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August 01, 2019, 08:20:45 AM |
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Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There’s a lot of undefeated boxer in the history of boxing like Julio Cesar Chavez SR with having a standing of 89 wins and 0 losses, but until he makes a total of 115 fights before he retired 6 of that fights he got defeated. Still he accomplished more than from what Mayweather accomplished today. You are right, mayweather thought being an undefeated would make him an automatic great fighter or a GOAT. Manny Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a truly living Legend. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) That record will kill mayweather's undefeated record as only Manny has done that, he is a living legend who still fight champions at 40 years old.
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August 01, 2019, 11:55:55 AM |
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I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.
I've never heard of any prediction and even that Ruiz guy, it's just my opinion. Whatever is that, it's a mere coincidence.
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August 01, 2019, 07:56:56 PM |
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How much money does Floyd want to fight Pacman again? hehehe. Everyone has a price, I remember when he was all bark when Canelo sign a $300 m with DAZN, That's the way he wanted to stay relevant. So if ever he was offered a one fight deal with Pacman with $300 m or more, I'm sure he will bite, Lol.
I've seen a stat on how much Manny Pacquiao earned during their fight with Floyd and it's a staggering $120-million. And with that fight, Floyd got a higher share because it's part of their deal. I don't know on how much he'd love to ask for the share if ever this fight will ever happen again. But that's for sure, he'll ask for a higher share again than Manny. He will not be called 'Money' if he's going to allow his opponent get a higher share than him.I don't know when was the last time Floyd fought as an underdog but given the chance that they will fight again, Floyd still can dictate how much is his share since he won the first meeting, Manny will just accept whatever the terms being offered from Floyds camp since Manny is teh one running after Floyd to have a rematch. Too bad there is no rematch clause in the first contract. Manny will actually go along with an acceptable share for this fight. But let's admit it that Floyd is Floyd and he's not just going to accept a fight without something that will actually benefit him. I agree with the rematch attached for the contract, if there is a note probably Floyd cannot reject if there will be in the future but that's it. No rematch indicated so he can just retire for real.
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August 01, 2019, 08:03:12 PM |
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Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There’s a lot of undefeated boxer in the history of boxing like Julio Cesar Chavez SR with having a standing of 89 wins and 0 losses, but until he makes a total of 115 fights before he retired 6 of that fights he got defeated. Still he accomplished more than from what Mayweather accomplished today. Manny Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a truly living Legend. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Even Robert Garcia stated that its much harder to be a champion on eight different weight classes compared to being a 50-0 undefeated boxer. A coach who have been known to be against Pacquiao (He sided with Thurman picking him to win against Manny) have even agreed on that fact so I don't think you could argue with that. Oh and By the way Floyd was never an undefeated boxer he also experience a lost during his amateur career so I couldn't call him a true undefeated boxer.
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August 01, 2019, 10:56:03 PM |
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I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.
I've never heard of any prediction and even that Ruiz guy, it's just my opinion. Whatever is that, it's a mere coincidence. Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much. If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.
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August 01, 2019, 11:31:12 PM |
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Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much.
If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.
I don't agree that Mayweather is too goo for Manny, his strategy is good but if he change his strategy and try to engage in a fight and slug it out with Manny the story maybe different. If both fighters are on their peak and on the same weight category, I think Manny will beat Floyd because of his quickness and style.
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August 02, 2019, 03:00:15 AM |
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Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much.
If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.
I don't agree that Mayweather is too goo for Manny, his strategy is good but if he change his strategy and try to engage in a fight and slug it out with Manny the story maybe different. If both fighters are on their peak and on the same weight category, I think Manny will beat Floyd because of his quickness and style. Manny was quicker the first time they met, but Floyd won via unanimous decision, I think people based on that past result a lot, unless you don't agree with the result.
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A business idea for Dana White, Al Haymon, Pacman and Floyd. Organize a boxing event with Floyd versus Khabib and Pacman versus Conor. The winners, which certainly will be Floyd and Pacman, will fight for the biggest purse in boxing history hehehehe!
