Pacquiao Vs Mayweather 2

[Fundamentals Of]

I don't actually like this fight coming into reality although I have to admit that this is still being pushed by certain people. I don't expect Mayweather fights to be entertaining anymore. Manny Pacquiao, on the one hand, is getting old also. He is not anymore the fighter that looks for blood in his matches. But this fight is still getting hype from all over even if it is clearly only for the sake of money. Bob Arum has released a remark once again hinting the suggestion for this fight to happen.  

More on testing the water if the fans are still going to push and hype this fight to happen. There's still news and some social media talks about making this into reality. If Bob Arum will take it seriously and begin to mediate, chances that both fighters will sit and talk about their positions and what would be
the best for both camps in order to settle.

Though without the interest from the supporters' side, this will not happen knowing that Mayweather always after for the big cash.

Regardless of how aware we are that this fight is just for the money, yet we cant deny the fact that there are still those people who wants to see a rematch just to satisfy their desire to put a stain on Mayweather's record, plus Pacman's redemption from that very controversial fight. These both fighter are aging, they might not meet the audiences' expectations, but both of them is a big name in the boxing  discussions. So, might as well it will be considered as an exciting match, not expecting something special from the action in the ring, but exciting in a way that everyone is watching out for Mayweather's first loss, or worse a knockout.  

That might really be what the people subconsciously want, a Mayweather's loss. If that happens, I think the arena will be shaking with cheers rather than boos.

The Pacman has already redeemed himself from that loss although by way of winning other fights and not by a rematch. If this fight will happen, there will be no excitement, as you said. They are aging but Mayweather's running and evasion skills are not getting bad.

[Ranly123]

Two days back, there was a statement from Dana White. He was saying that he is currently working to make Conor McGregor Vs Mayweather II a reality. In monetary terms, this is going to me much more rewarding for Floyd when compared to any potential rematch against Manny Pacquiao. Also, from his language, it looks like he is more interested in taking on McGregor rather than Pacquiao. In case White succeeds in persuading Floyd, then we can say goodbye to any rematch with Pacquiao.

The last time he fought against Conor McGregor, he earned more than $275 million (with McGregor earning another $100 million). On the other hand, Floyd received less than $250 million for his fight against Pacquiao, with gross revenues amounting to $600 million (for the fight against McGregor, the gross revenues amounted to more than $700 million).

If this could happen, this will be the worst fight that ever happen in boxing history. I mean, look at their first fight it does not even make Mayweather worry about lossing. McGregor cannot box and that's what makes it boring to see especially against Mayweather who is known to be the best tactician in the ring.

[lighpulsar07]

Well for me, Pacquiao should retire since he was already in forties already and he could lose if someone younger than him can knock him out even mayweather himself had been already retired so, there's no point of continuing his boxing career and besides he's already a senator so, there's no problem where to get funds for his family.

And if the fight can happen again i don't think that pacquiao has a chance to beat mayweather now they are both in forties now and mayweather have still have advantage against pacquiao.

[jakoylantern]

Well for me, Pacquiao should retire since he was already in forties already and he could lose if someone younger than him can knock him out even mayweather himself had been already retired so, there's no point of continuing his boxing career and besides he's already a senator so, there's no problem where to get funds for his family.

And if the fight can happen again i don't think that pacquiao has a chance to beat mayweather now they are both in forties now and mayweather have still have advantage against pacquiao.

For me, Pacquiao still wants to fight because he still has the ability, skills, and strength. Yes, compared to his previous matches in the past five years, you can surely tell that Pacquiao is getting old and need to rest. But I bet Pacquiao still want to make his last fight very unforgettable to most of the fan and ppl that love boxing and also for him. If his wish that his last/retiring fight is on Mayweather so beat it if Mayweather fights.

[Finestream]

Well for me, Pacquiao should retire since he was already in forties already and he could lose if someone younger than him can knock him out even mayweather himself had been already retired so, there's no point of continuing his boxing career and besides he's already a senator so, there's no problem where to get funds for his family.

