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[trigeek]

I think the dev(s) were at fault as well, however, what did cryptorush expect?  They're slamming as many coins onto their exchange as possible a day or two after launch.  It is obvious they don't test anything (that's the way it is with 99% of the exchanges by the way) and people are wondering why they are losing coins?  The github stuff should not have been removed, but did any of the other exchanges have these issues?  How come Craptsy didn't seem to have issue?  Maybe the process should have been to halt trading while you installed a severe update (or whatever it was called) and test it rather than letting it run for 24-hours and then saying "hurr durr we better halt everyone".  I think they trust these developers a little too much to give them flawless code, it's not going to happen for these smaller coins with one or two developers.  Mistakes were made on both sides.  Only move your money to an exchange when you are actually going to trade.  Don't keep it there any longer!

Cryptorush has only been around since January 13th of this year so again what did you expect?  BTW, I have 2 million ZEIT and still mining so I'm long on the coin just not this exchange.

To get the bugged code, you have to have updated your wallet within the (roughly) 24 hour time span that the code was on github.  Other exchanges have to be running on the older code.  I'm still running on the first release of the wallet for our pool because it's working fine for us right now.

[gimmezeit]

people keep voting on mintpal and vote on cryptsy if you have not already

https://www.mintpal.com/voting


if any needs something to trade in order to vote i can send some DOGE

May i kindly request a sip of doge, for being able to vote again? Thanks in advance.  

DLp2iT7MAe6hXVEDsUbyBJZpqWodeHyjJN

100 doge received! So much quick. Many happy me and much vote now.

[14aristokrat]

Got reply from crytorush about my zero balance:

"I do appologize that you have 0 balance on your account but in this situation we have nothing that can be done any longer. We have exausted all of our own cash refunding users due to the zeitcoin bug. ZeitCoin Developers are to blame in this situation. Please refer to our official notice on our home page."

Lost: 1,910,195.65667000 ZEIT

Can someone explain me why I should blame ZeitCoins Developers instead of Cryptorush?

If I put dollars on bank account, then  bank robbed (burned, fly away to the moon) - I should blame not bank but Federal Reserve System because they are "Devs of the Dollars" - right?

How cryptorush allowed to withdraw amounts more than possible? There is not any simple database that can do 2+2 math?

That's, because of some greedy miners. I bought 1 BTC worth zeit's at 2 satoshi, but maybe 1-2 hours after that my balance was 99.8 million zeits, instead 49.89 or something. I did write ticket to cryptorush and they fixed it, but I could just sell them for BTC/LTC or DOGE and then withdraw.

I understand you are also lucky to get double output with cryptorush
And I happened to get two double output was 1.1 million and 2 days turned into 5.2 million Zeitcoin doubled to 2.6 million Zeitcoin

[Jeezy911]

2 Guys stand in line at a bank, Bob and John. Bob withdraws 100 dollars and the bank gives him 200 accidentally.  John tries to withdraw 100 dollars, bank says we gave it to bob by mistake. John says "how did this happen"? Bank replies "It's the dollars fault"  THE END

[Rikkie7]

Thanks for the free coins cryptorush!  

I'm probably very lucky because I got 2 times free Zeitcoin.

The first time I threw their coins for tsryptorush where that 1.1 million and 2.6 million received in return Zeitcoin

The second time was the next day decided to sell a couple of thousand Zeitcoin took clicked sell and look Exchange glitch I stepped back a couple of minutes to refresh the page and was shocked at the bill again 2.6 million Zeitcoin

I do not even know what to say what that straight Mysticism

Well the fact that they tried to blame the devs is what gets me. If someone besides the exchange had legit proof that I somehow ended up with their coins that were never returned I would throw them a bone, but the idea that I should give the coins back to cryptorush makes me laugh.

Alright I was going to keep my mouth shut and let the zeitcoin devs say it themselves, but this has gone on long enough.  The fact that they wiped all proof from github really rubs me the wrong way. It WAS their fault, and I'm the one who told cryptorush about the problem.  Just ask DeviantTwo. I already explained it once in the thread here, but I'll explain it here one last time for good.  A few days before cryptorush shut down zeitcoin, there was a commit made to the github repository.  You can't see it now, because as he said- the zeitcoin devs went through and erased all proof of their fuck-up.  The repository only shows one commit for Zeitcoin now, but the title should tell you something: Commit - TransactionFee fixed

What they did a few days ago was to lower the limits on transaction fees for sending transactions.  Now this sounds like a good thing, and it is- but ONLY if everyone switches to this new fee structure at once.  Since this change was not officially annouced, anyone who downloaded this modified code was sending out transactions with fees that were so low that no one running the old code would accept them.  This is why cryptorush could receive deposits, but none of their withdrawals were going out.  This also means it's a MASSIVE clusterfuck to unwind the problem.  It means re-submitting all those transactions, while making sure none of them actually committed (which it seems was the case), meaning some people got double paid.

Now you might feel like you're within your rights to keep the coins you got double paid, and sure I guess you are... that's the risk of cryptocurrencies.  But if you want to keep exchanges like cryptorush in existence, then don't punish them when the devs for a coin are the ones who caused the issue to begin with.

If the developers didn't announce the change, it's for sure also a fault of cryptorush. Always wait until it is officially announced. Also an exchange should have some extra controlling measures, to be sure nothing is going wrong. So probably the process of the developers was not good(it's software people, this happens). But only blame the developers, that's easy. To my opinion cryptorush showed that it isn't good enough for being a decent exchange.

