyze-what-you-did-wrong plan you have in place, I'm genuinely curious.
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Wow. Someone didn't learn to take constructive criticism from people and move on. Son I am disappoint.

lol Matthew, this is just friendly conversation.

I don't think it is. I think it's a bunch of guys who are emotionally stable picking on your for not being consistant, and in the midst of it all, you're doing the same shit I did by defending yourself instead of just listening and accepting it. Nobody here cares about you or me or anyone-- until of course we start walking around like we want to be Bruce.

You don't have to agree with their political stance or lifestyles, but no real man can look himself in the mirror and know he's a man if he can't accept his mistakes and ask for help.

JeffK and Fatlass are assholes, but they're the kind of assholes who pick on little kids who can't do math-- they're doing it so that the little kids will actually learn math. Thick skin is pointless if your head is equally thick and real friends help each other so here's my help.

Stop talking about things until they're done, stop pretending your way is the only right way, and if you must be a public figure of some sort, don't share every little whim of an opinion without testing it thoroughly on some sort of pointless...forum...ohhhh...I see what you did there.  Cool

Oh hey, you've finally caught on
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Various teams dropped out. I may have counted them in my original calculation.

Counting people who don't show up is a clever angle.  I got a B in Differential Equations, but I'm in the 99th percentile if you count all the people who didn't even take the class!
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EDIT: Less emo and more furry bashing please.

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I'm feeling left out out there!
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Wow. Someone didn't learn to take constructive criticism from people and move on. Son I am disappoint.

lol Matthew, this is just friendly conversation.

I don't think it is. I think it's a bunch of guys who are emotionally stable picking on your for not being consistant, and in the midst of it all, you're doing the same shit I did by defending yourself instead of just listening and accepting it. Nobody here cares about you or me or anyone-- until of course we start walking around like we want to be Bruce.

You don't have to agree with their political stance or lifestyles, but no real man can look himself in the mirror and know he's a man if he can't accept his mistakes and ask for help.

JeffK and Fatlass are assholes, but they're the kind of assholes who pick on little kids who can't do math-- they're doing it so that the little kids will actually learn math. Thick skin is pointless if your head is equally thick and real friends help each other so here's my help.

Stop talking about things until they're done, stop pretending your way is the only right way, and if you must be a public figure of some sort, don't share every little whim of an opinion without testing it thoroughly on some sort of pointless...forum...ohhhh...I see what you did there.  Cool
My arms and legs are sore from working out yesterday and I have a headache. I have time to waste.

Don't stop this by the way, good consistent mood booster and helps with confidence, especially if you are careful with diet for bulking/cutting/whatever

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Nope. Not yet. When I have it fleshed out and ready then I will reveal it. It's just not in its best interest otherwise. Thanks for your interest though.

I'm not so much interested in the project itself as I am in the framework (investors, escape plan, etc) you are building it on, since we all know your previous plans didn't have much past "make a forums post for investors" behind it.


Also, I don't fully understand your obsession with being the founder of a business. I mean, I won't bash it because I know I can geek out about Linux or swimming or beer, but at your age shouldn't you be drinking and wasting time with friends and hooking up with girls and generally figuring out how socializing with people works?
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Also, they can be angry as they please at me not being consistent emotionally; it's not my problem. It's a shame my personal character affects them so much. I haven't had this much attention since I made the mistake of dating crazy.

We're not angry so much as frusterated and maybe a bit sad, I certainly had my phases of failure-obsession and introversion in high school, but I was lucky enough to get over it eventually and it wasn't as bad as yours seems to be.
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I just read this entire thread.
Sometimes, these forums are pretty creepy... One out of every three bitcoiners has issues.
Just yesterday I was wondering what the hell happened to PinkiePie...

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I haven't had this much attention since I made the mistake of dating crazy.

Woah-woah-woah. That sounds interesting! Care to share? Or would that make your headache worse?
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I'm curious whether you chose Dr Branden because you believe he's the most qualified to treat you or because he was once Ayn Rand's lover.
He realized the flaws in her philosophy and I had come to similar insights... I thought I would give him a call in the name of those similarities.

Fair enough.  While I don't think that common philosophical ground automatically makes someone the best qualified person to advise or treat you, I totally understand that it can make them seem more approachable and make you feel like they're more likely to understand you - which in turn can make you more likely to seek help when you need it rather than trying to tough it out.