And if the fight can happen again i don't think that pacquiao has a chance to beat mayweather now they are both in forties now and mayweather have still have advantage against pacquiao.

For me, Pacquiao still wants to fight because he still has the ability, skills, and strength. Yes, compared to his previous matches in the past five years, you can surely tell that Pacquiao is getting old and need to rest. But I bet Pacquiao still want to make his last fight very unforgettable to most of the fan and ppl that love boxing and also for him. If his wish that his last/retiring fight is on Mayweather so beat it if Mayweather fights.

We can always see that everytime he fight, he always think of the satisfaction of the fans because he understands that he owes his fame to the fans.
If this rematch will happen and Manny will lose, fans will still love him and still hate Mayweather, nothing's change except for their respective record.

it would be an epic fight especially if Mayweather will stop running for awhile, he needs to show that he can also be aggressive fighting an aggressive fighter, what way they will be able to give the fans a fight that is worth of their money.

[Jating]

Well for me, Pacquiao should retire since he was already in forties already and he could lose if someone younger than him can knock him out even mayweather himself had been already retired so, there's no point of continuing his boxing career and besides he's already a senator so, there's no problem where to get funds for his family.

But have you seen his performance against the much younger Keith Thurman? Did he get knock out? No, on the contrary he put everything in the line. As other sports personalities have said, "there's no way that a 40 year old man is going to kick your ass". But that's exactly happen in the fight. The supposedly old man was the one who knock down a young and his prime fighter and one of the best in that division.

And if the fight can happen again i don't think that pacquiao has a chance to beat mayweather now they are both in forties now and mayweather have still have advantage against pacquiao.

I agree, but for the sake of discussions, give Manny a fighting chance for a rematch. If that is so easy for Floyd then why is he stalling the fight?

[bryant.coleman]

Two days back, there was a statement from Dana White. He was saying that he is currently working to make Conor McGregor Vs Mayweather II a reality. In monetary terms, this is going to me much more rewarding for Floyd when compared to any potential rematch against Manny Pacquiao. Also, from his language, it looks like he is more interested in taking on McGregor rather than Pacquiao. In case White succeeds in persuading Floyd, then we can say goodbye to any rematch with Pacquiao.

The last time he fought against Conor McGregor, he earned more than $275 million (with McGregor earning another $100 million). On the other hand, Floyd received less than $250 million for his fight against Pacquiao, with gross revenues amounting to $600 million (for the fight against McGregor, the gross revenues amounted to more than $700 million).

If this could happen, this will be the worst fight that ever happen in boxing history. I mean, look at their first fight it does not even make Mayweather worry about lossing. McGregor cannot box and that's what makes it boring to see especially against Mayweather who is known to be the best tactician in the ring.

The intention is not to give the best fight to the public, but to squeeze the maximum amount of money from them. They'll benefit if there is some negative publicity and hype surrounding the fight. And for that purpose, I believe that McGregor (with his aggressive antics) suits much better when compared to the mild natured Pacquiao. And don't be so sure about Mayweather mopping the floor with McGregor. Floyd hasn't practised for more than two years now, and he'll be quite rusty if he decides to make a comeback. McGregor will be having enough chances to stage an upset.

[goinmerry]

Is this thread really a discussion for Pac vs Mayweather? Look at the recent posts.

Maybe lock this thread for now and just open if ever there's finally a successful deal about the fight.

OP don't regret closing this thread. This is still the main thread once there's a 70% chance that Pac and Mayweather will fight.

[carlfebz2]

Is this thread really a discussion for Pac vs Mayweather? Look at the recent posts.

Maybe lock this thread for now and just open if ever there's finally a successful deal about the fight.

OP don't regret closing this thread. This is still the main thread once there's a 70% chance that Pac and Mayweather will fight.

