Bitcoin Forum
April 16, 2024, 09:25:17 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 26.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: I've just awarded this guy with 3 merits  (Read 2846 times)
Jet Cash (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 2446


https://JetCash.com


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 04:26:39 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2018, 09:51:50 AM by Jet Cash
 #1

[Post update]
Unfortunately it has been discovered that this member created his post by translating part of a Russian article published by someone else.
[/ end update]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2154797;sa=showPosts

I've looked through his post history, and I'm surprised that he has made 80 posts, and not received a single merit until I awarded them. I'm tempted to go through his posts and give him a load more, but I still feel that one should spread merits around rather than dumping them on one person.

The real reason for starting this thread is to highlight the fact that his post had been lost in the swamp, and I think that we should do something to avoid losing these members. Maybe we should have a rising stars list. Smiley

Offgrid campers allow you to enjoy life and preserve your health and wealth.
Save old Cars - my project to save old cars from scrapage schemes, and to reduce the sale of new cars.
My new Bitcoin transfer address is - bc1q9gtz8e40en6glgxwk4eujuau2fk5wxrprs6fys
Bitcoin mining is now a specialized and very risky industry, just like gold mining. Amateur miners are unlikely to make much money, and may even lose money. Bitcoin is much more than just mining, though!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
Veleor
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1653


Rêlêå§ê ¥ðµr MïñÐ


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 04:35:28 PM
Merited by Don Pedro Dinero (1), Taki (1), Piggy (1)
 #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2154797;sa=showPosts

I've looked through his post history, and I'm surprised that he has made 80 posts, and not received a single merit until I awarded them. I'm tempted to go through his posts and give him a load more, but I still feel that one should spread merits around rather than dumping them on one person.

The real reason for starting this thread is to highlight the fact that his post had been lost in the swamp, and I think that we should do something to avoid losing these members. Maybe we should have a rising stars list. Smiley


He is a plagiarist

Copy
Bitcoin is the world's first decentralized digital cryptocurrency. The Bitcoin network (BTC) appeared in 2009. This currency is fundamentally different from all previously created electronic currencies and payment systems. It is not tied to any physical assets or" official " Fiat currencies, and the price of the BTC digital coin is regulated exclusively by market demand and supply, i.e. there is what value people invest in it, similar to gold for example.

Bitcoin has a significant similarity with gold — limited stock and total quantity. In the case of bitcoin, its number is strictly limited to 21 000 000. And this figure does not take into account all the lost wallets with BTC tokens lying on them, before this happened often because users carelessly approached the correct storage of the crypto currency on bitcoin wallets, due to the fact that the value of coins at that time was not significant.

 Thus, Bitcoin is a global payment system without emission and inflation, through which it is possible to carry out operations with this currency. Its main difference from traditional payment systems is that the Bitcoin network has no control and processing center — all operations take place exclusively in the network of equal clients without intermediaries (peer to peer network, peer-to-peer network).
(Archive: http://archive.li/nInYR#selection-1791.0-1791.110)


Original
https://newsdealingdali.com/bitcoin/
Helana
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 80
Merit: 70


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
 #3

Yep, the guy seems to have some good posting behaviour activity and yet no merits received. Maybe this is happening due to his board selection, for his writings are mostly on Economics and Trading discussion ones.
Anyway, good catch, JC. The P&S initiative seems to be having some good results. I've come to see this one too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4996754.0
The guy looks like being encouraged by your previous B&H post and he has made an effort there, even when his previous posting history wasn't too nice. I've checked both for plagiarism and they are clear.

So nice accomplish, JC!! You are absolutely encouraging the people here.

EDIT:

He is a plagiarist

AUCH.he was a plagiarist!!!



Jet Cash (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 2446


https://JetCash.com


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 04:39:50 PM
 #4

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.

Offgrid campers allow you to enjoy life and preserve your health and wealth.
Save old Cars - my project to save old cars from scrapage schemes, and to reduce the sale of new cars.
My new Bitcoin transfer address is - bc1q9gtz8e40en6glgxwk4eujuau2fk5wxrprs6fys
TryNinja
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2800
Merit: 6952


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 04:40:56 PM
 #5

Edit: and looks like he is plagiarist... sad, but expected from someone who only created an account here to join signature campaigns and bounties.



