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[Marina Uni]

Dear ladies and gentlemen

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[Steamtyme]

Seems like a bit of a reach on threatening you with death. Mostly because they also refer to the life sentence, so perhaps they are unaware of the laws.

I would also move this to reputation, and report the post to a moderator explaining your stance.

[Lauda]

I would also move this to reputation, and report the post to a moderator explaining your stance.

No.
PM theymos directly, that should get them permanently banned.

[xtraelv]

I would also move this to reputation, and report the post to a moderator explaining your stance.

No.
PM theymos directly, that should get them permanently banned.

I agree with Lauda.

Because my Russian is limited I asked two Russians that I trust what their thoughts were.

Russian trolling and innuendo is hard to understand for anyone that is not a native speaker.

It might not sound that serious when translated but this is a serious and credible threat.

Hi!

This is not trolling. The post is serious.
This is not a direct threat.
Indirect very clear hint.
I read the article by the link.
There are comments in Russian, screenshots.

If you supplement the text on the forum + those screenshots in this article, I consider this a threat to life.

https://bitjournal.media/07-07-2018/arest-organizatora-kriptovalyutoj-afery-worldcore-pavla-krymova-obmanutyh-vkladchikov-predstavlyaet-mezhdunarodnaya-yuridicheskaya-firma/

theres actually waaaay heavier threats on http://worldcore-review.com/2018/07/04/questra-reviews/

article just saying that you should report this to proper instances, but screenshots with comments - thats dark) but thats pretty much on every pyramid, i guess.  

[suchmoon]

I reported it to moderator as a death threat and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

[xtraelv]

I reported it to moderator as a death thread and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

[pawel7777]

I reported it to moderator as a death threat and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

To be honest, the translation in the OP doesn't look like an obvious threat and hardly make sense (google translate didn't help much), especially the "life sentence" part. Is FinTechEU allegedly saying that he will put OP in prison for life or impose a death penalty on him somehow?

It's not even clear who is that post addressed to. There are 2 names mentioned but I don't understand the context.

...

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

Wasn't it a Russian mod who marked suchmoon's report as "bad"? I'd expect local board reports to be going through local mods.

[Xal0lex]

I reported it to moderator as a death thread and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Wasn't it a Russian mod who marked suchmoon's report as "bad"? I'd expect local board reports to be going through local mods.

You forget that there are two moderators in the Russian section.

[xtraelv]

I reported it to moderator as a death threat and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

To be honest, the translation in the OP doesn't look like an obvious threat and hardly make sense (google translate didn't help much), especially the "life sentence" part. Is FinTechEU allegedly saying that he will put OP in prison for life or impose a death penalty on him somehow?

It's not even clear who is that post addressed to. There are 2 names mentioned but I don't understand the context.

...

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

Wasn't it a Russian mod who marked suchmoon's report as "bad"? I'd expect local board reports to be going through local mods.

Some things in Russian don't translate well and can appear innocent or have a different interpretation.

Not all of the local board reports are dealt with by the local moderators - global moderators deal with those as well.- often they also only have a limited amount of time to consider the report.

Neither of the Russians I spoke to have to my knowledge been posting in the Worldcore thread so their opinions would not be tainted by anything other than the post and the link.

I reported it to moderator as a death thread and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Wasn't it a Russian mod who marked suchmoon's report as "bad"? I'd expect local board reports to be going through local mods.

You forget that there are two moderators in the Russian section.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Veleor]

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Does it matter what Marina Uni considers? If Worldcore organizers think that she is one of the initiators, then it is the direct threat to her life.

[akarmin]

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Does it matter what Marina Uni considers? If Worldcore organizers think that she is one of the initiators, then it is the direct threat to her life.

There's no information war. There's just a Death Threat from the Worldcore team.

lol.
there are the threats towards the initiators of the information war started against worldcore! then marina got scared of it. do you understand now marina's role in that black pr campaign? it is as easy as 1-2-3

[compelito]

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Does it matter what Marina Uni considers? If Worldcore organizers think that she is one of the initiators, then it is the direct threat to her life.

There's no information war. There's just a Death Threat from the Worldcore team.

lol.
there are the threats towards the initiators of the information war started against worldcore! then marina got scared of it. do you understand now marina's role in that black pr campaign? it is as easy as 1-2-3

i will say even more !!whether ma rina is alive or dead ,,she will pour the filth ../against worldcore and alex nasonov directly from the coffin ,,hahahahaha
itis crystally clear to everyone    !!

[OgNasty]

I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Everybody is a hardened murdered on the internet it seems.  This light reading comes to mind. 

https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2008/02/27/if-you-arent-getting-hate-mail-your-writing-probably-sucks/

[akarmin]

I would also move this to reputation, and report the post to a moderator explaining your stance.

No.
PM theymos directly, that should get them permanently banned.

So... Anybody banned FintechEU?

it seems to me that this, marina, is the only goal of your work on this forum. you make a pressure on a specific person from who you are extorting money. the longer the person refuses to pay to you, the more pressure on him you make. i would believe in these fake threats that were directed not against you but taking into account how rude you talk to other users, that's impossible to trust you anymore, sorry

[Johny Depp]

Death threat = Permaban

Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1708429.0

[akarmin]

Death threat = Permaban

Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1708429.0

there was no any kind of direct threats to marina uni and that was proved by the moderator that is why the post was not deleted and the user was not permamently banned. but what is clear is that marina uni proved that she has a direct connection to black pr campaign as fintecheu promised CONSEQUENCES to organizers of black pr campaign...the gangsters who extort money must be imprisoned. that will be fair

[compelito]

Death threat = Permaban

Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1708429.0

there was no any kind of direct threats to marina uni and that was proved by the moderator that is why the post was not deleted and the user was not permamently banned. but what is clear is that marina uni proved that she has a direct connection to black pr campaign as fintecheu promised CONSEQUENCES to organizers of black pr campaign...the gangsters who extort money must be imprisoned. that will be fair

Well guyys you know..I think Merina would go to the police officer and filed an application if she felt a real death threat from that guy. It seems to me this woman is just trying to pay attention to her. Maybe she is an ex-girlfriend of him?  Anybody knows?

