[ANN] FutureBit Project Apollo: Bringing ASIC Mining Back to the Home Miner!

[jstefanop]

It is reasonably expected that miners should be rewarded with profits for their effort in securing networks. To encourage miners to become mere hobbyists after they have spent substantial amounts of money to acquire mining hardware, is simply disingenuous.

The first priority of any genuine ASIC manufacturer, is to produce mining hardware that will maximise mining profits and provide worthwhile gains for customers.

Just because crypto prices are down has nothing to do with ASIC manufacturers being disingenuous (and I agree that MOST ASIC manufactures have been nothing but disingenuous and greedy in the past year). The best I can do is offer the most efficient hardware possible, at the lowest cost possible, which is what I have done with this product. You seem to think this costs $50 dollars to make and I'm making hundreds of dollars in profit lol. Currently Batch 1 is break even (just the ASICs alone on this cost hundreds FYI).

We can't control crypto prices and the profitability of ASICs, and yea the market sucks right now for Bitcoin/Litecoin ASICs but prices are recovering already as you can see.

Also what kind of Bitcoin/Litecoin network would you like too see?

1,000 large scale centralized farmers dumping coins onto market every day skimming for profits OR

1,000,000 "hobbyists" as you call them all mining on their personal desktop devices earning Litecoins for the price of one lightbulb and holding these coins for the future?

Sorry, but I'm not in this for "profits" I'm in this to encourage as many people as possible to become "hobbyists" and join a new decentralized revolution...not another one centrally controlled by pure greed.

The main point is to NOT to encourage miners to become hobbyists. Instead, focus on creating a highly profitable ASIC miner that can compete with the "large scale centralised farmers". In such a situation, it's likely that there would be 1,000,000+ genuinely profitable miners as opposed to 1,000,000 non-profitable / low-profitable hobbyists who are simply mining for fun or educational value, while spending hard-earned money.

The simple message, and the best thing to do, is to encourage serious ASIC mining by producing highly competitive and highly profitable hardware.

My main focus is to encourage more people to join mining that are not mining or would ever consider it....miners that are not hobbyists wont consider this product nor am I encouraging them to become "hobbyists".

You do understand that profitability has very little to do with ASIC tech at this point. All ASICs have caught up to node tech, and even if I somehow found 100 million to develop a 7nm top of the line scrypt ASIC that would still be ~ .5 watts/MH and you would still be complaining how unprofitable a 2GH 1000 watts miner that costs 2k would be. That all depends on where the coin price is and how profitable the latest tech is.

The Apollo is currently the most efficient scrypt ASIC, and I have produce a miner that is more than competitive with Bitmain and Innosilicon, and offers more features that home miners want. There is lots of value in that, I understand your a large scale farmer and only care about profits, but for someone just buying one or two of these and generating "free" coins while heating their house in the winter find this product a good fit for them.

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[VictorGT]

What are doing farm miners here? This thread is for hobby miners. We support a coin. We are not greedy (only a little  ).

Please go to Bitmain threads if you are a professional miner. Maybe you purchase and L3+?. Good luck.

[CharlieFoxtrot]

One of the requirements is:

At least a 250 watt 12v power supply with a 6 Pin PCIE connector is required.

I could use some help sourcing this. Does anyone have any recommendations or suggestions?

I looked on eBay and there are a lot of power supplies offered.

I did find this one though:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-659193-001-Elite-8200-RP5800-240W-6-Pin-Desktop-Power-Supply/202373513718?hash=item2f1e66c1f6:g:UeIAAOSwhclbT6Fj
Would this work?

Any help would be appreciated.

[crypto_curious]

One of the requirements is:

At least a 250 watt 12v power supply with a 6 Pin PCIE connector is required.

I could use some help sourcing this. Does anyone have any recommendations or suggestions?

I looked on eBay and there are a lot of power supplies offered.

I did find this one though:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-659193-001-Elite-8200-RP5800-240W-6-Pin-Desktop-Power-Supply/202373513718?hash=item2f1e66c1f6:g:UeIAAOSwhclbT6Fj
Would this work?

Any help would be appreciated.

Technically: no, it will not. It's 240Watt and you said yourself 250Watt is needed.
Buy ANY desktop ATX PSU with minimum 250Watt, with at least one 6-pin PCI-E connector.

