Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them)

[alani123]

Theymos,

would you consider supplying a list of user IDs of banned users so far? I know you had answered a related question in prior:

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• A publicly displayed 'banned' rank under a person's username for permabanned accounts (people are wasting both theirs and staffs time reporting already banned users and bots).
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No. Or not yet. Or the idea would need to be significantly modified.

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[Steamtyme]

Not sure if this is a thread destined for obscurity but this is the best place for this.

I'd like to see some locked threads created and maintained by theymos regarding for a couple of different topics. My best example at the moment is for merit.

The [ANN] thread was great for the announcement and rollout as well as for community involvement. What would have been beneficial and still could be is a maintained thread that spells out changes or facts maintained by theymos. This threads sole purpose would be to serve as a collection of facts and changes for all members to see and access easily.

Examples -  The jr. member restriction - the updated number of merit sources - The statement about not tagging suspected merit abusers.

As it is now members either need to search for and find the statements being made to answer questions or refresh their memory. This would also be beneficial as the chance of a quote being edited is removed.


In addition to this Rules posted on all boards by theymos, this would make sense coming from the top.

This would be a revised version of the rules. Considering a large portion of the unofficial rules are obtained from theymos quotes; why not go right to the source. The below quote was my inspiration for this ( I seem to recall it originally being saying "I am the Law"... maybe my mind filled that in on it's own.

I think this decision does not fit the rule of law.

[Veleor]

It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).

If theymos is against of showing which accounts are banned, then maybe he make an exception for members that have 300 good reports at least? This will reduce an extra work for active reporters and moderators.

[RivAngE]

It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).

If theymos is against of showing which accounts are banned, then maybe he make an exception for members that have 300 good reports at least? This will reduce an extra work for active reporters and moderators.

Is there any point in seeing who is banned? If someone has a problem with user "A" and he has reported user "A", just bookmarking his account URL or checking it from your PMs should be enough for you. Unless you have reported tens of users and you want to be updated on all of them! x)

But a system like that would either require a lot of manual work from the site's team in order to publish the account names (most of which would probably be bots) or it'd require resources to be spent on an automated system. In either case, I find it unnecessary.

[hilariousetc]

It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).

If theymos is against of showing which accounts are banned, then maybe he make an exception for members that have 300 good reports at least? This will reduce an extra work for active reporters and moderators.

Is there any point in seeing who is banned? If someone has a problem with user "A" and he has reported user "A", just bookmarking his account URL or checking it from your PMs should be enough for you. Unless you have reported tens of users and you want to be updated on all of them! x)

Maybe read the post you actually quoted as to why it's a good idea. What is the point of both users and staff wasting time on reports for users that have already been permabanned? There's enough work to be done here already without having to deal with stuff that has already been dealt with. It takes a colossal amount of time and effort for people to report copy and pasters and provide all the evidence and then it wastes staff time having to go though them all needlessly. If the user was shown as permabanned then they can just ignore it. Once a user is banned here their account is done for so I don't think it's a big deal showing that. Many other forums show even temp banned users. It would be helpful in other ways too. You could be doing business with someone and they could just disappear without warning. If they've been banned then at least you'll know why they've mysteriously gone AWOL or are not responding to your messages.

But a system like that would either require a lot of manual work from the site's team in order to publish the account names (most of which would probably be bots) or it'd require resources to be spent on an automated system. In either case, I find it unnecessary.

It wouldn't. Staff can already see who has been banned as they have a mark on their profile so it will take little effort to make that publicly known.

It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).

If theymos is against of showing which accounts are banned, then maybe he make an exception for members that have 300 good reports at least? This will reduce an extra work for active reporters and moderators.

Possibly, but I suppose it depends on what theymos' reasons are for not displaying that info.

[coinlocket$]

Is there any point in seeing who is banned?

Can be useful, like if a bounty manager is banned temporarily (it seems happens often) it could save time for hundreds of people.

[Veleor]

Possibly, but I suppose it depends on what theymos' reasons are for not displaying that info.

