The difference between science and religion

[BADecker]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.

But God exists... fact. The faith part is believing Him when He tells us about the coming resurrection.

Nobody cares about your faith.  It does not change a thing.

You are quite wrong about this. The example right here is that my faith causes me to post some of the things that I post in this forum. And some of the things I post modify the thinking of others. So, we all have and use faith. And all of us base our faith on things that we do religiously, day after day... even scientific things that we do.

[af_newbie]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.

But God exists... fact. The faith part is believing Him when He tells us about the coming resurrection.

Nobody cares about your faith.  It does not change a thing.

You are quite wrong about this. The example right here is that my faith causes me to post some of the things that I post in this forum. And some of the things I post modify the thinking of others. So, we all have and use faith. And all of us base our faith on things that we do religiously, day after day... even scientific things that we do.

At least you are honest about why you do it.

Your faith (or faith of other people) does not impact the reality one tiny bit.  

It does not matter if you have 2 billion delusional people, they still are delusional.  

Believing something does not make it true.

I care about the truth.  If I don't know something, I say I don't know, you instead adopted some ancient cult to fill your (large) gaps in knowledge.

[LickKing]

This is really a bold idea. But you don't understand the importance of religion. Religion is the most basic step in science. The future world must be subverted. But it all stems from the early imagination. In short, religion is very important to the meaning of science.

[Moloch]

This is really a bold idea. But you don't understand the importance of religion. Religion is the most basic step in science. The future world must be subverted. But it all stems from the early imagination. In short, religion is very important to the meaning of science.

This makes no sense at all... science does not depend on religion for anything

Care to elaborate on how exactly "religion is the most basic step in science", or "religion is very important to the meaning of science"?

Science is about exploring and explaining the natural world, not supernatural woo-woo

[Moloch]

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll just leave this here

[IndeecV]

This is really a bold idea. But you don't understand the importance of religion. Religion is the most basic step in science. The future world must be subverted. But it all stems from the early imagination. In short, religion is very important to the meaning of science.

The sole contribution of religion to science is education. In the Middle Ages, all training was concentrated in monasteries and churches. Many scientists were novices.
Because the church is an institution that accumulated knowledge and other learning opportunities (outside the ordinary crafts) did not exist.
But all the contradictions between the faith and knowledge of the mejou were interpreted in favor of the faith. Therefore, at some point religion has become a brake. And it remains to them so far.

[BADecker]

You are quite wrong about this. The example right here is that my faith causes me to post some of the things that I post in this forum. And some of the things I post modify the thinking of others. So, we all have and use faith. And all of us base our faith on things that we do religiously, day after day... even scientific things that we do.

At least you are honest about why you do it.

Your faith (or faith of other people) does not impact the reality one tiny bit.  

It does not matter if you have 2 billion delusional people, they still are delusional.  

Believing something does not make it true.

I care about the truth.  If I don't know something, I say I don't know, you instead adopted some ancient cult to fill your (large) gaps in knowledge.

Your buddy, Moloch:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll just leave this here

[Initscri]

Science should absolutely always trump religion. Religion can be practiced, but not with the malice or disadvantage of society. There are many circumstances where religion and churches have benefited society, and many situations where it has not. Religion is historically based (but loosely). Science is going forward, and willing to adapt. Anything willing to adapt to facts should be followed primarily, as that's the only way the world will progress.

I firmly agree with the seperation of Church/State. IMO religion should be something that should be personal, but not used to dictate complex laws by complex countries/states.

[BADecker]

Religion talked about and used the wheel thousands of years before science ever existed.

[Moloch]

A channel I follow on YouTube posted a video about the recent Nobel Prize in chemistry.  They describe in detail how the various teams used evolution of a bacteriophage virus to create new medicines, fuels, etc.

The 2018 Nobel Prize in Chemistry - Periodic Table of Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKtFKphuds

This is how science works... they show you exactly how they did it, and how you could do it to if you want to test their claim

Any time I have tested a claim by religion, it fails... science works

[af_newbie]

[BADecker]

Religion talked about and used mathematics thousands of years before science ever existed.

[af_newbie]

Religion talked about and used mathematics thousands of years before science ever existed.

Should we use trepanning to cure migraines or perform bloodletting in alignment with the planets and zodiacs?

Talmud recommended specific days of the week and month to perform bloodletting, well before modern medicine existed.

Not sure what is your point.  

Are you suggesting that religious, ignorant superstitions are superior to science?

Your ignorance of the modern world is astounding.

[BADecker]

Religion talked about and used mathematics thousands of years before science ever existed.

Should we use trepanning to cure migraines or perform bloodletting in alignment with the planets and zodiacs?

Talmud recommended specific days of the week and month to perform bloodletting, well before modern medicine existed.

Not sure what is your point.  

Are you suggesting that religious, ignorant superstitions are superior to science?

Your ignorance of the modern world is astounding.

You go right ahead and use the form of science you want to use, right?

Remember this picture?:

Science and Religion

We have only had big gun science for about 300 years, maybe. But the population of the world is larger than ever by natural science which supports religion? How does it support religion? Many religions have as one of their major themes, reproduction, via natural science.

The title should have been, "The difference between science and science."

When you check out info listed on the Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? page, and then do the research to verify it, you find out that man made science tends towards death and destroying people in the name of money. It's like this with the big gun picture, above.