You would really expect for these kind of thread to keep on going and it would really come to discussions in relate with other matters so it isnt a surprise though.
Why you are so sure to have that 70% chance of their fight to happen? I do only hear about their exhibition match but not actually the real fight.
Its still good to look at these discussions though excluding those repetitive replies.

[Saint-loup]

Is this thread really a discussion for Pac vs Mayweather? Look at the recent posts.

Maybe lock this thread for now and just open if ever there's finally a successful deal about the fight.

OP don't regret closing this thread. This is still the main thread once there's a 70% chance that Pac and Mayweather will fight.

You would really expect for these kind of thread to keep on going and it would really come to discussions in relate with other matters so it isnt a surprise though.
Why you are so sure to have that 70% chance of their fight to happen? I do only hear about their exhibition match but not actually the real fight.
Its still good to look at these discussions though excluding those repetitive replies.

Yes I don't understand how he can say that... goinmerry where did you find this figure? Is it a statistic from a sporstbook site? Or just an estimate from you and you mean between 2chances out of 3 and 3 out of 4?

[bisdak40]

Is this thread really a discussion for Pac vs Mayweather? Look at the recent posts.

Maybe lock this thread for now and just open if ever there's finally a successful deal about the fight.

OP don't regret closing this thread. This is still the main thread once there's a 70% chance that Pac and Mayweather will fight.

You would really expect for these kind of thread to keep on going and it would really come to discussions in relate with other matters so it isnt a surprise though.
Why you are so sure to have that 70% chance of their fight to happen? I do only hear about their exhibition match but not actually the real fight.
Its still good to look at these discussions though excluding those repetitive replies.

Lol, they guy is just saying that if ever the chance of the fight happening to be 70% (just estimate) OP can unlock this thread as he wants this thread to be lock and we will discuss again it here. He is not saying there is a 70% chance of the fight happening.

[Natalim]

Lol, they guy is just saying that if ever the chance of the fight happening to be 70% (just estimate) OP can unlock this thread as he wants this thread to be lock and we will discuss again it here. He is not saying there is a 70% chance of the fight happening.

I think OP has to lock this thread as the chance of the fight happening is "zero"....Manny does not want any exhibition fight with Mayweather, he wants a real fight that will go to 12 rounds to entertain the fans. It's in the news already, we can already check it out below.

https://www.ibtimes.com/pacquiao-brushes-exhibition-match-floyd-mayweather-wants-real-fight-2827647

[nydiacaskey01]

I will lock this thread today and will unlock again only if there will be a clear indication that a fight between this two legends. All I can see now is nothing but trying to keep the talks alive but FM is not interested anymore. FM might be interested but not today or this year. He looks at this fight as an option only, maybe if he has no exhibition fights left he might consider. 

[nydiacaskey01]

So talks about the rematch has began and this may happen by 2020 and Manny Pacquiao complaints about Floyd Weathers demands. I am not surprised if Floyd Mayweather has too many “high demands” he is undefeated and its Manny who wants this fight to happen.

https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3031290/manny-pacquiao-complains-floyd-mayweathers-high-demands-rematch-talks

[mich]

Floyd Mayweather accelerates plans for Manny Pacquiao rematch

Floyd Mayweather reportedly abandoned plans for an exhibition fight in China in order to negotiate a rematch with Manny Pacquiao.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/floyd-mayweather-accelerates-plans-manny-20560512

[Twinkledoe]

Floyd Mayweather accelerates plans for Manny Pacquiao rematch

Floyd Mayweather reportedly abandoned plans for an exhibition fight in China in order to negotiate a rematch with Manny Pacquiao.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/floyd-mayweather-accelerates-plans-manny-20560512

So after more than a year of discussion in this forum, this fight might really happen after all. I thought the possibility of this match is very low because supposedly the audience felt cheated on their first fight. Would they still fetch a large number of viewers and rake huge amount of paycheck?