I think it can related to the philosophy of Bitcoin, maybe theymos doesn't want that forum of the free decentralized currency looks like a tightly regulated organization.

[Direwolve735]

Is there any point in seeing who is banned?

Can be useful, like if a bounty manager is banned temporarily (it seems happens often) it could save time for hundreds of people.

And not only this. Such information, if it`s public, performs two functions. First, it reports those users who have become anti-examples, in order to demonstrate what happens to those who break the rules. It`s enough to punish a couple of participants in order to intimidate everyone else (this method has been effective since the Middle Ages). Members of the forum see what the consequences of destructive, spam-shit-posting behavior are fraught with, they don`t want to be in the place of the ones who were banned. Therefore, they make causal conclusions: in order not to be banned, I need to improve the quality of my posts, I cannot spam and write nonsense.

Secondly, the openness of such information would help to understand the main reasons for the ban. As it shows a huge number of topics created in the Meta board devoted to the questions "Why was my account banned?", "What did I do wrong?" and the like, it can be concluded that most of the participants aren`t aware of the prerequisites for the ban (they are not familiar with the forum regulations, so they cannot come to the conclusion which of these rules they violated). A public list of banned users would lift the veil on the reasons for removing participants from their activities on the forum.

[Yeahpro]

if the meta section placed at the top it will be very helpful

This is bitcointalk and as such I think Bitcoin related discussion is the primary objective of this forum and it's rightly at the top, Meta is not difficult to navigate to, as all the boards are arranged conveniently for all members to access them

...or text like start from here or any video presentation will be very helpful for newbie. without this it's very tough to start here.

Theymos has once hinted at a possible Welcome message for new members, but I don't think it has been implemented as yet.
Newbie Read before posting is also a very good guide for newbies and a sticky thread on the beginners' section. All members should endeavour to read sticky threads on all the various boards before posting there.

[Veleor]

Administration should hire staff for recovering accounts. It's not good when people don't receive any response for months.

Dear admins,
I've waited long enough and still got no answers. Please reconsider this once again: i need to change e-mail address or just set back the password for DaCash account as it was in January 2018

[hilariousetc]

Administration should hire staff for recovering accounts. It's not good when people don't receive any response for months.

Dear admins,
I've waited long enough and still got no answers. Please reconsider this once again: i need to change e-mail address or just set back the password for DaCash account as it was in January 2018

I agree that we need more staff/admins to help out with things like account recoveries, but theymos did say a while back that he's working on an automatic recovery tool that should be ready by the end of the year. Not sure if that's still on track but hopefully it'll be ready at some point. With that being said, I do think we'll still probably need some admins to help out with them and with other things, especially for those who can't sign a message or can sign one but from an altcoin addy.

Theymos did put my suggestion I made in this thread to create more admins or demi admins in the "OK in principle, would require thought/adjustment/implementation" category so hopefully that will happen at some point and sooner rather than later.

[LTU_btc]

So, what was done since the last big update - new Merit requirements? Nothing! Any of these things which were marked by theymos as "ok" weren't implemented. Is it really so difficult to add simple things which we really need, like new mods, no dedicated staff for account recovery or automated software for recovery, no welcome message for new members, no signature campaign guidelines, no more specific altcoin boards (like beginners an help or technical support). Since August, when theymos posted on this thread, only one meaningful thing was implemented here. I don't want to push theymos, but current situation in forum is far from being perfect and we need some changes.

[Steamtyme]

Just a heads up there is 1 big item being delivered.

This is a component of a comprehensive new set of recovery procedures which will be fully rolled out in the very near future (before the end of the year). This will allow recoveries to move forward at a reasonable pace again.

This had previously been mentioned that it would happen by the end of the year but, now we have confirmation closer to implementation. It's not huge for everyone, but this should help stifle the hacking of accounts to some extent, and through that a percentage of account sales in general.

There are still a ton of items to go, but this is progress. One upside to the recent downturn is that ideally things will slow down here a bit and maybe then we can try and get ahead of some of the other issues.