I have absolutely awesome mental health professionals now, but I've had some shocking ones in the past and I know that a few bad experiences in that regard can strongly influence your attitude towards the profession as a whole and the likelihood of you taking their advice.

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Wow. Someone didn't learn to take constructive criticism from people and move on. Son I am disappoint.

lol Matthew, this is just friendly conversation.

I don't think it is. I think it's a bunch of guys who are emotionally stable picking on your for not being consistant, and in the midst of it all, you're doing the same shit I did by defending yourself instead of just listening and accepting it. Nobody here cares about you or me or anyone-- until of course we start walking around like we want to be Bruce.

You don't have to agree with their political stance or lifestyles, but no real man can look himself in the mirror and know he's a man if he can't accept his mistakes and ask for help.

JeffK and Fatlass are assholes, but they're the kind of assholes who pick on little kids who can't do math-- they're doing it so that the little kids will actually learn math. Thick skin is pointless if your head is equally thick and real friends help each other so here's my help.

Stop talking about things until they're done, stop pretending your way is the only right way, and if you must be a public figure of some sort, don't share every little whim of an opinion without testing it thoroughly on some sort of pointless...forum...ohhhh...I see what you did there.  Cool
My arms and legs are sore from working out yesterday and I have a headache. I have time to waste.

Don't stop this by the way, good consistent mood booster and helps with confidence, especially if you are careful with diet for bulking/cutting/whatever

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Nope. Not yet. When I have it fleshed out and ready then I will reveal it. It's just not in its best interest otherwise. Thanks for your interest though.

I'm not so much interested in the project itself as I am in the framework (investors, escape plan, etc) you are building it on, since we all know your previous plans didn't have much past "make a forums post for investors" behind it.


Also, I don't fully understand your obsession with being the founder of a business. I mean, I won't bash it because I know I can geek out about Linux or swimming or beer, but at your age shouldn't you be drinking and wasting time with friends and hooking up with girls and generally figuring out how socializing with people works?

There's not many people that get along with me at my age. When I find the occasional mature friend or girlfriend, yeah, I'll chill. I'm not obsessed with being a founder of a business but creating value, bringing people value directly. I don't feel that I am making the most that I can cleaning toilets at Taco Bell.

Again, all I really want to do is create value for people and I plan to do that greatly through this venture. I will say I have consulted with various specialists to get this thing off the ground. I may not be the only one with passion invested into this. I have a financial consultant who is showing great interest. I am being very cautious with this to say the least.

The displaying of the name is only to build mystery and a nice press release.

You should look at what you like and realize what you have in common with your peers - you probably have a lot more in common with the ones you think are less "mature" than you think. You remind me of myself at your age; it took me years upon years of putting myself into situations with people very different from me to do a bit of growing up. If/when you get to college, I highly suggest you look into joining a fraternity when you get there - it's a huge opportunity for someone like you to do some unintentional learning and growing up.

I also don't get how someone who likes the idea of creating value for others is so stuck on the ideals of objectivism, which are generally very self-serving in nature. You seem like you'd be a better fit for some open-source sommunity than starting a business venture, unless the only people you are truly concerned in creating value for are your con-investors and co-workers.
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September 23, 2011, 04:24:42 AM
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I haven't had this much attention since I made the mistake of dating crazy.

Woah-woah-woah. That sounds interesting! Care to share? Or would that make your headache worse?
It's not really interesting. It actually has a happy ending. We become good friends and now she is happy, etc. Insecurity doesn't build good relationships to say the least. You have to love yourself to truly love or at least to not be an annoying bitch that asks for affection all the time.

Heh, sounds like my first one Cheesy For some reason I make it a point to stay friends with those I've dated long term. I spent so much time getting to know them and having them get to know me, why waste all that work or you can still manage to keep a good friend?
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Unremorsefully, I get a very selfish pleasure from building up other people. That's the cornerstone of objectivism that people don't seem to get.

If you'd rather be scorned as a stepping stone for another than revered as a contributor by many that's your decision.
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Perhaps Atlas still needs some work on expanding his vocabulary, and some confusion  is occuring from imprecise use of words?
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I am enjoying this Chopin solo too much.

Woah, hey, awesome. I love his stuff. Used to play a lot of it back when I was 9 (wishing I had time to re-learn how to play). Most people here have no idea who he is though Sad
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September 23, 2011, 05:29:53 AM
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In fact, if I commit suicide (which I won't) you can have the whole shebang.

