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[xtraelv]

3. Worldcore doesn't fulfill the Roadmap.

I have already advised you to read official sources and stay tuned to the latest updates. you don't do it on purpose. so, I will do it for you:

1) trading steps:
cryptocurrency exchange https://worldcore.trade launched and updated:
* new trading pairs (btc, eth, ripple, monero, usdt (with the lowest fees).
* interface with listing of new tokens
* 2FA
* advanced trading charts
2) legal steps:
* PCI DSS Level 1 certificate renewed. audit was successfully passed!
* gdpr compliance requirements fullfiled
3) financial steps:
* SWIFT code obtained: EPSOCZP1
* approval for issuance visa plastic and virtual debit cards received

still not fulfilling roadmap? really?

veleor, I'm not sure if you are able to read! you can find the answers in the previous post of mine.

● Membership in [...]SWIFT

SWIFT code was obtained recently. it's: EPSOCZP1 (it's verifiable on swift.com) - completed

● Membership in [...]SEPA

integration of SEPA instant credit transfers - real-time bank transfers in euros between sepa countries - completed

● Membership in [...]VISA

as I already mentioned: approval for issuance visa plastic and virtual debit cards was received. further setup is in progress now

sure, these steps take a lot of time, but the roadmap is fulfilling. the work is being constantly done

This is exactly the type of dialogue that is helpful. I think a large number of issues are due to each side not trusting each other.

Worldcore has made mistakes but some of the accusations are also incorrect.

Lets work through the issues rationally. You are welcome to correct me on any of the posts that I have made. You will notice that I edit posts if I believe the information that I have posted is incorrect.

Perhaps Marina Uni or someone familiar with the accusation can make a list of concerns and accusations and you can then answer them one by one with easily verifiable proof that the accusation is mistaken, partly incorrect or false.

There are lot of accusations against Worldcore but these three are indisputable facts:
1. Worldcore is linked to the scam Benson Union.
2. CEO Alexey Nasonov faked the Diploma of Higher Education.
3. Worldcore doesn't fulfill the Roadmap.

1. I'd like to see more evidence before coming to the conclusion that it is related to Benson Union. It is not clear what link (if any) it has. I'd also be keen to see what worldcore has to say about that.
2. Correct. They made up their own qualifications.
3.I think it is too early to complain about the roadmap. Plans sometimes take longer than intended.

[akarmin]

This is exactly the type of dialogue that is helpful. I think a large number of issues are due to each side not trusting each other.

Worldcore has made mistakes but some of the accusations are also incorrect.

Lets work through the issues rationally. You are welcome to correct me on any of the posts that I have made. You will notice that I edit posts if I believe the information that I have posted is incorrect.

I also believe it's essentially important to state a few words about the criminal case that was initiated against worldcore.

the criminal case of fraud on the part of the company, opened by the national police of ukraine, turned out to be incompetent falsification: a certain anton gevko, a refugee from horlivka, wrote a statement  (point 11 with my translation further) that on 12.03.2018 an unidentified person under the pretext of attracting investment to the international company worldcore by fraud took possession of his money in the amount of 5,000 US dollars, after which they disposed of at their own discretion, without fulfilling their obligations - and nothing would have happened, except that this “investment attraction” had happened right next to the kyiv goloseevskaya metro station rather than on the internet through the acquisition of a wrc token as part of ico, as one could expect!

yes! - apparently, according to those who fabricated the legend for this fake, worldcore attracts investments in this way. As for gevko himself, he has already admitted* (the text was taken from anton's odnokalssiniki.ru social network profile) the fact of giving false testimony at the request of anna chervinskaya (alexander prochukhan’s sister). he most likely repeatedly regretted going to cooperate with the gangsters who simply took advantage of the disastrous financial situation of this immigrant from donbass.

