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May 17, 2014, 06:46:14 AM
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> So. You have outgrown another teacher. Good. Now. What do you
> see, that neither Armstrong, nor I, can see. And what is most
> beneficial? First, for you. Then for humanity.

The less luggage one carries, the more adeptly they can love and produce.

(luggage includes futures contracts, collectives, debt, idols)

But isn't marriage and offspring luggage? Perhaps not if the parties understand and respect the first sentence above.

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Subject: Some improvement in Armstrong's logic?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 17, 2014 6:54 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/17/more-insider-trading-nonsense-wheres-the-beef/

Quote from: Armstrong
We do not need the Illumiati or Bilderbergs, we have
unelected bureaucrats who make their own laws and alter society for
something a lot more concrete than world domination – personal career
enrichment. Outlawing the Bilderbergs and Illuminati will not save our
future.

The blog post linked above exhibits some apparently astute logic and
historical research on the territorial basis for taxation and insider
trading. Kudos.

The quote above is an improvement over prior illogical speculation that
the globalists do not exist and have no impact on the coordination
(manipulation) of various governments towards globalist agendas.

The last sentence is true, but not for the reason Armstrong was thinking.
If it were possible that the globalists wouldn't exist, then coordination
and globalist agendas would be reduced to chaos as various governments
would act selfishly in random (probabilistically independent, i.e. maximum
entropy) ways and thus globalist enslavement agenda would in theory cease.
National enslavement would continue, but we'd have other orthogonal
nations as escape frontiers to use against the nation that was trying to
enslave us. However, the last sentence remains true because the power
vacuum would always demand the existence of a global elite. For example,
clearly you can see that national governments would have an incentive to
cooperate so their respective slaves (citizens) can't escape to other
nations as frontiers (e.g. to escape unjust taxation). Thus a global elite
would come into existence in order to manage the coordination of such.

There is no solution that can come from reforming government, because the
power vacuum is the entire reason government exists in the first place.
How do we get a large group of people to (i.e. a society) to be organized
when people are diverse and have many diverse competing ideals, ideas,
priorities, pet issues, etc?? Thus we elect a government to resolve this
by force according to Max Weber's canonical definition of government
(which has never been improved upon).

As I have tried to explain to Martin, the only solutions for freedom have
always come from the technological means for individuals to escape to
frontiers wherein they can outproduce the cancerous society.

Originally that meant the technology to travel to new geographical
locations. But now the entire world is in unison on the globalist
enslavement agenda, thus travel is no longer a frontier. Even the
globalists with their false-flag terrorism have checkpoints on every
practical travel technology.

Thus the only frontier now is the internet and cryptography which allows
us to produce and be completely invisible to the taxation authorities.

I don't know why it is taking Martin such a long time to come to this
conclusion. It is obvious. And so now you know why the Bible says they
will throw their gold and silver into the streets. It is because tangible
assets are becoming completely controlled (or will be illiquid because of
need to avoid taxation when traded).

Technology is always the frontier. Technological unemployment coincides
with the end of Martin's 78 year real estate cycle. The internet has
created the means to track everyone globally and eliminated tangible cash
(possibilities for trade are orders-of-magnitude less when physical
exchange is required). But this also introduced cryptography for everyone.
We have no choice, we must bring that cryptography technology to the
masses in order to level the playing field and restore frontiers and
anonymity of cash.

Quote from: Armstrong
We need REAL political reform – end the career
politicians and regulate the bureaucrats and eliminate judges and
prosecutors who do not strictly follow the law enacted by the people –
that is a real democratic reform.

How long will it take him to realize that this pipe dream is impossible?
The only reform will come in the form "international cooperation"
globalist enslavement agenda completed circa 2032.

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Subject: Armstrong pounds sand against global climate change hoax BS
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, May 18, 2014 9:26 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/18/global-warming-fascist-movement-academic-welfare/

And admirably no mention of whether a global elite is aiding that process,
so at least he isn't arguing that these global movements aren't possibly
coordinated by globalists.

