[RETURN] Announcing CoinReturn Financial IPO!

[germanjew]

Given:

1) NotLambchop posts "this is a scam" on almost every thread on Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities promoting a new "security"
2) 99% of threads started on Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities are promoting a scam of some sort

Then:
NotLambchop will have a 99% accuracy.


Pretty genius I'd say...

[blaster51]

Do you guys really think that he has his ID...
I doubt it...

[vm_mpn]

So, What's the latest?

[Dingir]

@CoinReturn, some sort of statement is necessary asap

@SamboNZ do you still have the ID? If they dont answer you until Friday, could you publish the ID pls?

I need some help on the email-IP-header issue please:

"Received: from cp-uk-1.webhostbox.net (cp-uk-1.webhostbox.net. [5.100.152.24])"
 
would the [5.100.152.24] be their IP?

whois statest for the IP following:

inetnum:        5.100.152.0 - 5.100.153.255
netname:        CONFNW-UK
descr:          Confluence Networks UK
country:        GB
admin-c:        NA3709-RIPE
tech-c:         IA2933-RIPE
status:         ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:         IA84401-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         IP Admin
address:        3rd Floor, Omar Hodge Building, Wickhams
address:        Cay I, P.O. Box 362
address:        Road Town, TORTOLA VG1110
address:        VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH)
phone:          +1-415-462-7734
phone:          +1-415-358-0858
nic-hdl:        IA2933-RIPE
mnt-by:         IA84401-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         NOC Admin
address:        3rd Floor, Omar Hodge Building, Wickhams Cay I, P.O. Box 362
address:        Road Town, TORTOLA VG1110 VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH)
phone:          +1-415-223-2606
phone:          +1-415-462-7734
nic-hdl:        NA3709-RIPE
mnt-by:         IA84401-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

% This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.70.1 (WHOIS1)
        

[johny08]

Agreed on all of your comments.  They appeared to be quite on to it with predicting market trends which further strengthens the 'not a scam' view.

I have some ideas / avenues we could pursue should things not improve in a reasonable timeframe, but let's give it a bit more time before we go charging in with flaming torches & pitchforks

Seriously? They have not been kidnapped by ninjas nor the SEC arrested them. 5 days without any sign of life, like a line of text, is enough for starting investigating.

[NotLambchop]

Given:

1) NotLambchop posts "this is a scam" on almost every thread on Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities promoting a new "security"
2) 99% of threads started on Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities are promoting a scam of some sort

Then:
NotLambchop will have a 99% accuracy.


Pretty genius I'd say...

When 99% of the offerings are scams, stop "investing," genius!

[SamboNZ]

tl;dr

I wish I could get back the 10 seconds it took me to read that post. Pure drivel.

LOL.  Yeah, NLC only ever seems to post one thing these days:

This user is currently ignored.

So repetitive!

@Dingir:  I have some information which I would be willing to share, but not until I'm sure that doing so isn't going to make the situation worse for shareholders and only with majority consent from the shareholders on which action to proceed with.  At this point I'm thinking a deadline of the 26th of June (ie; 2 weeks since the last contact from CR), just to give CR ample time to respond.

[NotLambchop]

...At this point I'm thinking a deadline of the 26th of June (ie; 2 weeks since the last contact from CR), just to give CR ample time to respond.

Lol, kids will be kids.  Thinking, issuing deadlines, bragging about their mad ignore button skillz, posting whois on mail servers, hatin' on adults...
Here's a TL;DR the brighter ones might understand:



  ~Happy investing!

[SamboNZ]

This user is currently ignored.

Dearest Lambchop (Ohhh, is that what your Mommy calls you?  Oh how cute!! <squeee!>),

I'm not quite sure what you hope to achieve by constantly telling me that you're being ignored...  Perhaps you feel lonely and need some love and attention?  Whatever the reason, I'm sorry, I can't really help you .  Go see your Mommy, I'm sure she'll give you some nice cuddles and tell you that it's all ok; "There there, it's alright my little Lambchop".  Wouldn't that be nicer than constantly broadcasting your dissatisfaction with your life on this nasty old forum?



Have a nice day little Lambchop
Love and kisses,
SamboNZ

 

[NotLambchop]

...
Love and kisses,
SamboNZ

 

Eww...

[NotLambchop]

...
In a few months days^*, I'll drop you a condolences gif and offer you a virtual shoulder to sob on.

*edit 6/18/14

Just so I won't forget, here's your condolences gif!

Sorry for your loss!


Yeah, I keep my promises.  Hang tight for the virtual shoulder.

  ~Happy investing

[NotLambchop]

For the last few weeks I have been doing some in-depth checks into CoinReturn and its founders.  Here is a brief summary of my findings and observations for the benefit of the community:


Negative Points

• Introductory blurb states that the company is registered in Cyprus, however this is not the case.  I asked the the CoinReturn team about this and they said that while this was the original idea, they changed their minds on this after seeking legal opinion and decided to run away instead.

...

Fixed a typo in one of your findings and/or observations for the benefit of the community.
*Hate to see such an edifying and compelling cautionary tale go to waste...

[NotLambchop]

@bcmine:  Of course!  I'll work pro bono.
Thank you for setting a new standard of openness and transparency in bitcoin securities--planning your getaway in a public forum.

[SamboNZ]

you are communicating in a really funny way with the shareholders to make it more easy for them

LOL, you mean I'm not running round with my hair on fire, waving my hands in the air and screaming "SCAM!!" at the first sign of trouble?  Hahaha, you guys crack me up.

[SamboNZ]

FYI, I have requested all known IP addresses used to log in to the CoinReturn account from a moderator.  I'm not sure that they will give them to me, but I thought I would at least try to start gathering all the info we can, regardless of our final choice of action.

[johny08]

FYI, I have requested all known IP addresses used to log in to the CoinReturn account from a moderator.  I'm not sure that they will give them to me, but I thought I would at least try to start gathering all the info we can, regardless of our final choice of action.

are you police? We need an american going to the police (with ID you have) kiddy, so they hang tom and jeff on a tree. that gives much more security in investing in btc as regulation ever can. its america. we can!

the only chance, which makes sence now is to wait until they are coming back. but there are 100 xbt between us. anyway, they did a good job and enriched the community (before they disappeared).

[BITov PR]

What about DEBT!!!
...see here https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2519

MPOE PR?

[SamboNZ]

Hmm, looks like they may charge a fairly hefty percentage as a fee 

[SamboNZ]

Unfortunately it looks like getting CoinReturn's IP is not possible right now:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38253.msg4380458#msg4380458

[BITov PR]

A big %age off IPO price is better than the current price...  who's Drivers Licence do you have an image of, have you checked it back to a real persons ID?