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May 15, 2012, 12:16:00 AM
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Is it possible to add my Chrome extension to the list of sites? The ads appear on the little popup that appears when you click on the extension button but the popup doesn't have a URL to put into the "new site" page.

You can see the screenshots here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fblekdojabihjdhndhmloalbcnnejddl to see where the ad appears.


Chrome extension is not a site, but it definitely deserves to be seen by advertisers. Maybe in future I develop a feature to list alternative ad places, but currently I suggest that you create a single page site (at least a forum/blog post) devoted to it and embed the same affiliate code into it. You could explain there that that ad is shown on extension too. The link to that site (or post) can be added to the site list.

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BTW I have limited the height of the ad so that image ads are not that intrusive but I believe this is no problem as the worst that can happen is that image ads are clicked less often and thus pay me less and thus appear less often.

I keep in mind that affiliates need a better control for the ads they display. I think I will come with a solution some day, just need to find time and set priorities Smiley

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May 15, 2012, 12:29:34 AM
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Is it possible to add my Chrome extension to the list of sites? The ads appear on the little popup that appears when you click on the extension button but the popup doesn't have a URL to put into the "new site" page.

You can see the screenshots here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fblekdojabihjdhndhmloalbcnnejddl to see where the ad appears.


Chrome extension is not a site, but it definitely deserves to be seen by advertisers. Maybe in future I develop a feature to list alternative ad places, but currently I suggest that you create a single page site (at least a forum/blog post) devoted to it and embed the same affiliate code into it. You could explain there that that ad is shown on extension too. The link to that site (or post) can be added to the site list.
Sure I'll make then a blog page or blog post about it with the ad on it and paste than instead.
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BTW I have limited the height of the ad so that image ads are not that intrusive but I believe this is no problem as the worst that can happen is that image ads are clicked less often and thus pay me less and thus appear less often.

I keep in mind that affiliates need a better control for the ads they display. I think I will come with a solution some day, just need to find time and set priorities Smiley
Don't worry THAT much about that. I am fine with my solution for the time being. I would have used the <script> version of the ad but IIRC there was some problem embedding external scripts that call document.write into extension popups.

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May 17, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
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Javascript version of affiliate's code can work asynchronously now (that means it shouldn't slow down loading of affiliate's page).

Affiliates that use js-code might be interested in adding defer and async attributes to it, e.g.:

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<script src='http://anonymousads.com/a/1?js' defer='defer' async='async'></script>

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May 17, 2012, 08:15:40 PM
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I'm having trouble understanding how to reward affiliates. If their address is passed to my server in the URL, can't I just directly send them a commission when a user purchases something (in my case)? Why do I need to create goals on your page and sign stuff with RSA keys?

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May 17, 2012, 08:16:41 PM
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I am pretty sure you can do what you say. Goals are optional.

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May 17, 2012, 08:22:12 PM
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Yes, they are optional. Goals (and RSA keys) are for those who don't want to modify their databases and to maintain the lists of affiliates on their sites.

You can reward affiliates for sales. That is the recommended way of doing it.

But if you don't have enough impressions or sales yet, you can reward affiliates for nothing just to get more impressions from them. I would reward affiliates that advertise on particular sites (you can also search them).

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May 17, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
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Alright, thanks. This sounds great!

I tried CoinURL for advertising the other day, but I'm fairly disappointed. About 75% of visitors are most likely fraudulent, and there is zero interest whatsoever; so a way of rewarding successful sales makes me beam with excitement!

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May 18, 2012, 12:41:51 AM
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I tried CoinURL for advertising the other day, but I'm fairly disappointed. About 75% of visitors are most likely fraudulent
Yes, we got bunch of fake clicks, but almost all of them are being removed from the database each day after analysis and are NOT counted.

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May 20, 2012, 01:21:40 AM
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Long ago there was a post that explains the algorithm of ad selection.

I am writing this new post to inform that today this algorithm was modified. Ad's probability of being shown doesn't depend on past impressions now. It only depends on reward score (that is <amount of btc rewarded to affiliate during ad's billing cycle>/<amount of days in ad's billing cycle>). Here is the new query of ad selection (responsible for ~90% of ad impressions):

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SELECT * FROM Relays WHERE affiliateAddress=$affiliateAddress ORDER BY rand()/(1+activeRewardScore) limit 1

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May 20, 2012, 01:47:25 AM
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This also means that it only picks the best one and not one at random (weighted by activeRewardScore)?

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May 20, 2012, 01:49:28 AM
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This also means that it only picks the best one and not one at random (weighted by activeRewardScore)?