/hhmmmmm ..very reasonable suposition ..i dont no exectly since nobody mentioned this infrmation on the forum ,,but i can guess she want 2 get some part of wrc business of fintecheu if they r not dating any,more ??
other users know marina as a paidposter ,,there were even red comments inher trust in the past ...

[akarmin]

I reported it to moderator as a death thread and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Wasn't it a Russian mod who marked suchmoon's report as "bad"? I'd expect local board reports to be going through local mods.

You forget that there are two moderators in the Russian section.

well... will that woman take a warning from mods for the attempt to slander another user who wasnt guilty?? I think everybody should stand by his words yup

folks, probably you are not aware, so I will try to explain to you. marina uni is a paidposter who was hired by alexander prochukhan - the true organizer of black pr campaign against worldcore. so, this is not a kind of relationships between fintecheu and marina uni at all. 
read more about this:
http://worldcore-review.com/en/2018/08/21/the-history-of-success-alexander-prochukhan-what-did-the-con-artist-before-founding-his-first-pyramid/

[compelito]

I reported it to moderator as a death thread and it got marked as "bad" so apparently the mod disagrees.

I PM'd Xal0lex and asked him to have a look at it. A Russian moderator will understand it the best.

There is no direct threat. The threat is directed towards the initiators of the information war. If Marina Uni considers herself the initiator of the information war, the threat is directed to her side.

Wasn't it a Russian mod who marked suchmoon's report as "bad"? I'd expect local board reports to be going through local mods.

You forget that there are two moderators in the Russian section.

well... will that woman take a warning from mods for the attempt to slander another user who wasnt guilty?? I think everybody should stand by his words yup

folks, probably you are not aware, so I will try to explain to you. marina uni is a paidposter who was hired by alexander prochukhan - the true organizer of black pr campaign against worldcore. so, this is not a kind of relationships between fintecheu and marina uni at all. 
read more about this:
http://worldcore-review.com/en/2018/08/21/the-history-of-success-alexander-prochukhan-what-did-the-con-artist-before-founding-his-first-pyramid/

haha lol exactly
..and that s important 2 mention that ma rina /opened her own vegeterian cafe on money received from her employer prochukhan in the yaroslavl region !!beware of her personality ,,and do not trust her !!

[akarmin]

Death Threat from the Worldcore team again Need urgent assistance!

Marina, you think with your head. You have a lot of personal information, to find you, if someone presses, it will not be difficult. By your activities, you make a lot of enemies, in addition to VC. Are not you afraid? You in fact understand that where the reputation of something large is at stake, the price of a person's life is close to zero?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg46144991#msg46144991

so what kind of assistance do you need? and why do you quote some person who does not belong to worldcore team at all trying to make a proof from it? I won't even get suprised if it is your bot that you created to mislead people and manipulate their opinion

[compelito]

Death Threat from the Worldcore team again Need urgent assistance!

Marina, you think with your head. You have a lot of personal information, to find you, if someone presses, it will not be difficult. By your activities, you make a lot of enemies, in addition to VC. Are not you afraid? You in fact understand that where the reputation of something large is at stake, the price of a person's life is close to zero?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg46144991#msg46144991

so what kind of assistance do you need? and why do you quote some person who does not belong to worldcore team at all trying to make a proof from it? I won't even get suprised if it is your bot that you created to mislead people and manipulate their opinion

lol
n/othing changes ma rina is lying as ussal trying 2 present herself helpless andall offended girl b,, but everyvoby understands shes lying every day ,,every moment trying 2 hide that her employer prochukhan pays her 4 blacken worldcore .. will she be punished by mods 4 slandering ??\

[joguess]

Death Threat from the Worldcore team again Need urgent assistance!

Marina, you think with your head. You have a lot of personal information, to find you, if someone presses, it will not be difficult. By your activities, you make a lot of enemies, in addition to VC. Are not you afraid? You in fact understand that where the reputation of something large is at stake, the price of a person's life is close to zero?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg46144991#msg46144991

so what kind of assistance do you need? and why do you quote some person who does not belong to worldcore team at all trying to make a proof from it? I won't even get suprised if it is your bot that you created to mislead people and manipulate their opinion

lol
n/othing changes ma rina is lying as ussal trying 2 present herself helpless andall offended girl b,, but everyvoby understands shes lying every day ,,every moment trying 2 hide that her employer prochukhan pays her 4 blacken worldcore .. will she be punished by mods 4 slandering ??\

wel... why dont anybody punish her?? if she does such a black job ?? are there such rules on the bitcointalk forum according to which mods could ban her??

[akarmin]

Death Threat from the Worldcore team again Need urgent assistance!

Marina, you think with your head. You have a lot of personal information, to find you, if someone presses, it will not be difficult. By your activities, you make a lot of enemies, in addition to VC. Are not you afraid? You in fact understand that where the reputation of something large is at stake, the price of a person's life is close to zero?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg46144991#msg46144991

so what kind of assistance do you need? and why do you quote some person who does not belong to worldcore team at all trying to make a proof from it? I won't even get suprised if it is your bot that you created to mislead people and manipulate their opinion

just read this

why are you always copypasting your posts?

this post does not suit to this topic - there is another one for these thread.

once again, a question to you: why do you quote some person who does not belong to worldcore team at all trying to make a proof from it?

[akarmin]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2145553 - akarmin - sapienti sat.

marina, that's very nice that your paid-translator knows latin but that kind of argumention is incredibly far from argumentation of strong proofs.
by the way, I sent a warning letter to the mods and asked them to consider my application.  
taking into account your reputation and nubmer of times when you lied, you must proof everything.

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

[compelito]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2145553 - akarmin - sapienti sat.

marina, that's very nice that your paid-translator knows latin but that kind of argumention is incredibly far from argumentation of strong proofs.
by the way, I sent a warning letter to the mods and asked them to consider my application.  
taking into account your reputation and nubmer of times when you lied, you must proof everything.

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

lol donot pro ve her anything !!she is a prochukhan'' s paidposter !! prochukhan stays behind the black pr campaign agaisnt worldcorr
if you rtally believe and trust marina ,,then just look at her trust .
ma rina is not responsible for the words she says --she says what her employers order her to say ../

[xtraelv]

WOW Twins and the triplets born just minutes apart. Must have been an easy birth.

