BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan

[JollyGood]

How have they been harmed if they lost no money? That makes zero sense.

You are quite literally not paying people their winnings, and still haven't offered a reasonable explanation for why you've voided the contest and bets.

When you saw I was using it you even said "Imao it's the exact source of BaB 1." and I said "is that a problem?"
You then said "You could use it and hope Daniel doesn't notice lol"
Yet I'm in the wrong here yeah?

Yes. Obviously. You were the one that pirated the software, not me. Even though this is out taken out of context (where I go on to tell you it's best to buy a license, or comply with the terms).  And this directly contradicts statements you repeatedly made Daniel and the CGF and then even publicly:

You know we were under the opinion, wrongly, that we were able to use that code after discussing it with RHavar.

Blaming me for your piracy for no reason, based on conversations we had in-confidence after the fact. I very clearly never endorsed piracy (just pointed out you could get away with it if Daniel doesn't notice) and several times encouraged you to follow the license. You obviously thought very little of our "friendship" if you were willing to try stab me in the back so easily?

You've told me about many actual pirated BaB sites and said you don't even bother going after them even when they were making millions of $ yet you jumped straight on BetKing when we had zero players playing in the game?

I don't care. I no longer own BaB. It's not my place to care. Almost everyone without fail who pirates copies of BaB ends up failing. Why? Because a gambling business is built upon trust, so by starting with known pirated software it almost guarantees you will never be trusted.  You'll notice yours is falling apart because no one trusts you any more (and can you blame them? The last months you've done nothing but lie and walk back promises).

The only reason I cared about you pirating BaB was because you were going around blaming me (why?!!) and repeatedly saying other falsehoods (e.g. you didn't know) along with a lot of other unethical behavior (e.g. running the pirated version for a week or so to see how well it did before "deciding" to comply with the license, even though Daniel repeatedly told you he was not ok with that that). And then you obfuscated the source (changing stuff like the canvas to an svg) and tried to pretend it was a reimplementation.

I'm sorry, but all that's on you. And all that's behavior by someone hilariously untrustworthy.

So it is clear:

Scammer Dean Nolan did not want to pay 2 BTC for licenced software and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan locked his scam betking thread and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan said two months ago he was leaving the BitcoinTalk forums and would never return and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan returned to BitcoinTalk forums in time to cash-in on Christmas betting and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan did not want to pay over 20 BTC that was won in the Christmas wager and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan basically has zero shame and zero heart. He is a greedy little imbecile that became a scammer and ruined his (and his betking websites) reputation because he went down the scamming road rather than stay on the straight and narrow.

[JollyGood]

At 12:07:08 AM scammer Dean Nolan posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023833.msg49036517#msg49036517

"Sorry for the delay.
We will be back online tomorrow."

Now nearly 12 hours after the post he made in his now locked betking official thread and nearly 24 hours after the scam betking website went down, there is silence from the scammer Dean Nolan about his scam betking website and it is still down.

(let us read his post when posts in his locked scam betking thread to explain why the website was down, we will see if it is as hilarious as the reasons why he refused to pay out over 20 BTC to legitimate winners of Christmas wagers last week)

Would a professional outfit would be so pathetic and so lazy? Would a professional outfit blame his own coding failures on DDoS attacks when it is clear the host website has the error  

[lite]

I seriously did not expect this from Dean. Looks like I'm and everyone who invested in BKB or in site are done.

Everything is back on track, Had a doubt for a sec but Dean managed to get things on track. New Betking site has been launched and so far it's looking good. Buy back are happening hourly with profit made on BK.

[JollyGood]

I seriously did not expect this from Dean. Looks like I'm and everyone who invested in BKB or in site are done.

Sometimes the scammer Dean Nolan claims he bought back 80% of tokens, sometimes he claims it was 95%. He cannot even get his story straight.

The fact of the matter is scammer Dean Nolan is probably on Skype right now begging the coder from the Philippines to fix the issue but he should never have messed things up by fiddling with the code in the first place when he cannot tell the difference between a line of PHP code from an HTML one.

The image above was a screenshot at 10.38am and the one below is taken at 1.43pm

There will be an announcement in the locked official betking thread stating the "reason" the betking scam website was down for 24 hours, reading the pathetic excuse/lies will be very interesting. He locks the thread to stop people posting, then unlocks to make a post then immediately locks it. Very much a tactic scammer Dean Nolan has employed for a couple of years now since people began questioning his decisions and exposed him as a scammer.