[bryant.coleman]

So talks about the rematch has began and this may happen by 2020 and Manny Pacquiao complaints about Floyd Weathers demands. I am not surprised if Floyd Mayweather has too many “high demands” he is undefeated and its Manny who wants this fight to happen.

https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3031290/manny-pacquiao-complains-floyd-mayweathers-high-demands-rematch-talks

I don't think that Pacquiao can complain about it. We all know what happened in 2015. Pacquiao was the one who challenged Floyd. Floyd accepted his challenge and agreed to fight him. And in the end he won the fight in a very decisive manner. Now Floyd is not required to fight Pacquiao anymore, since he has already proven that he's the better fighter.

Another thing to consider is the revenue generation. The fight between Floyd and Conor generated much more revenue, when compared to the fight between Floyd and Pacquiao. So for Floyd, it is always better to fight Conor rather than Manny. And in case Manny wants this fight to move forward, then he needs to give in to the demands made by Floyd. Nothing wrong in that. Floyd has the advantage here.

[nydiacaskey01]

Another thing to consider is the revenue generation. The fight between Floyd and Conor generated much more revenue, when compared to the fight between Floyd and Pacquiao. So for Floyd, it is always better to fight Conor rather than Manny. And in case Manny wants this fight to move forward, then he needs to give in to the demands made by Floyd. Nothing wrong in that. Floyd has the advantage here.

The fight between Manny and Floyd is different from the fight between Floyd and Connor. We are talking about Boxing fans for the fight between Floyd and Manny while Its Boxing and MMA fans for Conor and Floyd. So in terms of viewership, its two groups who waited got Conor and Floyd fight, while its just one group for Floyd and Manny.

[Yaunfitda]

So talks about the rematch has began and this may happen by 2020 and Manny Pacquiao complaints about Floyd Weathers demands. I am not surprised if Floyd Mayweather has too many “high demands” he is undefeated and its Manny who wants this fight to happen.

https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3031290/manny-pacquiao-complains-floyd-mayweathers-high-demands-rematch-talks

I don't think that Pacquiao can complain about it. We all know what happened in 2015. Pacquiao was the one who challenged Floyd. Floyd accepted his challenge and agreed to fight him. And in the end he won the fight in a very decisive manner. Now Floyd is not required to fight Pacquiao anymore, since he has already proven that he's the better fighter.

Another thing to consider is the revenue generation. The fight between Floyd and Conor generated much more revenue, when compared to the fight between Floyd and Pacquiao. So for Floyd, it is always better to fight Conor rather than Manny. And in case Manny wants this fight to move forward, then he needs to give in to the demands made by Floyd. Nothing wrong in that. Floyd has the advantage here.

I don't know where you get your numbers but Floyd vs Manny is still the highest grossing PPV numbers in history, and Conor vs Floyd is just #2.

Of course Floyd will always be the A-side in any fight and not even Manny can complain about it. And remember that Manny is still under contract back then and if I remember it correctly, the split is 60/40 which is fair in my opinion.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Another thing to consider is the revenue generation. The fight between Floyd and Conor generated much more revenue, when compared to the fight between Floyd and Pacquiao. So for Floyd, it is always better to fight Conor rather than Manny. And in case Manny wants this fight to move forward, then he needs to give in to the demands made by Floyd. Nothing wrong in that. Floyd has the advantage here.

The fight between Manny and Floyd is different from the fight between Floyd and Connor. We are talking about Boxing fans for the fight between Floyd and Manny while Its Boxing and MMA fans for Conor and Floyd. So in terms of viewership, its two groups who waited got Conor and Floyd fight, while its just one group for Floyd and Manny.

You are right. Also, Floyd vs Conor happened two years back, when the market conditions were more favorable. On the other hand, Manny vs Floyd was in 2015 when the situation was a bit more difficult. There is a lot of hype for any potential rematch between Floyd and Manny and I am sure that the overall revenue this time will be much higher than what they got in 2015.