I've just awarded this guy with 3 merits

[athanz88]

I love how the internet is mainly used for flaming at people that played a game better than oneself, and here we are on bitcointalk and discuss how some users plagiarise and put them on the wall of shame like they were cheating in their phd dissertation 

Oh wow what a thoughtful reply from you, comparing flaming etc with some plagiarizing stuff. So do you think it is okay to plagiarize things even it is on internet? Really? Do you think people who make the original content does not put time and work to make one?

[DdmrDdmr]

These sort of situations kind of build-up on suspicion and procedure when it comes to meriting someone for the first time, especially if the account is a newbie that creates a decent post right from the start (for there is no posting history to compare with, nor has the account been merited by anyone else).

I’ve just come across an OP of a person with a decent informative post, who claims to be the author of the content that he first published on another platform. Since the account is a newbie, I tried to google search stuff for around 10-15 minutes, and could not find anything weird. My concern is really whether the person is really who he says he is (not nominally, I’m just concerned with the original text), and is really the author of the OP and content, and not a case of someone grabbing somebody else’s identity and pretending to be him. I’ve got a feeling the person is legit, but until there is a further posting track I cannot say for sure.

This in any case a sad paradox: I refrain from meriting a good post because it is a decent post from a newbie and it is the first post he publishes (The evolution of Distributed Ledger Technologies or Blockchain - Part 1 of 4 ). I’ll try to keep an eye out to see how this account's posting evolves…


Same goes for another person on my local forum: he posted a crappy content, I told him that he needs to elaborate and build an opinion in his post and become more informative in the process. Now he's gone and modified his OP doing just that, and therefore I've got homework to do to decide it the new content is really his...

[Helana]

This is another plagiarist. Source: https://medium.com/@GeorgeTProfit/the-evolution-of-distributed-ledger-technologies-part-1-36162792105

Even when he claims to be the same person, this is quite strange that the "author" doesn't provide the link to the medium article. Whereas he es or not, maybe this is better to wait and see if the guy generates some original Bitcointalk content for comparison purposes

[DdmrDdmr]

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This is another plagiarist. Source: https://medium.com/@GeorgeTProfit/the-evolution-of-distributed-ledger-technologies-part-1-36162792105

... or not .. same account name as the author’s name on medium plus in his OP he states the source and that he is the same person... it’s not that easy to discern.

[Helana]

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This is another plagiarist. Source: https://medium.com/@GeorgeTProfit/the-evolution-of-distributed-ledger-technologies-part-1-36162792105

... or not .. same account name as the author’s name on medium plus in his OP he states the source and that he is the same person... it’s not that easy to discern.

Nop is not. That's why maybe this is better to wait and see another author's publications in here in order to be able to compare them.
What is still suspicious to me it that he didn't provide this medium link, the copied-pasted one, but the original fonts of his knowledge.

Anyway, after what happened in this very thread, I think this is normal to feel quite "suspicious" before meriting something that actually looks "too great to be the truth".

[khaled0111]

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.

You found that this person dont deserve the merit points you gave to him, because of this post other members gave him some points, but you can do nothing to cancel your act!!! This is why I believe the merit system should be reviewed.

[cabalism13]

This is why I believe the merit system should be reviewed.

Everyone knows that the system is not quite that perfect and for the  people who has concerns about the system already said that many times,... but the fact that theymos can't do anything right now, I guess we just have to adjust ourselves from this kind of abuse/problem.

[clear cookies]

I also noticed this one of his post.

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The term mining itself is anglicism and comes from the word Mine (mining). Speaking of difficult words, this process represents activities the maintenance work of the network by closing and creating blocks in the Blockchain using computing power. The miner uses the power of iron to perform special calculations to find the digital signature (hash), which will close the block. A miner who "finds" a digital signature receives a reward in the form of 1 unit of cryptocurrency. Mining supports the network, ensures its protection from duplicate transactions.

Soure link: http://chinesecoinnews.com/what-is-mining/

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Impose the appropriate punishment for him, to aware and to fear others to follow his activites.

[xtraelv]

I also noticed this one of his post.

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The term mining itself is anglicism and comes from the word Mine (mining). Speaking of difficult words, this process represents activities the maintenance work of the network by closing and creating blocks in the Blockchain using computing power. The miner uses the power of iron to perform special calculations to find the digital signature (hash), which will close the block. A miner who "finds" a digital signature receives a reward in the form of 1 unit of cryptocurrency. Mining supports the network, ensures its protection from duplicate transactions.

Soure link: http://chinesecoinnews.com/what-is-mining/

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Impose the appropriate punishment for him, to aware and to fear others to follow his activites.

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....and they are gone...





https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2154797;sa=showPosts

[Jet Cash]

You found that this person dont deserve the merit points you gave to him, because of this post other members gave him some points, but you can do nothing to cancel your act!!! This is why I believe the merit system should be reviewed.

Well the award and the thread has generated some great discussions, and it has enabled a few others to earn some merits. I'll justify my award by looking at the good that came from my generosity.

ps. Talk Merit says - I hope the bugger gets banned as a result.

[RivAngE]

You found that this person dont deserve the merit points you gave to him, because of this post other members gave him some points, but you can do nothing to cancel your act!!! This is why I believe the merit system should be reviewed.

Well the award and the thread has generated some great discussions, and it has enabled a few others to earn some merits. I'll justify my award by looking at the good that came from my generosity.

ps. Talk Merit says - I hope the bugger gets banned as a result.

Shouldn't you edit your first post though? I was also ready to give him a merit but then I noticed the answers bellow your first post... most people probably read the first post and maybe the last page though!

And hey, one more good that came out of it: I learnt the meaning of the word "plagiarist"! Even though I'm not a native English speaker, it's very rare for me to encounter English words I didn't know. Thanks for that!