Note he didn't mention the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment in
Brazil. Remember the U.N. was created by globalists as a second attempt
after Rockefeller's League of Nations floundered.

Armstrong is good at identifying the overt visible protagonists. But he is
wary to connect the dots of the globalists who are pulling the
coordination strings behind the curtain which he can't see in his personal
experiences in meeting politicians and academics.

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Note Armstrong had commented about the following in his recent interview:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/17/interview-by-jim-puplava/

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: political unrest cycle heating up
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Misdirecting the sheeople's attention from the worsening national
economies by evoking nationalism via war provocation (keeping the sheeople
blinded to the fact that globalists aided and abetted the massive
indebtedness and socialism):

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/603327/japan-to-establish-island-military-posts-report

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/603183/vietnam-riots-force-3000-chinese-to-flee

Rising sentiment against government corruption. Note placing blame on the
pawns instead of the globalists who put provided the paradigm for these
pawns to come into power (and be sure the globalists pulled the strings to
insure these political dynasties are now be dismantled, this is to pave
the way to change the Constitution to a parliamentary government to
enslave the Filipinos in globalist hegemony):

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/603141/more-than-150-solons-in-luys-pork-records

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May 19, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
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Don't you have anything to do with yourself than write complete jibberish.

^That.


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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong's knowledge & analysis of history is astounding
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 20, 2014 2:14 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Impressive:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/19/constantine-saint-or-just-another-political-fraud/

The shift is underway to the knowledge age:

https://www.caseyresearch.com/cm/gold-is-dead_long-live-tech

Crypto-currency is the new frontier.

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Subject: Math of interest, debt,  and debasement is a power vacuum that creates a globalist elite
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 20, 2014 8:32 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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I wrote this last year. Easier to read by clicking this link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195275.msg3382108#msg3382108


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Quote from: AnonyMint link=topic=195275.msg3374775#msg3374775
date=1382289337
Quote from: digitalindustry link=topic=195275.msg3373455#msg3373455
date=1382272841
Quote from: AnonyMint link=topic=195275.msg3371529#msg3371529
date=1382234513
...

The key to understanding the economics of debasement is that
money
supply inflation always goes to workers salaries
[1], so it is not a
problem. The theft that occurs with fractional reserve banking is mainly
by periodically confiscating the capital of the population with an
economic implosion and a reset of the currency, e.g. bank failures in a
fractional reserve system or the coming bail-ins and retirement account
nationalizations for G7 nations. And without perpetual debasement, you
must have fractional reserve banking, because of the logic Etlase2 and I
discussed upthread.

An economy can't run properly without perpetual debasement because then
capital never has to move (because it never rots), it can just sit in a
hole forever. Nothing in the universe is forever, so to structure capital
to be forever introduces abnormality that can't be.

[1] A more direct link to the math,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160612.msg2895021#msg2895021

Where I think you misunderstand is the relationship between "interest" and
debt.

You make a blanket assumption that all currency must expand because of the
principal of interest ?

We are getting off-topic of this thread, and I don't have any strong
disagreements with the rest of what you wrote. However, let me clarify
this one point. I agreed with Etlase2 that in theory interest could simply
be transferred, if not everyone is in debt, but mathematically it can't
occur. I provided two orthogonal (to each other) reasons for the
mathematical certainty that interest requires an expanding money supply:

1. If all base money is earning an interest, then the base money supply
must expand, otherwise there doesn't exist enough base money to pay the
interest.

2. Those who earn the interest are wealthy, and only spend a fraction of
their passive income, thus they don't transfer it back to those who are
paying interest. Thus, it is a mathematical certainty that eventually all
of the money supply will be transferred to them, if we don't debase the
money supply.



Note that with central bank control, the most wealthy and powerful
debase the money supply sufficiently to destroy those earning interest
(current ZIRP), and pass the debasement to themselves. These periodic
resets are how they take all the interest that was aggregated by
moderately wealthy who are less powerful including the disposable banking
corporations. A grotesque racket.

This is why they
are
going after the millionaires now
, to confiscate (via their control
of the government) what was aggregated since the last reset 1929 - 1955.
This reset is 2007 - 2033. Every 78 years (3 x 26 reproductive maturity
generations).

