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July 14, 2018, 05:05:01 AM
Last edit: July 14, 2018, 08:13:22 AM by mymenace
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Re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41411073#msg41411073

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc., ...
Note that signing a verifiable message from an early block or the genesis block is exactly what the real Satoshi should be able to do. I, for example could sign a verifiable message from any block from my old wallet.dat - main thread here:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for forum account recovery etc.,

1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am not Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you?
42/ is the answer.
Be seeing you at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
0.00000000 - BitcoinFX - bitcointalk.org - July 9th, 2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp
HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF/aMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB/j2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq+lC0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp&vrMsg=I%20am%20not%20Satoshi%20Nakamoto.%20Are%20you%3F%0A42%2F%20is%20the%20answer.%0ABe%20seeing%20you%20at%20The%20Restaurant%20at%20the%20End%20of%20the%20Universe%3F%0A0.00000000%20-%20BitcoinFX%20-%20bitcointalk.org%20-%20July%209th%2C%202018&vrSig=HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF%2FaMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB%2Fj2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq%2BlC0%3D


A lot here I am missing and struggling to piece together

Theory of Everything
Satoshi Nakamoto
KLM
The Plan - Q
Bitcoin 2
Segregated Witness
Roger F#$kin Ver
Gavin F$%Kin Andreessseeen
Liberty Reserve
Julian Assange
IXCoin I0Coin
Current geopolitical movements and arrests
BitDNS
Zero (Still working on this keeps coming up)
Secret Projects

etc etc etc

Time, I will be able to piece it together, hopefully before the storm (if it comes)

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July 14, 2018, 07:47:32 AM
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When reading the excerpt it certainly reads as credible and doesn't point to anything unreasonable. I can understand the doubt people have but something about it feels authentic. Of course it could be one mans elaborate effort to create a book with some ulterior motive. One thing for sure is that if the book attempts to poo-poo BTC and praise BCH we'll know instantly that it's a load of bullshit. But nothing in the excerpt seems to suggest that. If what he's going to set straight is that 'Craig Wright isn't Satoshi' then that would be a big credibility bonus. There could also be many reasons for not signing with his own key. Perhaps as part of his big plan to disappear was also to destroy his keys thereby ensuring that he can never spend the first minted coins or authenticate himself in the future. To ensure that S. Nakamoto dies when his key dies so that not even himself can go back on his grand plan.

For now, it was a great read and certainly seemed to come from the heart. Especially liked the mention of Hal Finney. A true legend in the Bitcoin Universe.
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July 14, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
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Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?

this satoshi obsession is pretty funny to be honest. So many people can pretend to be satoshi nakamoto, there is only one way to check though, that is him to sign a transaction from his wallet
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July 14, 2018, 08:20:46 AM
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this satoshi obsession is pretty funny to be honest. So many people can pretend to be satoshi nakamoto, there is only one way to check though, that is him to sign a transaction from his wallet

Signing a message would be better, a message of your choice.

Thanks for reading my post.
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July 14, 2018, 08:29:18 AM
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I feel hesitant about this news. Because someone who has barely appeared in a decade and wants to come back will be when high prices skyrocketed last year and now when it has plummeted a lot. For me it is nothing more than speculation, there is no guarantee that the price will affect us all hope that it will happen we do not even know if it is true and if it then then it will be great and whales will return to Bitcoin and it will pump up enough Bitcoin prices nice.
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July 14, 2018, 07:57:27 PM
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I'm thinking its definitely not him.

Looking at his older posts, Satoshi was never that wordy, unless he was trying to technically explain something. He didn't have a penchant for drama, and obviously wanted to maintain his anonymity. He also doesn't need any money, or to say anything, because his work speaks for itself.


Indeed. I always found Satoshi to be very direct and to the point, almost with an air of arrogance in this regard sometimes we might assume?

For example, I've heard people say that Satoshi's quote; "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry." - 2010-07-29 - sounds like CWS i.e. @ProfFaustus on twitter. However, the ego presented by this fellow is enough to put me off considering even using BCH let alone anyone new to Bitcoin, in my honest and humble opinion.

If CWS was a protagonist behind bitcoin (with Dave Kleiman / others) then I think we can assume for certain that Kleiman or someone else did most of the communicating here on bitcointalk? If Kleiman knew he was potentially unwell and/or dying, then we might certainly understand his perspective in regards to making such a comment, if he did.

CWS, according to his twitter feed is working on more papers ... to be published ...

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.0

The paradox of Bitcoin Cash
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4663094.0

...

Anyhow, I think us humans are very well conditioned to make connections and to see patterns where there are probably none, hopefully.  Smiley

Sometimes my posts simply try to highlight the ridiculous nature of these occurrences.