As the screenshots prove along with anybody visiting the website knows it is not because of an imaginary DDoS attack that he claimed last week was carried out by a jealous competitor. The issue is code related to the cheap hosting scammer Dean Nolan pays for.

24 hours after the betking scam website went down the scammer Dean Nolan has made one post 14 hours ago in the locked betking scam thread stating "Sorry for the delay. We will be back online tomorrow." Since then he gave no explanation, no updates, nothing....

Stake or Primedice or Bustabit or Bustadice or any bonafide site would have handled all this differently. Scammer Dean Nolan handled it the only way he knows how to and that is to make himself look like a bigger fool than he did during the previous incident he messed up.

[JollyGood]

Here we are after at 6.05pm and well over 24 hours after the scam betking website went down it is still not up and running 

Scammer Dean Nolan has not even updated the now locked betking "official" thread. His last post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023833.msg49036517#msg49036517) was at midnight when he wrote: "Sorry for the delay. We will be back online tomorrow."

[BetKing Support]

back soon beegman

[JollyGood]

Scammer Dean Nolan and his "newbie" friend posting a pro-betking post but make no mention of the more than 20 BTC they scammed out of paying last week in the Christmas wager  

[chazley]

Scammer Dean Nolan and his "newbie" friend posting a pro-betking post but make no mention of the more than 20 BTC they scammed out of paying last week in the Christmas wager  

Saying "no one lost money" when you canceled a 20 BTC promo and paid out nothing is some next level Trump-like twisted logic right there. Dean takes things so personally and then lies about having "answered" questions when all he replied with was insults towards other people with no substantive details. The lack of self awareness and pragmatism is embarrassing. Dean got blessed with the opportunity of a lifetime, being in *perfect* position to take over the dice market when Dooglus abruptly closed Just-Dice and Dean was the only "known/trusted" person out of a small handful of operating investor-style dice sites, allowing him to explode overnight after struggling for years operating a poker site that no one played at (and had horrible buggy software). After winning the lottery, Dean was again blessed by having his site run at 200% EV and being able to ICO for an amount double what the actual EV was, despite traffic dropping considerably in the ~year leading up to the ICO when people started abandoning his website following many bone-headed and borderline scammy decisions (BAC affiliate comes to mind) and repeatedly trying to sell the website to private buyers (no one offered him much). I'm STILL baffled to this day that his ICO raised as much as it did. I tried vociferously to warn people on here and Reddit they were lighting money on fire. This apparently fell on deaf ears, although I hope it helped as least one person. Bottom line, Dean has operated on the border of being scammy while barely avoiding crossing it for awhile now since the ICO and his business has fallen apart. He was able to extract money from ill-informed investors and scoop up a windfall of ICO profit, but that will likely be the last money grab he will ever be able to make (hopefully people have learned their lesson, but who knows). Dean is a subpar coder and a horrible businessman who lied to ICO investors - or didn't follow through on many promises made in the ICO, if you don't want to say he's a "liar" - and the recent performance of Betking is indicative of that.

[JollyGood]

 

This is the PM scammer Dean Nolan just sent me.

The scammer Dean Nolan deletes my posts from his censored betking thread and locks it to stop others posting the truth about betking scam but he sends PMs.

This is the same scammer that did not payout more than 20 BTC to winners of the betking Christmas wager because he did not expect that many people to win and did not expect he would lose out on paying more than 20 BTC so he decided to cancel all bets and not pay the 20+ BTC that was won by betking customers.

Pathetic fool.

[BoXXoB]

I was one of the people who participated the competition and to be fair this isn't what I expected from Dean. I was actually confident he would honor his promise for once and handle the competition fairly but instead he goes ahead and cancels the whole thing. As someone who's been around for a long time and seen how Dean handles things, this is by far the closest I have gotten to being screwed by him directly.

I don't believe there was any abuse done at all. Especially because Dean refused to give me any sort of clarification (even privately).

I also believe besece is Dean. He used a similar argument with me that every previous leaderboard has forbidden multi-accounting as well as that pokerstars doesnt reveal how or who abused something to justify his action. Then he told "I don't even know the reason it was cancelled". To me leaving multi-accounting out of the question (which was also not clearly forbidden) leaves very few ways users could actually have cheated.

He also proceeded to say I'm not a legit player for only betting during competitions and investing to "further reduce my edge". It's not my fault he made the competition so ridiculously +EV. Honestly that should already have ringed my bells. He also forgot how I bet $10k on a single bet on his dice game a while back when there was no competition.

