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March 02, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
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he left me neg also and i have many positives and he did same to tomatoe cage

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March 02, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
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he left me neg also and i have many positives and he did same to tomatoe cage

Hey there!  Long time no talk.  I recently had a similar situation where someone wrongly tagged me with negative trust for pointing out their issues.

Don't worry...they aren't in most people's trust circles, and Tomatocage is in the Default trust circle.  Not to mention that TC has left him negative trust, as well.  People will see his ratings & make the right call, hopefully.

The only person who's making you show up as red is Kouye - I'd address that loan thread w/ him and see if you guys can clear that up.  Other than that, no one would even see it unless they went in & clicked "Show Untrusted Feedback"

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March 02, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
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he left me neg also and i have many positives and he did same to tomatoe cage

Hey there!  Long time no talk.  I recently had a similar situation where someone wrongly tagged me with negative trust for pointing out their issues.

Don't worry...they aren't in most people's trust circles, and Tomatocage is in the Default trust circle.  Not to mention that TC has left him negative trust, as well.  People will see his ratings & make the right call, hopefully.

The only person who's making you show up as red is Kouye - I'd address that loan thread w/ him and see if you guys can clear that up.  Other than that, no one would even see it unless they went in & clicked "Show Untrusted Feedback"

I had contacted Kouyo many times about the situation and had tried to handle it professionally.  I had taken my negative off him, hoping he would have done the same, as I had prooved im not a scammer.  So then I left mine on him as well cause I dont think hes a bad person but misjudged me by mistake.

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March 02, 2014, 06:37:48 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2014, 01:30:41 PM by membersound
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I have retracted my initial negative rating.
Despite all the negative feedback, their service is very cooperative. Anytime I had a glitch in any game (like hangup) they credited me the full credit amount back.
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March 03, 2014, 01:24:00 AM
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Guys the OP made another User name and casino to bump his casinos on here, on the gambling Section, now that against TOS, isnt it

Same Casino!!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497526.0

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March 03, 2014, 01:43:53 AM
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Guys the OP made another User name and casino to bump his casinos on here, on the gambling Section, now that against TOS, isnt it

Same Casino!!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497526.0
He made a new thread in services too. TomatoCage, can you do anything about this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497570.msg0#new

Leave him negative rep again.
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March 03, 2014, 01:47:05 AM
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yeah Im gonna neg him for this.  This is abuse of the forums

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March 03, 2014, 02:44:34 AM
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I cannot find anywhere on their site where they explain how they are provably fair, even though they claim to be on their thread. All of my replies on their other thread have been deleted and I suggest the other accounts that are supporting him are also run by him, and he also talks in a very unprofessional manner.

I will delete this thread as soon as concrete evidence of their provable fairness is provided.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485708.0

I cannot find anywhere on their site where they explain how they are provably fair, even though they claim to be on their thread. All of my replies on their other thread have been deleted and I suggest the other accounts that are supporting him are also run by him, and he also talks in a very unprofessional manner.

I will delete this thread as soon as concrete evidence of their provable fairness is provided.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485708.0
Ok guys lets answer some questions. We should point out that every person who tries to make us out as a scammer etc are those with primedice signatures. Funny about that.  Shame because we pay more for signatures.

Anyway...
To answer RGBKEY
We are provably fair. In fact this is what appears on our site:
 
To guarantee a 100% fair deck, we are using a complex algorithm that combines the power of
random.org and the Fisher-Yates algorithm for actually shuffling the cards.
First we are shuffling the deck using the custom seed which was built like described above,
with the Fisher-Yates algorithm and then we are using the API of random.org to generate another
random seed for shuffling the cards one more time. The involvement of a neutral 3rd party in this
(random.org) to help shuffle the deck once more, reduces the chance of manipulating anything to 0%.
Our software is "provably fair" meaning that the gameplay data of each hand played can be tested if it was randomly shuffled, by checking the "Gameplay history" page.
To enhance your trust, we would like to inform you how each gameplay works.
By clicking on this banner, a new section has been made available in the my account area, which allows you to edit how many times each deck is shuffled and the seed number used to shuffle the deck.
By allowing you to modify these 2 variables used in our games we allow you to play your own part in the mixing of the cards and the slot machine reels and influence the fairness of the games making everything 100% fair.
Each time a new gameplay is started, the deck is shuffled, like in any real casino, and if requested, it can be showed to you after the gameplay has finished. To see this, all you have to do is go to the "Gameplay history" page and click on DETAILS.
The deck is shuffled as many times as you requested. Also, when shuffling the deck, the seed used for shuffling is created from a combination of server-side code and client-side code. This way, the seed used for shuffling the numbers from the deck cannot be manipulated by neither us or by the player. To guarantee a 100% fair deck, we are using a complex algorithm that combines the power of random.org and the Fisher-Yates algorithm for actually shuffling the cards. First we are shuffling the deck using the custom seed which was built like described above, with the Fisher-Yates algorithm and then we are using the API of random.org to generate another random seed for shuffling the cards one more time. The involvement of a neutral 3rd party in this (random.org) to help shuffle the deck once more, reduces the chance of manipulating anything to 0%, making this a 100% fair solution.
By using the above method, we give you control over two very important things:
1.You are allowed to influence the way the deck is shuffled, by setting the custom seed.
2.You will know how many times the deck was shuffled.

Also, once you have logged in there is a provably fair link. click it and you can shuffle and it gives you a rng seed number.