Yes, his post history is considerably better (but still not enough) than the average member of this forum. Whoever, there are a few things I dislike about him.

1. His posts are ok. A lot better than most you will find in the board he posts the most. But still, he is making a lot of them in now Spam Mega Threads, which is why he didn't get any merit so far. Most of his posts seem to be well developed (at least more than the average post in SMT's), which means that he thought/researched a bit before doing them. But I didn't see anything special about them.

Examples:

Montero is a cryptocurrency aimed at the safety of personal data using the CryptoNote Protocol. Monero can be put on a par with such coins as Dash, AnonCoin and LibertyCoin – all of them are fighting for maximum anonymity of transactions.
CryptoNote represents a unique code and is not a fork of bitcoin. CryptoNote uses ring signatures to hide personal data along with untraceable transactions, which is achieved by using one-time keys for each individual transaction.
CryptoNote should not be confused with CoinJoin. Although both technologies are designed to preserve user anonymity, these are two completely different implementations.
This coin is worthy of attention and certainly you can invest in it.
His post in the thread "Is Monero a Good Investment" is okayish. But he posted it on page 46 of a now infested SMT. Did he really need to write this post? Let's be real. No one is going to read his post and I'm pretty sure at least a few users already explained what's the big deal with Monero in one of the previous 45 pages.

My top 5 altcoins that are worth to keep the year and they will bring you a huge profit
1. Wanchain (Blockchain)
Wanchain aims to create a new distributed financial infrastructure by connecting various blockchain networks together to exchange value.
2. Network Ontologies (Blockchain Services )
Ontology Network is a network of the blockchain / distributed ledger, which brings together distributed authentication, data exchange, cooperation, data, protocols, procedures, community, certification and various industry modules
3. Fusion (Blockchain)
Fusion is a public blockchain dedicated to creating an open cryptofinancial platform, providing cross-chain, cross and cross-source data for smart contracts.
4. MatrixChain (Blockchain)
MATRIX is an open source blockchain platform that supports smart contracts and machine learning services. Thanks to its infrastructure, recreated using artificial intelligence (AI) techniques, MATRIX revolutionizes the user experience of smart contracts, making the whole process faster, easier and safer
5. EOS (Blockchain)
The most powerful infrastructure for Decentralized applications
His post in the thread "Top 5 altcoin for longterm" on page 85 of a now infested SMT.

And the worst part (IMO) is that this is his first post:

Thread: Can newbie do signature campaigns?
After what time can I participate in the signature company tell me? Does anyone have a link to the table by the time they are in each rank?
He's not here for the right reasons.

And there are a few more like those. Again: he looks considerably better than the average user that just spams nonsenses and should be nuked. But I wouldn't say this is the kind of user the forum needs.

.
.HUGE.
▄██████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄███████████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████▌██▌▐██▐██▐████▄███
████▐██▐████▌██▌██▌██▌██
█████▀███▀███▀▐██▐██▐█████

▀█████████████████████████▀

▀███████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████▀

▀██████████▀▀
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
CASINSPORTSBOOK
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
Don Pedro Dinero
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1491


The first decentralized crypto betting platform


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 04:41:25 PM
 #6

He is a plagiarist

I’ve looked through his first 7-8 posts in case he was plagiarizing everything, but it doesn’t seem so. However, he has copy-pasted that one and must be punished. I will report it just in case you didn’t.

Helana
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 80
Merit: 70


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 04:41:50 PM
 #7

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.

Yep, me too, I've checked it and seems pretty clear. Sad to see that the guy has plagiarized content before.
Reported, good catch, @veleor
hilariousetc
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2758
Merit: 3025


Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 04:44:35 PM
Merited by Foxpup (4)
 #8

Ha, I was just about to say that those posts are possibly copied from somewhere. This is another big issue and what's colossally wrong with this forum and shows you what a sad state of affairs it is. Often when I'm going through threads and and I actually see a post from someone putting some thought and effort into them they stand out like a sore thumb amongst all the spam and one liners, but I have to google them to see if they're plagiarised and sadly probably 7 or 8 times out of ten they are.

