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September 20, 2018, 02:48:38 PM
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I think its possible to amplify or pick up crime as a result of gambling experience. In particular, more so I think, in relation to old fashion walk in casinos.

Any person who has got addicted to gambling the chances of happening of crime also increases with that cases. Though it will a few % among that addictions who can commit crime and it will happen when they lose all their money and want more to gamble.


Do you really know cases of gamblers who lost money in a casino, went out and stole from someone or robbed someone at gunpoint to be able to get back to game? Never heard of anything like it. Gamblers aren't some hardcore criminals and they aren't blinded by drugs when they are playing. If they see an opportunity they'll take it but they won't start killing people to be able to play.
You have no never heard about this but this is a fact and the reason is that addicted gambler want money for their addiction and to get some money they can do anything illegal but they want money at any cost. I have seen so many cases. Most of the robbers are gamblers because they rob and loot people to fulfill their addiction. When one thing is illegal why not so many?
I believe so.Even in our country i see a lot of addicted gamblers who rob expensive properties like jewelries,branded shirts or shoes or even high priced smart phones just to fulfill their gambling addiction.Gambling may be good for some but most of the time it can create crimes due to the greediness of gamblers themselves.

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September 20, 2018, 03:51:29 PM
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It's bias to think that gambling can lead to crime. Not everyone that gambles initiate in crime, though, I guess some of the reasons why gambling is been related or afflicted to crime is because some gamblers gets addicted to gambling easily and this addiction moves them to do unthinkable things when they have the urge to play but can't afford it.
We cannot deny that the gambling environment is very negative and even gambling is labeled by many people as a negative action. You are right, not all gamblers have negative behavior but most people who do gambling are those who always do criminal things. So, everyone thinks gambling as a criminal act is normal because it looks at most gamblers who always do negative things.
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September 20, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
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Absolutely that's that's truly correct, gambling in casina are prone of illegal crimes
Number one reason some of the ganbler but not all of the gamblers use prohibited drugs because they want to alert and active mind body resistance

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September 20, 2018, 05:09:04 PM
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This is one of the reason why gambling is illegal in my country. Domestic violence, drugs, prostitution, theft  and money laundering, these crimes were rising when gambling was not illegal. The increase in crime rates actually lead to the prohibition of gambling. Physical casinos are prone to crimes more than online casinos.

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September 20, 2018, 08:08:04 PM
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Well we can consider Money laundering as one of the biggest Crime Effects.

That's why all Countries should take in consideration taxing.

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September 20, 2018, 08:58:00 PM
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Well we can consider Money laundering as one of the biggest Crime Effects.

That's why all Countries should take in consideration taxing.

Taxing won't resolve the issue. If you tax casinos they will have to increase their fees and every single user will have to pay for it. At the same time those who launder money through casinos won't care if they have to pay a few hundred more per month. They are saving much more on taxes by doing it than they can ever lose in fees.
Aslo, if the casino is in on it it hides the income so taxing it won't help because the laundered money is off the books.
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September 20, 2018, 10:18:25 PM
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Well we can consider Money laundering as one of the biggest Crime Effects.

That's why all Countries should take in consideration taxing.

Taxing won't resolve the issue. If you tax casinos they will have to increase their fees and every single user will have to pay for it. At the same time those who launder money through casinos won't care if they have to pay a few hundred more per month. They are saving much more on taxes by doing it than they can ever lose in fees.
Aslo, if the casino is in on it it hides the income so taxing it won't help because the laundered money is off the books.

Who said anything about taxing Casinos? Do you even know what governments taxing is really about?

It's on the last far end side of a transaction....

After you send ur crypto coins from fiat to bank or withdraw money.

Government takes taxes from your winning funds not from Casino.

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September 21, 2018, 09:58:58 AM
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I do not really think so. Gambling has nothing to do with criminal activities. However, you can find a drug dealer who is into gambling. Gambling is just a way to have fun and get more money. That's all. Added to that, people do have their side activities like being drug dealers or go into prostitution. They also can gamble. But that does not mean that gambling incite them to do those things. There are many casino's owners who are not doing shady things.
In my country gambling itself is a crime and the people who are gambling addicted are mostly criminals. It is very hard to lose your hard earn money every time in gambling. To avoid this thing they commit crimes to get some money because they do not want to lose their own money or they don’t have any money. In simple words I can say that gambling and crimes are connected with each other.
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September 21, 2018, 05:04:53 PM
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Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were

Criminals profit from business that is illegal. In places where gambling is legal, criminals do not profit from it.  Smiley

Gambling is similar to legalized marijuana. A big part of its negative stigma comes from illegalization and criminal activities which spring up as a result of state policy. Once legalized things become more manageable, prices decline, quality of product rises and criminal activity greatly ceases if it does not cease altogether.