You have to Think Like a Bankster to understand how the globalists play
the game:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.10/thinklikeabanker.html

You see what Merkel did as soon as she was re-elected to her lame duck
term, she cooperates to supra-nationalize the German banks to transfer
control to the EU (Brussels), where the most wealthy and powerful have
even more control:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/09/26/one-day-after-german-elections-truth-comes-out/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/20/growing-concern-about-the-federalization-of-europe/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/14/european-banking-crisis-seizing-10-of-everyones-accounts-hello-cyprus/

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Subject: If Armstrong can't answer this simple question,  then he should stop the nonsense
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 21, 2014 3:22 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/20/why-conspiracy-theories-give-way-too-much-credit-to-mythical-people/

Regarding the above illogic (i.e. no basis nor evidence is provided for
the concluded remarks), so then why don't the globalists conduct their
meetings with a full public record of what was discussed? Or phrased
another way, since when did cartels become legal?

Have all the globalists come on record, then we can't stop deluding
ourselves that they are not hiding illegal collusion.

Let's not forget these globalists own all multi-national corporations:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html


I am sick and tired of Armstrong's nonsense on this issue. I hope those
with the power to write to the public-at-large will call him out on this
question.

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Cross-posting...

Those who are expecting dollar collapse and hyperinflation are clueless about history. Never in the history of the world, not even in Rome, has the global reserve currency collapsed. It doesn't happen. Only revolutionary governments which can't sell their own bonds collapse into hyperinflation.

Rather what is happening now is the "borrower is slave to lender". The USA is taking control of the globe now and the dollar will become very strong. They will track down all wealth globally and confiscate it. All the pawns of the USA (Europe, Japan, etc) and the fake antagonists (Russia, China) are on board this plan to share information to track down "tax evasion" which is a code word for Totalitarianism.

Again find the link in my prior post and read that entire Mad Max thread so you can re-educate yourselves.

Civilizations (problem solving societies) collapse because of the diminishing return on additional investment in additional complexity. Tainter's Law.

http://www.jayhanson.org/page134.htm

No they collapse because of socialism and collectivism when the private sector shrinks to for example 25% of GDP (and govt+regulation compliance is 75% of GDP as is the case in the USA and Europe now), which is an orthogonal property to knowledge formation. Here are a few examples of the cancer upon us now:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/unions-out-of-control-the-real-poison-pill/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/how-bureaucrats-undermine-everything/

Don't conflate the perils of collectivism with the beauty of technological advance.

We already had this discussion in two other threads already and I am not going to debate you again, as I already shown the idiotic illogic of your conflation of the two:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6513193#msg6513193

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Subject: Eliminating career politicians doesn't eliminate the power vacuum   of democracy
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 21, 2014 8:24 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/return-of-corruption-sorry-lobbying/

Quote from: Armstrong
it seems remarkable that companies would do anything but
lobby. A particularly vivid example was in 2004, when an aggressive
corporate campaign prompted Congress to grant a one-off tax holiday for
American companies to repatriate foreign earnings. The outright return on
lobbying costs, according to one of the various studies that served as
inspiration for the Strategas index, was $220 for each $1 spent. (see also
CNBC).

An you wonder WHY I say we FIRST need to get rid of career politicians –
one term only. Do that, and most else will start to fall into
place.

Martin, setting term limits won't resolve the perils of socialism and
collectivism.

You are naively expecting that if the people who are elected have no
incentive to remain in office then they will try to do what is best for
the citizens rather than appeasing lobbyists.

Again you fail to understand the deeper implications of the reference I
have sent you numerous times as follows.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984

Quote
Some Iron Laws of Political Economics

Mancur Olson, in his book The Logic Of Collective Action,
highlighted the central problem of politics in a democracy. The benefits
of political market-rigging can be concentrated to benefit particular
special interest groups, while the costs (in higher taxes, slower economic
growth, and many other second-order effects) are diffused through the
entire population.