[VictorGT]

One of the requirements is:

At least a 250 watt 12v power supply with a 6 Pin PCIE connector is required.

I could use some help sourcing this. Does anyone have any recommendations or suggestions?

I looked on eBay and there are a lot of power supplies offered.

I did find this one though:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-659193-001-Elite-8200-RP5800-240W-6-Pin-Desktop-Power-Supply/202373513718?hash=item2f1e66c1f6:g:UeIAAOSwhclbT6Fj
Would this work?

Any help would be appreciated.

Technically: no, it will not. It's 240Watt and you said yourself 250Watt is needed.
Buy ANY desktop ATX PSU with minimum 250Watt, with at least one 6-pin PCI-E connector.

You can power them even with your rig PSU (if watts enough). I plan use them on ECO mode, only 100w.

[CharlieFoxtrot]

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

[jstefanop]

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

[dwood443]

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

Thanks, this will be helpful

[CharlieFoxtrot]

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

That would help a lot. Good looking out for us. Thanks!

[jarvisparvis]

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

Thanks, this will be helpful

Apollo is ordered. Also hoping to get this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Switching-Power-Supply-750W-DPS-750AB-3-A-HSTNS-PD29-643955-101/153066774374?hash=item23a37d9f66:g:VDwAAOSwbzVbKBm4 plus a breakout board.

Should be ok for upto 3 in future.?

[jstefanop]

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

Thanks, this will be helpful

Apollo is ordered. Also hoping to get this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Switching-Power-Supply-750W-DPS-750AB-3-A-HSTNS-PD29-643955-101/153066774374?hash=item23a37d9f66:g:VDwAAOSwbzVbKBm4 plus a breakout board.

Should be ok for upto 3 in future.?

Yea server PSU + breakout board is always a safe bet...youll get really high efficiency and reliable PSU. That could run 3 as long as your not running them all full speed.

[Globalminingcorp]

Ordered one and looking forward to play with this device!

[jstefanop]

Ordered one and looking forward to play with this device!

Pre-Order is almost filled up and most likely ending after this weekend FYI. So last chance to pick one up at pre-order price!

[jarvisparvis]

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Already to rock and roll economically. Bring on October.


Just a note it say 12.4 on the readout presume its the volts will that be fine?

[jstefanop]

[https://ibb.co/cKqnSK][/https://ibb.co/cKqnSK]


Already to rock and roll economically. Bring on October.


Just a note it say 12.4 on the readout presume its the volts will that be fine?

Yea regulator in the miner can handle a pretty wide 12v range.

[jarvisparvis]

Are the 6 pin pcie sockets on the apollo standard size or mini?

[jstefanop]

Are the 6 pin pcie sockets on the apollo standard size or mini?

They are standard GPU type pcie 12v connectors that come with ATX PSUs

[Chicago]

Hello,

    Power to the independent miners.

    Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

    The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

    Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
    You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

    What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

    What's in the image for the controller currently?
    Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

    If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

    I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

    1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
    2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

    Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

[jstefanop]

Hello,

    Power to the independent miners.

    Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

    The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

    Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
    You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

    What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

    What's in the image for the controller currently?
    Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

    If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

    I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

    1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
    2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

    Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Yes this is exactly what I intended to do with this platform. Probably wont make it into the initial image release, but eventual I want to give people the ability to run full nodes and connect to a p2pool for a true decentralized mining ecosystem.

Definitely send me a PM if this is something your interested in, I'm looking for more software devs for the UI side of things.

[shotgun1969]

Hello,

    Power to the independent miners.

    Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

    The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

    Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
    You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

    What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

    What's in the image for the controller currently?
    Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

    If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

    I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

    1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
    2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

    Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Yes this is exactly what I intended to do with this platform. Probably wont make it into the initial image release, but eventual I want to give people the ability to run full nodes and connect to a p2pool for a true decentralized mining ecosystem.

Definitely send me a PM if this is something your interested in, I'm looking for more software devs for the UI side of things.

i was wondering about the same thing.  i am hoping in your web interface we need the full address of the wallet or pool.
ie
http://192.165.0.2:3389
stratum+tcp://bills.pool.com:3389
that would be super if its done that way. thanks

most of the other manufactors get hung up on making you only put a strattum address nothing else.