How to predict whales manipulation

[gabbie2010]

There isn't any price manipulation presently as far as the price of bitcoin is concerned, I believed it is the action of market forces vis-à-vis demand and supply whenever whales enters the market massive bullish or bearish movement is often noticed and observed hence nobody can accurately predict when the whales will pump and dump obviously this is one most difficult aspect of trading bitcoin.

[yitzjoe]

it is difficult to predict how the whale moves because they are inclusive and there are rarely people or bodies that can enter easily in their groups. but what I observed after they were satisfied to do a dump would be the market would recover as soon as possible

[bitfocus]

Whales are so sophisticated no one can even predict any of their move without any insider information.

[coinwizard_]

It depends how much time you can spare. As it is impossible to predict without an inside connection the only way to find out is to continuously monitor the charts. Look out for pump signals or two reasonable dumps, the rest will follow

[Kakmakr]

These must be very tiny whales.   You must be very new to Bitcoin, because a 1% to 5% daily volatility in Bitcoin is nothing strange for us.  

You will know when whales are involved in Bitcoin, because the volatility will be much bigger and faster than this small bump in the price. A lot of these whales work together in a pod, so the volatility will snowball once a pump or a dump is initiated.

Go back and have a look at the daily volatility in Bitcoin and you will see what I mean.  

[Totoff]

When I read all of you, some say that it’s not a whales move and some say it can be...
But for me the most important is to know that at this moment some very big wallet exist and when they move, they can create some dump or pump... so I wonder if there is no way to be informed of these moves to a exchange before ..
Yes it’s certainly stupid for some of you, but when I look back at the market and when I see some correction, I find nothing really interesting to predict a move down or up..

[aditya6997]

Dumping is important for whales. So, have to be beware of the market. This is gambling with the price, either you win or lose. Nothing in between.

[Pursuer]

stop comparing bitcoin with shitcoins and you will be able to predict the market movements realistically and as a result you won't think every price change is a whale manipulation. for instance in the past few days that the rise started it was simply be cause the ETFs were rejected and people knew there is no more bad news to cause a "newbie panic sell" so they started buying back. and additionally the rise is too small to be a manipulation and we need a much bigger rise to at least $9k before we can get out of this inverse bubble first then we can talk about manipulation.

[Totoff]

Interesting your opinion about ETFs so no more bad news so the price rises... but if ETF were accepted the price would have rose also... in fact BTC will go to the moon whatever things can happen around 
sorry for my grammar, I’m not US or English and school is far away from me 

Well, of course I’m quite a newbie in crypto, I’m in bitcoin only for 1year, so can someone tell me what can be the average  of some up or down move in a day .. 100 or 200 $ or 10% - 20% ?

[Indrawan77]

There are few ways to indicate the whale movement, if the price go up or go down deeply without any reason, then there is a chance of whales is manipulating the price, if you see some of tye fud news then the whales are starting their move to lower down the price, the other way is to join the whale group to see which coin they tend to pump or dump

[royalcrypt]

It's very hard to predict the manipulation before it happens even for the so-called market experts. It takes a while to learn how the market works including reading charts and other signals. Although it may not predict market manipulations it can still help you avoid big losses.

[Pursuer]

Interesting your opinion about ETFs so no more bad news so the price rises... but if ETF were accepted the price would have rose also... in fact BTC will go to the moon whatever things can happen around 

in my opinion there is only one thing that matters for price rise and that is adoption. as long as more people are coming in and starting to use bitcoin the price will go up and having a limited supply helps with that rise too. but we still need the increased adoption.  ETF isn't just some magic thing that can increase the adoption or prevent it which is why I believe its approval or rejection won't change much.

Well, of course I’m quite a newbie in crypto, I’m in bitcoin only for 1year, so can someone tell me what can be the average  of some up or down move in a day .. 100 or 200 $ or 10% - 20% ?

take a look at some charts and you should get a better answer.
the change can be anything and we have had huge changes in the past. but usually it is not bigger than 10% per day which can be considered as a small change since bitcoin is already volatile. amount doesn't matter ($100, $200) because it is relative. for example if price is $10 and it goes up $100 that is a gigantic rise but if price is $100,000 and goes up $100 that is nothing because the first one is 1000% rise and the second one is 0.1% rise.

[trimulia]

No one can detect whales manipulation because its look like real trading dumped from bad news cryptocurrency

[Andrey13101991]

I'm sure whales manipulate the market. And it will end when most people sell their coins.

[oppasong]

you should be patient with them, because they are screwing bitcoin at the moment, and this is one of their actions that makes you confused.

[zolfa]

we are always under the room, we are not part of people who have control over the crypto market, so, we just follow the waves.

take advantage of the market situation to get profit. when you are lost from market analysis, the whale will make you die.

[doolittle]

Today again some whales came back on BTC ..
Does anyone have some suggestion to be alerted before this kind of manipulation ... I’m really fed up to see some big red or green candles without any reason ..
I’m always in or out when it arrives ...

I think the bears are very tired. They can not break the level of 6000, and so now will move up. Bitcoin will now fluctuate at 7000, if it can overcome 8000, then we go up. Down is definitely not to be.

[Cecilve]

Today again some whales came back on BTC ..
Does anyone have some suggestion to be alerted before this kind of manipulation ... I’m really fed up to see some big red or green candles without any reason ..
I’m always in or out when it arrives ...

There is no way you can predicted and stay alerted before somethign like this happens. The best thing you can do is just to feel the current market situation and do a lot of research.

[Gravityle]

Can we really avert that,  though their manipulation is becoming frustrating. I think they work hands in hands. The only solution I can think of is for the cryptocurrency to be regulated. If we have a regulated bodies govern the affairs of cryptocurrency systems this can be reduce gradually.

They want you to feel frustrated and sell your coins in the end. That's why it's so important to stay calm and wait whatever happens. Don't let them get your cheap coins.

[hanxinvwang]

Whenever the market rises or falls rapidly, it means that a lot of money is running, which is probably caused by whales!