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[Frozenace]

BCX is like a child with too much candy who doesn't want to share.

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[stryker]

I must admit I've got my interest in SC, even encouraged it, you see I'm here because I'm interested in crypto currencies....

But reading what you knob-heads are saying here all I feel is my confidence in my much loved BTC slipping away.... who is going to take it seriously with stupid little trolls like you?

[sd]

I must admit I've got my interest in SC, even encouraged it, you see I'm here because I'm interested in crypto currencies....

But reading what you knob-heads are saying here all I feel is my confidence in my much loved BTC slipping away.... who is going to take it seriously with stupid little trolls like you?

Who is going to take paper cash seriously when there are so many scammers and trolls trying to rob you of it?

Seriously - Who is your comment directed at? The Pro-Solidcoin people, The Anti-Solidcoin people, or both?

[stryker]

both to be honest....

good point on the paper cash comment tho, although there are no alternatives to paper cash / bank currencies in every day life.... BTC/SC/whatever is still fledgling and needs some help.... I cant see any way that all this tit-for-tat thats going on is helping anything.

[Lolcust]

This incident teaches us that pig-to-peer networks are bad and their designers should feel bad about them.

An important lesson.

[localhost]

both to be honest....

The lesson is simple: stick to Bitcoin and trust no fork until they are a least a bit adopted/established... So for the moment just trust no fork.

[Lolcust]

Oh come on, Namecoin is ossom, at the very least.

Also TBX is ossom too ^__^

[johnj]

So it seems SC2.0 is still around 5s/blk, is that correct?   Can anyone else confirm...?

[Lolcust]

three second blocks here, reporting.

[makomk]

You must be using a definition of fork that I'm familiar with. BCX claimed to be mining a fork and followed with "Some of you are on my fork I suspect.". The only way they could be on that fork and not the main chain is if there was a break in the network somewhere. Peers share their blocks so the fork will become the main chain if it has a greater sum of work. For BCX to have a fork with a greater sum of work than the main chain he'd have to someone stop that from being distributed to the other peers. In which case the "Some of you are on my fork" can't be true.

You forgot that SolidCoin 2.0 is meant to have some kind of 51% attack protection, which by its nature means that under some circumstances the client has to reject a chain with a greater sum of work in favour of a chain with a lesser sum ofr work. Depending on how exactly CoinHunter implemented it, it'd be trivial for someone with a decent amount of hashing power to persistently fork the network in a way that would never get healed automatically. Unfortunately he's refused to say publicly how it works and the source isn't available.

Maged: I have a feeling that BitcoinEXpress wasn't kidding. I've no idea if he was bluffing about the namecoin attack because it was quite thoroughly forestalled (I submitted a patch with a really paranoid set of block lockins designed to stop any attack I'd heard of or could think of, including the obvious-but-impractical checkpoint bypass), but this isn't looking good.

Edit: I should really set up a couple of isolated VMs and test this, but effort...

[Balthazar]

TrollCoin 2.0 

[johnj]

Woke up to a working network with stales out at coinotron heading toward disappearance and the blocks per second rate falling as expected.  Very nice.

How's the "attacking" going?

Depends on how long it takes for the chain to hit target.  With 5s blocks still, not looking so well.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Woke up to a working network with stales out at coinotron heading toward disappearance and the blocks per second rate falling as expected.  Very nice.

How's the "attacking" going?

"Falling as expected"?  Over a blocks every 3 second after 12,000+ blocks?  On pace to dump 1 million coins on the market within 24 hours of genesis block?

Yup exactly as expected.

[makomk]

Woke up to a working network with stales out at coinotron heading toward disappearance and the blocks per second rate falling as expected.  Very nice.

How's the "attacking" going?

Hard to tell; as far as I know there's no block explorer for Solidcoin 2.0 yet and RealSolid hasn't released the information needed to write one, so it's quite tricky to see what's going on. Probably the only person that knows is BitcoinEXpress and I don't think we're going to be hearing from him any time soon. It does look like we're going to see a really substantial increase in the total number of solidcoins in existence during the first 24-48 hours of 2.0 though; if my maths is right then a third of all SolidCoin 2.0 coins existing right now were mined on 2.0 since it was opened and it's only going to get worse.

[Lolcust]

Does your math account for the "compensation million" ?

[makomk]

Does your math account for the "compensation million" ?

Nope, because I'm still not clear on what exactly CoinHunter has done with premining; it only counts the number of coins that were mined normally on 1.0 and 2.0 combined.

[localhost]

Does your math account for the "compensation million" ?

The worst part is, this BTC forum is the first (and only) place where I've heard about premining in SC 2.0. AFAIK no visible communication has been made about this on the SC forums...... The only positive thing is that I mined in SC 2 in 6 hours on crappy hadware about half as much as I mined in SC 1 in 2 weeks on better hardware. Can't wait to try Litecoin...

[DeathAndTaxes]

Does your math account for the "compensation million" ?

The worst part is, this BTC forum is the first (and only) place where I've heard about premining in SC 2.0. AFAIK no visible communication has been made about this on the SC forums...... The only positive thing is that I mined in SC 2 in 6 hours on crappy hadware about half as much as I mined in SC 1 in 2 weeks on better hardware. Can't wait to try Litecoin...

How is that a positive?  It essentially means any wealth (store of value) holders of SC 1.0 had has been wiped out by rampant monetary expansion.  Their coins which took significant time and electrical energy are worth next to nothing.   Which in turn doesn't bode well for the value of the "easy" coins.  If you made more in 6 hours on crappy hardware how many coins do you think someone w/ 400 EC2 instances made?

[3phase]

Something seems to be wrong. Due to the lack of a blockexplorer:

Coinotron shows the last ~300 blocks found within ~35 minutes which is almost one block every 7 seconds. Difficulty however remains the same. No retargeting? Wasn't it supposed to be every 240 blocks (which is actually 120 blocks because every other block is mined with diff. 1 by the supernode)?

[localhost]

How is that a positive?  It essentially means any wealth (store of value) holders of SC 1.0 had has been wiped out by rampant monetary expansion.

I was being sarcastic. That's why I added I was waiting for Litecoin.