Right now there are many who are demanding that governments ban and illegalize animal trophies. The downside with that type of heavy handed authoritarian approach is, making animal trophies illegal would increase their cost and give criminals yet another market to leverage for profits.

In some instances legalization of things like marijuana and gambling could be the better option, in contrast to illegalization of those things.

The thing is that aside from legalization, you'd also need somewhat strict control by the government.
Or else it is still very possible that casinos attract all sorts of illegal activities.

You can bet your ass that there are a ton of legal casinos, that do some money laundering on the side for criminals.

Legalize gambling, sure, but also build a clear set of rules around it and enforce them.

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September 21, 2018, 05:52:26 PM
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I do not really think so. Gambling has nothing to do with criminal activities. However, you can find a drug dealer who is into gambling. Gambling is just a way to have fun and get more money. That's all. Added to that, people do have their side activities like being drug dealers or go into prostitution. They also can gamble. But that does not mean that gambling incite them to do those things. There are many casino's owners who are not doing shady things.
In my country gambling itself is a crime and the people who are gambling addicted are mostly criminals. It is very hard to lose your hard earn money every time in gambling. To avoid this thing they commit crimes to get some money because they do not want to lose their own money or they don’t have any money. In simple words I can say that gambling and crimes are connected with each other.
Logical answer,but it doesn't menas all the gambers were criminals are spending the illegally obtained money some maybe have earned lot of money or even from their parent's properties so they are chose to gamble for spending their money.But gambling maybe good or bad for some reasons but it is not the reason for any crimes.









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September 21, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
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I do not really think so. Gambling has nothing to do with criminal activities. However, you can find a drug dealer who is into gambling. Gambling is just a way to have fun and get more money. That's all. Added to that, people do have their side activities like being drug dealers or go into prostitution. They also can gamble. But that does not mean that gambling incite them to do those things. There are many casino's owners who are not doing shady things.
In my country gambling itself is a crime and the people who are gambling addicted are mostly criminals. It is very hard to lose your hard earn money every time in gambling. To avoid this thing they commit crimes to get some money because they do not want to lose their own money or they don’t have any money. In simple words I can say that gambling and crimes are connected with each other.
Logical answer,but it doesn't menas all the gambers were criminals are spending the illegally obtained money some maybe have earned lot of money or even from their parent's properties so they are chose to gamble for spending their money.But gambling maybe good or bad for some reasons but it is not the reason for any crimes.
government can earn taxes from gambling too i dont see why a country doesnt want more taxes since it would help improve the country after all, people have a will to do everything they want from the money they earned its their decision to gamble it, i dont see a reason why gamblers are criminals that doesnt make any sense why would they label them as criminals its just people spending money.
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September 21, 2018, 06:13:02 PM
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I do not really think so. Gambling has nothing to do with criminal activities. However, you can find a drug dealer who is into gambling. Gambling is just a way to have fun and get more money. That's all. Added to that, people do have their side activities like being drug dealers or go into prostitution. They also can gamble. But that does not mean that gambling incite them to do those things. There are many casino's owners who are not doing shady things.
In my country gambling itself is a crime and the people who are gambling addicted are mostly criminals. It is very hard to lose your hard earn money every time in gambling. To avoid this thing they commit crimes to get some money because they do not want to lose their own money or they don’t have any money. In simple words I can say that gambling and crimes are connected with each other.

If just gambling itself is a crime in your country, that just means thatgambling is banned in your country right? That is the only reason why gambling will be a crime right? When it is banned. If a country does not ban Gambling, it is still legal. You can still gamble as long as you want. Gambling causes depression, regrets to gamblers and that mental disorders will cause the gambler to commit crimes.

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September 21, 2018, 06:59:02 PM
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Depends on what kind of "crime" you are talking about. Crime itself is a very broad topic. But, it is true gambling and crime is somewhat related specially with the people who are addicted to gambling. They might do anything to get money to gamble. They might end up mixing with the wrong people and engage in criminal activities. But I guess this is true for just few percentage of people. Better not generalize everyone.

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September 22, 2018, 05:48:33 AM
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I think its possible to amplify or pick up crime as a result of gambling experience. In particular, more so I think, in relation to old fashion walk in casinos.

Any person who has got addicted to gambling the chances of happening of crime also increases with that cases. Though it will a few % among that addictions who can commit crime and it will happen when they lose all their money and want more to gamble.


