Who controls the market?

[karanggatak]

the crypto market is indeed decentralized and not controlled by anyone. but I think the crypto market is strongly influenced by the amount of supply and demand. and the amount of supply and demand is influenced by the FUD and also the presence of large whales who buy or sell bitcoin in large quantities. of course this can affect the market.

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[cydrix]

Basically us but if we differentiate all the investors I think it is common sense to say that the more money you've got the more power you've got. Means to say that if you invested a lot of money while it is being speculated by many secretive investors and you invested a lot in it and really have a big effect on the price I think the hidden investors would not sit idly and make a move.

[STT]

The free market is a natural phenomena, it could have human characteristics but there is no one face to it or even a cartel of faces controlling the BTC price.     The people I see most seriously speculate this being true are doing so as part of an argument to state BTC is a ponzi scheme.   This should have been disproved and self evident by now.

Put it this way, we have well known actual cartel in Oil pricing.   OPEC is well recognised but examine their control to dominate markets and its very imperfect as the source of supply and demand is beyond their reach absolutely.   There is influence they exert but the realities are the producers of Oil have giant costs they must meet and they have to sell as much as possible in many cases.    This is true of most people for BTC, the miners have costs to their operations.   If somehow they could ignore costs then maybe they could toy with and manipulate supply a little

[Burogh]

the crypto market is indeed decentralized and not controlled by anyone. but I think the crypto market is strongly influenced by the amount of supply and demand. and the amount of supply and demand is influenced by the FUD and also the presence of large whales who buy or sell bitcoin in large quantities. of course this can affect the market.

I am agree, decentralized market doesnt mean can not manipulated. Group people with large capital can manipulate the price if holding most stake from total supply. I think regulation needed in crypto market

[mapanlah]

Most of the people don't care if a currency is decentralized or not and don't what it means too. They are just interested to make profits, no matter how. They jump on the new flower of the month, invest some cash and sit down until the flower blooms.
How it works, or what it is exactly doesn't matter to them

there are always those who control the market, market controllers are usually large investors or giant traders with very large holdings, they will be able to control value according to their interests, but there are some giant financiers who always compete in price control and they usually always create a market situation unstable, the aim is to be able to set prices according to their goals.

[mirakal]

Basically us but if we differentiate all the investors I think it is common sense to say that the more money you've got the more power you've got. Means to say that if you invested a lot of money while it is being speculated by many secretive investors and you invested a lot in it and really have a big effect on the price I think the hidden investors would not sit idly and make a move.

There is a specific measure of a lot, and you should have a good share of the entire supply or circulating supply when you say a lot.

It should be millions of dollars in worth of your investment to called it a lot, today's marketcap is $71,443,878,02 and having at least 1% of that will require you to have at least $714,438,780.24, now that's what you called a lot.

[CoinChili]

If there are no one controlling the market then what do you called the situation wherein there is a big pump in price or a huge dump in the market? At first, I was confused how the market really reacts but when i realized whales are other big investors are always there to manipulate the market, I now believe what others are saying about controlled market.

[needtor22]

indeed the bitcoin market price will also be difficult to predict, because it was seen in the last month the price of bitcoin also declined, but I believe there is now also a change in the price of bitcoin which is also starting to develop better.

[sijonru]

Basically us but if we differentiate all the investors I think it is common sense to say that the more money you've got the more power you've got. Means to say that if you invested a lot of money while it is being speculated by many secretive investors and you invested a lot in it and really have a big effect on the price I think the hidden investors would not sit idly and make a move.

In my opinion, the bitcoin market has no control, in the sense that it is able to control prices to go up or so that prices go down. Because to do that must have very large capital because the ownership of bitcoin has spread throughout the world.
So, prices will go up or will go down because there are large transactions that are caused by information that greatly affects bitcoin, besides that it is also a factor of supply and demand.

[Annalise24]

The cryptocurrency space is one that is decentralized and so no one controls pricing or the market.
The market moves in the direction of speculation.
And that is what influences pricing most of the time.

[Adriano2010]

I think no one control the market, but indeed there are whales who can buy a lot of coins and can make the price grow or down, but they can't control all crypto market because they will need more money then they have now, they will need to gather more money from a lot of millionares to make more ups and down price.