Religion tends towards life by natural means, the only way it can be done.

Are you starting to get the picture, yet? Or are you going to remain in your astounding ignorance of modern science?

[sudeshkumar]

Science needs logic to prove practically whereas religion is dependent on the myth without proof ,for example newton law of gravity was based on the activity of the falling apple ,people were living life with the idea that apple falls on the ground and they eat before the advent of law of gravitation,and after the invention apple is still  falling on the ground there is no change in the activity of falling apple .So this is the difference between science and religion .Myth comes first then science

[BADecker]

Science needs logic to prove practically whereas religion is dependent on the myth without proof ,for example newton law of gravity was based on the activity of the falling apple ,people were living life with the idea that apple falls on the ground and they eat before the advent of law of gravitation,and after the invention apple is still  falling on the ground there is no change in the activity of falling apple .So this is the difference between science and religion .Myth comes first then science

Do you see what you just said? For thousands of years people ate apples that fell to the ground, because that is the way that gravity science works. Then Newton came along less than 400 years ago, and decided to "quantify" the science talked about in religion for thousands of years.

Nothing changes, except the descriptions of a few things scientifically observed. They were the same in the past. Only the words changed.

[sudeshkumar]

Science needs logic to prove practically whereas religion is dependent on the myth without proof ,for example newton law of gravity was based on the activity of the falling apple ,people were living life with the idea that apple falls on the ground and they eat before the advent of law of gravitation,and after the invention apple is still  falling on the ground there is no change in the activity of falling apple .So this is the difference between science and religion .Myth comes first then science

Do you see what you just said? For thousands of years people ate apples that fell to the ground, because that is the way that gravity science works. Then Newton came along less than 400 years ago, and decided to "quantify" the science talked about in religion for thousands of years.

Nothing changes, except the descriptions of a few things scientifically observed. They were the same in the past. Only the words changed.

Absolutly right but with the help of the science after knowing gravity humane being, endeavored to go out of the gravity with rocket propulsion and reached in space whereas the religion can not  help to send humane being in space ,this is difference between science and religion.

[BADecker]

Science needs logic to prove practically whereas religion is dependent on the myth without proof ,for example newton law of gravity was based on the activity of the falling apple ,people were living life with the idea that apple falls on the ground and they eat before the advent of law of gravitation,and after the invention apple is still  falling on the ground there is no change in the activity of falling apple .So this is the difference between science and religion .Myth comes first then science

Do you see what you just said? For thousands of years people ate apples that fell to the ground, because that is the way that gravity science works. Then Newton came along less than 400 years ago, and decided to "quantify" the science talked about in religion for thousands of years.

Nothing changes, except the descriptions of a few things scientifically observed. They were the same in the past. Only the words changed.

Absolutly right but with the help of the science after knowing gravity humane being, endeavored to go out of the gravity with rocket propulsion and reached in space whereas the religion can not  help to send humane being in space ,this is difference between science and religion.

Here is what to do. Go into the cold lands in the middle of winter. Move into a small trailer, like a travel trailer that is only 30 feet long and 8 feet wide. Take along enough food and water for a year. Then sit in there without going outside for a few months. That's what living in space is like.

I'd take religion over science any day.

[sudeshkumar]

Science needs logic to prove practically whereas religion is dependent on the myth without proof ,for example newton law of gravity was based on the activity of the falling apple ,people were living life with the idea that apple falls on the ground and they eat before the advent of law of gravitation,and after the invention apple is still  falling on the ground there is no change in the activity of falling apple .So this is the difference between science and religion .Myth comes first then science

Do you see what you just said? For thousands of years people ate apples that fell to the ground, because that is the way that gravity science works. Then Newton came along less than 400 years ago, and decided to "quantify" the science talked about in religion for thousands of years.

Nothing changes, except the descriptions of a few things scientifically observed. They were the same in the past. Only the words changed.

Absolutly right but with the help of the science after knowing gravity humane being, endeavored to go out of the gravity with rocket propulsion and reached in space whereas the religion can not  help to send humane being in space ,this is difference between science and religion.

Here is what to do. Go into the cold lands in the middle of winter. Move into a small trailer, like a travel trailer that is only 30 feet long and 8 feet wide. Take along enough food and water for a year. Then sit in there without going outside for a few months. That's what living in space is like.

I'd take religion over science any day.

I respect your feelings religion is over science always because definition of the religion  is set of positive cannons /principles, which the followers need to be complied with, otherwise they are out of the  religion for example Love for humane being ,co operation with each other up against the voilence etc. and all these norms can be maintained by providing knowledge and help .But there are more than 350 religions on this earth these  are having different set of rules ,only one thing is common to them they pray positivity and this is called sprituality,and the science,politics, economics etc,are the part of it because all are ,for, humane beings.On the other hand it is appreciable that medicines ,modern tech for treatment provides longer life span to humanity with the help of science. 

[cabalism13]

But God exists... fact.

It wasn't a fact. It doesn't have any evidence that God really exists.
Facts are said to be true and only by evidence.

The faith part is believing Him when He tells us about the coming resurrection.

There is no ressurection buddy. Brace yourself and accept the real fact of life.Every life forms are meant to be wastes for the sole reason of Life Cycle.