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.

If you see someone actually writing worthwhile posts here just google a sentence or two of it. Such a shame that this is what has become of this place.

Theymos, so when are you going to remove signatures from Juniors and/or make them achieve some sort of merit to become one? This would have probably stopped this guy from earning anything. Newbies and Junior Members should not be able to get paid for copy and pasting.  If you can't earn some minimal amount of merit then you don't deserve be able to earn here.

█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
The Sceptical Chymist
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3304
Merit: 6787


Cashback 15%


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 04:45:05 PM
 #9

I agree that he puts more effort into his posts than the average sig campaign participant, and his English is well above the level most of those people operate at--but he's obviously not above cranking out the typical shitposter bitcointalk boilerplate:

Yes, today crypto-currency exchanges, as well as the digital tokens themselves are becoming more and more every day, and it is impossible to control it, because this market does not yet have laws and regulations.

But you're right, JC.  His posts did pretty much get missed.  Not surprising, however.  Most of those were made in Economics and Trading Discussion, where there are tons of shitposts and not a lot of merit being given.  I'll take a closer look through his history and I'll probably give him the 1 sMerit I have.

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.
Oh FFS.  That will teach me to not read the entire thread before acting.  I gave him a merit for one of his posts.  That's too bad.

.
.HUGE.
▄██████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄███████████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████▌██▌▐██▐██▐████▄███
████▐██▐████▌██▌██▌██▌██
█████▀███▀███▀▐██▐██▐█████

▀█████████████████████████▀

▀███████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████▀

▀██████████▀▀
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
CASINSPORTSBOOK
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
Helana
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 80
Merit: 70


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 04:45:48 PM
 #10

Ha, I was just about to say that those posts are possibly copied from somewhere. This is another big issue and what's colossally wrong with this forum and shows you what a sad state of affairs it is. Often when I'm going through threads and and I actually see a post from someone putting some thought and effort into them they stand out like a sore thumb amongst all the spam and one liners, but I have to google them to see if they're plagiarised and sadly probably 7 or 8 times out of ten they are.

Maybe quite off-topic, but what do you think about this site? https://www.quetext.com/

This is for plagiarism search purposes.
Jet Cash (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 2446


https://JetCash.com


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 04:53:02 PM
 #11

The checker I tend to use is Search Engine Reports-
https://searchenginereports.net/plagiarism-checker/

Offgrid campers allow you to enjoy life and preserve your health and wealth.
Save old Cars - my project to save old cars from scrapage schemes, and to reduce the sale of new cars.
My new Bitcoin transfer address is - bc1q9gtz8e40en6glgxwk4eujuau2fk5wxrprs6fys
TheBeardedBaby
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2184
Merit: 3134


₿uy / $ell


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
 #12

 
~
He is a plagiarist
~
Faith in the humanity lost again.

If one newbie post is really good, then it's plagiarism.
Now the hompgraphs doesn't help them anymore so it's easy to catch them.

Don Pedro Dinero
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1491


The first decentralized crypto betting platform


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 05:00:59 PM
 #13

That will teach me to not read the entire thread before acting.  I gave him a merit for one of his posts.  That's too bad.

I suppose you meant what you say but without the word highlighted (bolded).

The problem is, this guy is Russian, or something, I can't assure it 100%:

Зoлoтo yжe cyщecтвyeт 1000 лeт и eщe пpocyщecтвyют кaк минимyм cтoлькo жe. Биткoин cyщecтвyeт 9 лeт и пoкa нeизвecтнo cкoлькo этo цифpoвoe зoлoтo пpoживeт. Дa y нeгo ecть oпpeдeлeнный пoтeнциaл для pocтa и в цeнe oн yжe пpeвocxoдит зoлoтo. Ho этo нecpaвнимo дpyг c дpyгoм пoэтoмy этo coвepшeннo paзныe вeщи. Зoлoтo ни кyдa нe дeнeтcя oнo кaк и paньшe бyдeт дpaгoцeнным мeтaллoм, a биткoин ocтaнeтcя тexнoлoгиeй зa кoтopyю плaтят дeньги.

