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August 09, 2018, 01:33:28 AM
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It's almost impossible to get merit on Locals forums and here if you're not a fluent english speaker.
So lot of non native english speaker will be blocked at "Jr. Member" for ever...
I don't have any local board and English is not my native language too. But I was not blocked to junior member in fact now I'm a member rank. Gaining Merit is hard sometimes but it is not impossible at all. Since bitcointalk is an international forum, English will be used as a main language in many boards. So better to Learn English language by making extra effort. There are so many threads regarding English language and one I preferred is Fit to talk by "Jet cash"
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August 09, 2018, 03:59:13 AM
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Problem isn't on merit system. Problem is on our mind. First change your mind. I don't know who wrote a quote, probably Adlof Hitler,
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"If you don’t like a rule, just follow it , reach on the top and change the rule.”  .

Something similar I want to say if system is annoying you just follow the system and try to gain top position. Than you will never complain.

On the other hand corruption is every where, even your government. So nothing new on forum also. If you find some one abusing merit system make a thread on Reputation board. DT will tag them. Merit system not moderated by forum.
Just avoid make complain and work hard to earn merit.

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August 09, 2018, 05:24:08 AM
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Hi all!

I find it highly annoying that this merrit system is still around.
It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.

I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit? It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes, while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!

Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
Greetings!  Undecided
The concept was good. It is very well constructed as well as its content. Overall merit system is good. Its just that we find it hard to get merits because of our lack of knowledge.


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Its just that we find it hard to get merits because of our lack of knowledge.
No, that's not it at all.  The main reason why people have a hard time earning merit is because they're lazy and sloppy, not because they lack knowledge.  My technical knowledge of bitcoin is abysmal, but I can still give opinions about speculation, problems on the forum, and some other stuff, and I'm not illiterate.  I'm not trying to write in Chinese or any other language that I don't know.  

That's the reason people aren't earning merits.  They think a long, bloated shitpost in broken English, and one that keeps repeating the same phrases over and over is a quality post.  They often confuse quantity with quality, and that's not the case.  So you don't necessarily need a whole lot of knowledge to be able to write something worthwhile on bitcointalk.  You DO have to be coherent, organized, and (hopefully) logical.  Don't delude yourself about the reasons you're not getting your posts merited.  

Would you read a book that was written like all these shitposts are?  Hell no, you'd throw that wasted tree right in the shredder.  We all want to read things that express thoughts clearly and don't waste our time because of sloppiness.  Pretty much all of the top-merited members here can write posts that are concise, coherent, and usually interesting.  Anyone who thinks they're getting shafted in the merit department ought to look at the posts written by those members and they should try to emulate them.

Why don't you report the users who are selling merits, often times those users who sell accounts are tagged already.
I don't know about you, but I don't see blatant merit-selling a lot on the forum.  I've heard that there are Telegram groups in which they do, but I'm pretty sure everybody realizes that they'd get tagged instantly if they tried that on bitcointalk.  If you can link me to any merit selling threads, I'd be happy to take a look.  It's possible I've missed some.

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August 09, 2018, 05:36:17 AM
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Why don't you report the users who are selling merits, often times those users who sell accounts are tagged already. If they are selling it somewhere else besides the market section in the forum, the still can be tracked as long as the transactions is public. Only those who knows how they can be tracked are the ones who can get away but they may be slip one day. If there are users buying and selling, that means the merit system had worked to them.
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August 09, 2018, 05:53:35 AM
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In my personal opinion, it is to early to make a conclusion if the Merit System is really working or not.  I think by January 2019 (1 year from the implementation of the Merit System), we can have initial judgment on its effectivity and implement some changes to further improve the current system.

While waiting, we can just observe and take note of our observations and make a recommendation upon the end of the honeymoon period of the Merit System.

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August 09, 2018, 05:55:58 AM
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i hope it will change some day.
I think that's not going to happen. If they disable the merit system, all greedy people's outside this forum are going to create a new account. And create/spam a shitpost to rank up thier ranks.

Because they think the higher rank,the higher income.
I hope you see what will happen if they disable the merit system.

Now, if it's hard for you to rank up faster because of this merits, maybe its not to late for you to learn more.
I suggest to study and practice your strategy on how to get merits in a fair way.


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August 09, 2018, 06:24:36 AM
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If you see somebody selling merit: make a post in the reputation section and/or report the seller. Both seller and buyer will probably receive -ve from DT and get their accounts ruined (including whatever they invested in buying merit).

Selling merit is prohibited, however this doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, there are a limited number of mods and and admins... They can't monitor each and every thread, let alone monitor off-forum sales.  That's why it's important we report these cheaters

Selling and buying of merit is prohibited and the act can be reduced to certain extent, but what about people that make multiple accounts? They earn merit in one and send it to their other accounts. Its like a chain as merit receiver also receives half of the number as Smerits. There is no system to check these type of frauds. People will continue to make multiple accounts unless phone numbers are linked to people bitcointalk account and 2 factor authentication is made mandatory. Another alternative to stop this is by making KYC mandatory, but people would hesitate to reveal their private information to a forum which is not operated by any single person or authority.

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August 09, 2018, 06:35:29 AM
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I find it highly annoying that this merrit system is still around.
It is supose to be stimulating people to make good quality posts or topics, but i doesnt seems to work this way.

If you find it annoying then maybe you have a problem. Are you blind? This system trying to reduce shitposter, it takes time.