[VanHammer]

2 Guys stand in line at a bank, Bob and John. Bob withdraws 100 dollars and the bank gives him 200 accidentally.  John tries to withdraw 100 dollars, bank says we gave it to bob by mistake. John says "how did this happen"? Bank replies "It's the dollars fault"  THE END

Yeah. Exactly. And cryptorush.in who also responsible for this, don't want to do anything. Just say "it's not us, it's devs. we refunded to some 'mystical' people who was affected"
If I had exchange and had this problem - minimum what i could did is to set transaction fee to 0 for affected account and try to return lost amount in some period of time to save reputation. They do nothing. "Great" exchange!

[MTJ151]

The way I see it there MAY have been a bug with the wallet/coin but it's the way cryptorush tried to resolve the issue (or a bug in THEIR system) that caused people to get free coins/lose coins. It seems this way to me because coinex didn't have the same problems.

Just speculation though... neither side has put any evidence across yet...

[Anonymousg64]

exchanges make money off altcoins, its also their job to maintain software integrity, revision and test case teams is something all exchanges should have

im currently using https://coinader.com/

they seem to have the most ZEIT volume atm

coinex stole some of my btc and doge so im not using them ever again, the signs point to potential internal problems, dont want to get goxed

[rhadamanthes]

Blaming the dev .... How cryptorush explain the fact that they have made an update without making any backup file ??

[yodoberman]

I contacted them only 15 minutes after i couldnt withdraw zeit. Only a couple hours later they suspended. Point made

[fengzi52188888]

I have 18 million zeitcoin. When I saw the announcement immediately after I went to cash my zeit, but I found that only 5.06 million coins account, and the rest of the coins missing. I hope you can get back to my official coins and timely given me,
Why do so many of my friends do not have the coins disappear, only my disappear? It's not fair, I lose up to 13 million coins! I need to get it back, even if it is part of the line!

[bumblebee33]

Anybody having any luck solo mining?

[bumblebee33]

I have 18 million zeitcoin. When I saw the announcement immediately after I went to cash my zeit, but I found that only 5.06 million coins account, and the rest of the coins missing. I hope you can get back to my official coins and timely given me,
Why do so many of my friends do not have the coins disappear, only my disappear? It's not fair, I lose up to 13 million coins! I need to get it back, even if it is part of the line!

Did you refresh the balance? Sometimes this does the trick showing all your coins.

[bumblebee33]

im currently using https://coinader.com/

they seem to have the most ZEIT volume atm

The sell orders don't add up to 0.2 BTC all together - and no buy orders....

Just stating a fact. Where did you see this great volume?

[fengzi52188888]

I have 18 million zeitcoin. When I saw the announcement immediately after I went to cash my zeit, but I found that only 5.06 million coins account, and the rest of the coins missing. I hope you can get back to my official coins and timely given me,
Why do so many of my friends do not have the coins disappear, only my disappear? It's not fair, I lose up to 13 million coins! I need to get it back, even if it is part of the line!

Did you refresh the balance? Sometimes this does the trick showing all your coins.

I've tried！
This is their reply：Hello, and thank you for contacting Crypto Rush. ZeitCoin has been removed from our site due to the constant glitches with there client. Millions of coins have been lost. Millions where restored. If you are still missing any currencies I do apologize but they are no longer. There is no longer any way for us to refund any users in this situation. All funds have been exausted. Sorry for any inconvenience and I hope that this situation does not cause you to leave our exchange. If you wish to read any further on this situation please read: https://cryptorush.in/documents/ZeitcoinPublicStatement-March6th2014.pdf

[14aristokrat]

I have 18 million zeitcoin. When I saw the announcement immediately after I went to cash my zeit, but I found that only 5.06 million coins account, and the rest of the coins missing. I hope you can get back to my official coins and timely given me,
Why do so many of my friends do not have the coins disappear, only my disappear? It's not fair, I lose up to 13 million coins! I need to get it back, even if it is part of the line!

Russian Roulette is she someone got free on Zeitcoin cryptorush someone lost Zeitcoin but cryptorush uniquely fucked up and the developers will let awake because the problems to be solved quickly or you may accidentally kill the credibility of the coin forever

[Anonymousg64]

im currently using https://coinader.com/

they seem to have the most ZEIT volume atm

The sell orders don't add up to 0.2 BTC all together - and no buy orders....

Just stating a fact. Where did you see this great volume?

And for example from 8.15 to 9.15 they traded roughly 80,000 ZEIT ... Just saying
In the last hour CoinEx traded roughly 700,000 ZEIT ... Just saying again...

not considering coinex, they are likely running a fractional exchange based on my experiences

[bumblebee33]

im currently using https://coinader.com/

they seem to have the most ZEIT volume atm

The sell orders don't add up to 0.2 BTC all together - and no buy orders....

Just stating a fact. Where did you see this great volume?

And for example from 8.15 to 9.15 they traded roughly 80,000 ZEIT ... Just saying
In the last hour CoinEx traded roughly 700,000 ZEIT ... Just saying again...

not considering coinex, they are likely running a fractional exchange based on my experiences

Just to clarify, I also don't think Coinex is the answer. There is also never much volume. But slightly more than on Coinader. We definitely need a bigger exchange.

[fengzi52188888]

I have 18 million zeitcoin. When I saw the announcement immediately after I went to cash my zeit, but I found that only 5.06 million coins account, and the rest of the coins missing. I hope you can get back to my official coins and timely given me,
Why do so many of my friends do not have the coins disappear, only my disappear? It's not fair, I lose up to 13 million coins! I need to get it back, even if it is part of the line!

Russian Roulette is she someone got free on Zeitcoin cryptorush someone lost Zeitcoin but cryptorush uniquely fucked up and the developers will let awake because the problems to be solved quickly or you may accidentally kill the credibility of the coin forever

I hope someone can stand out as being responsible for this!

[MTJ151]

not considering coinex, they are likely running a fractional exchange based on my experiences

a fractional exchange?