Surely they are not alts breaking rule:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row is not allowed.

That would be so silly to do in META where they talk about forum rules, account farms, merit abuse, scammers...etc













Handy archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180926160736/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023609.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20180926160641/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023609.20

[xtraelv]

Worldcore - just an another account farm. I told you so...
administrators should delete all this infection from the forum.

<snip>

here are the multiaccounts of bots who were hired to blackmail worldcore project that is a payment system. how can a payment system be a scam?

I don't know what that DOX has to do with the accusation. There appears to be no point to it and in violation of the rules.

1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.

I haven't been following the Worldcore scam accusations and don't know who is right or wrong and do not have the time to look at it closely.

Those profiles that you listed don't look related and I know who one of those profiles belongs to.

Definitely no bots. Making accusations that don't stand up to scrutiny makes you look dodgy.

However it looks like the triplets disappeared with the help of the moderator.
https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

Worldcore - just an another account farm. I told you so...
administrators should delete all this infection from the forum.

Scams are not moderated. They are dealt with independently by the default trust system.

Alts are permitted but you are not allowed to use alts to post sequential posts or have a conversation between your alts.

If one of the alts gets banned then the ban applies to all the alts - the ban is on the person - not just on the user ID.

how can a payment system be a scam?

Since you asked I looked it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkvGAg1pNvQ

is the accusation being made.

[suchmoon]

Scams are not moderated. They are dealt with independently by the default trust system.

Except for some reason the Russian shitcoin board (and I think some other local boards) doesn't show trust ratings so the system doesn't work there as it should.

[akarmin]

Since you asked I looked it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkvGAg1pNvQ

is the accusation being made.

so, if you watched this video, I advise you to watch the following one that was created by marina uni. it's a fake video where ceo worldcore alex nasonov allegedly confesses that he is a scammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huBTEcPdmoY&feature=youtu.be

this video was roughly sliced from the original video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TOc9JdshOM

how, on earth, one can trust her after this?

[akarmin]

Death Threats from the Worldcore team are continuing

no threats. the real investors are accusing you in making a black-pr campaign against worldcore! because of you, the token price dropped down and the investors suffered losses. so, they ask you a resonable question: are you ready to compensate their losses? when will you start being responsible for the words you say?

[xtraelv]

Death Threats from the Worldcore team are continuing

no threats. the real investors are accusing you in making a black-pr campaign against worldcore! because of you, the token price dropped down and the investors suffered losses. so, they ask you a resonable question: are you ready to compensate their losses? when will you start being responsible for the words you say?

I'm assuming you are asking about this question:

-If you were paid by ukranian scammers and spent like a year on providing black PR activity over russian project  resulting in its token price and trade volumes drastically fall -are you ready to compensate those losses to investors since it is your direct fault?

You see it relies on the preposition "If you were paid by ukranian scammers and spent like a year on providing black PR activity"..

a) being paid by Ukrainian scammers
b) involved in black PR activity

Is there any actual evidence that that show is the case ?

If there is no evidence of that OR it has already been denied by Marina Uni then the subposition doesn't require an answer. It is what they call a Strawman.

Several worldcore accounts suffered the wrath of the moderator for breaking the rules and you - yourself have been indulging in forum rule breaking - all stuff that looks very dodgy from my viewpoint.

[akarmin]

Death Threats from the Worldcore team are continuing

no threats. the real investors are accusing you in making a black-pr campaign against worldcore! because of you, the token price dropped down and the investors suffered losses. so, they ask you a resonable question: are you ready to compensate their losses? when will you start being responsible for the words you say?

I'm assuming you are asking about this question:

-If you were paid by ukranian scammers and spent like a year on providing black PR activity over russian project  resulting in its token price and trade volumes drastically fall -are you ready to compensate those losses to investors since it is your direct fault?

You see it relies on the preposition "If you were paid by ukranian scammers and spent like a year on providing black PR activity"..

a) being paid by Ukrainian scammers
b) involved in black PR activity

Is there any actual evidence that that show is the case ?

If there is no evidence of that OR it has already been denied by Marina Uni then the subposition doesn't require an answer. It is what they call a Strawman.

Several worldcore accounts suffered the wrath of the moderator for breaking the rules and you - yourself have been indulging in forum rule breaking - all stuff that looks very dodgy from my viewpoint.

I agree with you: Worldsore's black PR managers are not stupid. Nevertheless, they openly threaten me with death, which violates paragraph 8 of the Forum Rules.

marina, firstly nobody knows who is the user with a nickname fintecheu.
secondly, this user made a warning to the orginezers of black pr campaign against wrc and just marked that they will face the consequences
thirdly, you projected the situation to yourself - it means that you are one of orginizers. fed up?

[xtraelv]

marina, firstly nobody knows who is the user with a nickname fintecheu.
secondly, this user made a warning to the orginezers of black pr campaign against wrc and just marked that they will face the consequences
thirdly, you projected the situation to yourself - it means that you are one of orginizers. fed up?

When it comes to "the kettle calling the pot black". I've had a look through your posts. They are exclusively in Worldcore scam threads with what appears to be a black PR campaign against those that you are accusing of a black PR campaign against worldcore.

Instead of countering any accusations made with evidence of the contrary you appear to be exclusively engaged in a smear campaign against those you accuse of spreading black PR.

[no threats. the real investors are accusing you in making a black-pr campaign against worldcore! because of you, the token price dropped down and the investors suffered losses. so, they ask you a resonable question: are you ready to compensate their losses? when will you start being responsible for the words you say?

the answer is clear - worldcore is not a scam! otherwise european financial regulators wouldn't just let to work the worldcore company in europe! anyway we see that the payment system still exists but the streams of filth are still pouring against it by the paidposters who were hired by prochukan and pestyuk. they stay behind this informational, black PR attack

[no threats. the real investors are accusing you in making a black-pr campaign against worldcore! because of you, the token price dropped down and the investors suffered losses. so, they ask you a resonable question: are you ready to compensate their losses? when will you start being responsible for the words you say?

