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There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.
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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this. Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were; Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.
The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.
For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default? For me, I believe that gambling have positive as well as negative sides on a person. Of course we are talking here about crime effect of gambling. So gambling may affect crime by means of the attitude of the person who are playing. For example, If the player eargerness to earn lead him to a greedy attitude and makes him act negatively. Also if a person who are losing cannot control his temper against to other players makes them to a fight. If a person doesn't have any discipline, crime may affect.
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September 24, 2018, 06:24:18 AM |
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Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
We cant really oppose on such thing since we do know into most people who do play on a casino do really have that money which those drug dealers and prostitutes do really want to stay on that place since they do know the potential on getting on what they want because of financial capability.This is not actually a surprising thing and as said this would only depend on the individual if he would like to involve himself into those illegal doings but if you do just get to that place for pure entertainment and no other than that then you wont really make yourself attached to it. Criminal effect will always vary on the numbers who decide to set in. Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.
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September 24, 2018, 06:50:55 AM |
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Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
We cant really oppose on such thing since we do know into most people who do play on a casino do really have that money which those drug dealers and prostitutes do really want to stay on that place since they do know the potential on getting on what they want because of financial capability.This is not actually a surprising thing and as said this would only depend on the individual if he would like to involve himself into those illegal doings but if you do just get to that place for pure entertainment and no other than that then you wont really make yourself attached to it. Criminal effect will always vary on the numbers who decide to set in. Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things. That makes no sense at all, for the criminals to gather in one place. The casinos would have been busted already. I think known criminals hangout elsewhere. Those that you are describing are those that aren't wanted persons. They have possibly done crimes in the past but never got caught. I really wouldn't say that such things root from gambling. Gambling roots from something else which is greed. Everything's rooted from greed. Everyone wants everything. The ones who don't want to do something illegal will give gambling a shot. It's why everyone's so crazy about the lottery. Everyone's hoping that one day their lucky day will come. It's a messed up world. Everyone's consumed by greed. The new luxury these days is being genuinely content and happy with little things.
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September 24, 2018, 09:18:10 AM |
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Gone are the days where gambling is only associated with criminal activities and the mentality is what a lot of people have carried from that time past till this moment. This view is actually not limited to any particular region its one of the most universal myopic view.
I want to believe that mentality based on how gambling has been perceived right from the onset is actually the main reason why a lot of people still link criminal activities with gambling related activities. Now, that there are regulations in some casinos, and they obviously will not want their license taken away from them, or the owner being in a mess with the government for illegal activities, I am sure a lot of criminal activities have been curtailed in the gambling world. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.
I guess anyone from this gambling community will agree with you as no one could predict what a frustrated gambler will do. Also, ending up in severe frustration in gambling is a most common event, we do see both in online and physical casino. An addicted gambler may turn as a criminal at any time as their urge to continue gambling may enforce them to do anything.
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September 26, 2018, 12:32:19 PM |
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Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
We cant really oppose on such thing since we do know into most people who do play on a casino do really have that money which those drug dealers and prostitutes do really want to stay on that place since they do know the potential on getting on what they want because of financial capability.This is not actually a surprising thing and as said this would only depend on the individual if he would like to involve himself into those illegal doings but if you do just get to that place for pure entertainment and no other than that then you wont really make yourself attached to it. Criminal effect will always vary on the numbers who decide to set in. Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things. That makes no sense at all, for the criminals to gather in one place. The casinos would have been busted already. I think known criminals hangout elsewhere. Those that you are describing are those that aren't wanted persons. They have possibly done crimes in the past but never got caught. I really wouldn't say that such things root from gambling. Gambling roots from something else which is greed. Everything's rooted from greed. Everyone wants everything. The ones who don't want to do something illegal will give gambling a shot. It's why everyone's so crazy about the lottery. Everyone's hoping that one day their lucky day will come. It's a messed up world. Everyone's consumed by greed. The new luxury these days is being genuinely content and happy with little things. Many gamblers that still use to go to regular casinos are still criminals, because they can do every illegal activity form which they can get some money. These people are gambling addicted and when they have no money they will even kill innocent people to rob them. Online gamblers are not criminals because they have no social activities related to their gambling.
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September 26, 2018, 01:35:58 PM |
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I don't think that the crime activity increased by the gambling it is just like the people involving in gambling maybe related to the crimes but most of the time only normal man just earn money hardly and get lost their money by gambling because of their addiction.But there are some illegal casino run by the criminals where the gambling is prohibited causing the crime activities.
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September 26, 2018, 04:23:24 PM |
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The OP seems to imply that somehow gambling increases illegal activities and gives the example of prostitution and the consumption of drugs, but what gambling does at best is to attract those kind of people because they know that the people inside the casino have money to spare, but gambling in itself does not increase those activities, those activities will happen anyway, however there are some crimes that could go up due to the influence of gambling, for example those that are addicted to gambling will probably steal money to try to feed their addiction.
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September 26, 2018, 07:30:07 PM |
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For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.
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September 26, 2018, 10:41:26 PM |
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There is a reason why gambling is addicting as it is a game where you could profit and make money but losing makes you play longer causing addiction. If you manage to check out the surroundings of a casino, sometimes it is possible that there are criminal activities near it. Maybe some of them will trigger the wanting of doing drugs or prostitution because of their sadness. It may affect, but it's by itself mostly.
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For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.