If your mother tongue is not English but you have a good English level, you can copy-paste paragraphs written in other languages, using a translator and then revising it to make it sound natural, so he might have copied more paragraphs used in his posts.

Helana
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 80
Merit: 70


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 05:02:26 PM
Merited by Jet Cash (1)
 #14


If one newbie post is really good, then it's plagiarism.
Now the hompgraphs doesn't help them anymore so it's easy to catch them.

Well, do not generalize, but you are right somehow. Even when, by checking some good newbies or jr' s post, you can find a lot of plagiarism,  I'm a newbie too, so I can't just lose faith completely.

The second post that JC encouraged to be created seems legit enough. This one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4996754.0

I've checked for plagiarism and seems pretty legit. But, taking a look at his/her profile, mostly he/she has bounties reports. Now, due to this post from JC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4990682.0  the guy seems to be encouraged to create the new one in the P&S board, so, even when his initial purpose in here is to make some bucks in bounties, do you think that this guy deserves merits for the post he worked in? I ask it because I don' t longer know what to think about that, honestly.

Encouraging people by offering merits can be a good exercise because it makes the people work harder. But, on the other hand, meriting a guy whose only interest seems to be focused on earning some money in here, feels pretty rare.
What are your thoughts on that?
The Cryptovator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2212
Merit: 2169


Need PR/CMC & CG? TG @The_Cryptovator


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 05:10:45 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2018, 05:25:12 PM by Coolcryptovator
 #15

Not only that guy, many people unable to earn merit due to posting on mega thread. Although someone make quality post on mega thread no merit source or reputed member's will visit it. So there is very low chance to earn merit. On the other hand, after joined this forum maximum people's become busy with bounty rest are busy with increase activity. However very low people think about merit from beginnings. Most of them just think about earning money though it's not wrong. But everywhere need skill for earn in the world. So this forum isn't different. A person can not be equal from all side. Whatever we have skill we should share around the forum. Earn knowledge and distribute it. So I believe they will earn merit automatically. No need begging or asking someone for help. It's true that really not easy to earn merit. But it's not impossible.

Edited;
The problem isn't making money in this forum, but the way that you make the money.

Strongly agree with this point. To be honest more than 90% members are earning from this forum. But the way id different each other.

.BEST..CHANGE.███████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
███████████████
..BUY/ SELL CRYPTO..
Don Pedro Dinero
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1491


The first decentralized crypto betting platform


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 05:11:21 PM
 #16

Encouraging people by offering merits can be a good exercise because it makes the people work harder. But, on the other hand, meriting a guy whose only interest seems to be focused on earning some money in here, feels pretty rare.
What are your thoughts on that?

If I hadn’t seen that he is copy-pasting, I would have answered that we can’t be sure his only interest is making money. After all, for many of us making money is an extra incentive. So merits should be given according to the quality of a particular post, but now that we know he’s copy-pasted once, and we can’t be sure if he’s copy-pasted from another language, I think no more merits should be given to him.

Jet Cash (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 2446


https://JetCash.com


View Profile WWW
September 02, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
 #17

The problem isn't making money in this forum, but the way that you make the money.

Offgrid campers allow you to enjoy life and preserve your health and wealth.
Save old Cars - my project to save old cars from scrapage schemes, and to reduce the sale of new cars.
My new Bitcoin transfer address is - bc1q9gtz8e40en6glgxwk4eujuau2fk5wxrprs6fys
Helana
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 80
Merit: 70


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 05:22:45 PM
 #18



If I hadn’t seen that he is copy-pasting, I would have answered that we can’t be sure his only interest is making money. After all, for many of us making money is an extra incentive. So merits should be given according to the quality of a particular post, but now that we know he’s copy-pasted once, and we can’t be sure if he’s copy-pasted from another language, I think no more merits should be given to him.

Thanks for your answer. I think that somehow, one tends to have more careful about rewarding someone when all the other posts in his/her posting history are about making money. Even though making money as the primordial goal doesn't need to be an influence to reward a good post, maybe this is something to have under consideration. I mean: if the posting behaviour is not the best in general, is good to think twice and check one surprisingly good one before meriting it.