* - translation:

"I want to declare that I have slandered a person. anna chervinskaya approached me through a friend and promised a large sum of money for help. I had to write a statement, as if a man from russia (alex nasonov, ceo worldcore - my note) seemed to have stolen 5,000 US dollars from me. they said that he was a bad man. and I fit into a dubious topic - gave false testimony for the money to this person. a criminal case was opened against him. I really needed the money. now I am taking consequences. I was framed, paid and forced to slander a person. it turned out that alexander prochukhan, the creator of the financial pyramid questra world, needed to be swept away from his tracks. and now he is on the run and it turns out that I am with him now like his criminal partner. anna is his sister. now I am threatened. if I tell you more, I will not see my family"

[xtraelv]

This is exactly the type of dialogue that is helpful. I think a large number of issues are due to each side not trusting each other.

Worldcore has made mistakes but some of the accusations are also incorrect.

Lets work through the issues rationally. You are welcome to correct me on any of the posts that I have made. You will notice that I edit posts if I believe the information that I have posted is incorrect.

I also believe it's essentially important to state a few words about the criminal case that was initiated against worldcore.

the criminal case of fraud on the part of the company, opened by the national police of ukraine, turned out to be incompetent falsification: a certain anton gevko, a refugee from horlivka, wrote a statement  (point 11 with my translation further) that on 12.03.2018 an unidentified person under the pretext of attracting investment to the international company worldcore by fraud took possession of his money in the amount of 5,000 US dollars, after which they disposed of at their own discretion, without fulfilling their obligations - and nothing would have happened, except that this “investment attraction” had happened right next to the kyiv goloseevskaya metro station rather than on the internet through the acquisition of a wrc token as part of ico, as one could expect!

yes! - apparently, according to those who fabricated the legend for this fake, worldcore attracts investments in this way. As for gevko himself, he has already admitted* (the text was taken from anton's odnokalssiniki.ru social network profile) the fact of giving false testimony at the request of anna chervinskaya (alexander prochukhan’s sister). he most likely repeatedly regretted going to cooperate with the gangsters who simply took advantage of the disastrous financial situation of this immigrant from donbass.

* - translation:

"I want to declare that I have slandered a person. anna chervinskaya approached me through a friend and promised a large sum of money for help. I had to write a statement, as if a man from russia (alex nasonov, ceo worldcore - my note) seemed to have stolen 5,000 US dollars from me. they said that he was a bad man. and I fit into a dubious topic - gave false testimony for the money to this person. a criminal case was opened against him. I really needed the money. now I am taking consequences. I was framed, paid and forced to slander a person. it turned out that alexander prochukhan, the creator of the financial pyramid questra world, needed to be swept away from his tracks. and now he is on the run and it turns out that I am with him now like his criminal partner. anna is his sister. now I am threatened. if I tell you more, I will not see my family"

Are there any verifiable news sources or court documents for that ? I some countries court documents are accessible online.

Anyone can type up a statement and post it on the internet. I am trying to establish facts on verifiable evidence.

Serious allegations require serious proof.

[akarmin]

In Ukraine, such documents are protected by a secret investigation. Obviously, this image was written by rogues in Photoshop. No one can obtain such information in a legal way.

I can just guess that law-enforcement agents who invested in ukraine and suffered from the questra financial pyramid organized by prochukhan, decided to retaliate and leaked the document.

[mikal_akut]

Mein Gott.
What was it? Where did you get this, on which site?

https://ibb.co/gQk8Z9

Hi, Marina! Haven't seen you for so long! 

I will help you and answer the question the response for which you know better than me: there can be just one official website in Ukraine that can provide such a document https://erdr.gp.gov.ua/ If Alex Nasonov is accused of creating a scam project, he, as a suspected person, has an access to this database on a criminal case. So, there is no any reason to fabricate the document if the criminal case, according to you, really exists.

[xtraelv]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.



https://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/f8e9cf3e-bfca-4392-ab44-8a3ff74435ea

12_20283913

 

 ARBITER COURT OF CITY OF MOSCOW

 115191, Moscow, ul.  Bolshaya Tulskashch d. 17
 11pr: "'h" p'chchnpp1z1.satttt.sh

 DECISION
 (in the order of Art. 176 of the APC RF)

 Moscow Case Mg A40-b0b20. = '18-12-398
 October 16, 2018

 The Arbitration Court of the city of Moscow in the composition:

 Judges - Chadova A_S_

 court record-shia compiled by the assistant judge Kuznetsova N.A.
 examined in the court case on the application

 1) Czech limited liability company "EUPSProvayder sr.o."