The result is a scramble in which individual interest groups perpetually
seek to corner more and more rent from the system, while the incremental
costs of this behavior rise slowly enough that it is difficult to sustain
broad political opposition to the overall system of political privilege
and rent-seeking.

Let me spell it out for you. The "special interest groups" are the
citizens. The citizens form groups that demand the government give them
benefits. For example, you documented this recently "Germany is promising
a Woman’s Mother’s Pension  for those mothers whose children were born
before 1992. They will be entitled to early retirement at 63":

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/18/german-politicians-promise-unfunded-pensions-just-to-win/

Politicians get elected when they promise everyone everything. Term limits
won't change the fact that citizens view government as a collective trough
from which each citizen should vote to get their fair share. Problem is
that to appease this it requires politicians to promise more and more
share, i.e. government becomes a larger and larger share of the GDP
crowding out the private sector and ultimately reaching Totalitarianism as
we are entering now with the NSA and the hunt for all wealth to fund the
for example $200 trillion of actuarial obligations promised by the U.S.
government.

Martin you are just masturbating with the term limits idea. In fact, you
play right into the plans of the globalists, because reform of the
nation-states is part of the globalist agenda taking us towards
"international cooperation and oversight for transparency" which is a code
phrase for global hegemony and enslavement of the global citizen in the
power vacuum of global collectivism.

The only solution to rising to periodic end game of collectivism (when it
reaches Totalitarianism) has always been for the intellectuals and
forthright to seek out frontiers. In fact, your masturbation delusion
about term limits as a nirvana is in direct defiance of the your own model
which tells you there must always be a cycle. The cycle has always been
and will always be an oscillation between rising socialism and rising
frontiers.

So now the frontier of geography and cash are gone. So what is the next
frontier? It is of course technological.

Sooner or later you will realize I am correct.

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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: There will never be effective planning in government (not even in  China)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 21, 2014 9:07 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/21188/

Quote from: Armstrong
VA Scandal – More Evidence that Government is INCAPABLE
of Planning

...

Give the people FULL coverage in the private sector and that just may
spark a reality check that these wars are going to COST a lot more money
that people thought so perhaps they will not be so eager to wage war on
the world.

Martin, it is clear from your posts about China that you admire their 5
and 10 year top-down central planning. You've even written that when you
were in China you saw them observing the prices of everything (even 64
variants of tea) and you admired that they didn't intervene but just
collected data to understand the markets.

You think that government can be made to act rationally if for example
term limits are implemented in the West.

What you fail to understand is that China's planning is an abject failure.
China is rising only because their people were so undervalued relative to
the rest of the world, not because as you attribute to some brilliance of
Communist planning. It was just time (as you often say about your cycles
model).

The coming Knowledge Revolution is going to shred these top-down planning
paradigms (the globalist agenda is a paradigm of passive capital being
defeated and the rise of the individualized capital in the Knowledge Age).
The people will rise to direct power via the power of decentralized
technologies on the network.

You are entirely missing the real trend at hand. Your mind is still stuck
in your political and high-end money manager connections. All of you are
going to become increasingly irrelevant.

I again refer you to the following threads to bring yourself up to speed
on the fledgling trend at hand:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.msg6078778#msg6078778

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0

Educate yourself by reading carefully the above threads.

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Lately I've posted in roughly 6 threads out of 1000s of threads on this site.

Do you have any rational point to make?

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Subject: Weary of irrational biases
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This will probably be my last communication on these sort of debates,
because I can't convince someone who has an irrational bias and refuses to
be objective and based in fact and analysis.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/22/the-end-goal/

Quote from: Armstrong
REPLY: I would like to see something like that happen.
However, we must keep in mind that we require the crash and burn. Society
moves through waves of Creative Destruction. We must see the system
collapse and that will then set the stage for a rebirth. The object is to
be there when that happens. This will be the moment of truth. Society will
swing either toward more authoritarian or toward real democracy.

We need the true checks and balance of the people divorced from career
politicians. Eliminating direct taxation will eliminate the corruption and
lobbying of politicians to carve out exclusions. Republics are the WORST
form of government for they ALWAYS become the most corrupt. Even a king is
better for he is either a madman or a saint – he cannot be bribed on the
whims of people or chance.