I don't know what planet you live on - but smear campaigns against accusers are not believable. They might result in the other person being tainted but it does not rescue your reputation. It drags it into the gutter. Smear campaigns are conducted generally by unethical scammers that want to deflect from reasoned discussion.

Even if the accusations are valid you would need to provide more proof than usual because the accusation of scamming was made against you first.

If you want to make your business look credible then you counter accusations with:

Evidence that prove they are wrong.
Transparency where the owners are in a public campaign where people can see who they are and communicate and interact with them directly rather than dealing with it through numerous anonymous sockpuppet accounts that are more interested in making unsubstantiated accusations rather than to simply prove their accusers are wrong or mistaken.
If you expect people to make financial transactions with you then you should not hide behind anonymity.

I can categorically say that based on what I have seen you post you have the appearance of a typical scammer. I have not bothered to look into the Worldcore situation because I simply have too much other stuff I prefer to do. First impressions count. So far it is a bad one.

[akarmin]

I can categorically say that based on what I have seen you post you have the appearance of a typical scammer. I have not bothered to look into the Worldcore situation because I simply have too much other stuff I prefer to do. First impressions count. So far it is a bad one.

in order to undestand what's going on you should read the russian thread where marina is leading the black PR campaign. I have already showed you the video that was roughly cut from the original one. in the fake video ceo worldcore allegedly confesses he is a scammer. this video was posted by marina several times as a "proof of scam".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg46775172#msg46775172

now, do you think that a person who is making fakes can be trsuted as an honest person who is not interested to blacken the company reputation?!

[xtraelv]

I can categorically say that based on what I have seen you post you have the appearance of a typical scammer. I have not bothered to look into the Worldcore situation because I simply have too much other stuff I prefer to do. First impressions count. So far it is a bad one.

in order to undestand what's going on you should read the russian thread where marina is leading the black PR campaign. I have already showed you the video that was roughly cut from the original one. in the fake video ceo worldcore allegedly confesses he is a scammer. this video was posted by marina several times as a "proof of scam".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg46775172#msg46775172

now, do you think that a person who is making fakes can be trsuted as an honest person who is not interested to blacken the company reputation?!

It isn't a matter of "who I believe". I haven't made up  my mind on that and would have to look into the validity of claims made by both sides. What makes it more complex for me to do that is that my comprehension of the Russian language is not great. (Although I do know several people that regularly help me with that.)

What I do see is what has been posted in Meta. Tit for tat accusations and threats.

By your conduct it is harder to distinguish between fact and fiction.

One of your accusers made an accusation about a company before. I talked to the CEO and not only established that the company appears to be legitimate but the accuser appears to have accepted it as well.  The conduct of the company impressed me and very quickly we were able to establish that it was due to misunderstandings of fact. During the entire process - the company conducted itself ethically and provided more verifiable evidence than necessary. (Evidence which we thoroughly checked).

During the process it also became apparent that the accuser had expressed genuine concerns. (But was mistaken). Which makes your accusation that your accusers are just Ukrainian scammers very difficult for me to believe.

From my experience - reputable companies - do not go about making veiled death threats or on a smear campaign offensive or have an army of annon newbie accounts posting the same things..

They generally go out of their way to provide transparent and reliable proof.

I'm less interested in "proof" that they are scammers. I'm interested in "proof" that you are not a scammer.

Even if you are successful in convincing me that they are scammers it still does not prove that you are not a scammer.  Do you understand my concern ?

Figure out what the core accusations are and then provide strong verifiable evidence showing that it is incorrect or untrue.

Perhaps Marina Uni or someone familiar with the accusation can make a list of concerns and accusations and you can then answer them one by one with easily verifiable proof that the accusation is mistaken, partly incorrect or false.

[Veleor]

Perhaps Marina Uni or someone familiar with the accusation can make a list of concerns and accusations and you can then answer them one by one with easily verifiable proof that the accusation is mistaken, partly incorrect or false.

There are lot of accusations against Worldcore but these three are indisputable facts:
1. Worldcore is linked to the scam Benson Union.
2. CEO Alexey Nasonov faked the Diploma of Higher Education.
3. Worldcore doesn't fulfill the Roadmap.

[xtraelv]

Conclusion:

It is concerning that there is evidence that supports reasonable suspicion that Worldcore is linked in some way to Benson Union and other Pavel Krymov ventures. I have not seen any evidence that I would consider conclusive proof.

There is evidence that worldcore has conducted itself in an unethical way.

In the form of creating false qualifications and exaggerated sales hyperbole.
Exaggerated sales, exaggerated client numbers, overstating capabilities.
Posting on the forum with a multitude of sockpuppet accounts and making threats.


It is my opinion that the Ernst & Young report is real.

However I would be concerned that the E&Y assesor was not given an accurate account of afffairs since there is evidence of exaggeration and hyperbole.

https://scamworldcore.com/en/worldcore-is-scam/ lists a number of accusations that are concerning.

Hopefully Worldcore will read this and re-assess their conduct both in this forum and in their way of presenting "facts".

While I would not call it an outright scam - my advise would be to avoid it and treat it with extreme caution.

My detailed investigation can be viewed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg46853910#msg46853910

Suchmoon often manages describe the situation perfectly:

That's what makes this whole Worldcore shitshow so irritating. Both sides are engaging in a factless Kremlin-propaganda-style shitposting contest.

Recommendation:

Hopefully going forward Worldcore starts acting with more transparently with less hyperbole so the investors and consumers are given facts rather than fiction.
Often people who have invested a lot of time an resources in their project become very attached and protective of the project. They want it to do well and tell "white lies" to make themselves appear more sucessful or attractive to investors.
This is something that slowly crosses over into - misleading investors and "fraud".
When you seek investment from the public it is important to be "squeaky clean" because "misleading investors" by a company that seeks millions in investment often results in jail terms. It is not too late to change.

[akarmin]

3. Worldcore doesn't fulfill the Roadmap.

I have already advised you to read official sources and stay tuned to the latest updates. you don't do it on purpose. so, I will do it for you:

1) trading steps:
cryptocurrency exchange https://worldcore.trade launched and updated:
* new trading pairs (btc, eth, ripple, monero, usdt (with the lowest fees).
* interface with listing of new tokens
* 2FA
* advanced trading charts
2) legal steps:
* PCI DSS Level 1 certificate renewed. audit was successfully passed!
* gdpr compliance requirements fullfiled
3) financial steps:
* SWIFT code obtained: EPSOCZP1
* approval for issuance visa plastic and virtual debit cards received

still not fulfilling roadmap? really?