For everyone else that is calling us "scammers" Do you have any proof of this? Has anyone EVER said they where not paid by us?
NO ONE has made that claim. Because we pay everyone.  In other words we are asking you all to put up or shut up.
Show ANY proof we are scammers. For those that ask us to show our bitcoin wallet. What we have in our wallet is none of
your business. Show us your bank account. If we asked you that , you would say the same thing.

 I should also point out that we will be one of the first bitcoin casinos in the world to be fully licensed. That means we are audited by the government and we cannot and will not try to scam anyone at the risk of losing a license.

 That should clear up all of the sceptics. So RGBKEY stick to what you said in the thread and remove this thread.  Also we will remove all neg trust if you all do the same. That choice is up to you. If you remove the neg let us know so we can do the same in return.  

Best ,
RitzGrandCasino
 

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March 03, 2014, 02:51:30 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2014, 03:01:40 AM by zolace
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Licensed where?  in the USA,
Also if your licensed then why you need to hide your identity?

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March 03, 2014, 02:58:19 AM
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Zolace, that is a generic thing that godaddy uses for domain proxies.  All domains that use a proxy get that address, using godaddys service
The name registrar for the domain is in the usa.

We are in the UK.

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March 03, 2014, 03:02:49 AM
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so again where are you licensed exactly in the UK.  Why your not using licensed software? 

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March 03, 2014, 03:09:17 AM
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so again where are you licensed exactly in the UK.  Why your not using licensed software? 
Because bitcoin is not considered a currency of any particular country and therefore there is no requirement of a licence.
(just yet anyway)


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March 03, 2014, 03:13:09 AM
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so again where are you licensed exactly in the UK.  Why your not using licensed software? 
Because bitcoin is not considered a currency of any particular country and therefore there is no requirement of a licence.
(just yet anyway)



so if your not licensed your software can be rouge.  Also you grabbed that info from someone elses thread.  I seen it somewhere.

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March 03, 2014, 03:18:51 AM
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so again where are you licensed exactly in the UK.  Why your not using licensed software? 
Because bitcoin is not considered a currency of any particular country and therefore there is no requirement of a licence.
(just yet anyway)



so if your not licensed your software can be rouge.  Also you grabbed that info from someone elses thread.  I seen it somewhere.

No other bitcoin software is licensed either. As far as we know. Primedice etc etc. There is no need for a licence using bitcoin.
We didn't grab anything off anyone. We should also point out that zolace was that impressed by our software he wanted to buy it himself. Yes we have the conversation logs to post up here if anyone wants to read it. The only thing that stopped him was the $$$.  Be honest and admit to that zolace.

 

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March 03, 2014, 03:23:15 AM
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lol I wanted to buy your software?    ha ha ha ha, thats the funniest lie I read, so now your going to make up some stuff and photo shop it to frame me, that is genius.    I never in a thousand years want to operate a rouge casino.

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March 03, 2014, 03:26:24 AM
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lol I wanted to buy your software, ha ha ha ha, thats the funniest lie I read, so now yor going to make up some stuff and photo shop it to frame me, that is genius.    I never in a thousand years want to operate a rouge casino.

oh you forgot the conversation you had with us on our site?  Let me get the screen shot to remind you. You also claimed you wanted to fly out to meet us.
Dude, you couldn't even afford a 2nd hand big mac on ebay!
 

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March 03, 2014, 03:30:09 AM
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You know what I did my part now you will be judged and thanks for showing all of us your true colors.  As long as us the community stick together, you will never operate on here, unless you can prove certain things. See ya later alligator.

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March 03, 2014, 03:40:12 AM
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oh zolace don't run off because we are going to show the chat we had. Just admit it that you wanted to buy our software.
zolace is the guest. Enjoy the read!

  Guest 8168 Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:35:07 +0000   
 
 is it just they are in such demand or what.. why are they so high to get hands on? 
 

  james Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:35:08 +0000   
 
 you would need to populate the casino with games and that costs $$$$ . Then you need to advertise that's more $$$$$. So at the end of the day, you need lots of capital.
 

  Guest 8168 Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:35:33 +0000   
 
 yeah SEO stuff no problem in Korea 
 

  james Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:35:38 +0000   
 
 supply and demand. 
 

  Guest 8168 Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:35:47 +0000   
 
 yeah i guess so   
 

  Guest 8168 Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:36:09 +0000   
 
 mmm maybe i will just hire some coders in korea for a few months and develop my own im sure possible for much cheaper 
 

  james Mon, 10 Feb 14 16:36:26 +0000   
 
 everyone shops around just like you did and found the most logical answer depending on their $$$
 

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March 03, 2014, 03:50:12 AM
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This shows how far your willing to scam and lie to protect yourself, again everyone check my feedback of all the good business I had done here.  You even got a negative from Tomatoe Cage.  Why you keep making things worse for yourself.  What you should have done is fought with positive comments and listen to people.  You wont make it far with this kinda attitude. 

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March 03, 2014, 03:54:20 AM
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This shows how far your willing to scam and lie to protect yourself, again everyone check my feedback of all the good business I had done here.  You even got a negative from Tomatoe Cage.  Why you keep making things worse for yourself.  What you should have done is fought with positive comments and listen to people.  You wont make it far with this kinda attitude. 
Zolace why wont you admit it was you in that chat? Just admit it. We are not making anything worse. We are answering truthfully everyones questions including yours. But you just don't reciprocate in answering truthfully.

I WILL ASK AGAIN: DID YOU WANT TO BUY OUR SOFTWARE? YES/NO
Just answer the question truthfully.



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