Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them)

[o_e_l_e_o]

It would be really good to have 'inbuilt' alerts on forum for quoted comments.

See: [RELEASED] @mention notification bot - now with Telegram

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[libert19]

It would be really good to have 'inbuilt' alerts on forum for quoted comments.

See: [RELEASED] @mention notification bot - now with Telegram

I knew someone was going to comment this, that's why I quoted 'inbuilt' word.

I don't understand what so hard about implementing it? Users won't have to find these tools and it will help in keeping track of discussions.

[LoyceV]

I don't understand what so hard about implementing it?

There's one very busy Admin with a long Todo list who gets many requests. Anything that can be created by users provides extra functionality without taking Admin's time.

[TECSHARE]

I don't understand what so hard about implementing it?

There's one very busy Admin with a long Todo list who gets many requests. Anything that can be created by users provides extra functionality without taking Admin's time.

More importantly don't forget every single feature added is a potential back door security risk for the forum. Making sure it is not also takes time. I would be happier with a stale featureless SECURE forum than an unsecure one with lots of bells and whistles.

[bitart]

I don't understand what so hard about implementing it?

There's one very busy Admin with a long Todo list who gets many requests. Anything that can be created by users provides extra functionality without taking Admin's time.

More importantly don't forget every single feature added is a potential back door security risk for the forum. Making sure it is not also takes time. I would be happier with a stale featureless SECURE forum than an unsecure one with lots of bells and whistles.

This is  a 'good old' stlye forum, and it's still working fine for the purpose...
People will choose another forum if that another forum would have the features of this forum plus something additional that's missing here now.
But people are still here and using this forum, so we should not hurry implementing new untested features...
Anyway the new forum software (a really brand new) is under testing now, so the new feature requests should go there directly, it has better chance to get it implemented in the new forum software...

[tbct_mt2]

It is the second forum for bitcoin, only after this one:
http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/boards/index.php
Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum! (by our beloved @satoshi)
The forum plays important roles to help bitcoin's spread over the world over years.

This is  a 'good old' stlye forum, and it's still working fine for the purpose...

It is the elder usually don't like new style forum, and funny things inside, which they consider as annoying stuffs.
However, everything has to adapt to new trend, new style, I think.
If the forum, or anything else lack of ability to adapt changes, trends, it will be wipened out, or degraded gradually over time.
It happen in all areas, not only in crypto, and crypto forum.
However, bitcointalk is the biggest crypto forum for ages, and for now, and to be honest I feel very unrealistic to say the the forum will be suprassed by other later-born forums.

People will choose another forum if that another forum would have the features of this forum plus something additional that's missing here now.
But people are still here and using this forum, so we should not hurry implementing new untested features...
Anyway the new forum software (a really brand new) is under testing now, so the new feature requests should go there directly, it has better chance to get it implemented in the new forum software...

[Veleor]

Suggestion: Forbid to delete comments of staff in self-moderated topics.

Moderators messages are often contain important information and their removal can have negative effects.

For instance, member 'korner' deleted posts of two Russian moderators in his self-moderated topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2613277.msg50629148#msg50629148

[Veleor]

I will modify two of my previous suggestions.

1. Private message

Show in Outbox which of private messages were read by recipients.

No please. This will be used as a tool to pester people. Removes privacy and unnecessary. Just check when they last logged in.

Update: Add checkbox "Notify the sender that you have read the message." The recipient can click it at will.

I suppose, Bitcointalk employees could use this option as well because they're receiving a lot of messages from different members every day.
And the recipient's last login date, in many cases, don't say anything to the sender whether the message has been read or not.


2. Banned accounts

It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).

If theymos is against of showing which accounts are banned, then maybe he make an exception for members that have 300 good reports at least? This will reduce an extra work for active reporters and moderators.

Update: Show the 'Banned' marks to the members which have more than 1000 good reports.

I believe that reporters with such statistic are not so many but with this implementation their effectiveness will significantly raise.

[Veleor]

The editing time of comment must be displaying not after ten minutes but immediately when the post has been changed, even after one second.