The problem isn't making money in this forum, but the way that you make the money.

Absolutely agree.
vphasitha01
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 196
Merit: 172


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 05:30:41 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2018, 06:15:48 PM by vphasitha01
 #19

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.
Hey JC don't you think that is enough for Merit the post or do we need to do the researchs for before Meriting a post. Because the post you have been Merited is not plagarised one and you're not Meriting the user but that perticular post.

But at the end of the day, the lesson we all can learn from this is we shouldn't vouch for others unless we absolutely sure.

Edit - he is a plagarism artist. Where is the Global Mods?

Newbies and Junior Members should not be able to get paid for copy and pasting. If you can't earn some minimal amount of merit then you don't deserve be able to earn here.
Hoping that minimal amount is more than 4 Merits Cheesy
xtraelv
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924


฿ear ride on the rainbow slide


View Profile
September 02, 2018, 05:38:13 PM
Merited by DdmrDdmr (1), Piggy (1)
 #20

Oh dear, that will teach me to jump to conclusions without doing enough research. I only checked the post I merited.

Your merited post is plagiarized as well.

Electric cars innovation-but it will not take root in our world and this is a huge number of reasons.
The fact is that at the current level of development of science, industry, technology, electric cars create problems much more than solve. So, if the US completely abandons cars with gasoline or diesel engines, the electricity produced by the country simply will not be enough to charge all electric vehicles. Only 79% of vehicles can be charged per night. At the same time, the standard charging of electric vehicles is quite long and takes up to 8 hours, which creates additional inconveniences.

At the same time, 60% of all energy produced in the world is accounted for by "dirty" resources — coal, oil, gas. To increase the volume of electricity, it is necessary to increase the number of power plants, which means that local pollution near energy facilities will only increase. And still it is impossible to forget that on utilization of the electric cars which have served the technically difficult accumulators also the mad amount of the electric power will be spent, and the enterprises on their destruction a priori will be very "dirty" from the ecological point of view. Trucks also at the moment can not give up diesel engines — electric traction is simply not enough to bring the car in motion.
In addition, we must not forget that electric cars are not only more expensive than traditional vehicles, but also have a smaller power reserve, require special infrastructure for charging batteries — all these factors greatly affect the choice of customers when buying a car. Repair of electric vehicles is also a completely new industry. Persuading buyers to purchase such a vehicle can be difficult, even with government propaganda and support. And the largest automakers controlling the world market today are not ready to fall completely into the arms of the "green". After all, for them, the rejection of gasoline threatens to abandon the established schemes of production, promotion and sales of cars and the need to create a completely new industry — electric vehicle construction.


Quote
The fact is that at the current level of development of science, industry, technology, electric cars create problems much more than they solve. So, if the US completely abandons cars with gasoline or diesel engines, the country's electricity is simply not enough to charge all electric vehicles. Over night, you can only charge 79% of vehicles. At the same time, the standard charging of electric vehicles is quite long and takes up to 8 hours, which creates additional inconvenience.

At the same time, 60% of the world's energy is generated by "dirty" resources - coal, oil, gas. To increase the amount of electricity, it is necessary to increase the number of power plants, which means that local pollution near energy facilities will only increase. And one should not forget that electric energy will be spent on recycling of electric vehicles that have served technically complicated batteries , and the enterprises for their destruction will be a priori "very dirty" from the ecological point of view. Trucks at the moment can not abandon diesel engines - electric traction is simply not enough to drive the car.

In addition, we must not forget that electric cars are not only more expensive than traditional vehicles, but they also have a smaller power reserve, they require a special infrastructure for charging batteries - all these factors greatly influence the choice of customers when buying cars. Repair of electric vehicles is also a completely new industry. Convincing buyers to acquire such a vehicle can be quite difficult, even despite state propaganda and support. And the largest automakers controlling the world market are not ready to fall completely into the embrace of the "green".
After all, for them, the refusal of gasoline threatens to abandon the established schemes of production, promotion and sales of cars and the need to create a completely new industry - electromobility.