That probably doesn't even cover all the reasons why I'm still upset. I thought he would make things right this once. Too much to ask for I guess.

Rant over.

[JollyGood]

back soon beegman

The scam betking website was down for over 24 hours before coming back online. Not that it means so much to customers of betking because they are fleeing in droves what was left of them.

What was it that was being peddled at the end of 2018 before the plug was pulled because of lack of funding: "The betking website is being phased out and transitioned in to "bitsafe" with all tokens being called BTSC tokens as we want to move away from the gambling industry"

Nobody in their right mind would help funds $10 million for a scam bitsafe ICO. Scammer Dean Nolan will target newbies and gullible investors but long before that time comes hopefully my case file will be with the law enforcement agencies and scammer Dean Nolan will not be able to scam again.

[game-protect]

He also proceeded to say I'm not a legit player for only betting during competitions and investing to "further reduce my edge". It's not my fault he made the competition so ridiculously +EV. Honestly that should already have ringed my bells. He also forgot how I bet $10k on a single bet on his dice game a while back when there was no competition.

With cheese you catch mices and with greed you catch dumbasses!

It must be news that Dean Nolan is a scammer?

If it is too difficult to put "betking scam" into google, please pay the price!

[JollyGood]

I was one of the people who participated the competition and to be fair this isn't what I expected from Dean. I was actually confident he would honor his promise for once and handle the competition fairly but instead he goes ahead and cancels the whole thing. As someone who's been around for a long time and seen how Dean handles things, this is by far the closest I have gotten to being screwed by him directly.

I don't believe there was any abuse done at all. Especially because Dean refused to give me any sort of clarification (even privately).

I also believe besece is Dean. He used a similar argument with me that every previous leaderboard has forbidden multi-accounting as well as that pokerstars doesnt reveal how or who abused something to justify his action. Then he told "I don't even know the reason it was cancelled". To me leaving multi-accounting out of the question (which was also not clearly forbidden) leaves very few ways users could actually have cheated.

He also proceeded to say I'm not a legit player for only betting during competitions and investing to "further reduce my edge". It's not my fault he made the competition so ridiculously +EV. Honestly that should already have ringed my bells. He also forgot how I bet $10k on a single bet on his dice game a while back when there was no competition.

That probably doesn't even cover all the reasons why I'm still upset. I thought he would make things right this once. Too much to ask for I guess.

Rant over.

Yes you are right, the user "besece" is definitely scammer Dean Nolan. The fool gave his sock-puppet account away.

Many people have been saying for a very long time that this scammer cannot be trusted and that he should not be trusted but that scammer Dean Nolan was making a fool out so many people.

He was a shrewd operator who was having regular chats on skype with other gambling/gaming site operators so he felt protected. As they were "bigger" fish he did not want to mess them about and played the long game pretending to be a trustworthy companion and colleague as a fellow website operator. It was during that time scammer Dean Nolan started playing a game of selective scamming when he started to steal from affiliates.

Slowly as time went by scammer Dean Nolan became more and more bold by expanding his scams. Now his list of scams include:

1) the 2017 ICO investors he scammed
2) the 2013 onwards affiliates he scammed
3) the licenced software owners he scammed
4) the customers he enticed to participate in the 50 BTC Jackpot scam before cancelling without notice and scamming them
5) the customers he enticed to participate in the 2018 Christmas wager before scamming them

I am sorry to read about your valid grievances and complaints against scammer Dean Nolan and his betking website but with all the evidence mounted against this scammer it does make me wonder you even thought about playing on the betking scam website.

Maybe it was the final let-down you needed from scammer Dean Nolan before accepting that you would never use betking again or be involved in his future "bitsafe" scam exchange project. Maybe you gave him the benefit of the many doubts and now there is no need to give any more benefits of any doubt.

Here is a blatant scammer who wants to raise $10 million in an ICO for his next project called "bitsafe". He cannot be trusted with a simple Christmas wager that resulted in him having to pay over 20 BTC to legitimate winners so how can this scammer be trusted with $10 million for an exchange that has already be created by low-cost hourly paid coders from the Philippines and one that is designed to do exactly what he did with the betking ICO and its $6.5 million ICO funds.

