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Author Topic: [GUIDE] GridSeed 5-Chip USB, Blade & Black Miner Support/Tuning  (Read 308789 times)
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February 24, 2014, 06:24:33 AM
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That unit would, on paper, drive one 5 chip unit in dual mode but personally I would rather use a supply with a little bit of extra capacity, say 6 or 8 amps. These things are never exact and a 5 amp device might use 4.9 amps or it might use 5.1 amps. Running a power supply flat out is usually not a great idea anyway.
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February 24, 2014, 09:17:57 AM
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As far as wiring goes, the tails from each power lead need to be terminated on the power supply itself, as shown in the pictures you have published. If you use an octopus type of splitter you would be putting far too much current through a single small cable. How thick is the lead to your kettle? That is carrying about 12 amps. A cable carrying 25 amps needs to be quite beefy. One miner uses about 5 amps so wire each tail direct to the power unit.


Thx for the explanation ... So I can just cut the "octopus type of splitter cable" and wire each to the power supply ... that should work?

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February 24, 2014, 12:05:44 PM
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As far as wiring goes, the tails from each power lead need to be terminated on the power supply itself, as shown in the pictures you have published. If you use an octopus type of splitter you would be putting far too much current through a single small cable. How thick is the lead to your kettle? That is carrying about 12 amps. A cable carrying 25 amps needs to be quite beefy. One miner uses about 5 amps so wire each tail direct to the power unit.


Thx for the explanation ... So I can just cut the "octopus type of splitter cable" and wire each to the power supply ... that should work?
Yes that would be fine.
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February 24, 2014, 06:23:54 PM
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Yes that one looks a good option.

I dont like to tell people that the supplies the makers suggest you use are wrong, but without seeing detailed specs for the equipment I can only use my experience as an electronics engineer to give my opinion.

I have seen plenty of posts in these forums where people are saying things like some units shut down after xx time of mining. Some are even advocating regular restarts to keep things running. Those are the sort of symtoms that might well result from running a power supply on its limit. A power surge or some circuit condition that draws a little more power for an instant might cause a momentary current limit in the supply and that could easily disrupt the miner's operation.

Consequently I would suggest a 6 amp supply for each miner or run 5 miners from one 30 amp supply.
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February 24, 2014, 06:32:53 PM
Last edit: February 27, 2014, 12:04:36 PM by manfred87
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for Germany i will try this / in Deutschland werde ich folgendes kaufen

10x USB - EUR 7,98 - http://www.ebay.de/itm/310830773406

wenn ihr China-Netzteilen vertraut:
5A - EUR 8,99  - http://www.ebay.de/itm/181330150379
5A - EUR 8,49  - http://www.ebay.de/itm/271294388703
8A - EUR 15,39 - http://www.ebay.de/itm/151169966557

oder doch lieber Qualität?
5A - EUR 19,70 - http://www.reichelt.de/Netzteile-Universal/SNT-5000/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=5&ARTICLE=88560&GROUPID=4948&artnr=SNT+5000

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February 24, 2014, 09:05:49 PM
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for Germany i will try this / in Deutschland werde ich folgendes kaufen
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Ich denke die 5A reichen für das dual mining.

Falls man aber mehr als 5 usb miner hat, ist vermutlich das die Lösung.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/200987364805

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February 24, 2014, 09:21:45 PM
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on the chinese forum there is a monitoring plugin ... for wiibox controller

http://www.cybtc.com/thread-5665-1-1.html

here is a google translated version ...


