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Question: How many people feel that the Crypto-market is being manipulated?
For sure, all the way. - 9 (42.9%)
Quite a bit. - 7 (33.3%)
A little. - 4 (19%)
Not much at all, actually. - 0 (0%)
Never. - 1 (4.8%)
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September 12, 2018, 01:06:09 PM
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I was expecting that For Sure all the way will get more votes and thats what happening here. Yes, everyone knows very well that market manipulation is prime business here to make some good fortune. Who does that ? Off course the whales are big players in that and they will always keep doing such things all the time for their own benefit. They dont care if you are loosing money because in this game someone has to loose their money so that others can gain from it. For example, whenever there is panic seller who is selling his BTC at cheap rates then at the same time whales would be buying it. And create situation like this, market needs to be manipulated badly and they do it all the time.
I guess what I don't understand is how they make money if they sell at a loss? If they are pumping and dumping, then why is there more dumping than pumping?

They don't sell at a loss

Intentionally they are buying at cheap price from panicking people

then Its where the pump comes in

an easy profit from the whales

Though sometimes whales, eat their own


Always an easy profit for them as long as the market keeps remaining speculative in nature. This is one of the reasons why we have always said things like people should focus more on the currency aspect and the value it brings as well as real life usage than wanting to get rich overnight.

As long as there are people with such emotions and they tend to be a reactionary investor based on price movement and speculation, then they are the ones the whales obviously target and for that reason, they tend to gain so much from manipulating the market.
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September 12, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
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Market manipulators are nasty souls, they basically enter a market, and either drive prices up, then sell out causing a crash after momentum has developed, or they drive prices down to buy cheaply. I've seen both and they can be deadly.I'm not so much complaining about this as much as I'm trying to spread awareness, or at least confirm my suspicions, though, I'm pretty sure. My goal is to inform other, less shady crypto users like myself so maybe we can all benefit from these.

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September 12, 2018, 07:53:18 PM
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I am 100% certain that the whales, institutions and governments individuals are colluding with one another to alter the prices, it is human nature to be greedy even if it is at the expense of millions. The best way to avoid this situation is to be a whale yourself, and that's quite difficult to achieve nowadays.


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September 12, 2018, 08:10:45 PM
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I think that the market is completely manipulative. Exchanges and whales are now profitable that the price of bitcoin was such, so they will in every way restrain it from growth. It will grow when its becomes profitable for whales.
People are just a crowd that always acts the same in the same situations. Whales simply create certain conditions, and the crowd reacts in the same way and acts according to the created situation. Unfortunately, we, simple people are beyond the power to change anything, we just try to make money in these terms.


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September 12, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
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It is still a mystery with market movements this year that have experienced the collapse of all altcoins as if it would be like extinction of many of my news theory opinions as people down just sitting frantically watching the real events on the field

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September 13, 2018, 01:02:08 AM
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I am 100% certain that the whales, institutions and governments individuals are colluding with one another to alter the prices, it is human nature to be greedy even if it is at the expense of millions. The best way to avoid this situation is to be a whale yourself, and that's quite difficult to achieve nowadays.

It might be human nature to be greedy, I can agree with that. But it's extremely unlikely that any one group of actors is capable of collusion on this scale. Back in the old days when there were only a handful of exchanges, maybe. But now the market is very distributed and global, with much more order book depth than years ago.

Manipulating the price upwards at these prices across all markets would take ridiculous amounts of capital, on deposit at unregulated and opaque foreign exchanges no less. Manipulating the price downwards requires ridiculous amounts of BTC, which is much harder to come by. There are less whales than you think. The ones stupid enough to try pushing prices around don't stay whales for long. Wink

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