[CLOSING DOWN] ScryptGuild Auto-Switching Pool

[Starscream]

I did include in my calculation the reject rate I got here and what I usually get on other pools (in CM and SG I get 5%~ reject with -i 18, 3%~ on hashcows and MC and 0-0.3% on Waffle).

Just going to let you know one thing:  If you see 0-0.3% on Waffle, they are probably lying to you on Stales by marking stale shares as valid (which doesn't impact earnings at all on a non-PPS payment method, since everybody is getting lied to, and it actually benefits people with bad setups over people with proper setups).  This was a very common activity on Bitcoin pools in the getwork days to make people think they were performing better than competition.  The only way you'd get 0-0.3% is if they are 100% on Auroracoin and Litecoin, and even then it's EXTREMELY unlikely unless you're running low intensity and have a basically direct connection to the pool.


0.3% reject rate is literally impossible to achieve on an Scrypt pool on high block rate coins due to how intensity works and the frequency of blocks.  If the pool is outright excluding low difficulty coins, they are not making you as much money as they could just for the sake of prettier stats.  As stated previously, ScryptGuild applies heavy penalties to low difficulty coins, fully expecting a big spike in stales when it mines them.  Getting a 5-9% stale on a coin which has been penalized 10% for it's low difficulty still makes it more profitable than the alternatives.

Waffle is a rather conservative auto switching pool and they do exclude low difficulty coins from my understanding.
Yes I know they don't make me as much as I could be making hence why I am not using them.

But regardless, I wouldn't go as far as saying they are lying.

Edit: I did type in my post that your pool, according to my results, was 2nd highest in profitability.

[mdude77]

its vardiff, cant change it.

Can't make it permanently lower than what vardiff sets it to, but you can make it permanently higher and increase your variance.

M

[ericisback]

eleuthria, I noticed that the finger pointing down, and the "dropdown" on the "Pool Speed" icon disappeared.  It showed the pool speed for each coin type.  Do you plan on bringing that back? - it was helpful   Great new pool , by the way!!!!!

[geokilla]

Just joined this pool and loving it so far! However, how do I know what coin it is mining right now? I see it says "Automatic Coin: WDC" but my account balance doesn't have any WDC at all. Instead, there's MOON, LTC, DOGE, DGC, and LOT.

Also, is 600Kh/s for a 7950 good? My config for SGMiner is as follows:

Code:

"failover-only" : true,
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"xintensity" : "4",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"kernel" : "zuikkis",
"thread-concurrency" : "8193"

[NuSalvo]

For scrypt mining, the KH is not as important as your WU/m.  You should be within 90% of your KH ideally, but 600 kh for a 7950 is good.

You are paid based on the previous work as well, so the balance will continue to rise over the next 5 hours if any blocks are found for that coin during the period.  Go to PPLNS stats, and then details to see exactly what you have earned per hour.

I don't get why people have such high reject rates either, I have 2 setups at ~0.3-0.5% after 24 hours on this pool!  Scrypt doesn't use nearly the bandwidth of an ASIC miner.  Make sure you wait several hours before getting a reading.  Even when doing a fresh restart, some of the first few shares come out as duplicate/reject/stale.

[eleuthria]

Just joined this pool and loving it so far! However, how do I know what coin it is mining right now? I see it says "Automatic Coin: WDC" but my account balance doesn't have any WDC at all. Instead, there's MOON, LTC, DOGE, DGC, and LOT.

The pool switches coins extremely frequently.  Your earnings are updated hourly when a shift closes.  Also:  Looking at your account, you have auto convert on, and no reserve for WDC, so it's only in your account for a few minutes before being swapped out for Bitcoins.

[eleuthria]

eleuthria, I noticed that the finger pointing down, and the "dropdown" on the "Pool Speed" icon disappeared.  It showed the pool speed for each coin type.  Do you plan on bringing that back? - it was helpful   Great new pool , by the way!!!!!

It's gone for now, mostly because that list was getting quite large, and it's on a 1-hour delay (pool speed is updated hourly, based on the speed average for the last shift).  It confused people seeing only 200-300 MH/s on the current auto coin, even though basically the entire pool was on it, we just weren't on it for very long.

[SebyM]

hey eleuthria,

Can you show the server's current time somewhere ?
Either that or add a profile option to set some correction to our individual timezones, the Worker activity graph is off by a value i can't pinpoint too well and I'm guessing it will affect future graphs as well.

Thanks for the great work! If you need anymore programming help I'm volunteering for free

LE: GMT +4 ?

[geokilla]

For scrypt mining, the KH is not as important as your WU/m.  You should be within 90% of your KH ideally, but 600 kh for a 7950 is good.

You are paid based on the previous work as well, so the balance will continue to rise over the next 5 hours if any blocks are found for that coin during the period.  Go to PPLNS stats, and then details to see exactly what you have earned per hour.

I don't get why people have such high reject rates either, I have 2 setups at ~0.3-0.5% after 24 hours on this pool!  Scrypt doesn't use nearly the bandwidth of an ASIC miner.  Make sure you wait several hours before getting a reading.  Even when doing a fresh restart, some of the first few shares come out as duplicate/reject/stale.