ADO said that first of all introduce the next function note:
 1, applies to wiibox + machine controller +USB controller (integral), currently supports only LTC (or other faux-coin scrypt algorithm) to dig
 Wiibox official code 2, fully abandoned, needy brother please, is it possible to use
 3, machine status, connection status, process count in real time power monitoring automatic operation
 4, guarantee stability at the same time, a sharp rise in mining is

Installation instructions:

1, download the attachment wiibox_ilc-1.0

2, access wiibox IP address your router's admin page students can view DHCP assigned addresses, hostname is a question



3, use SCP or SFTP tool wiibox uploading attachments within the www directory (the default user name and password: root@123456)

4, SSH on your wiibox

5, set the time zone

Code:
 shell#> vim /etc/config/system
 System is subject as follows:
 config system
 option hostname OpenWrt
 option zonename Asia/Shanghai
 option timezone CST-8

6, the ILC installation procedures

Enter the Web Directory
Code:
 shell#> cd /www

Extract the ILC program (official procedures will not be overwritten)
 shell#> unzip wiibox_ilc-1.0.zip

Give the monitor executable permissions
Code:
 shell#> chmod a+x ilc/shell/monitor.sh

To join the ILC monitor to boot automatically run the script, and stop monitoring post for running
Code:
 shell#> vim /etc/rc.local
Quote
/Timer.sh &
this line commented out
 By adding exit 0 before:
Code:
 bash /www/ilc/shell/monitor.sh &
Save and exit



Edit miners information
Code:
 shell#> vim /www/ilc/config/define.php
According to the miners of notes to amend it as your own information, and then save and exit (close Help: Chinese in the SSH may appear as garbled, can refer to the following figure to modify)



Restart wiibox
Code:
 shell#> reboot

7, you're done!

 Wiibox ILC monitor will be started automatically after reboot, mine will run automatically, then open page http://address of your wiibox/ILC will be able to view real-time output for each process, can also be viewed in wiibox /tmp/log/wiibox.log to obtain monitoring logs.

Special Note: after using the ILC, an official admin page is still available, but no action at this time will not take effect, nor status feedback in real time, and viewed only by ILC.






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February 24, 2014, 11:16:19 PM
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I believe it is the 2.5mm internal diameter. This not as common as the 2.1mm cctv ones. You need to buy what they call as 5.5x2.5mm pigtails.

I found a 12V30A power supply and the US power cable for it to go to the wall.

I've been looking for 5.5x2.5mm pigtails but only seem to be finding a ton of 2.1mm (like you said, much more common).  

I'm trying to find a source.  I'm based in the US.

Are those octocables easier to find or something?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-DC-5-5x2-5mm-male-power-plug-cord-connector-cable-for-adapters-2pcs-/131106289737?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item1e868b3849

This looks like one but it ships out of China and will take way too long to get here. 
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February 24, 2014, 11:33:20 PM
Last edit: February 24, 2014, 11:55:44 PM by Pistachio
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Just ordered some of these, http://www.ebay.com/itm/300959220193. I will provide an update when they come in to confirm if they fit.

I planning to try one of these that is left over from my FPGA mining days http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/atx-to-dc-power-adapter.html. It looks like they are still for sale and $20 with a quiet PSU is a lot better than three loud industrial switches.
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February 24, 2014, 11:41:38 PM
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Just ordered some of these, http://www.ebay.com/itm/300959220193. I will provide an update when they come in to confirm if they fit.

Those look promising.  For the cheap price I'll give one a shot too.
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February 25, 2014, 05:13:38 AM
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I believe it is the 2.5mm internal diameter. This not as common as the 2.1mm cctv ones. You need to buy what they call as 5.5x2.5mm pigtails.

I found a 12V30A power supply and the US power cable for it to go to the wall.

I've been looking for 5.5x2.5mm pigtails but only seem to be finding a ton of 2.1mm (like you said, much more common).  

I'm trying to find a source.  I'm based in the US.