Quote
Дeлo в тoм, чтo пpи нынeшнeм ypoвнe paзвития нayки, пpoмышлeннocти, тexнoлoгий, элeктpoкapы coздaют пpoблeм гopaздo бoльшe, чeм peшaют. Taк, ecли CШA пoлнocтью oткaжeтcя oт aвтoмoбилeй c бeнзинoвыми либo дизeльными двигaтeлями, выpaбaтывaeмoгo cтpaнoй элeктpичecтвa пpocтo нe xвaтит для зapядки вcex элeктpoмoбилeй. Зa нoчь мoжнo бyдeт зapядить тoлькo 79% тpaнcпopтныx cpeдcтв. Пpи этoм cтaндapтнaя зapядкa элeктpoмoбилeй дoвoльнo длитeльнa и зaнимaeт дo 8 чacoв, чтo coздaeт дoпoлнитeльныe нeyдoбcтвa.

Пpи этoм 60% вceй выpaбaтывaeмoй энepгии в миpe пpиxoдитcя нa «гpязныe» pecypcы — yгoль, нeфть, гaз. Чтoбы yвeличить oбъeмы элeктpoэнepгии, пpиxoдитcя yвeличить кoличecтвo элeктpocтaнций, a этo знaчит, чтo лoкaльнoe зaгpязнeниe вoзлe oбъeктoв энepгeтики тoлькo пoвыcитcя. И eщe нeльзя зaбывaть o тoм, чтo нa yтилизaцию oтcлyжившиx cвoe тexничecки cлoжныx aккyмyлятopoв элeктpoмoбилeй тaк жe бyдeт тpaтитcя бeшeнoe кoличecтвo элeктpoэнepгии, a caми пpeдпpиятия пo иx yничтoжeнию aпpиopи бyдyт oчeнь «гpязными» c экoлoгичecкoй тoчки зpeния. Гpyзoвыe aвтoмoбили жe нa дaнный мoмeнт нe мoгyт oткaзaтьcя oт дизeльныx мoтopoв — элeктpичecкoй тяги пpocтo нe xвaтит, чтoбы пpивecти aвтo в движeниe
Кpoмe тoгo, нeльзя зaбывaть, чтo элeктpoкapы нe тoлькo дopoжe тpaдициoнныx тpaнcпopтныx cpeдcтв, нo и имeют мeньший зaпac xoдa, тpeбyют cпeциaльнoй инфpacтpyктypы для зapядки бaтapeй — вce эти фaктopы cильнo влияют нa выбop клиeнтoв пpи пoкyпкe aвтo. Peмoнт элeктpoмoбилeй — этo тaкжe coвepшeннo нoвaя oтpacль. Убeдить пoкyпaтeлeй пpиoбpecти тaкoe cpeдcтвo пepeдвижeния мoжeт быть дocтaтoчнo cлoжнo, дaжe нecмoтpя нa гocyдapcтвeннyю пpoпaгaндy и пoддepжкy. Дa и кpyпнeйшиe aвтoкoнцepны, кoнтpoлиpyющиe миpoвoй pынoк, ceгoдня нe гoтoвы пoлнocтью yпacть в oбъятья «зeлeныx». Beдь для ниx oткaз oт бeнзинa гpoзит oткaзoм oт ycтoявшиxcя cxeм пpoизвoдcтвa, пpoдвижeния и пpoдaж aвтo и нeoбxoдимocтью coздaния coвepшeннo нoвoй oтpacли — элeктpoмoбилecтpoeния.


Source: http://www.avtovzglyad.ru/avto/avtoprom/2017-08-31-pochemu-elektromobili--tupikovaja-vetv-razvitija-avtoproma/

Google translated from Russian.




We are surrounded by legends on this forum. Phenomenal successes and catastrophic failures. Then there are the scams. This forum is a digital museum.  
* The most iconic historic bitcointalk threads.* Satoshi * Cypherpunks*MtGox*Bitcointalk hacks*pHiShInG* Silk Road*Pirateat40*Knightmb*Miner shams*Forum scandals*BBCode*
Troll spotting*Thank you to madnessteat for my custom avatar hat.
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!