How the fuck am I supposed to get Bitcoins from a dead man?

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What does "caress up" in goon parlance mean?
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What does "caress up" in goon parlance mean?

It means you aren't registered and are browsing with the word filter on.

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September 23, 2011, 05:32:41 AM
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Atlas, why is a university not on your list of potential plans?
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Lolie, I have felt despair today and I will feel it in the future but I know how to take it with a smile. In the end, these severe emotions are only primal fear.

You know how to take it with a smile at this moment because you're manic and have no other choice. Like a guy on heroin who thinks he'll be shrouded in bliss for eternity.

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"I felt compelled to exercise until I couldn't go anymore and also I'm awake posting about this stuff at 2AM on a school night" are signs in favor of a manic state, not proof against it.

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September 23, 2011, 06:03:46 AM
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Given the number of threads I've read from young Americans who are in significant debt from going to university to get essentially useless degrees, I think it's wise for young people contemplating tertiary education to think about what they want from further education and to realise that an undergraduate degree isn't an automatic passport to the middle class.  

Unless you're willing to owe large amounts of money for "the college experience", sometimes it makes a lot more sense to pursue something which is more directly vocational straight out of school.  

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I took a cold shower this morning. I did push ups until my muscles involuntarily tensed to where they could no longer contract. I felt tremendous pain and effort. I mourned over previous losses this morning. All the usual depression I felt was very there but I took it with a smile. I am fine but I am going to take the high ground on this one. I have nothing to prove.

I don't think people are trying to prove you wrong.  I think that they're genuinely concerned.  While insomnia is a known side effect of Cymbalta, it can also be one of the major forerunners of a depressive episode.  It's not a big deal if you have the occasional night where you can't sleep and your thoughts and emotions are all over the place, but you need to be cautious if it starts occurring with any regularity.  One of the best ways to prevent major mental health episodes is learning to recognise when you're trending in a particular direction and take action while it's still manageable.  Good sleep hygiene is really important to good mental health, so try not to be dismissive of people's concern.

Meditation and moderate exercise are also great for emotional well-being but moderate is the keyword here.  Pushing yourself to the physical limit occasionally if you're having a shitty day and just want to physically exhaust yourself is one thing is fine - making a habit of it, not so much.

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September 23, 2011, 06:05:58 AM
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Given the number of threads I've read from young Americans who are in significant debt from going to university to get essentially useless degrees, I think it's wise for young people contemplating tertiary education to think about what they want from further education and to realise that an undergraduate degree isn't an automatic passport to the middle class.  

Unless you're willing to owe large amounts of money for "the college experience", sometimes it makes a lot more sense to pursue something which is more directly vocational straight out of school.  

Unfortunately, a bachelor's degree today is becoming what a high school diploma was 20-30 years ago: It's basically the requirement to enter any non-shit job or skilled labor position
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Given the number of threads I've read from young Americans who are in significant debt from going to university to get essentially useless degrees, I think it's wise for young people contemplating tertiary education to think about what they want from further education and to realise that an undergraduate degree isn't an automatic passport to the middle class.  

Unless you're willing to owe large amounts of money for "the college experience", sometimes it makes a lot more sense to pursue something which is more directly vocational straight out of school.  

Unfortunately, a bachelor's degree today is becoming what a high school diploma was 20-30 years ago: It's basically the requirement to enter any non-shit job or skilled labor position

I understand that's the case but I don't totally understand why the US seems to require people to do undergraduate degrees before they can even undertake the studies which will qualify them for their actual profession when in so many other countries you can enter those programmes straight out of high school.  I know that our degrees are structured somewhat differently, but I can't help wondering if US universities have a financial stake in keeping things that way.

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September 23, 2011, 07:05:53 AM
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The boss's fiance shot herself in his million dollar house, dropping the value, and caused my boss to freak out on me for random shit like having a crease in my shirt.

What the fuck, was just skimming and saw this part, but what causes you to think your boss was freaking out because the value of his house dropped and not because his fucking fiance shot herself.?
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I know you very well from the way you present yourself. You are me, about 22 years ago. The difference is that I was religious. Southern Baptist. I was so religious and sure of my conviction in Christ that I would witness to anyone who would stand still long enough to listen. I was CONVINCED that I was right, to the point that I preached to my mother about how she wasn't following God's word closely enough.