[Veleor]

still not fulfilling roadmap? really?

Mark what points of the Roadmap were fulfilled by this time.

$5M
● Membership in VISA, MASTERCARD, CHINA UNIONPAY, SWIFT and SEPA networks. (Q1 2018)
● Launch of branded and co-branded prepaid debit cards for enterprises. (Q1 2018)
● Dedicated IBAN for every account. (Q1 2018)
● Extension of marketing budget, sales and marketing team to triple growth rate. (Q4 2017)
● Opening of 5 offices in EU countries with local targeted marketing, sales and support teams to increase attractiveness of Worldcore services to local audience. (Q2-Q3 2018)
● Launch of Worldcore-branded brokerage platform for blockchain assets trading. (Q2 2018)

$10M
● Membership in JCB and American Express.
● Opening of 5 fully-packed offices in 5 more EU countries. (Q1 2019)
● Launch of UK-regulated Blockchain-powered P2P lending platform with unique features. (Q3 2018)

#25M
● Launch of Blockchain-based cash transfer platform for easy and instant conversion of cryptocurrencies into cash and vice versa in 1000+ of pickup points internationally including all Worldcore offices. (Q1 2019)
● Launch of WorldcoreTV - the world’s first 24/7 hybrid of TV channel and digital media focused on Fintech & BlockChain industries with online and international 24/7 broadcasting through Satellite and IPTV. (Q2 2018)
● Setting up WorldcoreTV advertising marketplace on an auction basis to efficiently monetize WorldcoreTV. (Q3 2018)
● International indoor and outdoor marketing campaigns for all products in most of the European countries

[akarmin]

veleor, I'm not sure if you are able to read! you can find the answers in the previous post of mine.

● Membership in [...]SWIFT

SWIFT code was obtained recently. it's: EPSOCZP1 (it's verifiable on swift.com) - completed

● Membership in [...]SEPA

integration of SEPA instant credit transfers - real-time bank transfers in euros between sepa countries - completed

● Membership in [...]VISA

as I already mentioned: approval for issuance visa plastic and virtual debit cards was received. further setup is in progress now

sure, these steps take a lot of time, but the roadmap is fulfilling. the work is being constantly done

[xtraelv]

3. Worldcore doesn't fulfill the Roadmap.

I have already advised you to read official sources and stay tuned to the latest updates. you don't do it on purpose. so, I will do it for you:

1) trading steps:
cryptocurrency exchange https://worldcore.trade launched and updated:
* new trading pairs (btc, eth, ripple, monero, usdt (with the lowest fees).
* interface with listing of new tokens
* 2FA
* advanced trading charts
2) legal steps:
* PCI DSS Level 1 certificate renewed. audit was successfully passed!
* gdpr compliance requirements fullfiled
3) financial steps:
* SWIFT code obtained: EPSOCZP1
* approval for issuance visa plastic and virtual debit cards received

still not fulfilling roadmap? really?

veleor, I'm not sure if you are able to read! you can find the answers in the previous post of mine.

● Membership in [...]SWIFT

SWIFT code was obtained recently. it's: EPSOCZP1 (it's verifiable on swift.com) - completed

● Membership in [...]SEPA

integration of SEPA instant credit transfers - real-time bank transfers in euros between sepa countries - completed

● Membership in [...]VISA

as I already mentioned: approval for issuance visa plastic and virtual debit cards was received. further setup is in progress now

sure, these steps take a lot of time, but the roadmap is fulfilling. the work is being constantly done

This is exactly the type of dialogue that is helpful. I think a large number of issues are due to each side not trusting each other.

Worldcore has made mistakes but some of the accusations are also incorrect.

Lets work through the issues rationally. You are welcome to correct me on any of the posts that I have made. You will notice that I edit posts if I believe the information that I have posted is incorrect.

Perhaps Marina Uni or someone familiar with the accusation can make a list of concerns and accusations and you can then answer them one by one with easily verifiable proof that the accusation is mistaken, partly incorrect or false.

There are lot of accusations against Worldcore but these three are indisputable facts:
1. Worldcore is linked to the scam Benson Union.
2. CEO Alexey Nasonov faked the Diploma of Higher Education.
3. Worldcore doesn't fulfill the Roadmap.

1. I'd like to see more evidence before coming to the conclusion that it is related to Benson Union. It is not clear what link (if any) it has. I'd also be keen to see what worldcore has to say about that.
2. Correct. They made up their own qualifications.
3.I think it is too early to complain about the roadmap. Plans sometimes take longer than intended.

[akarmin]

This is exactly the type of dialogue that is helpful. I think a large number of issues are due to each side not trusting each other.

Worldcore has made mistakes but some of the accusations are also incorrect.

Lets work through the issues rationally. You are welcome to correct me on any of the posts that I have made. You will notice that I edit posts if I believe the information that I have posted is incorrect.

I also believe it's essentially important to state a few words about the criminal case that was initiated against worldcore.

the criminal case of fraud on the part of the company, opened by the national police of ukraine, turned out to be incompetent falsification: a certain anton gevko, a refugee from horlivka, wrote a statement  (point 11 with my translation further) that on 12.03.2018 an unidentified person under the pretext of attracting investment to the international company worldcore by fraud took possession of his money in the amount of 5,000 US dollars, after which they disposed of at their own discretion, without fulfilling their obligations - and nothing would have happened, except that this “investment attraction” had happened right next to the kyiv goloseevskaya metro station rather than on the internet through the acquisition of a wrc token as part of ico, as one could expect!

yes! - apparently, according to those who fabricated the legend for this fake, worldcore attracts investments in this way. As for gevko himself, he has already admitted* (the text was taken from anton's odnokalssiniki.ru social network profile) the fact of giving false testimony at the request of anna chervinskaya (alexander prochukhan’s sister). he most likely repeatedly regretted going to cooperate with the gangsters who simply took advantage of the disastrous financial situation of this immigrant from donbass.