 (Czech Republic) 2) General Director of the Czech Limited
 Responsibility "EUPSProvayder sr.o." (Czech Republic) Nasonov Aleksey Vlasnnrovich

 the defendant: Ltd. "Rusbeys" (BIN 1127746119841, RP-W 7729703526)
 protection of business reputation
 attended the meeting: according to the protocol.

 REC] IL:
 To meet the requirements refuse in full.

 The decision may be appealed to the Nine Arbitration Court of Appeal in
 within one month from the date of its adoption.

 Judge: A.S. Chadov

I'm not familiar with Russian law. In most countries civil proceedings have lower standards than criminal law.

Also failure to secure a prosecution is not proof that what was printed is correct.

Most legal systems provide for journalistic legal privilege.

[akarmin]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.

marina, get calm down, please! it's not written in the jugde decision that worldcore is a scam (as you are trying to force), it's written that the moscow arbitration court refused to meet the requirements. and this is the most interesting moment. the fact itself that rusbase deleted the article before the court session could have led to requirements' meeting refusal

[xtraelv]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.

marina, get calm down, please! it's not written in the jugde decision that worldcore is a scam (as you are trying to force), it's written that the moscow arbitration court refused to meet the requirements. and this is the most interesting moment. the fact itself that rusbase deleted the article before the court session could have led to requirements' meeting refusal

In a lot of countries there is a legal defense called "honest opinion". As long as the journalist can show that they based their opinion on information that led to their reasonable opinion at the time they are immune from a defamation lawsuits. However if they receive information to the contrary later that contradicts that and by applying that newly gained knowledge does not lead to a reasonable opinion anymore they have to stop publishing that opinion (in the case of online content)  it in order to be eligible for such defense.

[akarmin]

Do you have doubts that the criminal case really exists?

Perhaps you also doubt this decision of the Moscow court?

The Moscow Arbitration Court in the case of the protection of the business reputation of Worldcore (EUPSProvider sr.o.) to the defendant Rusbase refused to meet the requirements in full.

The publication wrote that the project - scam. Worldsore sued the web site. The court recognized that the publication is completely and unconditionally right.

marina, get calm down, please! it's not written in the jugde decision that worldcore is a scam (as you are trying to force), it's written that the moscow arbitration court refused to meet the requirements. and this is the most interesting moment. the fact itself that rusbase deleted the article before the court session could have led to requirements' meeting refusal

In a lot of countries there is a legal defense called "honest opinion". As long as the journalist can show that they based their opinion on information that led to their reasonable opinion at the time they are immune from a defamation lawsuits. However if they receive information to the contrary later that contradicts that and by applying that newly gained knowledge does not lead to a reasonable opinion anymore they have to stop publishing that opinion (in the case of online content)  it in order to be eligible for such defense.

exactly! rusbase's lawyers understand this - so, I suppose that was the reason they deleted the article. one more note:
only the operative part of the court session is given. the protocol one is not in the public access, unfortunatelly. let's hope that the representatives of worldcore will post it. it would be interesting to study the arguments.

[xtraelv]

Worldcore employees use fake names: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

What happened: Worldcore employees use fake names and write fake reviews.

<snip>
You can find this photo in the complaint review about Worldcore: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/worldcore-worldcoreeu/internet/worldcore-worldcoreeu-upsprovider-sro-online-payment-scams-payment-provider-scams-1312530
<snip>

The ripoff report which you quoted is a massive scam itself.
Using it as evidence is completely unreliable.
http://drjaniceduffy.com/ripoff-report/

It is blocked in Europe due the content not being in compliance with European laws.

The ripoff report is facing potential criminal charges by the Italian Authorities. It has a multi-million dollar judgement against it in St. Kitts & Nevis, and is facing numerous lawsuits in the USA with possible criminal charges to follow.

Ripoff report is an illegal scam in most countries but the founder refuses to pay overseas judgement.