Ah thanks. According to CGWatcher, I got 555 work utility shares/minute. I guess that's good since it's in your ~90% range.

Just joined this pool and loving it so far! However, how do I know what coin it is mining right now? I see it says "Automatic Coin: WDC" but my account balance doesn't have any WDC at all. Instead, there's MOON, LTC, DOGE, DGC, and LOT.

The pool switches coins extremely frequently.  Your earnings are updated hourly when a shift closes.  Also:  Looking at your account, you have auto convert on, and no reserve for WDC, so it's only in your account for a few minutes before being swapped out for Bitcoins.

Interesting. Thanks for your reply. Also what you just did was creepy haha, but no worries ^^

[bigfella]

hey eleuthria,

Can you show the server's current time somewhere ?
Either that or add a profile option to set some correction to our individual timezones, the Worker activity graph is off by a value i can't pinpoint too well and I'm guessing it will affect future graphs as well.

Thanks for the great work! If you need anymore programming help I'm volunteering for free

LE: GMT +4 ?

+1 on the time zone suggestion - I was thinking the same thing this morning.

[dadach]

so whats this pools btc/mh?

[organofcorti]

so whats this pools btc/mh?

That a kind of an odd measurement, but I get  9.259259e-08 btc per Mhash.

[eleuthria]

so whats this pools btc/mh?

That a kind of an odd measurement, but I get  9.259259e-08 btc per Mhash.

Ah organofcorti, always trolling people .


As for the actual question:  That statistic isn't currently tracked, since unlike many other multipools, this pool does not convert all coins (its optional).  It's in the plans of things to add, but it's not as trivial to add as looking at pool speed vs BTC traded, since only a fraction of the pool's mining capacity is actually converted to BTC.

My plan is to make the 2nd graph on the charts page a stacked chart, where you can see Total BTC generated per day, with a breakdown of how much each coin contributed.  Once that is in place, there will be enough data logged to also generate a figure for how much 1 MH/s generated that day.

[organofcorti]

so whats this pools btc/mh?

That a kind of an odd measurement, but I get  9.259259e-08 btc per Mhash.

Ah organofcorti, always trolling people .

You say trolling, I say taking the piss. It's just a trans-pacific culture difference

As for the actual question:  That statistic isn't currently tracked, since unlike many other multipools, this pool does not convert all coins (its optional).  It's in the plans of things to add, but it's not as trivial to add as looking at pool speed vs BTC traded, since only a fraction of the pool's mining capacity is actually converted to BTC.

My plan is to make the 2nd graph on the charts page a stacked chart, where you can see Total BTC generated per day, with a breakdown of how much each coin contributed.  Once that is in place, there will be enough data logged to also generate a figure for how much 1 MH/s generated that day.

How about tracking the per-user data? For users that only do the full conversion, could you track what they receive per day and report the average of that?

For example yesterday I got ~0.008 btc per 86.4Ghashes (or btc per day per mhps, if you prefer that silly measurement unit).

[eleuthria]

How about tracking the per-user data? For users that only do the full conversion, could you track what they receive per day and report the average of that?

For example yesterday I got ~0.008 btc per 86.4Ghashes (or btc per day per mhps, if you prefer that silly measurement unit).

The idea is two sets of charts.  One is the actual coins received in a 24 hour period.  The other is the approximate BTC earned in that 24-hour period, using the coins you earned per shift multiplied by the average price when that shift was converted.  The first chart will be precise, based on actual coins paid for each shift.  The second one will be an approximation, based on actual coins paid for each shift multiplied by average BTC price at the time the shift closed.

[_r2h]

hey eleuthria,

Can you show the server's current time somewhere ?
Either that or add a profile option to set some correction to our individual timezones, the Worker activity graph is off by a value i can't pinpoint too well and I'm guessing it will affect future graphs as well.

Thanks for the great work! If you need anymore programming help I'm volunteering for free

LE: GMT +4 ?

+1 on the time zone suggestion - I was thinking the same thing this morning.

Looks like it's EST.

[mdude77]

Hey op, looks like something has to change with moon.  I just saw this on Cryptsy:

The MOON/BTC Market will be shutting down due to the low price - You may continue to use MOON/LTC market

Only buy left is for 0.00000001 a piece.

M

[rt123]

Hey op, looks like something has to change with moon.  I just saw this on Cryptsy:

The MOON/BTC Market will be shutting down due to the low price - You may continue to use MOON/LTC market

Only buy left is for 0.00000001 a piece.

M

Yup.

Looks like it is time to get rid of MoonCoin for good.

It has bit the dust.

[ManeBjorn]

Looks like a full moon with a large crack in it.
Still hope it can recover.

Hey op, looks like something has to change with moon.  I just saw this on Cryptsy:

The MOON/BTC Market will be shutting down due to the low price - You may continue to use MOON/LTC market

Only buy left is for 0.00000001 a piece.

M

Yup.

Looks like it is time to get rid of MoonCoin for good.

It has bit the dust.

[guytechie]

I don't see any notice about LTC not automatically converting to BTC anymore.  Does that mean its now implemented?