* - translation:

"I want to declare that I have slandered a person. anna chervinskaya approached me through a friend and promised a large sum of money for help. I had to write a statement, as if a man from russia (alex nasonov, ceo worldcore - my note) seemed to have stolen 5,000 US dollars from me. they said that he was a bad man. and I fit into a dubious topic - gave false testimony for the money to this person. a criminal case was opened against him. I really needed the money. now I am taking consequences. I was framed, paid and forced to slander a person. it turned out that alexander prochukhan, the creator of the financial pyramid questra world, needed to be swept away from his tracks. and now he is on the run and it turns out that I am with him now like his criminal partner. anna is his sister. now I am threatened. if I tell you more, I will not see my family"

[xtraelv]

This is exactly the type of dialogue that is helpful. I think a large number of issues are due to each side not trusting each other.

Worldcore has made mistakes but some of the accusations are also incorrect.

Lets work through the issues rationally. You are welcome to correct me on any of the posts that I have made. You will notice that I edit posts if I believe the information that I have posted is incorrect.

I also believe it's essentially important to state a few words about the criminal case that was initiated against worldcore.

the criminal case of fraud on the part of the company, opened by the national police of ukraine, turned out to be incompetent falsification: a certain anton gevko, a refugee from horlivka, wrote a statement  (point 11 with my translation further) that on 12.03.2018 an unidentified person under the pretext of attracting investment to the international company worldcore by fraud took possession of his money in the amount of 5,000 US dollars, after which they disposed of at their own discretion, without fulfilling their obligations - and nothing would have happened, except that this “investment attraction” had happened right next to the kyiv goloseevskaya metro station rather than on the internet through the acquisition of a wrc token as part of ico, as one could expect!

yes! - apparently, according to those who fabricated the legend for this fake, worldcore attracts investments in this way. As for gevko himself, he has already admitted* (the text was taken from anton's odnokalssiniki.ru social network profile) the fact of giving false testimony at the request of anna chervinskaya (alexander prochukhan’s sister). he most likely repeatedly regretted going to cooperate with the gangsters who simply took advantage of the disastrous financial situation of this immigrant from donbass.

* - translation:

"I want to declare that I have slandered a person. anna chervinskaya approached me through a friend and promised a large sum of money for help. I had to write a statement, as if a man from russia (alex nasonov, ceo worldcore - my note) seemed to have stolen 5,000 US dollars from me. they said that he was a bad man. and I fit into a dubious topic - gave false testimony for the money to this person. a criminal case was opened against him. I really needed the money. now I am taking consequences. I was framed, paid and forced to slander a person. it turned out that alexander prochukhan, the creator of the financial pyramid questra world, needed to be swept away from his tracks. and now he is on the run and it turns out that I am with him now like his criminal partner. anna is his sister. now I am threatened. if I tell you more, I will not see my family"

Are there any verifiable news sources or court documents for that ? I some countries court documents are accessible online.

Anyone can type up a statement and post it on the internet. I am trying to establish facts on verifiable evidence.

Serious allegations require serious proof.

[akarmin]

In Ukraine, such documents are protected by a secret investigation. Obviously, this image was written by rogues in Photoshop. No one can obtain such information in a legal way.

I can just guess that law-enforcement agents who invested in ukraine and suffered from the questra financial pyramid organized by prochukhan, decided to retaliate and leaked the document.

[mikal_akut]

Mein Gott.
What was it? Where did you get this, on which site?

https://ibb.co/gQk8Z9

Hi, Marina! Haven't seen you for so long! 

I will help you and answer the question the response for which you know better than me: there can be just one official website in Ukraine that can provide such a document https://erdr.gp.gov.ua/ If Alex Nasonov is accused of creating a scam project, he, as a suspected person, has an access to this database on a criminal case. So, there is no any reason to fabricate the document if the criminal case, according to you, really exists.

[xtraelv]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.



https://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/f8e9cf3e-bfca-4392-ab44-8a3ff74435ea

12_20283913

 

 ARBITER COURT OF CITY OF MOSCOW

 115191, Moscow, ul.  Bolshaya Tulskashch d. 17
 11pr: "'h" p'chchnpp1z1.satttt.sh

 DECISION
 (in the order of Art. 176 of the APC RF)

 Moscow Case Mg A40-b0b20. = '18-12-398
 October 16, 2018

 The Arbitration Court of the city of Moscow in the composition:

 Judges - Chadova A_S_

 court record-shia compiled by the assistant judge Kuznetsova N.A.
 examined in the court case on the application

 1) Czech limited liability company "EUPSProvayder sr.o."

 (Czech Republic) 2) General Director of the Czech Limited
 Responsibility "EUPSProvayder sr.o." (Czech Republic) Nasonov Aleksey Vlasnnrovich

 the defendant: Ltd. "Rusbeys" (BIN 1127746119841, RP-W 7729703526)
 protection of business reputation
 attended the meeting: according to the protocol.

 REC] IL:
 To meet the requirements refuse in full.

 The decision may be appealed to the Nine Arbitration Court of Appeal in
 within one month from the date of its adoption.

 Judge: A.S. Chadov

I'm not familiar with Russian law. In most countries civil proceedings have lower standards than criminal law.

Also failure to secure a prosecution is not proof that what was printed is correct.

Most legal systems provide for journalistic legal privilege.

[akarmin]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.

marina, get calm down, please! it's not written in the jugde decision that worldcore is a scam (as you are trying to force), it's written that the moscow arbitration court refused to meet the requirements. and this is the most interesting moment. the fact itself that rusbase deleted the article before the court session could have led to requirements' meeting refusal

[xtraelv]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.

marina, get calm down, please! it's not written in the jugde decision that worldcore is a scam (as you are trying to force), it's written that the moscow arbitration court refused to meet the requirements. and this is the most interesting moment. the fact itself that rusbase deleted the article before the court session could have led to requirements' meeting refusal

In a lot of countries there is a legal defense called "honest opinion". As long as the journalist can show that they based their opinion on information that led to their reasonable opinion at the time they are immune from a defamation lawsuits. However if they receive information to the contrary later that contradicts that and by applying that newly gained knowledge does not lead to a reasonable opinion anymore they have to stop publishing that opinion (in the case of online content)  it in order to be eligible for such defense.