It will remove the opportunity for scammers to frame other members with a fake plagiarism.

[Pmalek]

@ Veleor
I wanted to create a thread in Meta a few weeks ago discussing a scenario similar to what you mentioned in your post above.
I backed out and decided not to as it could be a bit controversial and would look like free advice on how to frame someone. I will probably just PM theymos and discuss it over PM.

A question before I do that, can admins see the original post before it was edited?

[LoyceMobile]

A question before I do that, can admins see the original post before it was edited?

They can see older versions, but as far as I know the first 10 minutes don't count as edited (and changes aren't saved).

I keep a copy of most new posts before any edits. If it's ever needed, just ask.

[Veleor]

A question before I do that, can admins see the original post before it was edited?

They can see older versions, but as far as I know the first 10 minutes don't count as edited (and changes aren't saved). <...>

5 minutes, but perhaps this is outdated information.

<...> Edits aren't recorded when they occur within 5 minutes of the post time. (This has always been the case.)

[Pmalek]

OK so based on Veleor's quote of theymos, if a post gets edited in the first five minutes of it being posted that change never gets saved in any log by the forum and the admins aren't aware that anything was edited. Is that correct?

[Veleor]

The main difficulty in finding useful forum comments, in my opinion, lies in the initial uneven sMerit allocation between members and that the whole work of the Merit distribution falls to a few dozen sources at most.

Along with Merit, it would probably make sense to introduce additional assessment points (voices) for all forum users, starting with Jr. Members.

These voices could be sent for the comments you like, but they must not affect the number of Merit.

On the base of such system it would be possible to organize a regularly updated list of popular comments, with the help of which it will be more convenient for Merit sources to detect good messages on the forum.

The picture below shows how the post with received Merit and votes might look like.

[Upgrade00]

These voices could be sent for the comments you like, but they must not affect the number of Merit.

On the base of such system it would be possible to organize a regularly updated list of popular comments, with the help of which it will be more convenient for Merit sources to detect good messages on the forum.

How would we prevent spam, putting anything down to majority vote the system can be easily abused, and would need extra moderation.
Increasing merit sources and smerits available to them would also be a good idea.
I suggest we also start considering lower ranked members as sources. This would help quell the idea of segregation, and would also give reliable members a chance to gain trust early on.

[Veleor]

How would we prevent spam, putting anything down to majority vote the system can be easily abused, and would need extra moderation. <...>

To avoid abuse, votes may have a limited amount (10 for example) which will be replenished every 24 hours.
The number of received votes is the same for all ranks from Jr. Members. Unused votes cannot be accumulated.

[Thekool1s]

Since this post has started to decay, I want to bump this thread and bring Theymos's Attention to @Veleor's suggestion. I recently ran out of sMerits and i liked this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191696.msg52716329#msg52716329 ,  I was about to create a post just to write that I agree with them but I didn't cuz that would have been just a shitpost and would have ruined the reading experience for other users. Instead, I thought of an upvoting/liking For "non-merit Sources". But after reading the last few posts of @Veleor They had the same idea as mine. Is there any chance of it getting implemented?

[Veleor]

I've read a topic that hundreds Bitcointalk users can participate in the paid signature campaigns, but at the same time they don't have any earned merit, except airdropped (10, 100, 250, 500, 1000).

When users receiving money for posting, then I believe their comments should have at least some value for other forum members.

So I have a suggestion: if a forum member didn't get any merit in the last, for instance, 90 or 120 days, then such user will not be able to change the signature.

It should be noted that users without new merit still might have been able to continue wear their old signatures.

[Thekool1s]

So I have a suggestion: if a forum member didn't get any merit in the last, for instance, 90 or 120 days, then such user will not be able to change the signature.

+1. Although many signature campaigns do have this requirement I feel like this should be something set as default. Not All signature Campaign managers have this rule and some new ones don't give a F@@k about spam.

[SM23031997]

I would suggest pinning this thread like some other useful posts.
It has everything that needs a discussion of has been already discussed thousand of time on the forum.

Nice work by hilariousandco