Eliminating direct taxation, which the founders of the US did originally,
it will eliminate the need to hoard cash offshore. Eliminate direct
taxation and you will lower the cost of labor. Eliminate unions that serve
no functional purpose and only promotes higher wages without improving
skills. To get ahead, people have to keep pace with technology or be
outdated in the workforce watching their labor value depreciate. If people
understand the technology cycle they will grasp the idea that they must
increase their value by expanding their skills.

You've observed history and seen that never once has any political system
been stable and they always devolve to Totalitarianism at the end game.
Yet you still come back for more sloppy seconds, thirds, and Nths.

You've observed history and seen that the technologies for global control
and the level of global control have radically increased. Yet you deny the
global hegemony that will result from your idealistic delusion above.

You've observed history and seen that the only escape and freedom has ever
come in the form of a frontier where the oppressed can compete against the
cancer and thus survival of the human race.

Yet now you say we can just burn without a frontier and reform.

You've fucking lost your mind.

Most people will masturbate like this, because they don't have the skills
to work on the information technology frontier so as to provide real
solutions.

You are too vested in the old school, in idealism about political
structure and top-down planning and organization.

You will be swept away by decentralization technology.

End.



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/22/the-age-of-disinformation-hiding-truth-in-plain-sight/

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This is standard operational procedure and it is why I am
very skeptical about conspiracy theories. Trace the origins and you will
find that they are generated as part of a plot to hide in plain view the
truth. Take 911. There are now people who claim that there were no planes
at all and it was all staged.

...

So how do you cover-up what is in plain sight? The oldest trick in the
book is disinformation. You create the controversy centered around the
Twin Towers and exaggerate the claims. The majority will begin to see
through the exaggerations as a conspiracy theory and stop there never
looking further.

Indeed, the truth is in detailed analysis of the material facts rather
than broad-brushed generalizations such as when you Martin refuse to
analyze and accept the detailed factual analysis of the likes of Anthony
Sutton on the existence and manipulations funded by the globalists.

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Cross posting...

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Subject: Weary of irrational biases
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2014 11:53 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>

I don't understand your posts.

What, specifically, is your disagreement with Armstrong?

Go to the end of the Dark Enlightenment and Max Max threads in the Politics & Society forum for more history on my debate with him. Also the thread on designing a perfect society.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.msg6567660#msg6567660

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616197.msg6889554#msg6889554

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365141.msg6496672#msg6496672


Armstrong thinks we can reform politics. I am saying politics always ends up in Totalitarianism. The only thing that has saved mankind every time is a frontier. Before it was geographical escape (e.g. birth of the U.S.A.) and cash (e.g. gold), but now those frontiers are being closed. So we only have crypto-currency (and internet businesses perhaps even anonymously, e.g. programming work,  to escape Totalitarianism) remaining as a frontier.

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May 24, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Articulation of the globalist objective
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 24, 2014 6:01 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/24/banks-manipulating-markets/

Quote from: Armstrong
Then there are those who claim it is the Global-Elitists
who control everything from wars to whatever for some dark sinister
objective THEY REALLY CANNOT ARTICULATE. Between these two extremes lies
the simple truth – it has always been immediate profits trading against
clients. That is standard. Being a major hedge fund manager I speak with
experience, not visions, speculations, and claims.

Liar. I have articulated the globalist motive and objective to you several
times. As I said, every time you write disingenuously, I lose more of the
immense respect I had gained for you. Why can't you rise to respectful
standard of discourse? That is why I resort to frustration words such as
"fuck".

The relatively few number of globalists through their documented web of
ownership as follows:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

Have a motive to capture government and also to prevent competition. You
yourself have written about how only multi-nationals can do business
abroad now and American small businessmen are locked out by the capital
controls put in place by 9/11 and FACHA.