Just some of the many court orders against the founder of the ripoff report.

Alleged evidence of extortion and writing fake reviewsby xcentric ventures

More allegations of a criminal conspiracy by the ripoff report

<snip>

The website is owned by Ed Magedson who makes it particularly difficult for process servers to find him. While he claims not to remove anything from his website. He will remove it for a ongoing fee. The ripoff report is currently in serious trouble in several jurisdictions.

In March 2017, the Italian Data Protection Authority affirmed that Ripoff Report's activities — namely, Ed Magedson's requests for money to edit web pages — are illegal in Italy. The Italian authorities also noticed that Ripoff Report's web servers are occasionally not reachable from Italy in order to evade controls by the authorities themselves. Besides, they noticed that some web pages — which were being investigated by the authorities — were deleted out of the blue by the website owner, despite the claim that Ripoff Report does not remove reports.

A federal court stated that victims have "probable cause to sue for extortion and racketeering". http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-real-rip-off-report-6445677
http://drjaniceduffy.com/2017/05/ed-magedson-ripoff-report-darren-meade-sued-for-60-million/
http://drjaniceduffy.com/2017/05/ed-magedson-ripoff-report-darren-meade-obstruction-of-justice/

According to ripoffreport, you sent them information and content that should not be relied upon... and the accuracy of the information you sent them relies on anonymous authors and commenters.  

3. ONLINE CONTENT

Opinions, advice, statements, offers, or other information or content made available through Ripoff Report are those of their respective authors and not of Xcentric, and should not necessarily be relied upon. Such authors are solely responsible for the accuracy of such content.

Xcentric does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information on Ripoff Report and neither adopts nor endorses nor is responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any opinion, advice or statement made. Under no circumstances will Xcentric be responsible for any loss or damage resulting from anyone's reliance on information or other content posted on Ripoff Report.

https://www.ripoffreport.com/terms-of-service

Repeating false accusations without proof can result in defamation proceedings.

WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Worldcore - Fake names of employees
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

Worldcore - Fake diploma of CEO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039485.0

Why so many threads ? It makes it hard to reply.

The same image of Alex Sol / Alexey Solonsky / Richard Bracke from another site: https://worldcore.pissedconsumer.com/worldcore-worldcore-eu-aka-eupsprovider-s-r-o-20160621869125.html

7 Proven. ☑    - Worldcore writing own positive reviews

I have seen some Worldcore shills that write false reviews.

It is relatively obvious by reading the reviews.

8 Not proven. ☒�  - Fake social media profile of Alexey

However with the "fake profiles".

1) They are on a third party social media site. Anyone can make a fake profile on there - it is not necessarily done by the person in the photo.

2) It is reasonably common for people to use fake profiles on social media or to shorten their names or use Nicknames.

Alexey Solonsky using Alex Sol is quite acceptable and is not hiding the their identity.

I'm neither convinced that Alexey Solonsky made the Richard Bracke profile nor that it "fooled" anyone. It would be downright stupid to use your own photo on a social media site and identify your employer but use a fake name.

I have a strong suspicion that the profile was set up by someone other than Alexey Solonsky.

Using fake identities are worrying if they are used on the whitepaper or official company web pages. Using a different name on a social media site is relatively common. The way that the profile is presented makes me very suspicious about who would benefit from making such an obvious link to the profile.

Some murky tactics have been used by both sides of this dispute.

[tmfp]

WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Worldcore - Fake names of employees
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

Worldcore - Fake diploma of CEO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039485.0

Why so many threads ? It makes it hard to reply.

Yes, it's a sprawling antagonistic mess that now includes this thread, which was specifically about a death threat (dealt with in the first few posts), but has turned into an unmoderated regurgitation of "He said she said" posting, which should be deleted as off topic and, ideally, this thread closed.

[akarmin]

WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Worldcore - Fake names of employees
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053167.0

Worldcore - Fake diploma of CEO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039485.0

Why so many threads ? It makes it hard to reply.

