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April 07, 2014, 07:29:56 PM
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This was my life before coinmarket.io

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idBm6OKzkAE

This is my life after coinmarket.io

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iszwuX1AK6A&noredirect=1

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April 07, 2014, 09:18:13 PM
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So has anyone, even one single person, actually done ANYTHING like calling the relevant authorities and/or reporting fraud or has this all just been a massive exercise in e-penis size comparison?

AFAIK, I'm the only one who's done anything so far (I MAY BE WRONG), little though it is.  I sent a description  of the problem and issues and a and link to this forum to ALL the reporters/admins at cryptocointalk.com and coinbase.com .  No interest.  I guess they either feel it isn't of large enough importance or that they don't want to roil the bitcoin waters any more and jeopardize the delicate coin environment.  Or, it may be that they just didn't read my email at all.

I think there's enough information to go to reporters/newspapers in their locations in Norway and Estonia.  I think that's easier than going to police, though I think that that is a necessary route, also.  I've just arrived in Thailand from the States and I'm tired and off-hours to Euro.  I think somebody Euro based should email/call the local news in Oslo and wherever in Estonia.  Police also.

I'm not out anything, since my account was a collection of small coins (about 4 BTC worth), but I got them out, since they weren't holding back my specific coins.  I'm only concerned with this on the macro level, hoping these scams being punished will help solidify the alt-coin world, keeping my mining rigs worth something, anything.

Let's go Euro-people!
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April 08, 2014, 01:31:38 AM
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So has anyone, even one single person, actually done ANYTHING like calling the relevant authorities and/or reporting fraud or has this all just been a massive exercise in e-penis size comparison?

AFAIK, I'm the only one who's done anything so far (I MAY BE WRONG), little though it is.  I sent a description  of the problem and issues and a and link to this forum to ALL the reporters/admins at cryptocointalk.com and coinbase.com .  No interest.  I guess they either feel it isn't of large enough importance or that they don't want to roil the bitcoin waters any more and jeopardize the delicate coin environment.  Or, it may be that they just didn't read my email at all.

I think there's enough information to go to reporters/newspapers in their locations in Norway and Estonia.  I think that's easier than going to police, though I think that that is a necessary route, also.  I've just arrived in Thailand from the States and I'm tired and off-hours to Euro.  I think somebody Euro based should email/call the local news in Oslo and wherever in Estonia.  Police also.

I'm not out anything, since my account was a collection of small coins (about 4 BTC worth), but I got them out, since they weren't holding back my specific coins.  I'm only concerned with this on the macro level, hoping these scams being punished will help solidify the alt-coin world, keeping my mining rigs worth something, anything.

Let's go Euro-people!

I'll be 100% behind you, or anyone else who can help prove that there was any crime committed here. 

BUT....

The police will still think we're just complaining that someone stole our secret sword in some abstract WoW world.   There is no crime here.  There never was.  The fact is: if BTC is the same as fiat currency, then we have a case.  If it is not, and it is a revolutionary way of holding value and wealth, then the established means of law enforcement is USELESS.  Learn your lesson.  That is all.

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April 08, 2014, 02:55:27 AM
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So has anyone, even one single person, actually done ANYTHING like calling the relevant authorities and/or reporting fraud or has this all just been a massive exercise in e-penis size comparison?

AFAIK, I'm the only one who's done anything so far (I MAY BE WRONG), little though it is.  I sent a description  of the problem and issues and a and link to this forum to ALL the reporters/admins at cryptocointalk.com and coinbase.com .  No interest.  I guess they either feel it isn't of large enough importance or that they don't want to roil the bitcoin waters any more and jeopardize the delicate coin environment.  Or, it may be that they just didn't read my email at all.

I think there's enough information to go to reporters/newspapers in their locations in Norway and Estonia.  I think that's easier than going to police, though I think that that is a necessary route, also.  I've just arrived in Thailand from the States and I'm tired and off-hours to Euro.  I think somebody Euro based should email/call the local news in Oslo and wherever in Estonia.  Police also.