They are consolidating top-down control with a strategy of aiding and
abetting corruption of the nation-state institutions (e.g. Goldman Sachs
hid Greece's financials with derivatives to help worsen their sovereign
debt crisis), which will cause the global population to accede to reform
which will involve globalized institutions for transparency of
nation-states. For example, there will end up one international trade
currency, which the other nation-state currencies will float against. And
you Martin have even advocated this outcome!

One the multi-nationals get their tentacles on these globalized
institutions, they will truly have achieved taxation and government
without representation. We will be effectively ruled from far away and our
nation-state governments will just be figureheads, e.g. like the European
Parliament wherein the European Commission really has all the power.

Just because you can't take the time to weave all the pieces of the puzzle
together and you only want to base your assertions on your limited scope
of what you directly see and hear as a hedge fund manager, doesn't mean
you are correct.

You should know that not sampling some data doesn't make your statistical
conclusions complete.

I am not going to repeat all my prior information which I emailed you
documenting all the support data and puzzle pieces.

If you choose to be ignorant, that is your prerogative. But you are
committing an egregious sin by propagating your bias as fact to a very
important audience.

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May 25, 2014, 08:43:31 AM
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Subject: Example of a pompous idiot
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, May 25, 2014 4:42 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/barclays-gold-manipulation-dr-evil/

Quote from: Armstrong
People attribute systemic manipulation with some sort of
dark sinister goal that runs for decades. Global-Elitists who want to
dominate the world as if this is some James Bond movie or Doctor Evil from
the Austin Powers series. The people behind these conspiracy plots get so
angry at me saying they are wrong. Not that there is no manipulation, just
that it is NOT systemic with long-term goals.

...

These conspiracy-buffs can say I am wrong and there really are these dark
sinister groups who want to dominate the world. They have NOTHING but
speculation to support their claims. I was there. I have had a front row
seat and fought against this trend all along. There is ABSOLUTELY NO such
dark sinister force with long-term goals. This has ALWAYS been show me the
money – NOW! NOT 25 years from now.

Why these conspiracy-buffs insist I am wrong with ZERO experience is
beyond me. The bankers moved from one manipulation to the next. They could
care less what the instrument even was at that time. It was all about
being profitable every year. That’s it – not 50 years down the road. I
remain skeptical of those who say I am wrong and point to undefined groups
with grand designs. This has allowed the bankers to operate in plain view
for I believe they were the very source of those conspiracy theories.

...

The bankers seized control of the Treasury and then used that position to
lobby creating the ability to sell their toxic debt derivatives to
European banks. The memo is floating around the Web dated November 24,
1997. I can confirm this was the strategy since at the time I even owned a
brokerage house I was asked to bailout originally owned by the French
bank. I am fully aware of that change back in 1995 that was maneuvered
through the WTO at the time. This memo was merely allowing derivatives to
be sold around the world exported from NYC. That was phase II after
getting rid of Glass Steagall. This is how things were really done. There
are no grand schemes. It is all about the money here and now – to hell
with the future.

How many times in the past I have challenged Armstrong to answer whether
he is privy to the exact discussions at for example Bilderberg and
Trilateralist group meetings.

Yet he claims he is "there" and knows everything.

I have challenged him to answer why these meetings are not conducted in
public, given that cartels are illegal.

I have asked Armstrong to explain why for example the Rockefeller
foundation has been funding environmentalism bullshit. Why Rockefeller was
involved in the creation of the League of Nations and then the U.N. (he
even provided the location in New York) subsequently the 1972 Convention
of Human Environment.

I have asked him to explain why these globalists were funding the
Communist revolutions as documented by Anthony Sutton's impeccable
research which followed the money trail.

Let's not forget how Rockefeller gained a monopoly with Standard Oil by
gaining influence of regulatory planning and placement of rail lines.
Government capture is always essential for the multi-nationals. Buffet for
example needs regulatory licenses for his Geico insurance business.
Multi-nationals always weave a web of control because it is the best
insurance policy for their continued profits.

Of course these bastards are allowed run amok and not be concerned about
the future. The nation-state financial systems are always a resource to be
exhausted, crashed, and restarted anew. And always it is by their hand of
control that the renewal is formed.