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July 14, 2018, 09:25:50 PM
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I'm thinking its definitely not him.
Looking at his older posts, Satoshi was never that wordy, unless he was trying to technically explain something. He didn't have a penchant for drama, and obviously wanted to maintain his anonymity. He also doesn't need any money, or to say anything, because his work speaks for itself.
Indeed. I always found Satoshi to be very direct and to the point, almost with an air of arrogance in this regard sometimes we might assume?
For example, I've heard people say that Satoshi's quote; "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry." - 2010-07-29 - sounds like CWS i.e. @ProfFaustus on twitter. However, the ego presented by this fellow is enough to put me off considering even using BCH let alone anyone new to Bitcoin, in my honest and humble opinion.
If CWS was a protagonist behind bitcoin (with Dave Kleiman / others) then I think we can assume for certain that Kleiman or someone else did most of the communicating here on bitcointalk? If Kleiman knew he was potentially unwell and/or dying, then we might certainly understand his perspective in regards to making such a comment, if he did.
CWS, according to his twitter feed is working on more papers ... to be published ...
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.0
The paradox of Bitcoin Cash
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4663094.0
...
Anyhow, I think us humans are very well conditioned to make connections and to see patterns where there are probably none, hopefully.  Smiley

Sometimes my posts simply try to highlight the ridiculous nature of these occurrences.


see pattern, see connections

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all
Why does Roger's friend Gavin Andresseenn give him Bcash code

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger


Yeah it hurts, where are our COINS!


been hunting this for 5 years and Roger is gonna help find them

My Story of Being Tortured in Prison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ07sM5w_Dk


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My Story of Being Tortured by the Blockchain

All the evidence is right there

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July 15, 2018, 12:35:52 AM
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From:
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‏Verified account @ProfFaustus (twitter.com)
- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1018249107083874304

" You don't use keys to prove identity. Keys only prove access to keys. I find it remarkable how many so called security "experts" fail at this most basic of points.

A cryptographic key cannot prove identity. It only proves knowledge of the key and that is distinct from identity. "


...

True, but ... https://youtu.be/hl1nPssCL1E and https://youtu.be/lhMV37a7xmY

So, still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. (or just no access yet?!?).

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July 15, 2018, 01:44:12 AM
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From:
Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus (twitter.com)
- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1018249107083874304

" You don't use keys to prove identity. Keys only prove access to keys. I find it remarkable how many so called security "experts" fail at this most basic of points.

A cryptographic key cannot prove identity. It only proves knowledge of the key and that is distinct from identity. "


...

True, but ... https://youtu.be/hl1nPssCL1E and https://youtu.be/lhMV37a7xmY

So, still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. (or just no access yet?!?).


Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10

The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.

Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.

People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.




Yep Satoshi is back to kill his own blockchain  Huh Shocked Shocked Grin

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July 16, 2018, 09:34:03 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2018, 09:52:36 PM by BitcoinFX
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Back to the topic then ...

The paper contains a couple of references to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)

" ... The number 42 is, in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", calculated by an enormous supercomputer named Deep Thought over a period of 7.5 million years. Unfortunately, no one knows what the question is. Thus, to calculate the Ultimate Question, a special computer the size of a small planet was built from organic components and named "Earth". The Ultimate Question "What do you get when you multiply six by nine" was found by Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect in the second book of the series, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. ... "

and

" ... In Japanese culture, the number 42 is considered unlucky because the numerals when pronounced separately—shi ni (four two)—sound like the word "death". ...

oh, and not forgetting the most important bit ...



So, .... some facts and some fiction here perhaps?

Remember : The next time someone asks you to explain how Bitcoin works ... Tell them it works like a chain of 'solved' rubiks cubes (magic cubes), where all the contained transaction data must match up (like the faces of the cube), before any work on the next cube (block) can commence.

Magic Internet Money - Who knew ?  Smiley

- https://youtu.be/aboZctrHfK8

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July 17, 2018, 04:47:30 PM
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hey bro! i just saw that you are one of the first Bitcoin enthusiasts, can you please say how many BTC did you have back that time? how many could you mine in a day with a regular home PC?
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July 17, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
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He's unknown, how can you know he will write a book?
That's all myth my friend Smiley
but whatever, I still want to see what's next Wink
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July 17, 2018, 06:51:26 PM
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Actually BTC created a developer named Satoshi based on this there is a news that he come back again based on this actually I don’t have enough knowledge about this but we should know that he’s real or not because many types of person come and tell they are satoshi so there is a conflict.
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July 17, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
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How can a dead person write a book .He dead bro .
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July 17, 2018, 07:19:37 PM
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Bitcoin 2 coming ??   Shocked  21,000,000 bitcoins is less for world economy which is $50,000,000,000,000/year

I always though that if bitcoin survived till that limit, they will increase the number. There is no practical limitation.
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July 17, 2018, 07:22:19 PM
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His account on this forum has not being accessed for several years.I doubt he will ever reveal his identity because he is someone of great interest.Even his bitcoins has never been moved.
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July 17, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
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Everything Satoshi wanted to say has been said in code.

The gospel according to Satoshi - https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Free bitcoin in ? - Stay tuned for this years Bitcoin hunt!
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July 17, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
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How can a dead person write a book .He dead bro .
Thats is a possibilty, that he is dead, if that be the case, there will be more stability on bitcoin since it will means his bitcoins will never be moved
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July 17, 2018, 08:09:12 PM
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I think that all this epic about the fact that the real Satoshi Nakamoto will write a book is just another of the mechanisms with the help of a whales will continue to control the consciousness of the masses. The true Satoshi Nakamoto is not the one who writes the book and the one who can demonstrate that he really owns private keys to a million bitcoins.
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July 17, 2018, 09:02:42 PM
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Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
If bitcoin creator , Satoshi Nakamot is alive and even available why then is he not surfacing for a longer period of time despite the speculations and consipiracy theory surrounding his existence.
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