I'm not out anything, since my account was a collection of small coins (about 4 BTC worth), but I got them out, since they weren't holding back my specific coins.  I'm only concerned with this on the macro level, hoping these scams being punished will help solidify the alt-coin world, keeping my mining rigs worth something, anything.

Let's go Euro-people!

I'll be 100% behind you, or anyone else who can help prove that there was any crime committed here.  

BUT....

The police will still think we're just complaining that someone stole our secret sword in some abstract WoW world.   There is no crime here.  There never was.  The fact is: if BTC is the same as fiat currency, then we have a case.  If it is not, and it is a revolutionary way of holding value and wealth, then the established means of law enforcement is USELESS.  Learn your lesson.  That is all.

-d

Not sure you're right, but you probably are, regarding "established means of...", and for sure it's a reasonable start to a discussion.  That uncertainty is why I pushed the newspaper/press route, rather than the police.  There are so many intricacies in this "alt-world".  Now, the IRS (US tax guys) just decided that in their eyes, BTC are not currency, but taxable property.  But, given that this exchange is hosted outside the US, run by PERHAPS a Norwegian and/or Estonian, the IRS's take doesn't really matter. The jurisdiction question is way out there on this one, so we agree that if the police were involved, we're looking at unlikely  precedent-setting occurrences here.  Newspaper/press notoriety deal is more along the lines of societal/tribal punitive action that might be the only viable means of market regulation, given no government/regulatory hammer.

The only place that we disagree is that I believe there IS a crime here.  I think you believe there's a crime also, just not one that can be proven in the context of the overlapping jurisdictions and lack of clear rules for an unregulated, intangible commodity.  That being said, precedents are set often, and this is a situation that should merit one, but I think we both know it's not happening.  Thus, the media route is the only solution, if one exists.
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April 08, 2014, 02:58:55 AM
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I think there's enough information to go to reporters/newspapers in their locations in Norway and Estonia.

Well, has anyone tried this yet? I didn't lose anything on CoinMarket; I got my btc off as soon as things started to go south fortunately. I think it would have more impact if someone who has actually lost money initiated the contact - with press or authorities or w/e.
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April 08, 2014, 03:05:47 AM
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ywwen   , but until now has not arrival, email has been verified2014-3-9     I Withdrawals  USDE2000000           2014-3-15  USDE3000030  I received the confirmation email and already confirmed the withdrawal  but has no transaction id! USDE-wallet: GT7DSVc8nSbnT8sjqPAtgvURT5FL3NGzfZ
I withdrew my USDE  by many different times since March 09, 2014, but I didn't receive these coins. However, I received the confirmation email and I have already confirmed these withdrawals.  So Where is my coins? What happened that cause my  coin loss? Sad Sad
ps:my USDE-wallet: GT7DSVc8nSbnT8sjqPAtgvURT5FL3NGzfZ


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April 08, 2014, 03:07:19 AM
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Okay I am officially rolling my eyes in real life every time someone posts in here saying "where my coins" like seriously do you people even read the last page of posts before posting??
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April 08, 2014, 05:09:53 AM
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I'll be 100% behind you, or anyone else who can help prove that there was any crime committed here. 

BUT....

The police will still think we're just complaining that someone stole our secret sword in some abstract WoW world.   There is no crime here.  There never was.  The fact is: if BTC is the same as fiat currency, then we have a case.  If it is not, and it is a revolutionary way of holding value and wealth, then the established means of law enforcement is USELESS.  Learn your lesson.  That is all.

-d

The nearly $400M in bitcoin that MtGox lost sure raised a flag for law enforcement. They might be scratching their heads trying to figure it out, but they know it is a big deal. If I lost coins on an exchange, and I believed fraud was involved, I'd report it to law enforcement even if I thought they would roll their eyes at me. Stealing bitcoins is a crime in almost every jurisdiction. Not reporting it just gives law enforcement an excuse to keep rolling their eyes.
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April 08, 2014, 06:31:25 AM
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how do I withdrawn my VTC?
its been pending for 3 weeks
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April 08, 2014, 08:07:39 AM
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The proof is if you desposit bitcoins to the site now you won't get them back. Every bitcoin that was desposited after the 25th Feb and hasn't been returned to users is proof of a scam.

