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September 28, 2018, 03:30:29 AM
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@harizen. But does Manny not have unresolved problems with the IRS? I might be mistaken but that might be the reason why his last fights were made outside America.


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September 28, 2018, 04:00:38 AM
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...but it will be more exciting if it is held at a neutral venue.

They can't produced a big money other than Vegas so "I think" it will not be considered. Mayweather is not that type of boxer that will deal on small amount. He have a high standard in terms of location. Considering that hype is not there anymore because it's all about money, they can't risks to held the venue on not a famous venue.

Well anyways there is no such thing as 100% official plan so we just have to wait for it.

@harizen. But does Manny not have unresolved problems with the IRS? I might be mistaken but that might be the reason why his last fights were made outside America.



This week is supposed to be the announcement. Vegas is the venue as of the sources that's why I don't think it will be held on a "neutral venue".

Again let's wait if they will announce some insights on the expected bout on December this week.

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September 28, 2018, 08:08:50 AM
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@Kemarit. Many fans will certainly be there and pay overpriced tickets to watch this. The same as there are bagholders who bought tokens from ICO scammers hehehehe.

In any case, we saw how the first fight ended so badly. Floyd and Manny should stop squeezing their fans for more money and should not fight again, I reckon.

I only want this fight to live up to its name, unlike the previous fight...

Of course we wanted them to fight and live up to its hype. But the problem I see is that both of them (at least Manny Pacquiao) is already on the brink of his career and he is past his prime already. I love that he won against a overrated Mattysse but for me its not a yardstick for his next fight. Remember there's a saying in boxing that "boxer gets old overnight". We have witnessed that in Oscar Dela Hoya when he fought a young and aggressive Manny back then. So I don't think that the second fight will live up to expectations.

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September 28, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
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@Kemarit. Many fans will certainly be there and pay overpriced tickets to watch this. The same as there are bagholders who bought tokens from ICO scammers hehehehe.

In any case, we saw how the first fight ended so badly. Floyd and Manny should stop squeezing their fans for more money and should not fight again, I reckon.

I only want this fight to live up to its name, unlike the previous fight...

Of course we wanted them to fight and live up to its hype. But the problem I see is that both of them (at least Manny Pacquiao) is already on the brink of his career and he is past his prime already. I love that he won against a overrated Mattysse but for me its not a yardstick for his next fight. Remember there's a saying in boxing that "boxer gets old overnight". We have witnessed that in Oscar Dela Hoya when he fought a young and aggressive Manny back then. So I don't think that the second fight will live up to expectations.
Has there been a name for this event yet? Everyone knows for sure that they are past their prime and just wants more and more, it concerns about money. I agree with you that the second fight would be different and I hope that it would really be fair in a way. Give a better second fight and more money would come in. Additionally, some trash talkers effectively market it so that more people would come in, resulting in more money to squeeze as they said.

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September 28, 2018, 08:38:40 PM
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Any fight mayweather plays becomes really boring way too quickly. Even when he fought mcgregor a mma fighter the fight became really boring, mcgregor is a dude that is "entertainer" at heart instead of a real boxer, he is a great fighter but not a boxer, even with an "entertainer" somehow mayweather managed to make his fight boring.

Pac is great and all but I do not think people will flock to it like they did last time, people did not know mayweather very well until his name got big and when we saw the pac fight and mcgregor fight we realized he has a boring style, a great style to win maybe but sucks to watch.
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September 29, 2018, 10:32:02 AM
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This week is supposed to be the announcement. Vegas is the venue as of the sources that's why I don't think it will be held on a "neutral venue".

Seriously? Vegas again? If this is true, then I am not going to subscribe to PPV. Why waste money on a match which is more like WWF rather than real boxing? The Vegas judges are super-biased and unless Manny gets a KO, it is going to be Mayweather. 

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September 29, 2018, 12:03:34 PM
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This week is supposed to be the announcement. Vegas is the venue as of the sources that's why I don't think it will be held on a "neutral venue".

Seriously? Vegas again? If this is true, then I am not going to subscribe to PPV. Why waste money on a match which is more like WWF rather than real boxing? The Vegas judges are super-biased and unless Manny gets a KO, it is going to be Mayweather. 

I'm pretty sure that there are options but Vegas is the gambling site and Mayweather really loves to fight in front of his hometown so I wouldn't be surprised in they fought in that place.

Well we all know that Mayweather is going to win this fight so it doesn't matter where the place will be, unless he get one lucky punch that put Floyd in the floor for good.