[zemper]

I think no one control the market, but indeed there are whales who can buy a lot of coins and can make the price grow or down, but they can't control all crypto market because they will need more money then they have now, they will need to gather more money from a lot of millionares to make more ups and down price.

Whales have enough assets to initiate the panic sell, impetuous pump or to hold a price in some range. Yes, they do not have all amount of btc and top-altcoins but as we see it's not necessary to have control all over the cryptocurrencies to manipulate the market's trend. FOMO and FUD also have a big impact on the market's condition.

[jjjfff]

Can't get any worse than what the Fed, ECB and other central banks do to fiat money.

They print money for bankers who buy all the wealth in the planet while everyone else works like a horse to make amends.

It's a ridiculous system.

Fed prints money, stock market goes up. It's all phony.

Once everyone realizes that their "real money" isn't but a ponzi, cryptocurrencies will become the defacto currency of the world.

Fiat won't even be needed any more.

[leetcoiner]

I think no one control the market, but indeed there are whales who can buy a lot of coins and can make the price grow or down, but they can't control all crypto market because they will need more money then they have now, they will need to gather more money from a lot of millionares to make more ups and down price.

Whales have enough assets to initiate the panic sell, impetuous pump or to hold a price in some range. Yes, they do not have all amount of btc and top-altcoins but as we see it's not necessary to have control all over the cryptocurrencies to manipulate the market's trend. FOMO and FUD also have a big impact on the market's condition.

It’s not just that these people call themselves Whales. These are very large capitals that can create almost any position on the cryptocurrency market.

[STT]

It's a ridiculous system.

Yet it works (with losses) and if juggling chainsaws gets the wood chopped then it becomes more dangerous to stop.  Thats the scenario we're in now even by their own admission, if you look up an interview by Ben Bernanke former FED chair he says we are in a situation that can never be reversed; 'maybe we can never go home again'

If you want to look further down the road, consider the bank of Japan which has been doing QE programs since the early 1990's and has become entirely ridiculous yet the country isnt in the headlines and the population isnt especially poor just worse off then they would be otherwise I think, some will argue central bank action is far better then the alternatives of a free market.
If you dont care about Japan, you should because they hold 1 trillion in USA debt which is enough to make a splash.   Great contagion, even a player such as Greece has a nasty leverage on Germany the worlds greatest exporter

[Che454010]

Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

It is right nobody controls the cryptocurrency market, but some big whales have been holding a large amount of coins, so they have got the power to influence the market in their own favor. There have been instances when the whales have skillfully manipulated the market, so they would always have influence on the market, but they can't fully control it.

[don_ricci]

I think that the market is controlled by large players in the face of states and just ordinary people who either buy or sell. I would say that the market does not fluctuate because of individual people, but because of successive mass transactions. And the fact that governments buy cryptocurrencies is no secret to anyone.

[Activitycoin]

The cryptocurrency space is one that is decentralized and so no one controls pricing or the market.
The market moves in the direction of speculation.
And that is what influences pricing most of the time.

It is the only demand and supply which is controlling the market and which is increasing the demand of the market, when more people buy price rises and when more sells so the price falls, but there is another thing which is whales who can do this as when they want to fall the price they intentionally sell huge amount of coin at panic which makes the price down this way they make more money and coin.

[mrdeposit]

I think no one control the market, but indeed there are whales who can buy a lot of coins and can make the price grow or down, but they can't control all crypto market because they will need more money then they have now, they will need to gather more money from a lot of millionares to make more ups and down price.

Whales have enough assets to initiate the panic sell, impetuous pump or to hold a price in some range. Yes, they do not have all amount of btc and top-altcoins but as we see it's not necessary to have control all over the cryptocurrencies to manipulate the market's trend. FOMO and FUD also have a big impact on the market's condition.

It’s not just that these people call themselves Whales. These are very large capitals that can create almost any position on the cryptocurrency market.

Do you have any idea where these whales are and how they act? In my opinion, rather than being a tricky price, this is better. At least there is no institution that regulates the price. If you want it, the place is obvious.

[hxtop]

Like traditional markets, there are some groups of big players who try to manipulate crypto market and gain huge profits but most of bitcoiners have resisted to these speculators by holding their coins without hesitating. These people have lost an amount of money for their belief that ther can be a financial market which can't be controlled by big whales. Thanks to these people for their devotion, because of these brave people bitcoin price is about 5K right now.