What is the use of debating a pompous idiot? Why should I bother to
construct an elaborate and detailed rebuttal? He would ignore it any way,
as he continues to do.

Follow this idiot at your own peril.

I am done with him.

Bye.

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May 26, 2014, 08:11:15 AM
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong stumbles onto the truth and still can't admit it
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, May 26, 2014 4:09 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/russia-leaks-on-911-oops-didnt-think-of-that-one/

Quote from: Armstrong
Russia is starting to fight back with leaking the
evidence that the USA has worked with terrorists and knew about 911 if not
help the terrorists organize the attack:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=95f_1389438180

The Saudi’s have controlled the terrorists and threatened Russia that
their Olympic Games would be safe only if they agreed to the Saudi terms.
It was the very terrorists being armed by the USA to take down the Syrian
government. The Saudi connection and the USA was exposed with the Syria
attempted invasion.

I reported that on the Benghazi Connection. The reliable story I got from
behind the curtain was that John Christopher Stevens was supplying arms to
the Syrian Rebels – terrorists we hated so much. That is why he was killed
and the US had to step back and cover that up because the truth would
expose the terrorist connection and how they used them for political
purposes. I have stated all along there was an admixture here for it did
not make sense.

...

There is already evidence that this is how government functions all the
time. They point to the rich, but then hunt wires of $3,000. The
multinational companies can keep their money offshore, but individuals
cannot. This is the real world. It is all about money and retaining power.
We do not need private groups. The real culprits are right before your
eyes with the guns and tanks. Why invent undefined secret private groups
behind the scenes who pull their strings. He who has the tanks makes the
rules.

History always argues against these conspiracy theories. It has ALWAYS
been government without a single exception throughout all of history.
Never has some private group overpowered government. It is always
government – look no further. Even if there was some private group, if
they are that powerful, there is NOTHING someone could do so do not vote
and let the real culprits retain power. That seems to be the purpose of
creating sinister shadow groups to protect government and those who run it
inside. Sorry – I just do not trust anyone who advocates such extremes for
they could be doing so for money.


The Bilderbergs and members of the Council on Foreign Relations are the
government dimwit. All political leaders are members, and even Hillary
Clinton admitted the White House always consults with them.

Correct voting has never and will never change the fact that elected
others to make decisions is a power vacuum. Why is it so hard for you to
understand this simple concept which has been proven over and over in
history to be the only case.

Never has it changed. Never has humanity escaped from this power vacuum.
The only solution has always been escape to a frontier.

And yes the multi-nationals are part of that web of power structure that
is above the law, because they are the same people as I showed you
(several times) with the newscientist link.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/25/first-time-in-british-history-3rd-party-wins-welcome-the-rise-in-3rd-parties/

Quote from: Armstrong
This is the political unrest brewing. What will be
interesting is that with so many Eurosceptics, will they FORCE political
change and take the dictatorship AWAY from the European Commission.

Even those in the Bilderberg meetings who once thought a single currency
would end world war are starting to see that the euro is promoting civil
war rather than international war. It is time the rest of us start to wake
up and see the world for what is really going on.

The political unrest will appear to reform the system but in reality the
same people will still be in control.

Farange and Thatcher were not able to stop the power vacuum. The people
will rise up and fall right into the lap of the power structure as you saw
in Ukraine.

The people can't escape from cancer by perpetuating the power vacuum of
collective action. The only escape from a disease is to escape from the
cause of the disease.

VOTING IS THE CAUSE OF THE DISEASE. It is a collective of power, thus a
power vacuum. Why does an animal hunt? Because it must eat. Why does a
bank robber rob banks? Because that is where the money is. When ever there
exists a harvestable resource, it will be harvested.

VOTING transfers power from the individual to the top-down collective.

Only decentralized actions on frontiers are empowering to the individual.

Learn some thermodynamics please!

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May 26, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
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I'm not far away from thoughts that Dark Enlightenment is a doomsday cult.
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I'm not far away from thoughts that Dark Enlightenment is a doomsday cult.

Funny, I have similar feelings about all political parties too! Smiley




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