You are just as sure of yourself now as I was then, and just as wrong. I know there is nothing I can tell you that will change your mind, but if you will just learn to listen to what others have to say and not automatically reject it, you will learn wisdom.


There's another difference between me and the old you:  I am sure I am ignorant and proud to be. I always listen to what people have to say and I have listened to you very well. You are the very thing you are fighting against.
Another difference between you and him is that he believes that Tough Love actually helps in child-raising.

I mean teenage objectivism is probably just as bad as being an ignorant backwoods authoritarian (six of one, half-a-dozen of the other, in a way), but anybody who can say this:

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No, [he doesn't need meds and love], he needs a good kick in the ass. His parents suck. Not everyone is mentally ill. Some are just big babies.

Still clearly has a far ways to go before enlightenment. Shades of the stereotypical fat, xenophobic redneck saying, without even a hint of irony, "yeah well my parents done kicked mah ass around with a hickory switch and I sure turned out fine, didn't I".  Undecided

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Universites are controlled by a federally granted monopoly and funding. It's horrifically overpriced. I am not willing to take out a loan on that shit. If I do go to college, it will be community college.

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Community college is a good idea to save money, especially when the classes yo take are transferable. That's what I did; took a bunch of community college classes, and then only had a few years of university to finish up.

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I used to think the same way you did. The one thing that proved me wrong is that being able to learn is only part of it. Knowing WHAT to learn is the other part, and you can only get that from professors and classes. How can you Google or look something up when you have never even heard the term or concept?
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Immanual Go is like the CEO banker of Goldman Saks, Lord Blankfein
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It's a goddamn shame you waste all your potential on your dumb conspiracy theories, poor grasp of economics, and related ventures that are far out of your grasp. If you set realistic goals and gave up this "always sure of yourself, even when you're wrong" thing and had a little humility and learned from your past mistakes, you could probably actually accomplish something with your life.
I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.
This made me unironically LOL in real life. Seriously dude, you write like what you are: a 17yo with no life experience, no real education, and all the verbose pomposity in the world.
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Seriously dude, you write like what you are: a 17yo with no life experience, no real education, and all the verbose pomposity in the world.

I got the sense that he writes like what a 17 year old *thinks* a more mature adult would write, and it just comes off as being a mixture of feeling forced (pretended) and pompus at the same time. Like he has somewhat recently adopted a philosophy or a persona that he became a fan of, and he is forcing himself into it without the needed experience to be able to fit into it comfortably. Thus the awkward statements explaining himself, where the words he uses feel just a tad off in their meanings.
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...where the words he uses feel just a tad off in their meanings.

For future posterity, I would appreciate some examples. Frankly, I don't see any notable flaws in my writing although I would graciously accept any valid insight.
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...where the words he uses feel just a tad off in their meanings.

For future posterity, I would appreciate some examples.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3278;sa=showPosts;start=0

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"For me, it is a cause of some upset that more Anglophones don’t enjoy language. Music is enjoyable it seems, so are dance and other, athletic forms of movement. People seem to be able to find sensual and sensuous pleasure in almost anything but words these days. Words, it seems belong to other people, anyone who expresses themselves with originality, delight and verbal freshness is more likely to be mocked, distrusted or disliked than welcomed. The free and happy use of words appears to be considered elitist or pretentious."

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...where the words he uses feel just a tad off in their meanings.

For future posterity, I would appreciate some examples. Frankly, I don't see any notable flaws in my writing although I would graciously accept any valid insight.

Of course!  Cheesy

The things that first really threw me were this:
I am sure I am ignorant and proud to be. (perhaps better worded would have been, "I know I am ignorant, and am proud that I am aware of this flaw.") I always listen to what people have to say and I have listened to you very well. (It sounds like there shouls be a "but" there, like, "I did MY job, but..." It's the "very well" that makes you sound a bit pompous there. I am guessing you were TRYING to say, "and have been takin your words to heart," or, "and have been paying very carefull attention to your lessons." Something like that.)