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September 29, 2018, 12:07:22 PM
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Any fight mayweather plays becomes really boring way too quickly. Even when he fought mcgregor a mma fighter the fight became really boring, mcgregor is a dude that is "entertainer" at heart instead of a real boxer, he is a great fighter but not a boxer, even with an "entertainer" somehow mayweather managed to make his fight boring.
Mayweather makes money, Mcgregor make fans! Their fight was most likely a paid event with more money paid to Gregor for losing. These fighters are never allowed to play at their own will.

Pac is great and all but I do not think people will flock to it like they did last time, people did not know mayweather very well until his name got big and when we saw the pac fight and mcgregor fight we realized he has a boring style, a great style to win maybe but sucks to watch.
It wouldn't suck to watch because the organisers will create the event in such a way that it raises the table of bets on every move, every minute and every round. So unpredictable, so interesting. In the end, the fixed match will be concluded with predefined results.

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September 29, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
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This week is supposed to be the announcement. Vegas is the venue as of the sources that's why I don't think it will be held on a "neutral venue".

Seriously? Vegas again? If this is true, then I am not going to subscribe to PPV. Why waste money on a match which is more like WWF rather than real boxing? The Vegas judges are super-biased and unless Manny gets a KO, it is going to be Mayweather. 

I'm pretty sure that there are options but Vegas is the gambling site and Mayweather really loves to fight in front of his hometown so I wouldn't be surprised in they fought in that place.

Well we all know that Mayweather is going to win this fight so it doesn't matter where the place will be, unless he get one lucky punch that put Floyd in the floor for good.

Im seeing Vegas too as the venue with higher chances. If that will be Mayweather's last fight, it should be there.

Look like there is still no progress or even update at the fight. Because of that, I remember Bob Arum's sarcastic comment recently that if the first fight takes 5 years in the making, this upcoming fight will take 4 years lol.
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This week is supposed to be the announcement. Vegas is the venue as of the sources that's why I don't think it will be held on a "neutral venue".

Seriously? Vegas again? If this is true, then I am not going to subscribe to PPV. Why waste money on a match which is more like WWF rather than real boxing? The Vegas judges are super-biased and unless Manny gets a KO, it is going to be Mayweather. 

I'm pretty sure that there are options but Vegas is the gambling site and Mayweather really loves to fight in front of his hometown so I wouldn't be surprised in they fought in that place.

Well we all know that Mayweather is going to win this fight so it doesn't matter where the place will be, unless he get one lucky punch that put Floyd in the floor for good.

Im seeing Vegas too as the venue with higher chances. If that will be Mayweather's last fight, it should be there.

Look like there is still no progress or even update at the fight. Because of that, I remember Bob Arum's sarcastic comment recently that if the first fight takes 5 years in the making, this upcoming fight will take 4 years lol.


It's going to attract big money none the less. The big names of these two fighter would be enough to rake in millions of dollars. Though the fight itself might not be that interesting since these two are well past their prime and we all know how mayweather fights right? Boring for many but extremely efficient.

 
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September 29, 2018, 05:51:00 PM
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@harizen. But does Manny not have unresolved problems with the IRS? I might be mistaken but that might be the reason why his last fights were made outside America.



I don't think so. If Manny had problem with his IRS the he should have not fight even outside USA. It's just shows that Manny is willing to fight in an arena that is outside USA.

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September 29, 2018, 09:47:39 PM
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@harizen. But does Manny not have unresolved problems with the IRS? I might be mistaken but that might be the reason why his last fights were made outside America.



I don't think so. If Manny had problem with his IRS the he should have not fight even outside USA. It's just shows that Manny is willing to fight in an arena that is outside USA.
Having an issue with the IRS or not. I think Mayweather fighting Manny Pacquiao after his retirement is just an excuse why not fight right before his retirement? I'm saying this because he believes there's possibility for him to loose the fight and he don't want to finish his career with bad record.

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September 29, 2018, 11:42:19 PM
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Having an issue with the IRS or not. I think Mayweather fighting Manny Pacquiao after his retirement is just an excuse why not fight right before his retirement? I'm saying this because he believes there's possibility for him to loose the fight and he don't want to finish his career with bad record.

With the last fight of Manny Pacquiao, we all had seen those past opponents of Manny taunting him for another fight, that includes Floyd Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao got a Knockout on his last fight triggering his opponents to fight him once again.

And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.