Are those octocables easier to find or something?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-DC-5-5x2-5mm-male-power-plug-cord-connector-cable-for-adapters-2pcs-/131106289737?pt=US_Surveillance_Cables_Adapters_Connectors&hash=item1e868b3849

This looks like one but it ships out of China and will take way too long to get here. 

https://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&pa=2096771&productId=2096771

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February 25, 2014, 08:58:13 AM
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ahhhh .... great .... I need ... :-)

maybe also could replace the fan with an illuminated one and the whole mining would look much more futuristic ^^ hehehe

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February 25, 2014, 09:31:10 AM
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Greetings all,

my problem is loading the basic controller driver,

I get an error when loading the cp210x driver saying "  " the specified inf files could not be copied and installed. Please check your installation "

- the usb bridge is not showing up in my computers Device manager

- I can connect to the controller's ip address with my internet browser

- I see all units plugged in,

- the message in the system log says "usb bus not found , try open the controller power"

I am not sure how to get the driver to load, any suggestions

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February 25, 2014, 09:39:09 AM
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Greetings all,

my problem is loading the basic controller driver,

I get an error when loading the driver saying "  " the specified inf files could not be copied and installed. Please check your installation "

- the usb bridge is not showing up in my computers Device manager

- I can connect to the controller's ip address with my internet browser

- I see all units plugged in,

- the message in the system log says "usb bus not found , try open the controller power"

I am not sure how to get the driver to load, any suggestions



Hmmm you trying to connect the controller to the PC? for what?

The controller is working on it's own and is using https://openwrt.org/

You might connect to the controller with SSH.

You either use your PC or the Controller to get the Miners work ... but not both.

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February 25, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
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I am using all units on the controller, when i am getting that error message




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February 25, 2014, 09:50:26 AM
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Small question, would it be possible to power one USB miner with 12V and 1A for only scrypt mining?

It can't damage anything right when trying?

How much does a UBS take in power?

If it is rated at 12V and 1A then yes you can use it.

Understand this:

Voltage has to be exactly the same. Amp has to be equal or bigger. What I mean:

TO power up a 12V 1Amp device you have to have a 12V Power Supply with at least 1 Amp. You can also have 200Amp it won't matter. Amps is "strenght" but it only pulls what it needs.. Voltage on the other hand can burn the device if you over or under voltage it...

If you have a 0.5Amp power supply to feed an 1Amp device then you will burn the power supply :-)
If you have a 15V power supply to feed a 12V device then you'll burn the device.


Get the picture ?

regards,

P.
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February 25, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
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Small question, would it be possible to power one USB miner with 12V and 1A for only scrypt mining?

It can't damage anything right when trying?

How much does a UBS take in power?

If it is rated at 12V and 1A then yes you can use it.

Understand this:

Voltage has to be exactly the same. Amp has to be equal or bigger. What I mean:

TO power up a 12V 1Amp device you have to have a 12V Power Supply with at least 1 Amp. You can also have 200Amp it won't matter. Amps is "strenght" but it only pulls what it needs.. Voltage on the other hand can burn the device if you over or under voltage it...

If you have a 0.5Amp power supply to feed an 1Amp device then you will burn the power supply :-)
If you have a 15V power supply to feed a 12V device then you'll burn the device.


Get the picture ?

regards,

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Yep, got it. I wasn't sure if scrypt is more or less then 1A ^^ but I think it is around 6 Watt ... so 12V 0.5A should be fine ^^

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February 25, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
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I am using all units on the controller, when i am getting that error message







Let's assume you could install the controllers driver correctly ...

what would you like to do ... then?

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February 25, 2014, 10:00:26 AM
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I am using all units on the controller, when i am getting that error message







Let's assume you could install the controllers driver correctly ...

what would you like to do ... then?
I would like to

use the web interface to manage the units , set the mining address, and monitor hash rate with all 10 units routing through the usb bridge ,

correct ?
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February 25, 2014, 10:12:37 AM
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I am using all units on the controller, when i am getting that error message







Let's assume you could install the controllers driver correctly ...

what would you like to do ... then?
I would like to

use the web interface to manage the units , set the mining address, and monitor hash rate with all 10 units routing through the usb bridge ,

correct ?

- I just tried using the custom cpuminer , with all units plugged directly to the pc using the usb hub, and 10 minerd.exe running  that seemed to work,


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- the driver package with the preinstaller.exe seems to install the drivers. However the controller is not detected still , and is not listed in the device manager.

- same error in the web interface  system log " usb hub not found "
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