They can still argue that the bitcoins deposited before the 25th feb was stolen which is obviously a complete lie but where is the bitcoins deposited after the 25?lol

Where would my bitcoins go if I deposited them in today.lol

Honestly people need to wake the fuck up.




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April 08, 2014, 08:41:39 AM
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BTW Vald is from Estonia, he also got defensive when some guy said some shit about Estonians on this thread... maybe he can help out Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=442256.0

Quote from their website:

"Are you going to run off with my coins?
Yes, we are planning to shut down and buy our private island -
as soon as enough people deposit their hard earned coins."











Just kidding! Coinmarket.io seems like a really interesting platform because it's accepting new coins before other exchanges, and it doesn't crash / lag much, hopefully it will stay this way.

That said, before I signed up, fees were only 0.10%, now it seems they went up to 0.15%, is there some way to get a discount on the fee or is this just a change?


If this guy is from Estonia then he will be able to retire with the btc he just stole. its almost as bad as a Nigerian running a exchange. We definitely need regulation now.

Get the fuck out.




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April 08, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
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I wonder how much money people lose. Still he point out it is beta everywhere, but at this point it all just goes too far.

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April 08, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
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I wonder how much money people lose. Still he point out it is beta everywhere, but at this point it all just goes too far.

The whole "beta" disclaimer BS is only exculpatory given that the user acknowledges that the site  is still in testing status and that there are technical limitations; mistakes and glitches are part of the process and the site adminatrator is not responsible for mishaps under those conditions.  It does NOT absolve the site manager from guilt for obvious fraud and misrepresentation. 
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April 08, 2014, 01:40:09 PM
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how do I withdrawn my VTC?
its been pending for 3 weeks

Step 1: Build a time machine
Step 2: Go back in time to before you deposited onto CoinMarket.io
Step 3: Resist urge to deposit on CoinMarket.io




....If you want a serious response try reading the thread before posting.
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April 08, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
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ywwen   , but until now has not arrival, email has been verified2014-3-9     I Withdrawals  USDE2000000           2014-3-15  USDE3000030  I received the confirmation email and already confirmed the withdrawal  but has no transaction id! So Where is my coins? What happened that cause my  coin loss?
USDE-wallet: GT7DSVc8nSbnT8sjqPAtgvURT5FL3NGzfZ

Sat Mar 15 2014 10:19:54   1000000   USDE      confirmed
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Sun Mar 09 2014 01:54:17   2000000   USDE      confirmed
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April 08, 2014, 02:16:23 PM
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Anyone seen this: https://www.bleutrade.com/exchange

Looks similar to coinmarket.io in style?
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April 08, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
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Still haven't received my stuck rdd Huh
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April 08, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
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I wonder how much money people lose. Still he point out it is beta everywhere, but at this point it all just goes too far.

Lol well i think people will care less that it was beta when they found them on the street. I just think they are would even have in mind changing their face or anything different.

Best way to find them is to Post their faces on all community pages / blogs. And a good reason why people should look out for them.

I will tell you that you gonna see lots of reports from the people around the world.
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April 08, 2014, 04:23:36 PM
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Does anyone remember that story a few years back where the guy bought a laptop on ebay and it was broken so he recovered data off the hard drive and started a whole website where he posted embarrassing pictures of the seller/scammer that were recovered from the hard drive?
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April 08, 2014, 04:55:57 PM
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ywwen   , but until now has not arrival, email has been verified2014-3-9     I Withdrawals  USDE2000000           2014-3-15  USDE3000030  I received the confirmation email and already confirmed the withdrawal  but has no transaction id! So Where is my coins? What happened that cause my  coin loss?
USDE-wallet: GT7DSVc8nSbnT8sjqPAtgvURT5FL3NGzfZ

Sat Mar 15 2014 10:19:54   1000000   USDE      confirmed
Sat Mar 15 2014 10:19:53   1000000   USDE      confirmed
Sat Mar 15 2014 10:19:53   1000000   USDE      confirmed
Sun Mar 09 2014 01:54:17   2000000   USDE      confirmed

You should send coinmarket  a PM, I'm sure they would fix your problem  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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