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August 08, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
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Hi all!

I find it highly annoying that this merit system is still around.
It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.

I see alot of people selling there merit to whoever wants it, is this even legit? It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes, while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!

Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
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August 08, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
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Some of us take pleasure in earning it the old fashioned way...by making quality posts!

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August 08, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
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I understand what you feel my bro, I have some question too about this situation. Is the bitcoin and any kind of things which related to it is not really interesting anymore? Or we just have no topic and reference to be discuss in this forum? If we have, so what it is?
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August 08, 2018, 04:12:08 PM
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I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit?

Unfortunately things like this will happen whenever you have a merit system. It's similar to what happens on Reddit with upvotes.

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August 08, 2018, 04:15:19 PM
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If you see somebody selling merit: make a post in the reputation section and/or report the seller. Both seller and buyer will probably receive -ve from DT and get their accounts ruined (including whatever they invested in buying merit).

Selling merit is prohibited, however this doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, there are a limited number of mods and and admins... They can't monitor each and every thread, let alone monitor off-forum sales.  That's why it's important we report these cheaters

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August 08, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
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Merit system should be disabled, and bitcointalk should come to  be unbaised fair platform. I am totally against merit sysytem, i hope it will change some day.

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August 08, 2018, 04:30:03 PM
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Hi all!

I find it highly annoying that this merrit system is still around.
It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.

I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit? It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes, while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!

Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
Greetings!  Undecided

You realized the shortcomings of merit system so late ? Or is this the frustration of not getting any merit till now ? 
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August 08, 2018, 04:32:49 PM
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Hi all!

I find it highly annoying that this merrit system is still around.
It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.

I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit? It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes, while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!

Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
Greetings!  Undecided

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August 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
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I find it highly annoying when people complain about merit, and they haven't bothered to spell check the word. It shows they can't have read the stickies. It is also highly annoying when people quote the original post in full and then complain because they don't get any merits.

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August 08, 2018, 04:38:49 PM
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You realized the shortcomings of merit system so late ? Or is this the frustration of not getting any merit till now ? 

It is the frustation indeed. Merits was introduced on January if I'm not wrong, yet this guy does not have a single merit since then, or since his account made. Can you imagine the frustation? haha.

Merit selling is an illegal action and both buyer or seller can be granted a red trust from DT Members, so you should not buying that even though you have the frustation OP. I suggest you look into yourself and start change and improve. You can make it like any others. You can start by making a reputation report of merit seller by making a thread, maybe you can make some merits form that, since there are members who got merit by that way. It is counted as contributing to the forum.
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August 08, 2018, 04:57:00 PM
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I find it highly annoying that this merrit system is still around.
It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.

There were some times, I was against the merit system like you are right now. But now I see things differently: merit is the measure of how other people pay respect to you. Don't be over obsessed with quality, just join topics, give your opinion with and other will merit you if they find your post interesting, useful or just as simple as you're putting effort to it.

About merit selling, those sellers and buyers will be punished once they're are spotted. And high ranked members posting trash, well like you said, life is unfair and you've living with that, right?
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August 08, 2018, 04:59:15 PM
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but i doesnt seems to work this way.
No, to you it just seems like you're not earning merits--and that's true, and the reason for that is because you don't know how to write in English.  That's evident from the above quote.  Why can't you post in whatever the most appropriate local board would be for your language skill?  There are merit sources in at least some of those sections, and there should be regular members with merits to give, too. 

I can tell you that if you continue to write crap like the above, you're never going to earn merits.  If your post stands out for its sheer awfulness, that's not a good thing.

Those of you who want to go back to the way things were before the merit system frustrate me to no end.  Bitcointalk was full of account farmers who could rank up 100 or more accounts with activity alone.  To some extent, we still have people who are trying to do that, but it's going to be a losing fight for them.  The low-ranked members who posted here have only been on the forum for a few months and probably didn't understand how bad it had gotten.  You have to be patient.  Ranking up is much harder than it used to be, but you only have spammers to blame for that.

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August 08, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
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I've made a thread once on reputation thread after I found multiple accounts giving merits to the same accounts. The accounts that I reported didn't get red tagged though because when you make a report you have to link those accounts to get them tagged by a DT member which requires a lot of digging since the bctalkaccountpricer isn't up anymore.

On the positive side these abusers will eventually ran out of merits until they can't rank up anymore.

Merit system should be disabled, and bitcointalk should come to  be unbaised fair platform. I am totally against merit sysytem, i hope it will change some day.
It won't get disabled because this will encourage both account farming and account sale which is frowned upon by most people here in the forum.


Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
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August 08, 2018, 05:11:39 PM
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If you see somebody selling merit: make a post in the reputation section and/or report the seller. Both seller and buyer will probably receive -ve from DT and get their accounts ruined (including whatever they invested in buying merit).

Selling merit is prohibited, however this doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, there are a limited number of mods and and admins... They can't monitor each and every thread, let alone monitor off-forum sales.  That's why it's important we report these cheaters

I think he’s just created this butthurt thread because he’s frustrated that he doesn’t get Merit himself. Slinging wild accusations around is a bit weird without any actual evidence.

Edit - OP, don’t expect to receive any Merit if you can’t even spell the word Merit.