[akarmin]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.

marina, get calm down, please! it's not written in the jugde decision that worldcore is a scam (as you are trying to force), it's written that the moscow arbitration court refused to meet the requirements. and this is the most interesting moment. the fact itself that rusbase deleted the article before the court session could have led to requirements' meeting refusal

In a lot of countries there is a legal defense called "honest opinion". As long as the journalist can show that they based their opinion on information that led to their reasonable opinion at the time they are immune from a defamation lawsuits. However if they receive information to the contrary later that contradicts that and by applying that newly gained knowledge does not lead to a reasonable opinion anymore they have to stop publishing that opinion (in the case of online content)  it in order to be eligible for such defense.

exactly! rusbase's lawyers understand this - so, I suppose that was the reason they deleted the article. one more note:
only the operative part of the court session is given. the protocol one is not in the public access, unfortunatelly. let's hope that the representatives of worldcore will post it. it would be interesting to study the arguments.

[xtraelv]

Worldcore employees use fake names: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

What happened: Worldcore employees use fake names and write fake reviews.

<snip>
You can find this photo in the complaint review about Worldcore: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/worldcore-worldcoreeu/internet/worldcore-worldcoreeu-upsprovider-sro-online-payment-scams-payment-provider-scams-1312530
<snip>

The ripoff report which you quoted is a massive scam itself.
Using it as evidence is completely unreliable.
http://drjaniceduffy.com/ripoff-report/

It is blocked in Europe due the content not being in compliance with European laws.

The ripoff report is facing potential criminal charges by the Italian Authorities. It has a multi-million dollar judgement against it in St. Kitts & Nevis, and is facing numerous lawsuits in the USA with possible criminal charges to follow.

Ripoff report is an illegal scam in most countries but the founder refuses to pay overseas judgement.

Just some of the many court orders against the founder of the ripoff report.

Alleged evidence of extortion and writing fake reviewsby xcentric ventures

More allegations of a criminal conspiracy by the ripoff report

<snip>

The website is owned by Ed Magedson who makes it particularly difficult for process servers to find him. While he claims not to remove anything from his website. He will remove it for a ongoing fee. The ripoff report is currently in serious trouble in several jurisdictions.

In March 2017, the Italian Data Protection Authority affirmed that Ripoff Report's activities — namely, Ed Magedson's requests for money to edit web pages — are illegal in Italy. The Italian authorities also noticed that Ripoff Report's web servers are occasionally not reachable from Italy in order to evade controls by the authorities themselves. Besides, they noticed that some web pages — which were being investigated by the authorities — were deleted out of the blue by the website owner, despite the claim that Ripoff Report does not remove reports.

A federal court stated that victims have "probable cause to sue for extortion and racketeering". http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-real-rip-off-report-6445677
http://drjaniceduffy.com/2017/05/ed-magedson-ripoff-report-darren-meade-sued-for-60-million/
http://drjaniceduffy.com/2017/05/ed-magedson-ripoff-report-darren-meade-obstruction-of-justice/

According to ripoffreport, you sent them information and content that should not be relied upon... and the accuracy of the information you sent them relies on anonymous authors and commenters.  

3. ONLINE CONTENT

Opinions, advice, statements, offers, or other information or content made available through Ripoff Report are those of their respective authors and not of Xcentric, and should not necessarily be relied upon. Such authors are solely responsible for the accuracy of such content.

Xcentric does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information on Ripoff Report and neither adopts nor endorses nor is responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any opinion, advice or statement made. Under no circumstances will Xcentric be responsible for any loss or damage resulting from anyone's reliance on information or other content posted on Ripoff Report.

https://www.ripoffreport.com/terms-of-service

Repeating false accusations without proof can result in defamation proceedings.

WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Worldcore - Fake names of employees
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

Worldcore - Fake diploma of CEO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039485.0

Why so many threads ? It makes it hard to reply.

The same image of Alex Sol / Alexey Solonsky / Richard Bracke from another site: https://worldcore.pissedconsumer.com/worldcore-worldcore-eu-aka-eupsprovider-s-r-o-20160621869125.html

7 Proven. ☑    - Worldcore writing own positive reviews

I have seen some Worldcore shills that write false reviews.

It is relatively obvious by reading the reviews.

8 Not proven. ☒�  - Fake social media profile of Alexey

However with the "fake profiles".

1) They are on a third party social media site. Anyone can make a fake profile on there - it is not necessarily done by the person in the photo.

2) It is reasonably common for people to use fake profiles on social media or to shorten their names or use Nicknames.

Alexey Solonsky using Alex Sol is quite acceptable and is not hiding the their identity.

I'm neither convinced that Alexey Solonsky made the Richard Bracke profile nor that it "fooled" anyone. It would be downright stupid to use your own photo on a social media site and identify your employer but use a fake name.

I have a strong suspicion that the profile was set up by someone other than Alexey Solonsky.

Using fake identities are worrying if they are used on the whitepaper or official company web pages. Using a different name on a social media site is relatively common. The way that the profile is presented makes me very suspicious about who would benefit from making such an obvious link to the profile.

Some murky tactics have been used by both sides of this dispute.

[tmfp]

WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Worldcore - Fake names of employees
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

Worldcore - Fake diploma of CEO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039485.0

Why so many threads ? It makes it hard to reply.

Yes, it's a sprawling antagonistic mess that now includes this thread, which was specifically about a death threat (dealt with in the first few posts), but has turned into an unmoderated regurgitation of "He said she said" posting, which should be deleted as off topic and, ideally, this thread closed.

[akarmin]

WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Worldcore - Fake names of employees
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

Worldcore - Fake diploma of CEO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039485.0

Why so many threads ? It makes it hard to reply.