[Veleor]

• A new member rank after Legendary as it is becoming far too common now and will only become more so as time passes. I would suggest fixing Legendary at 960 activity and the new rank is double that at 1920. You could also make the merit requirement very high for this rank so it's only for the crème de la crème of users [OMG NAZI RANK ITS LIKE THE RICH KEEP GETTING RICHER].

Add a new rank above Legendary, eg "Deity".  

"Deities" could receive some special features. Don't know what exactly but they should get something for sure.

In my opinion this will motivate Legendaries to be more contributing to the forum.

[RivAngE]

• A new member rank after Legendary as it is becoming far too common now and will only become more so as time passes. I would suggest fixing Legendary at 960 activity and the new rank is double that at 1920. You could also make the merit requirement very high for this rank so it's only for the crème de la crème of users [OMG NAZI RANK ITS LIKE THE RICH KEEP GETTING RICHER].

Add a new rank above Legendary, eg "Deity".  

"Deities" could receive some special features. Don't know what exactly but they should get something for sure.

In my opinion this will motivate Legendaries to be more contributing to the forum.

lol good one! But I don't think it'll be good for the forums.
I think Legendary members are already contributing enough. It's the people who spam the forums, often without even knowing English, who we need to fix.

Right now Legendary members are meriting each other because they know each other in this forum for years, so no matter how many ranks are added on top of the Legendary one will be reached without any extra effort or quality increase. It's more important to motivate and reward the average-to-good members who are hardly receiving any Merit at this point (like me?...  )

[darklus123]

Hacked accounts are still one of the primary concern of this forum. I cannot suggest something im just hoping that someone can have a suggestion with regards to getting hacked accounts back to the real owners.

If replacing the management would be a possibility I would put my vote there.

Is there a need to do so? If you can prove to me that the current management is incompetent then i might also vote for that but if you don't then there is no point in discussing this matter

Add a new rank above Legendary, eg "Deity".  

"Deities" could receive some special features. Don't know what exactly but they should get something for sure.

In my opinion this will motivate Legendaries to be more contributing to the forum.

Hmm I don't think if this is necessary for now the main concern as of now is to eliminate new accounts who were doing the scam act. Tho we were saying a little bit of positive result because of the 1 merit req to become a jr. Member

[RivAngE]

Another thing needed by the forums is a 2FA on the login.
If it's set to "remember me" then it shouldn't ask for the 2FA, but for every new device this is an important security measure to have as a choice.

[bitart]

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What is the point of both users and staff wasting time on reports for users that have already been permabanned? There's enough work to be done here already without having to deal with stuff that has already been dealt with. It takes a colossal amount of time and effort for people to report copy and pasters and provide all the evidence and then it wastes staff time having to go though them all needlessly. If the user was shown as permabanned then they can just ignore it. Once a user is banned here their account is done for so I don't think it's a big deal showing that. Many other forums show even temp banned users. It would be helpful in other ways too. You could be doing business with someone and they could just disappear without warning. If they've been banned then at least you'll know why they've mysteriously gone AWOL or are not responding to your messages.
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If there's no or little intention to show if a user has been banned (e.g. changing the rank to 'Banned' or 'Tempban' or something similar), it would be also helpful to just deactivate the 'Report to moderator' button for banned users.
This would not affect the everyday forum member, because it's only a minor part of the members who use that button, the majority won't even look at that button or even notice the existence of it...
But for those who report, it would be really useful.
Also, (it has also been suggested too) if this button would be deactivated for posts that has already been reported, it could also boost the efficiency of reporting.
So if someone only see that there's no Report to moderator button, it won't tell him/her directly that the user has been banned because it could be the post itself too, that has been reported...
This way ban could stay hidden but reporting also could win with it...

[Veleor]

Add the option to quote posts from the closed topics, e.g. "Recovering hacked/lost accounts".


I've found also an old but interesting suggestion:

Trust list: show the rating of the person who left the feedback

[suchmoon]

I've found also an old but interesting suggestion:

Trust list: show the rating of the person who left the feedback

IIRC it used to work that way but was removed for performance reasons.