Do you really know cases of gamblers who lost money in a casino, went out and stole from someone or robbed someone at gunpoint to be able to get back to game? Never heard of anything like it. Gamblers aren't some hardcore criminals and they aren't blinded by drugs when they are playing. If they see an opportunity they'll take it but they won't start killing people to be able to play.
With addiction gambling problems in the family will be more chaotic, disputes and feelings of unhappiness will continue to haunt someone, especially when losing a bet. The warmth in the family diminishes during the act of playing gambling gambling and the like.

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September 22, 2018, 07:41:03 AM
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I don't think they are as intimately linked as they once were, back in the day, most gambling houses were controlled by criminal organizations such as the Mafia, which meant that mostly criminals and guys from the underworld would be involved. However, since it has been legalized, there is no longer any criminal association, it is as clean as can be in most cases, and even most crypto casinos are licensed nowadays.
They used to be intimately linked in the past (just wanted to use that word of yours), but in reality times have changed.
Yeah, there may be some casinos that still tend to do some illegal shits and then you get to see some criminal activities revolving around them, but that certainly depends on whether gambling is legalized and regulated or not.

For now, in most countries, it has been legalized and of course, opening a casino now requires you to get a license as a business man, and it is only someone who would want to jeopardize that, which would end up screwing up with illegal and immoral activities around the casino.
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A very good casino will make all of its customers not criminals and disturb comfort, it is not right if someone who mentions that a casino is a criminal place, maybe a fool who can provoke riots or spread negative viruses between players, defeat can provoke them to do anything to get money.  Cheesy

If these kind negative impact is there on investing with gambling and play casino then avoid it and stay away. If you need to make money choose the price and pick some coins like traders.
It will be retain and reboom the profit in your wallet with the comparison on USD.
Soon this gambling way of investment should be regulated more for sure.
Casinos are in some societies are assumes bad because all that done in casinos are illegal for some governments especially in third world countries. Gambling, drinking, dancing in some communities are bad things and are not allowed. In my country there is no casino because it is not a place for gentles. I can say that casino itself is a bad place because it provides you the gambling opportunity.
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September 22, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
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If you mean stuff like finding a crack at the website or the seed of provably fair and stealing from the casino directly than I do agree that it has a side effect like that however not all gamblers are hackers, some are just there to gamble, its the hackers who gamble that are creating these sort of criminal efforts to make money from easy ways.

If however you mean stuff like gamblers having debt to casinos and having hard time paying it back and going to life of crime to make payments than I do not think that is gambling related, that is just a crooked human who have been waiting for the right reasons to commit a crime.
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September 22, 2018, 04:26:42 PM
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Depends on what kind of "crime" you are talking about. Crime itself is a very broad topic. But, it is true gambling and crime is somewhat related specially with the people who are addicted to gambling. They might do anything to get money to gamble. They might end up mixing with the wrong people and engage in criminal activities. But I guess this is true for just few percentage of people. Better not generalize everyone.

We can't look at it like this. If a gambler loses all his money and then goes on a killing spree to make money, it's not the fault of the casino or gambling. There's something fundamentally wrong with that person. If he wasn't a gambler and lost his money some other way he would still kill to get the money back because deep inside he's a killer and that's where the problem lies. A normal person will lose money gambling and get a job to make it back. A psychopath will turn to crime and violence.

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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
this is truth that Bitcoin yours is going on in some bad well but it is not a truth that it is fully going and for stupid use because main reason behind this cryptocurrency use is there making money Not for illegal works.
Here I can say that with the investment in the cryptocurrency we can make profit/loss and here we think about ourself that we are right at our place that we are making money by the investment in perfect way , where in actual no any type of scam involve .
But here we need to keep in our mind that not everyone is simple and honest to make earnings , few people get into illegal activities to make earnings like high profile money laundering , at porn websites ( in actual not a illegal work but still it is better for us to hide our details ) .
Here most of the things looking simple in our views but the government authorities have lots of responsibility to make everything clear and transparent so that nothing goes illegal/bad that can give impact in the economy of the particular country or the world .
That why such types of the activities are going much against the government rules and leading into lots of negative news about cryptocurrency use .

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September 23, 2018, 09:25:36 PM
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this is truth that Bitcoin yours is going on in some bad well but it is not a truth that it is fully going and for stupid use

Really, like what the fuck does this sentence mean? Is this even in English? Looks like it but it has no sense, no cohesion, no nothing. A bunch of words glued together in a random way does not convey meaning and does not look like a legitimate post. Put some effort into it.

If you think that crime and gambling are connected go to las vegas and check if people are fighting in the streets for chips. If you make a casino in an area with a high crime rate it will only increase it. If you do it in a good neighbourhood nothing will change.
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