I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit? It means people with multiple accounts can dominate bitcointalk, earn the most bounty rewards( multiple with more accounts) and can give merrit out to themselves and can get alot of bounty stakes
Let me see the proof before giving that statement. We have the rights also to report them so stop complaining. As you can see, our community doing their best to prevent this thing to happen.

while other who do there best arent even able to join because they cant reach member status!
I disagree with that. I considered myself doing best and I've reached member right? Maybe your best or their best weren't good enough.

Even more annoying is the fact that members and above( not all of you ) just post crappy posts all over the place, and keep spamming away with no consequences. Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
That's the reason why merit system exist for. Don't think that the merit system was unfair because we're all belong to this system and not only you.

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August 09, 2018, 06:49:55 AM
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Merit is becoming something you can buy just like a crypto currency...  Embarrassed

May be in future,you will get the ICO on merits... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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August 09, 2018, 07:12:10 AM
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I see alot of people selling there merrit to whoever wants it, is this even legit?
How many is "a lot of people" because its very seldom that I see someone posting merits for sale. It maybe offered from social media like Facebook but one way or the other those merit sellers will be caught and account will be banned. There are merit abuser hunters here and those who tries to do so will be caught eventually.

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August 09, 2018, 09:03:54 AM
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People will continue to make multiple accounts unless phone numbers are linked to people bitcointalk account and 2 factor authentication is made mandatory. Another alternative to stop this is by making KYC mandatory, but people would hesitate to reveal their private information to a forum which is not operated by any single person or authority.
This forum is based on crypto and crypto's ideal is anonymity to a certain extent, again bitcoin itself is not completely anonymous. However the forum administration believes in these ideals which is why there has never been any KYC on this site or any phone number linking. Doing so only means that you are giving away your personal info to some third party. Even if you do trust them, still you personal info is can get into wrong hands in case of any data leakage.

Merit is becoming something you can buy just like a crypto currency...  Embarrassed
Stop being a crybaby and educate your 1nanometer diametric brain into some fruitful work of posting quality content on this forum.

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August 09, 2018, 09:42:07 AM
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merit ruins life!

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August 09, 2018, 10:19:21 AM
Merited by tyz (2), DdmrDdmr (2), LoyceV (1), vphasitha01 (1)
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merit ruins life!

Fixed that for you.

That is true, merit ruined my life too.

I talk in my sleep, and and my wife asked me who is that Merrit I am talking to whole night, I didn't know what to say, she asked me am I cheating her with Merrit and finally I had to tell her about my relationship with Merrit.

She took kids, all my money and credit cards and left me.  Sad Sad

I blame Theremos for ruining my life  Angry

Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
I told her OK, take kids and you can go, but please return me my credit cards but she says noo  Roll Eyes , now you will become poor because of Merrit.

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August 09, 2018, 05:03:47 PM
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The latter reply posts are really funny.  Grin Grin Grin

Maybe i should also make a thread here in meta section.
That goes like this.

if anybody would be interested to join me in an adventure by searching for the lost "dragonballs", and if we completely found all of it, i/we, would gladly wish to bring back time and erase merit on bitcointalk.   lol
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August 09, 2018, 06:33:52 PM
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OP your existence as well is also a Joke.
Having any problem to the High Ranks?
Simply, Report Them and Join the SPAMBUSTER CLUB.
In that matter you can help this forum and maybe some people out there might give you the thing that you hate for the job well done of yours.




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August 09, 2018, 06:47:12 PM
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I find it highly annoying that this merit system is still around.

And I find it utterly surprising that people like you are still around.  Grin You should have left the forum right after the day the system (Merit system) was introduced, because such posts or complains won't make it easier for you guys, and it won't bring back the days when you would earn bucks for posting shit in almost every corner of this forum without anyone questioning you. No one is questioning you today as well, but the system itself is a slap on your face, and the reaction for that is quite clear to everyone right now.  Grin
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August 09, 2018, 08:36:11 PM
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merit ruins life!

Fixed that for you.

That is true, merit ruined my life too.

I talk in my sleep, and and my wife asked me who is that Merrit I am talking to whole night, I didn't know what to say, she asked me am I cheating her with Merrit and finally I had to tell her about my relationship with Merrit.

She took kids, all my money and credit cards and left me.  Sad Sad

I blame Theremos for ruining my life  Angry

Its just sick, like in the real world, the rich get richer, its insane do something about it.
I told her OK, take kids and you can go, but please return me my credit cards but she says noo  Roll Eyes , now you will become poor because of Merrit.
I knew it.. You were the one who had sex for merit. We want details. Tell us everything.
She took kids, all my money and credit cards and left me.  Sad Sad
At least merit was there for you when no one was, not even your own bitcoins.  Undecided

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August 10, 2018, 12:06:56 AM
Last edit: August 10, 2018, 12:20:22 AM by suchmoon
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Merit system should be disabled, and bitcointalk should come to  be unbaised fair platform. I am totally against merit sysytem, i hope it will change some day.

No, I think bitcointalk should be extremely biased against spammers and other filth. Whether merit is the right tool - time will tell. So far it looks like users complaining about it tend to be less than high-quality posters to put it mildly, so it seems to be a step in the right direction.

It's almost impossible to get merit on Locals forums and here if you're not a fluent english speaker.
So lot of non native english speaker will be blocked at "Jr. Member" for ever...

Not true. There are plenty of examples even in this thread how users with less-than-perfect English are doing just fine. Clear idea, short sentences, simple words, and a spellchecker goes a long way. It quite obvious which users put effort into their posts, no matter what language they're using, and which users just copy-paste from Google.

For the record, English is my third language so I have a pretty good idea how this works.

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