It picks weighted random (see "rand()/(1+activeRewardScore)").

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May 20, 2012, 02:13:06 AM
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New feature: non-unique clicks and impressions on the stat's page.

Anonymous Ads used to count only impressions with IPs that are unique for the whole advertising network.

So if some visitor saw (or clicked) some ad from one affiliate, and then within 24 hours saw (or clicked) some other ad from another affiliate, the latter impression (or click) wouldn't be counted. Thus according to stats Anonymous Ads shows ads to almost 30k unique IPs daily.

And now non-unique impressions and clicks are counted too and are shown on site stats page.

You can see, that according to current stats only 15% of all impressions are unique.

That means if your ad has 1500 unique impressions, it might have in fact 10000 total impressions including fake ones (though I don't think affiliates have enough incentive to generate many fake clicks and impressions since they are usually not paid for it).

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May 30, 2012, 01:04:28 PM
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Great job, Arsenische

Here's an idea: what about instead of linking to AnonymousAds.com in every ad, linking instead directly to the site's page, the one that contains "Advertiser! Pay any amount to get impressions from this affiliate..."

About the weight system, do you think it's a fair system? if an advertiser pays to advertise for a website in particular from the page I mentionned earlier, does his money can go to some other website's pocket because of a bigger 'weight'? I'm asking because I see a huge different in 'weight', between 20 and 15000
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May 30, 2012, 02:30:11 PM
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Here's an idea: what about instead of linking to AnonymousAds.com in every ad, linking instead directly to the site's page, the one that contains "Advertiser! Pay any amount to get impressions from this affiliate..."

Thanks for your feedback, Bro, I was thinking about it too. Or maybe there should be 2 links: "Ads by Anonyous Ads" and "Your ad here". Also maybe there should be a nicer landing page for potential advertisers of your site. I plan to work on this soon. Currently you can just place a link "Your ad here" to send visitors to your affiliate's page.

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About the weight system, do you think it's a fair system? if an advertiser pays to advertise for a website in particular from the page I mentionned earlier, does his money can go to some other website's pocket because of a bigger 'weight'?

No, all the money that advertiser pays to affiliate's reward address goes to that particular affiliate (AA takes a small fee of 0.001 btc upon each affiliate's withdrawal).

Weights are used only in 2 cases:
1) when advertisers pay AA to bootstrap ads (10% of bootstrap money goes to affiliate that attracted the advertiser, and 50% of bootstrap money goes to affiliates with respect to their sites' weights).
2) when advertisers use "Pay for sites" feature.

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I see a huge different in 'weight', between 20 and 15000

But there is also a huge difference between sites that generate 20 and 15000 unique impressions monthly (though I don't assign weights based on impressions since they  don't represent the value of the traffic).

Weight system can't be 100% fair since AA can't know how much revenue particular affiliate generates to advertisers. It is not intended to be the main source of income for affiliates (and ideally there should be no such mechanism at all) so think of it as of a temporary mechanism for supporting affiliates that show ads on sites.

I plan to rework a lot of things in AA to make it more convenient for advertisers and more profitable for affiliates, but it will take time.

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May 31, 2012, 03:41:16 PM
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Does AA support https? Our site runs purely on https and we can't have anything there that isn't https. We ran into this problem with bitcoinadvertisers and they don't support https right now.

We could probably make http ads work with some work but we don't have time to implement a workaround right now.

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May 31, 2012, 05:12:40 PM
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Thanks for your question. Only graphic version supports https currently (just replace http with https in your affiliate code). I will add support to other codes too.

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May 31, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
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Thanks for your question. Only graphic version supports https currently (just replace http with https in your affiliate code). I will add support to other codes too.
Thanks for the answer Smiley We're mainly interested in text ads but it's good to hear that you're adding support. Our site will most likely be displaying your ads soon.

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June 04, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
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arsenische drop us a line when you allow https for script ads etc cause I am switching bittit.info to enforced https and I need that too. :-)

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June 05, 2012, 10:05:58 AM
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arsenische drop us a line when you allow https for script ads etc cause I am switching bittit.info to enforced https and I need that too. :-)

ok.. here is the new feature: https support

you can just replace http with https, it should work (or use generic links without specifying the protocol, e.g. //anonymousads.com)

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June 06, 2012, 10:18:16 AM
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ok.. here is the new feature: https support

you can just replace http with https, it should work (or use generic links without specifying the protocol, e.g. //anonymousads.com)
Great! My site will probably be displaying your ads soon.

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