The aim of this scammer is to get rich without doing any coding and without doing any work. He cannot code a single line so hires cheap workers. He misused the funds from the betking ICO to line his own pocket because 50% of the ICO funds did not go to the bankroll. The tokens, the set up, the payout, the profit distribution, the whole thing was misused and that scammer Dean Nolan lined his own pockets. As per the ICO promises he was supposed to pay for the creation of new games but all he did was add livetable.io plugins. All the broken promises of the ICO.

Here was a scammer that claimed he gave 1 BTC a day between 1st Dec 2017 and 25th Dec 2017 to good causes and charity but this scammer did not pay the 2 BTC licence fee to use the Crash software owned by Bustabit. Add to that the 20+ BTC he has declined to pay out to legitimate winners in the past week 2018 Christmas wager because he did not expect to pay out that much so he cancelled all bets.

Pathetic scammer Dean Nolan and his betking website. I have compiled a whole list of complaints against this scammer and am doing a little more work on research then will ask the law enforcement officers in his country to investigate. This pathetic scammer should not be allowed to get away with this even if his shambles of a betking website is registered in Costa Rica.

[LoyceMobile]

First off, investors have had 600 Bitcoin returned to them, from the initial ICO funds.
I own 85% of all tokens now. There are likely 5% held by bounty participants who will never log in to BetKing ever again, but if they do their tokens are there

Bounty participants received only 1% of all tokens, not 5%.
When I log in, my tokens are there indeed. But what good does that do me without buy backs?
I hold about $700 worth of tokens. I didn't sell them earlier as it was supposed to be a hedge against Bitcoin price drops, given their stable dollar value.

Please tell me how I can sell them at the advertised dollar value.

[JollyGood]

Scammer Dean Nolan and his "newbie" friend posting a pro-betking post but make no mention of the more than 20 BTC they scammed out of paying last week in the Christmas wager  

Saying "no one lost money" when you canceled a 20 BTC promo and paid out nothing is some next level Trump-like twisted logic right there.

Dean takes things so personally and then lies about having "answered" questions when all he replied with was insults towards other people with no substantive details. The lack of self awareness and pragmatism is embarrassing.

Dean got blessed with the opportunity of a lifetime, being in *perfect* position to take over the dice market when Dooglus abruptly closed Just-Dice and Dean was the only "known/trusted" person out of a small handful of operating investor-style dice sites, allowing him to explode overnight after struggling for years operating a poker site that no one played at (and had horrible buggy software). After winning the lottery, Dean was again blessed by having his site run at 200% EV and being able to ICO for an amount double what the actual EV was, despite traffic dropping considerably in the ~year leading up to the ICO when people started abandoning his website following many bone-headed and borderline scammy decisions (BAC affiliate comes to mind) and repeatedly trying to sell the website to private buyers (no one offered him much).

I'm STILL baffled to this day that his ICO raised as much as it did. I tried vociferously to warn people on here and Reddit they were lighting money on fire. This apparently fell on deaf ears, although I hope it helped as least one person. Bottom line, Dean has operated on the border of being scammy while barely avoiding crossing it for awhile now since the ICO and his business has fallen apart. He was able to extract money from ill-informed investors and scoop up a windfall of ICO profit, but that will likely be the last money grab he will ever be able to make (hopefully people have learned their lesson, but who knows).

Dean is a subpar coder and a horrible businessman who lied to ICO investors - or didn't follow through on many promises made in the ICO, if you don't want to say he's a "liar" - and the recent performance of Betking is indicative of that.

Well during the ICO I was also warning people here (not Reddit) but my voice along with others that warned was drowned out by many of the avatar displaying and bounty seeking users the majority of which posted nothing but propaganda that was until the time the bounty was over, then all the bounty participants that threw abuse at those of us that warned about the scam betking ICO decided to move on to other bounties and projects leaving scammer Dean Nolan to deal with opposing voices alone. It was then scammer Dean Nolan threw his toys out of his pram and spat out his dummy throwing tantrums instead of answering questions.

You might have been baffled about the ICO funds raised but I was not. The scammer was using the "7400 Bitcoin profit in 24 months" and the "6000 BTC bankroll" figures thrown around in an extremely shady manner which suggested customers would be getting shares of thousands of BTC with each payout and each buy-back worth hundreds. He obviously failed to disclose the private conversation you had with him (now displayed on Reddit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4913034.0) and he also failed to declare that he tried to sell the betking website for a long time but failed so closed the betking website in 2016 and arranged the ICO.