I reckon it might also be Conor's opportunity of getting a rematch versus Khabib that he is always demanding from Dana.
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August 02, 2019, 05:56:47 AM |
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I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.
I've never heard of any prediction and even that Ruiz guy, it's just my opinion. Whatever is that, it's a mere coincidence. Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much. If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight. People tend to describe Floyd's style of "running". He's an athlete and running is part of his footwork. I know many have been annoyed with his move inside the ring but that's his strategy on how he had won against the people's champ.
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August 02, 2019, 06:05:58 AM |
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Even Robert Garcia stated that its much harder to be a champion on eight different weight classes compared to being a 50-0 undefeated boxer. A coach who have been known to be against Pacquiao (He sided with Thurman picking him to win against Manny) have even agreed on that fact so I don't think you could argue with that. Oh and By the way Floyd was never an undefeated boxer he also experience a lost during his amateur career so I couldn't call him a true undefeated boxer.
Floyd is just a boxer who used to fight for money and compare to a truly living legend who played boxing because it is his passion and sports, totally different. There’s also alot in the new era today in the boxing that is undefeated like Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford knowing that being a undefeated is a great accomplishment. And the fact that only one man in the history of boxing who holds 8 titles in different division are can truly be the hardest achievements that you can accomplished in the boxing history.
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August 02, 2019, 06:31:51 AM |
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Even Robert Garcia stated that its much harder to be a champion on eight different weight classes compared to being a 50-0 undefeated boxer. A coach who have been known to be against Pacquiao (He sided with Thurman picking him to win against Manny) have even agreed on that fact so I don't think you could argue with that. Oh and By the way Floyd was never an undefeated boxer he also experience a lost during his amateur career so I couldn't call him a true undefeated boxer.
Floyd is just a boxer who used to fight for money and compare to a truly living legend who played boxing because it is his passion and sports, totally different. There’s also alot in the new era today in the boxing that is undefeated like Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford knowing that being a undefeated is a great accomplishment. And the fact that only one man in the history of boxing who holds 8 titles in different division are can truly be the hardest achievements that you can accomplished in the boxing history. Whatever Manny has accomplished that would not help him to beat Floyd, Manny is just a risk taker and he doesn't care much about his record, what he wants is that he can entertain the crowd, and now if there will be a rematch, I'd like to know how would Manny entertain the crowd if he can't him Floyd?
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August 02, 2019, 07:15:15 AM |
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I think Manny is unconsciously preparing for their rematch, he is getting more new boxers with good credential so he can eclipse his losses to Mayweather, and it's only a matter of time before Mayweather agreed to fight Manny, because he must prove that his win is not a fluke.
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August 02, 2019, 07:22:30 AM |
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Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There’s a lot of undefeated boxer in the history of boxing like Julio Cesar Chavez SR with having a standing of 89 wins and 0 losses, but until he makes a total of 115 fights before he retired 6 of that fights he got defeated. Still he accomplished more than from what Mayweather accomplished today. Manny Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a truly living Legend. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yes, your right Mayweather accomplished is 50 wins in total, 27 wins by KO and 0 losses while Many have 62 wins in total, 39 wins by KO 7 losses, and 2 draws, that achievement of Mayweather of having 0 losses if very fascinating. But if you compared the total fight, Many has more experience and even Many losses to Mayweather we know that fight is not that great/ not that we expect as a boxing match ( if you are a Manny Pacquiao fan). Also, your Many right Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a Legend.
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August 02, 2019, 08:30:20 AM |
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I think Manny is unconsciously preparing for their rematch, he is getting more new boxers with good credential so he can eclipse his losses to Mayweather, and it's only a matter of time before Mayweather agreed to fight Manny, because he must prove that his win is not a fluke.
Two old fighters past their prime. If they agree to it, only their names and reputation would sell the fight. I don't think there's going to be any difference in the outcome. No boxer today can outsmart and get around mayweather's style. If pacquiao loses again, which is likely what's going to happen, people will call out mayweather not fighting and running. It's his style. It's effective and it made him a record holder without any losses. People don't want to see a boring fight yet they push for a rematch with a super efficient boxer with a boring style.