And this:


I will derive pleasure even when I suffer for I choose to.(Commas may have helped here. The sentence comes out a bit convoluted, even though reading it in your head it sounds right to you. Obviously you meant that you willfully choose to derive pleasure from your own suffering, a concept that many will still find questionable, but at first glance this sentence will make people stop and think, "you choose to suffer?" Perhaps better, or more realistically said, would have been, "even if I suffer, I will derive pleasure from..." so and so, like, "knowing that I am learning a valuable experience, and knowing that this particular mistake that has caused me suffering will be my last." Explain it a bit better I guess)

I tend to re-read my posts before posting, and sometimes even go back and edit them a few times afterwards. For you, it'll just depend on whether what others think of you, or what you are trying to say, matters to you personally (spend time on picking words carefully), or if the people you are specifically replying to are just a waste of your time and you just want to give them a brief explanation without much care (type, send, done). Since I don't know your opinion of people in general (you being an objectivist, I would have suspected that you would be cold and calculating, and wouldn't care to waste time on others when it's not productive or benefitial for your own purposes, but your statement of getting pleasure out of making others grow makes me think otherwise), it's up to you how you want to project yourself. Personally, I am fine with you continuing the way you have been, though that's mostly because I don't have a reason to care, since you have no effect on my life, and I can usually understand you just fine.
Btw, that took quite some time, so don't expect it often, but if I see you post and it feels "weird" somehow (not in just bad grammar sense), I'll try to point it out.

Hope that helps.
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...where the words he uses feel just a tad off in their meanings.

For future posterity, I would appreciate some examples. Frankly, I don't see any notable flaws in my writing although I would graciously accept any valid insight.

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September 23, 2011, 05:32:27 PM
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...where the words he uses feel just a tad off in their meanings.

For future posterity, I would appreciate some examples. Frankly, I don't see any notable flaws in my writing although I would graciously accept any valid insight.
"future posterity" = I just found a thesaurus.
"graciously accept" = clumsy and doesn't quite mean what you think it means. Perhaps you mean gracefully? Gratefully? Other people may view you as gracious but you cannot declare yourself such.

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I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.
"I take it in pride." Stride
"Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering." This sentence is contorted.
"I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights." Ditto.
Provisioning makes no sense in that context.
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September 23, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
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FYI things like this make you sound like a bombastic teenager.

Actually, it's not even your English that's the problem. It's your insane, misguided politics/philosophy/economic theory that you really need to fix.
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September 23, 2011, 06:01:49 PM
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"future posterity" = I just found a thesaurus.

Don't be hating on grammar/language nazis now. He supposedly reads (old) books. That's brobably where it comes from.

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"graciously accept" = clumsy and doesn't quite mean what you think it means. Perhaps you mean gracefully? Gratefully? Other people may view you as gracious but you cannot declare yourself such.
I think graciously, meaning kindly and courtiously, fits fine. Especially if he accepts it with a curtsie. Though I guess that could also mean in cold but indifferent politeness, if you really read into it way way too much.

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I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.
"I take it in pride." Stride

No, I think he did mean pride there. But yes, the sentence does sound convoluted, even if gramatically correct. Frankly, though, I can't think of better words to convey the meaning of him "taking it" and "pride."
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September 23, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
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No, I think he did mean pride there. But yes, the sentence does sound convoluted, even if gramatically correct. Frankly, though, I can't think of better words to convey the meaning of him "taking it" and "pride."

I think he literally wants to be accepted into your fur pride.
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September 23, 2011, 06:21:59 PM
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Oh, hey, ignore is working. Turned it off temporarily to see if I was missing anything. Turns out nothing important.  Tongue
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September 23, 2011, 06:24:11 PM
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"future posterity" = I just found a thesaurus.
"graciously accept" = clumsy and doesn't quite mean what you think it means. Perhaps you mean gracefully? Gratefully? Other people may view you as gracious but you cannot declare yourself such.

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I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.

Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need.
"I take it in pride." Stride
"Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering." This sentence is contorted.
"I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights." Ditto.
Provisioning makes no sense in that context.

This is snarky but valid feedback, Atlas.  The way you write makes you sound like you're emulating someone who's prone to flowery, absolutist, and grandiose language (and I think we know who that is), but that you don't have enough experience with the way people actually talk to pull it off.

edit: You can point to Stephen Fry's argument about creative use of language all you want, and it has validity, but at some point you're just using it as a crutch for ignorance, not creativity.  If someone said "I is good with langwidge" and then trotted out Stephen Fry, claiming it was perfectly clear what they meant, we'd call that person an idiot.
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September 23, 2011, 06:29:36 PM
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Oh, hey, ignore is working. Turned it off temporarily to see if I was missing anything. Turns out nothing important.  Tongue

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