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August 08, 2018, 05:28:37 PM
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If you see somebody selling merit: make a post in the reputation section and/or report the seller. Both seller and buyer will probably receive -ve from DT and get their accounts ruined (including whatever they invested in buying merit).

Selling merit is prohibited, however this doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, there are a limited number of mods and and admins... They can't monitor each and every thread, let alone monitor off-forum sales.  That's why it's important we report these cheaters

I think he’s just created this butthurt thread because he’s frustrated that he doesn’t get Merit himself. Slinging wild accusations around is a bit weird without any actual evidence.

Edit - OP, don’t expect to receive any Merit if you can’t even spell the word Merit.

That's easy for a legendary member to say.. In reality, it's really difficult for lower ranks to get merit.
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August 08, 2018, 06:03:53 PM
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Do you know what's an even bigger joke? The fact that literally thousands of people are coming here to a forum about something they have little to no knowledge or interest in other than they heard you can earn easy money here. It's like signing up to a Lamborghini forum when you can't drive and don't even like cars. Why would anyone do that? Well, they sign up here to get paid of course and this is the only reason you're bothered about merit. Merit doesn't stop you from browsing or even posting here, but obviously you want to maximise profits as fast as possible and this is the entire issue in the first place because people sign up with dozens of accounts each just to farm accounts by spamming and bleed bounties for all they're worth. This is why merit was introduced and users are now rewarded for their quality contributions instead of rewarding the spam they could be bothered to make.

I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit?

Usually it isn't. I reckon most people who try sell merit are just scammers trying to fleece the naive and desperate, though of course there will be genuine sales by people looking to fill a gap in the market but the community usually leaves them appropriate feedback. There's nothing stopping you from doing this as well if you disagree with it.

It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes, while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!

1) Merit is limited so they will run out of it very quickly. 2) People who get caught meriting their alts or "friends" usually get negative feedback. If you want to run the risk of having your accounts ruined all for the sake of a few merit points then you're playing with fire and dicing with death. 3). Make quality posts and you may one day receive enough merit to become a Member. You only need ten for that.

Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
Greetings!  Undecided

You can't complain about greed when you only want a higher level account so you can in fact be like them and earn more. People who merely have a Hero account aren't the elite 1%. They're usually merely just people who've been here a lot longer and maybe you could say they earned their right for their rank.

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Edit: I just went through your posts. They're not bad, but you're probably not going to get merit in mega threads where people are just saying the same thing over and over. I gave you a merit to help you on your way. Keep putting effort into your posts and you'll likely get some more but this shouldn't be expected.

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August 08, 2018, 07:13:10 PM
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I find it highly annoying that this merrit system is still around.
I think the real annoying thing was the delay of introduction of Merit system to the forum. Introduction of Merits system is the best thing happened to this kind of  forum. Yes Merit system still around and it will around too and it should.

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It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.
How are you telling that doesn't work this way? Is it from your own experience or by looking at the other spammers comments whose actually blames for the Merit system since it's beginning.

So why don't you take extra effort , read more and make some good post rather blaming the system. Sometimes if we can't change the system( actually it shouldn't in this case), then change yourselves. Because the person who doesn't change according to the surrounding will not last longer in the system. Just put some effort and Merits will be there. Don't try too hard and take it easy. Because there are lot of things we can learn being activate the reading mode.

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I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit? It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes, while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!
Merit abuse/selling is not moderated by the admins. But if you get caught you and you only have to faced the consequences. So better to away from such things. Merits are not introduced for members to get ranked up and only to do Bounties and get extra stakes or whatever ICO tokens. It's like appreciation from others for doing the right things and being helpful to the other members. There are so many things around the forum besides Bounties.

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Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
If you see spammy posts wether it's from higher rank, lower rank whatever just report it by pressing the "report to moderator" button. I think most of the cases it's not about Members and above ranks, but Juniors and newbies ( not the all of them but most) who posting crappy spammy posts.
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It's almost impossible to get merit on Locals forums and here if you're not a fluent english speaker.
So lot of non native english speaker will be blocked at "Jr. Member" for ever...
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August 09, 2018, 01:30:13 AM
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I hate when people always complain about the merit system. Those kind of people are just getting pissed off because they're just a Jr. Members and can't rank up. Did you know that the merit system is just for you guys?

I know some profiles who are Jr. Members and managed to gain merits. They didn't complain any single statements about it, they're chilling around while having good contents. If you have enough knowledge about crypto and the system itself, you'll have it.

At first, I lose hope because i thought i'll be stuck in the Full Member forever but after contributing to our local board I gain my 116th merits. I help many people on my contents because it consists many information that can change individuals. Some of it are spoonfeeding and it's really a complete content but it's sad for me that some new members didn't bother to look the contents that will improve them and they just continue to shitpost on some common discussions.

There's a conclusion to every post like this, you're just ranting and feel anger about the merit system because yourself can't even get merits. I as contributor of the local board and others give merits if you're a worthy one. If you feel that you're just shitposting and against in the merit system, then don't rant about it.

Here's a basic logic, if you're here for knowledge, rank is just an optional unless you have to rank up your profile for bounties. Wink

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