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August 02, 2019, 08:32:45 AM |
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I think Manny is unconsciously preparing for their rematch, he is getting more new boxers with good credential so he can eclipse his losses to Mayweather, and it's only a matter of time before Mayweather agreed to fight Manny, because he must prove that his win is not a fluke.
I don't know if he is willing to prove it again, we know his win is not a lucky win, that was convincing because it's an unanimous decision. Maybe we could drag Marques here to prove for a rematch against Manny since he just won by a lucky punch.
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August 02, 2019, 11:05:47 AM |
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I think Manny is unconsciously preparing for their rematch, he is getting more new boxers with good credential so he can eclipse his losses to Mayweather, and it's only a matter of time before Mayweather agreed to fight Manny, because he must prove that his win is not a fluke.
I don't know if he is willing to prove it again, we know his win is not a lucky win, that was convincing because it's an unanimous decision. Maybe we could drag Marques here to prove for a rematch against Manny since he just won by a lucky punch. What ever he thinkinh if he want to fight again or not we do not know it. Im exvited for the rematch to Mayweather. Manny can prove him self by K.O because unanimous decision maybe will not work with this two great boxer. Still unknown when the exact date of their rematch and there is no official announcement about it.
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We heard that on Pacman said that he want to rematch with Mayweather.
The fans want to see a rematch and Manny express his interest as well. But we dont know if Mayweather really accepts that because hes already retired on boxing industry.
He did it in the past, he retired came back and fight again. If he sees he has a good chance of winning and there's big money at stake, then he would not hesitate to come back again.
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August 02, 2019, 02:00:25 PM |
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I think Manny is unconsciously preparing for their rematch, he is getting more new boxers with good credential so he can eclipse his losses to Mayweather, and it's only a matter of time before Mayweather agreed to fight Manny, because he must prove that his win is not a fluke.
I don't know if he is willing to prove it again, we know his win is not a lucky win, that was convincing because it's an unanimous decision. Maybe we could drag Marques here to prove for a rematch against Manny since he just won by a lucky punch. Whatever they think about this potential rematch Manny is always ready to fight its on Mayweather's side to bring it to reality, once He give his approval then this rematch will materialize and bring the fans into a hype, keep those changing opinions and bring more hype to both fighters to make this awaited rematch to happen.
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August 02, 2019, 02:34:49 PM |
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I think Manny is unconsciously preparing for their rematch, he is getting more new boxers with good credential so he can eclipse his losses to Mayweather, and it's only a matter of time before Mayweather agreed to fight Manny, because he must prove that his win is not a fluke.
I don't know if he is willing to prove it again, we know his win is not a lucky win, that was convincing because it's an unanimous decision. Maybe we could drag Marques here to prove for a rematch against Manny since he just won by a lucky punch. Whatever they think about this potential rematch Manny is always ready to fight its on Mayweather's side to bring it to reality, once He give his approval then this rematch will materialize and bring the fans into a hype, keep those changing opinions and bring more hype to both fighters to make this awaited rematch to happen. What are you guys talking about? As far as i know, Juan Manuel Marquez is already retiring in his career after his last fight with Alvarado. So let's not put a fighter who has ended their career although he said it was a hard decision to make but he still made it. Anyway, Pacman might not return in 2020 due to his job as a senator in the Philippines but the name that's going to match up with him it might be Errol Spence, Terence Crawford, or Floyd Mayweather.
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@Kemarit. That will be an argument of a lifetime hehe. Also, it might be a quicker negotiation this time if Floyd and Manny decide yes on the rematch. Pacman has signed to be managed by Al Haymon beginning last year.
When Pacman and Mayweather fought, it was already being billed as once in a lifetime match. If a rematch was to happen, all those people that paid good money to watch this 'once-in-a-lifetime; fight would feel kinda duped. So that's why I think, even if they wanted to, they wouldn't do a rematch. Pacquiao has been pretty active in the last few years, whereas Mayweather has only been in 2 exhibition matches that I doubt he even trained for. It would be a complete whomp for Mayweather and not fair at all.
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