Scammer Dean Nolan also failed to declare the purpose of the ICO was to line his own pockets as it would have got him more than the amount he was hoping to sell the betking website for in the first place. He re-launched the identical website post-ICO with no real work done it. It was a get-rich-quick scheme. What a low-life scammer Dean Nolan is.

Unlike you I would not call scammer Dean Nolan a sub-par coder because he could not differentiate between a line of HTML and PHP. I call a scammer a scammer and a liar a liar - which is exactly what Dean Nolan is.

I did not know the history of how scammer Dean Nolan and his pocketrocketcasino or betking got "big" thanks to Just-Dice closing down, maybe that was 2013/14? Regardless, it is clear scammer Dean Nolan had an opportunity to occupy a vacated space with honesty and integrity but the scammer Dean Nolan decided to be a thief instead.

[iTradeChips]

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[kolloh]

Yeah, not paying out a promotion like this is pretty dishonest. How is anyone supposed to believe any future promotions the site offers when they are simply cancelled like this for no reason.

If the money wasn't there to run a promotion like this, why even do it in the first place? Attempt at free advertising? All it does is hurt the site's credibility.

[JollyGood]

He also proceeded to say I'm not a legit player for only betting during competitions and investing to "further reduce my edge". It's not my fault he made the competition so ridiculously +EV. Honestly that should already have ringed my bells. He also forgot how I bet $10k on a single bet on his dice game a while back when there was no competition.

With cheese you catch mices and with greed you catch dumbasses!

It must be news that Dean Nolan is a scammer?

If it is too difficult to put "betking scam" into google, please pay the price!

You might expect newbies to search online for scam betting websites but people who have been around for sometime and have used betking in the past gave scammer Dean Nolan the benefit of the doubts. They did not believe he would scam them.

To allude that anybody who got scammed by betking and Dean Nolan somehow are "greedy" or "deserve it" is not an appropriate thing to say. You do a lot of good work trying to expose scammers, please keep up the good work but please do not blame those being scammed for being duped. Thank you.

[BoXXoB]

He also proceeded to say I'm not a legit player for only betting during competitions and investing to "further reduce my edge". It's not my fault he made the competition so ridiculously +EV. Honestly that should already have ringed my bells. He also forgot how I bet $10k on a single bet on his dice game a while back when there was no competition.

With cheese you catch mices and with greed you catch dumbasses!

It must be news that Dean Nolan is a scammer?

If it is too difficult to put "betking scam" into google, please pay the price!

You might expect newbies to search online for scam betting websites but people who have been around for sometime and have used betking in the past gave scammer Dean Nolan the benefit of the doubts. They did not believe he would scam them.

To allude that anybody who got scammed by betking and Dean Nolan somehow are "greedy" or "deserve it" is not an appropriate thing to say. You do a lot of good work trying to expose scammers, please keep up the good work but please do not blame those being scammed for being duped. Thank you.

I'm perfectly aware of the reputation and I took part to see it for myself.

[RHavar]

Bounty participants received only 1% of all tokens, not 5%.
When I log in, my tokens are there indeed. But what good does that do me without buy backs?
I hold about $700 worth of tokens. I didn't sell them earlier as it was supposed to be a hedge against Bitcoin price drops, given their stable dollar value.

Please tell me how I can sell them at the advertised dollar value.

I guess you can sell them on the on-site exchange, but the best offer is currently: 0.0000008 BTC  which is only 3% (?!!) of the supposed face value. It's kind of funny how he can try pretend that investors haven't been screwed. When btc prices were higher than the "buy back price", he was more than happy to make a (personal) profit. And literally the minute things turned against him, he renegs.

I actually have chat-logs of him assuring me that he would be being doing the buy backs "even if btc goes to $1" and when I pressed him on how he could possible afford that, he told me has systems in place to sell btc immediately as the price went down, so he could make sure he has funds to pay his investors.


I strongly suspect Dean is actually insolvent. The supposed reason he wanted me to buy a large quantity of BKB him, was so that he could increase his long exposure to btc price, and that was just before the price crashed even more. When ever I asked him about using any sort of escrow structures or proving his funds, he would come up with bizarre (and sometimes contradictory) excuses.

Fast forward a few days, and he was willing to trash his reputation to screw Dan on a 2 BTC license fee (even after having raised millions of dollars for supposed costs). Tries to raise more money with a half-baked ICO. Then he goes on to screw investors with the buy-back cancelation, and now players with the prize cancellation.