[Jet Cash]

Shouldn't you edit your first post though? I was also ready to give him a merit but then I noticed the answers bellow your first post... most people probably read the first post and maybe the last page though!

Good suggestion - I've done that.

[Kate Beckett]

I love how the internet is mainly used for flaming at people that played a game better than oneself, and here we are on bitcointalk and discuss how some users plagiarise and put them on the wall of shame like they were cheating in their phd dissertation 

Oh wow what a thoughtful reply from you, comparing flaming etc with some plagiarizing stuff. So do you think it is okay to plagiarize things even it is on internet? Really? Do you think people who make the original content does not put time and work to make one?

I fully support you. Plagiarism remains plagiarizm, no matter in what environment it was discovered. The Internet is the same field for the utterance and argumentation of one's thoughts, like everything else. You can`t be guided by other rules just because plagiarism has been seen in the Internet environment. People are really trying to convey their ideas in original way, and it can`t be unpunished that someone copies them and issues them for their own. Because of this the forum is filled with spam and shit posts.

[clear cookies]

I see you are pretty inspired and hard work for the bitcointalk members who are performing posts.
By giving a truly decent rank, I am very impressed with you even though I am new here, I am sure and try my best to get achievements like yours.
You are a wise and generous VOM member.
Greetings and compact always succes Jet Chast.

Yes, i agree with what you said about jet cash.
But i don't think if you read the whole conversation here.
Have you read the whole thread?

[finaleshot2016]

a new born quality poster.

 I saw many profiles that has many posts, activities and quality contents but doesn't received any single merits from the highers.

I wish there's a Jet Cash in our local board, to provide and sustain the ability of those new rising members. If I have many sMerits and an authority to be a source, I'll not hesitate to give those profiles who put an "effort" on certain things like sharing new information that helps fellow member.

I love how the internet is mainly used for flaming at people that played a game better than oneself, and here we are on bitcointalk and discuss how some users plagiarise and put them on the wall of shame like they were cheating in their phd dissertation  

Oh wow what a thoughtful reply from you, comparing flaming etc with some plagiarizing stuff. So do you think it is okay to plagiarize things even it is on internet? Really? Do you think people who make the original content does not put time and work to make one?

I fully support you. Plagiarism remains plagiarizm, no matter in what environment it was discovered. The Internet is the same field for the utterance and argumentation of one's thoughts, like everything else. You can`t be guided by other rules just because plagiarism has been seen in the Internet environment. People are really trying to convey their ideas in original way, and it can`t be unpunished that someone copies them and issues them for their own. Because of this the forum is filled with spam and shit posts.

As much as possible, avoid copying contents from the internet but it's okay to make it as a basis for your own topic. Well, copying contents from the internet and indicating the source of it is considered as a shitposting for me. Do you think it's really hard to provide your own statements/opinion? definitely not!

[Jet Cash]

You see that is the problem. This isn't a forum with "average pay". It is a forum that is tolerant enough to allow members to earn money, and most of them are taking the piss. Well it's time to "piss off" for them in my opinion.

[Helana]

You see that is the problem. This isn't a forum with "average pay". It is a forum that is tolerant enough to allow members to earn money, and most of them are taking the piss. Well it's time to "piss off" for them in my opinion.

The thread is apparently getting full of copy-pasters. You have a new one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4997523.msg45303511#msg45303511
This answer has been directly plagiarized from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

I can't understand that. This user doesn't seem like the typical spammer and, yet, there he goes with his plagiarized quote.

EDIT: i've reported it, and even when my reports appear with a 100% of accuracy, all my reported posts are still in there. That's awkward.

[Branko]

You see that is the problem. This isn't a forum with "average pay". It is a forum that is tolerant enough to allow members to earn money, and most of them are taking the piss. Well it's time to "piss off" for them in my opinion.

The thread is apparently getting full of copy-pasters. You have a new one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4997523.msg45303511#msg45303511
This answer has been directly plagiarized from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

I can't understand that. This user doesn't seem like the typical spammer and, yet, there he goes with his plagiarized quote.

EDIT: i've reported it, and even when my reports appear with a 100% of accuracy, all my reported posts are still in there. That's awkward.

What if he's also author of wiki article?

[Jet Cash]

What if he's also author of wiki article?

Then he needs to state that, and to provide a link.

[hilariousetc]

Theymos, so when are you going to remove signatures from Juniors and/or make them achieve some sort of merit to become one? This would have probably stopped this guy from earning anything. Newbies and Junior Members should not be able to get paid for copy and pasting.  If you can't earn some minimal amount of merit then you don't deserve be able to earn here.

Inasmuch as am tempted to agree with you on this, I feel you are being too hard on lower ranked members here. Am sure many of the big guys here wouldn't have gotten to where they are now if the merit system was in place when they were newbies. Secondly, your submission lacks the sense of motivation for newcomers. The average pay for Sr.member to Jr.member is 8/1, this is fine and a sort of commensurable for all except those who have huge appetite for greed. Finally, majority of the people here started from what you guys might call "shitposts" before they learnt and became acquainted with the requirements of this forum. So I suggest you steer a middle course in your disposition.  

No. We're not being hard enough. Any shitposter like you can get paid here as a junior with no effort and that's the problem. And I don't know what you mean by 'big guys' but if you can't get merit then you shouldn't be able to earn here. You've been here nearly a year and you've got a grand total of zero merit. Well done. I've received more merit today then you have in a year. You should't be getting paid for the lazy crap that you make and if you had to actually put some effort into earn here I'm sure you would actually try harder. But you don't need to. Neither do all the other Newbies and Junior Members here that sign up in their thousands and that's why this needs to change and signatures need to be removed. If you can't get ten merit to have a signature then you don't deserve to be able to earn here.