Yes, it's a sprawling antagonistic mess that now includes this thread, which was specifically about a death threat (dealt with in the first few posts), but has turned into an unmoderated regurgitation of "He said she said" posting, which should be deleted as off topic and, ideally, this thread closed.

the fact is that marina (eduard) whose indentity is closed and not revealed as she stated herself, feels perfectly and is not afraid of being uncovered. I conclude that she is not fear for her (his) life at all.
moreover, her (his) colleagues stated that fintecheu is a personal profile of alex nasonov (that is also false and not proven) and it was allegedly him who threatened her:

It is necessary to say that the Worldcore company calls itself an "transparent european organization", although the Worldcore manager FintechEU does not disclose his name and position in the company for entire year despite the fact that he was asked to do this many times. Worldcore turned off the website worldcore.com with the list of their employees and the Roadmap and you can't find them on Worldcore web resourses anymore.

I suppose she (he) has a personal animosity to ceo worldcore alex nasonov.

[bluefirecorp_]

No one gives a shit about your petty disputes.

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

However, there doesn't seem to be an obvious "i'm gonna kill you", so both you twats stop the bickering and shut the fuck up.

No one cares about your scam token, ico, or whatever the hell the bloody fucking scam is.

If you rip off people, maybe you should fear for your life. Fuck con-artist.

[akarmin]

No one gives a shit about your petty disputes.

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

However, there doesn't seem to be an obvious "i'm gonna kill you", so both you twats stop the bickering and shut the fuck up.

No one cares about your scam token, ico, or whatever the hell the bloody fucking scam is.

If you rip off people, maybe you should fear for your life. Fuck con-artist.

pretty emotional post! but the truth is that nobody cares about emotions, people are interested in facts.
if you are not interested in this thread, you can pass it by, but you didin't do this - so, live with it, darling.

I have hooked on it for months as I invested in this token, so I do really care:

[compelito]

Isn't this over yet? I think this should already be locked.

locked wat ?the thread ?? I agree with you !! its a bit far-fetched

[akarmin]

Isn't this over yet? I think this should already be locked.

locked wat ?the thread ?? I agree with you !! its a bit far-fetched

keep calm. I suppose the reason of creating so many threads about worldcore lies in decreasing attention that other users pay to the prevoius ones. it's easier to draw attention to the new thread with a few posts rather than to the thread with over 1000 messages

[myrthme]

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

Sounds sarcastically!))
Marina wishes there would be a real threat. And if there was a such one, I bet she would be the first who went to the police and filed an application. Do you see the screenshot of the paper?) I don't!)))

[akarmin]

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

Sounds sarcastically!))
Marina wishes there would be a real threat. And if there was a such one, I bet she would be the first who went to the police and filed an application. Do you see the screenshot of the paper?) I don't!)))

in the context of blackmailing and creating allegedly "scam" reputation, it's better (more profitable) for her to spread rumors rather than go to the police and file an application. she will never do this herself as there's no body of a crime

[myrthme]

Even if there was a threat such as "i'll come to your house and murder you in your sleep" - there still needs to be means and motive.

Sounds sarcastically!))
Marina wishes there would be a real threat. And if there was a such one, I bet she would be the first who went to the police and filed an application. Do you see the screenshot of the paper?) I don't!)))

in the context of blackmailing and creating allegedly "scam" reputation, it's better (more profitable) for her to spread rumors rather than go to the police and file an application. she will never do this herself as there's no body of a crime

Well, who knows what she has inside her head. But there's no doubt she has a financial interest in the topic concerning Worldcore. No one would spend so much time trying to collect a package of negative evidence against Worldcore. I wonder how much totally she influenced the token price making such a campaign?
By the way, who knows, how much does it cost? 

[akarmin]

Well, who knows what she has inside her head. But there's no doubt she has a financial interest in the topic concerning Worldcore. No one would spend so much time trying to collect a package of negative evidence against Worldcore. I wonder how much totally she influenced the token price making such a campaign?
By the way, who knows, how much does it cost? 

nobody but marina will answer this question to you. taking into account that she spends here days in and days out, she, probably, earns an average moscow salary that is about $2000-2500.
but it's only guesses, not more