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September 30, 2018, 03:04:44 AM
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And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.

We don't need a rematch to answer that question. IMO, Floyd is better than Manny and that was confirmed during the first fight. Now you can have dozens of rematches, but the chances of a Manny victory in any of them would be very slim.
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September 30, 2018, 04:10:40 AM
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And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.

We don't need a rematch to answer that question. IMO, Floyd is better than Manny and that was confirmed during the first fight. Now you can have dozens of rematches, but the chances of a Manny victory in any of them would be very slim.

But not all of the people who watched the fight believe in that. There are a lot of people saying that Floyd is scared of Manny, I know that it is not true but they are saying it like that since they saw how Floyd fought Pacquiao which is the normal strategy of Mayweather.

In my country, most of the people look at Floyd Mayweather as a boxer that is far more below than Manny Pacquiao. They are used to the way Pacquiao fights, he fights head to head with his opponents which is the opposite of Floyd Mayweather's fighting style. For me, they are a great boxers that is just with opposite strategies the reason they can counter each other.

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September 30, 2018, 06:43:43 AM
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@harizen. But does Manny not have unresolved problems with the IRS? I might be mistaken but that might be the reason why his last fights were made outside America.



I don't think so. If Manny had problem with his IRS the he should have not fight even outside USA. It's just shows that Manny is willing to fight in an arena that is outside USA.
Manny got issues with the BIR back in the Philippines but it is now settled or given amnesty if i am not mistaken. I don't know what's with these fighters have issues with taxes when in fact they can hire the services of the best lawyers available.
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September 30, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
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Having an issue with the IRS or not. I think Mayweather fighting Manny Pacquiao after his retirement is just an excuse why not fight right before his retirement? I'm saying this because he believes there's possibility for him to loose the fight and he don't want to finish his career with bad record.

With the last fight of Manny Pacquiao, we all had seen those past opponents of Manny taunting him for another fight, that includes Floyd Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao got a Knockout on his last fight triggering his opponents to fight him once again.

And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.
You're right mate and with that been said. I'm also among the people that sees Manny as a better fighter than Floyd which I believed Floyd also knew he beat him out of luck and the same exact reason was the reason why he don't want to fight before his retirement.

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And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.

We don't need a rematch to answer that question. IMO, Floyd is better than Manny and that was confirmed during the first fight. Now you can have dozens of rematches, but the chances of a Manny victory in any of them would be very slim.
I won't say that neither of the two is better but I agree that let the first fight decides on its own. Manny lost and Floyd won that match so who's better? well the winner of course and the first fight's winner is Floyd.

A rematch would be different from their first match, they would learn from the first match unlike if its the first time they've met and they haven't boxed yet.

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October 01, 2018, 12:50:00 AM
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And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.

We don't need a rematch to answer that question. IMO, Floyd is better than Manny and that was confirmed during the first fight. Now you can have dozens of rematches, but the chances of a Manny victory in any of them would be very slim.
I won't say that neither of the two is better but I agree that let the first fight decides on its own. Manny lost and Floyd won that match so who's better? well the winner of course and the first fight's winner is Floyd.

A rematch would be different from their first match, they would learn from the first match unlike if its the first time they've met and they haven't boxed yet.
If you say it like that, it's definitely in that outcome of the first match where Floyd wins. I have read that in some sites and articles, that Manny should have won that match. I'm not an expert boxing analyst but Manny put on more shots but the defense of Floyd is incredible. I think they would use it to their advantage, knowing that it is the second time around, the mistakes and opportunities that they have failed to recognize during the match. Watching the replays put out a lot of information.

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October 01, 2018, 02:30:31 AM
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And with a lot of people saying Manny is better than Floyd, I guess this will be a period to that sentence, the answer that people will be seeing. Who is better, Manny or Floyd? A rematch should really answer that.

We don't need a rematch to answer that question. IMO, Floyd is better than Manny and that was confirmed during the first fight. Now you can have dozens of rematches, but the chances of a Manny victory in any of them would be very slim.
I won't say that neither of the two is better but I agree that let the first fight decides on its own. Manny lost and Floyd won that match so who's better? well the winner of course and the first fight's winner is Floyd.

A rematch would be different from their first match, they would learn from the first match unlike if its the first time they've met and they haven't boxed yet.
Tbh, i think it would be the same thing like the first match, boring fight from Mayweather and in the end mayweather win with points. I'm sure mayweather only think about money in this fight and play safe like usual his typical fight.

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