And where do you think a gambler's life lead? It's definitely leading to poverty since money is involved. Druggies only have to buy a dollar worth of drug and they are good to go. Gamblers, on the other hand, have you really seen a gambler lose one dollar in a casino and then move on? Drugs are far more cheaper than gambling. Once a gambler has lost everything due to gambling, and I'm talking about to the point where he had to sell his properties and belongings, he's going to be homeless and start doing bad things just to survive. At first it will be just as simple as lying, then manipulation, then comes the selling of the small things such as jewelries, and so on. You get the picture. Just so you know, it's not the drugs that makes people want to do crime. It's the addiction itself. They want to feed the addiction and so they commit crime. I mean, it would be so hard to steal when you're stoned. You can't even get off the couch. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 27, 2018, 05:38:58 AM |
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For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.
The addiction is the first thing that every gambler can get while they played gambling every day. But the crime effect is not just come only from gambling because the poverty is the one thing that might give an effect to the crime itself. So I don't think that gambling can gives effect to the crime, but maybe the crime can happen if the gambler needs money to continue playing gambling and he stole the money from other people.
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September 27, 2018, 01:04:52 PM |
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Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.
That makes no sense at all, for the criminals to gather in one place. The casinos would have been busted already. I think known criminals hangout elsewhere. Those that you are describing are those that aren't wanted persons. They have possibly done crimes in the past but never got caught. I really wouldn't say that such things root from gambling. Gambling roots from something else which is greed. Everything's rooted from greed. Everyone wants everything. The ones who don't want to do something illegal will give gambling a shot. It's why everyone's so crazy about the lottery. Everyone's hoping that one day their lucky day will come. It's a messed up world. Everyone's consumed by greed. The new luxury these days is being genuinely content and happy with little things. I really would say this mentality about crime being associated with casinos came from the initial stage where we ended up having a lot of criminals using casinos as a hang out most of the time, and over the years, which has become something of a general notion for most people when it comes to casino. However, in this day and age, a lot of things have changed. Now, casinos are regulated, you will even need a license before you can open one, and if you really do not want to get out of business, you would really want to be watchful of the sort of activities going on within the casino, so I would say this thing is something of the old time, except of course for places where crime rate naturally is huge and then there is actually no form of regulation at all.
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September 27, 2018, 01:18:01 PM |
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I believe some (offline) casinos themselves allow such immoral activities to be done at their place, for e.g.; giving high drug dose to their clients knowingly or to make use of girls (here: prostitutes) because they want to either break their winning streak by breaking their concentration in either ways. But as OP says, it is dependent upon the players themselves to the utmost levels whether their only intention is gambling or they want those drugs and/or prostitutes for their physical/mental needs. Gambling is nowhere related to crimes unless done under debts because then, the debtor tries to either run away or kill the creditor in case they feel uncertain about the possibilities for them repaying back, and the same applies for creditors when debtors don't repay, either these creditors use harsh ways like extortion attempts to make them repay or maybe kill them.
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September 27, 2018, 03:38:36 PM |
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There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.
I think its influence is not only from the external as you say but also from your own internal, because I could see how gambling addiction will be the same as drug addiction, in the news someone stole money in a store because they want to back in gamble
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September 27, 2018, 05:34:37 PM |
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There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.
I think its influence is not only from the external as you say but also from your own internal, because I could see how gambling addiction will be the same as drug addiction, in the news someone stole money in a store because they want to back in gamble If people have ost their saving or borrowed money then the trouble can starts as they now do not have any money to live their life or replay the amount taken. And by now they would be addicted to gambling so they require more money to play as well and crime starts from here.
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September 27, 2018, 05:44:01 PM |
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There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.
I think its influence is not only from the external as you say but also from your own internal, because I could see how gambling addiction will be the same as drug addiction, in the news someone stole money in a store because they want to back in gamble If people have ost their saving or borrowed money then the trouble can starts as they now do not have any money to live their life or replay the amount taken. And by now they would be addicted to gambling so they require more money to play as well and crime starts from here. Borrowing money to gamble is stupidest thing addicted gamblers ever do. They hope that, they could win big and pay back loans but, more often it never happens. In online casinos it leads to scamming other players while in physical casinos, it will lead to even more dangerous situations like threatening, blackmailing and other crimes.
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September 27, 2018, 06:16:10 PM |
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From what I know Casinos and other vices such as bars and clubs are needed to have a certain distance between them in certain establishments like schools, churches, and colleges which they are required by law to follow. So in other words most of the vices and entertainment establishments always go in a one spot where all of them can operate legally, this entertainment zones also attract unwanted people who what they are doing are illegal as because these is where the money flows and people like them most certainly are customers of this kinds of places. I don't think it is necessarily the casinos' fault but they all attract different kinds of people whether they are good or bad.
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September 27, 2018, 07:12:24 PM |
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For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.
So do you agree that it increases or not? Because on one side you say it doesn't then you say it does ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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September 28, 2018, 08:26:07 AM |
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I don't think that the crime activity increased by the gambling it is just like the people involving in gambling maybe related to the crimes but most of the time only normal man just earn money hardly and get lost their money by gambling because of their addiction.But there are some illegal casino run by the criminals where the gambling is prohibited causing the crime activities.
People involved in gambling are not generally related to criminal activities and even though we might say some immoral stuff may be going on once in a while, as you will definitely see sometimes, prostitutes maybe trying to hang around but in such cases, we all know it is there business and business owners tend to flock to places where they can have potential customers ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ... Nonetheless, regulation of casinos have really changed a lot of things over the years and even though there may still be some immoral activities, but for criminal activities, I would not say it is a thing anymore.
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