Yes, it's a sprawling antagonistic mess that now includes this thread, which was specifically about a death threat (dealt with in the first few posts), but has turned into an unmoderated regurgitation of "He said she said" posting, which should be deleted as off topic and, ideally, this thread closed.

the fact is that marina (eduard) whose indentity is closed and not revealed as she stated herself, feels perfectly and is not afraid of being uncovered. I conclude that she is not fear for her (his) life at all.
moreover, her (his) colleagues stated that fintecheu is a personal profile of alex nasonov (that is also false and not proven) and it was allegedly him who threatened her:

It is necessary to say that the Worldcore company calls itself an "transparent european organization", although the Worldcore manager FintechEU does not disclose his name and position in the company for entire year despite the fact that he was asked to do this many times. Worldcore turned off the website worldcore.com with the list of their employees and the Roadmap and you can't find them on Worldcore web resourses anymore.

I suppose she (he) has a personal animosity to ceo worldcore alex nasonov.

[bluefirecorp_]

No one gives a shit about your petty disputes.

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

However, there doesn't seem to be an obvious "i'm gonna kill you", so both you twats stop the bickering and shut the fuck up.

No one cares about your scam token, ico, or whatever the hell the bloody fucking scam is.

If you rip off people, maybe you should fear for your life. Fuck con-artist.

[akarmin]

No one gives a shit about your petty disputes.

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

However, there doesn't seem to be an obvious "i'm gonna kill you", so both you twats stop the bickering and shut the fuck up.

No one cares about your scam token, ico, or whatever the hell the bloody fucking scam is.

If you rip off people, maybe you should fear for your life. Fuck con-artist.

pretty emotional post! but the truth is that nobody cares about emotions, people are interested in facts.
if you are not interested in this thread, you can pass it by, but you didin't do this - so, live with it, darling.

I have hooked on it for months as I invested in this token, so I do really care:

[compelito]

Isn't this over yet? I think this should already be locked.

locked wat ?the thread ?? I agree with you !! its a bit far-fetched

[akarmin]

Isn't this over yet? I think this should already be locked.

locked wat ?the thread ?? I agree with you !! its a bit far-fetched

keep calm. I suppose the reason of creating so many threads about worldcore lies in decreasing attention that other users pay to the prevoius ones. it's easier to draw attention to the new thread with a few posts rather than to the thread with over 1000 messages

[myrthme]

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

Sounds sarcastically!))
Marina wishes there would be a real threat. And if there was a such one, I bet she would be the first who went to the police and filed an application. Do you see the screenshot of the paper?) I don't!)))

[akarmin]

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

Sounds sarcastically!))
Marina wishes there would be a real threat. And if there was a such one, I bet she would be the first who went to the police and filed an application. Do you see the screenshot of the paper?) I don't!)))

in the context of blackmailing and creating allegedly "scam" reputation, it's better (more profitable) for her to spread rumors rather than go to the police and file an application. she will never do this herself as there's no body of a crime

[myrthme]

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

Sounds sarcastically!))
Marina wishes there would be a real threat. And if there was a such one, I bet she would be the first who went to the police and filed an application. Do you see the screenshot of the paper?) I don't!)))

in the context of blackmailing and creating allegedly "scam" reputation, it's better (more profitable) for her to spread rumors rather than go to the police and file an application. she will never do this herself as there's no body of a crime

Well, who knows what she has inside her head. But there's no doubt she has a financial interest in the topic concerning Worldcore. No one would spend so much time trying to collect a package of negative evidence against Worldcore. I wonder how much totally she influenced the token price making such a campaign?
By the way, who knows, how much does it cost? 

[akarmin]

Well, who knows what she has inside her head. But there's no doubt she has a financial interest in the topic concerning Worldcore. No one would spend so much time trying to collect a package of negative evidence against Worldcore. I wonder how much totally she influenced the token price making such a campaign?
By the way, who knows, how much does it cost? 

nobody but marina will answer this question to you. taking into account that she spends here days in and days out, she, probably, earns an average moscow salary that is about $2000-2500.
but it's only guesses, not more

[myrthme]

No one gives a shit about your petty disputes.
Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.
However, there doesn't seem to be an obvious "i'm gonna kill you", so both you twats stop the bickering and shut the fuck up.
No one cares about your scam token, ico, or whatever the hell the bloody fucking scam is.
If you rip off people, maybe you should fear for your life. Fuck con-artist.

pretty emotional post! but the truth is that nobody cares about emotions, people are interested in facts.
if you are not interested in this thread, you can pass it by, but you didin't do this - so, live with it, darling.
I have hooked on it for months as I invested in this token, so I do really care:
https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2018/10/21/fa77a04b69bc2145c2f9a6865fb298f7-full.jpg

what are you going to do with your wrc tokens?

[akarmin]

what are you going to do with your wrc tokens?

I will be waiting for paying the dividents out on March 31 as it is promisesd in the smart-contract description.

[Veleor]

Could the forum administration consider another threat to OP?

Mapинa, вы cвoeй гoлoвoй пoдyмaйтe. Ha вac ecть мнoгo личнoй инфopмaции, нaйти вac, ecли кoмy-тo пpижмёт, нe cocтaвит тpyдa. Cвoeй дeятeльнocтью вы нaживaeтe ceбe oчeнь мнoгo вpaгoв, пoмимo BК. He бoитecь? Bы вeдь пoнимaeтe, чтo тaм, гдe нa кoнy идёт peпyтaция чeгo-тo кpyпнoгo, цeнa жизни чeлoвeкa близкa к нyлю?

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Translation:

Think with your head, Marina. There are lot of personal information, it's not difficult to find you if someone will want. You making a lot of enemies with your activity besides WC (WorldCore). Are you not afraid? Do you realise that when a big reputation is at stake, the price of a person’s life is close to zero?

exactly! rusbase's lawyers understand this - so, I suppose that was the reason they deleted the article.

The article about Worldcore is available again on the Rusbase website https://rb.ru/opinion/smeh-greh-ico/

Translation:

Worldcore is a scam project that made a lot of noise with phony banking licenses, and it all ended with a jail in the end. The project announced the backers that he has all necessary licenses in order to be realized on the market. During the discussion on many sites users have found out that there are no licenses and this is a fake project designed for collecting money only. This project differs from ordinary scams in that no one has ever deceived backers so clumsily and brazenly.

[pilosopotasyo]

Wow that is not good, do they know who you really are and where you are located, you should get a protection, they might be a mafia involve here