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January 07, 2019, 06:38:27 PM
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they deleted this post that i made. this was my last attempt to let them prove to be not scammers.

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well, well. cards have been sent.
what i know is that these cards are upaycard business cards with this company name UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS.

now minexteam have to answer these querstions:
1. how this works exactly.
2. why the cards are not issued with name of the persons that bought it and had to do KYC.
3. what is the difference between any normal https://www.upaycard.com/business that can handle cryptocurrencies.

anybody that is really interested in knowing whats going on please add further questions.

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January 07, 2019, 07:15:02 PM
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they deleted this post that i made. this was my last attempt to let them prove to be not scammers.

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well, well. cards have been sent.
what i know is that these cards are upaycard business cards with this company name UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS.

now minexteam have to answer these querstions:
1. how this works exactly.
2. why the cards are not issued with name of the persons that bought it and had to do KYC.
3. what is the difference between any normal https://www.upaycard.com/business that can handle cryptocurrencies.

anybody that is really interested in knowing whats going on please add further questions.



They didnt lock previous thread and opened new self-moderated( censored) for nothing. They knew that real origin of theirs cards will be discovered as soon as first cards arrive. So they opened censored thread to control informations and to stop exposing theirs lies,trying to buy some time for theirs scam.

Now,they are screaming on theirs thread how cards are OK, that they have license from Upaycard to issue cards without Minex logo(non-branded cards)  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


But that is interesting question

What if fudders get their hands on the card and start calling to appriopriate companues that someone sending illegal crypto cards?
Is that resolution clear and 100% secured with the card company tegulations or tyey might be a problem?

What are you talking about? Who will they call? To UPay, who authorized the issuance of cards and officially have permission to work with cryptocurrency? Or do you think that minex, without asking, has issued cards with their logo. Lol   Cheesy Cheesy
They use cards for Fiat. Therefore, no one can show them anything to them.  Wink


Of course it is pure BS. Minex didnt just illegally issued non-branded cards to theirs customers,but it is using shell company UAB KS and its account on Upay to cover their tracks,violating not just Mastercard and FCA regulations,but AML laws too.Plus Minex via UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS issued falsified place of residence proofs for customers out of EEA zone,because  Upay does not issue cards to residents out of EEA.

How stupid these Minex trolls are when claiming that they are untouchable and there is nothing to show to Upay which can stop them - everything what someone should do is to send these 2 photos below where you can see how Minex is sending Upay issued cards to UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company as their owns,claiming how cards were ordered via Minexpay in theirs short congratulations memo:














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January 07, 2019, 07:28:08 PM
Last edit: January 07, 2019, 08:42:28 PM by JollyGood
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they deleted this post that i made. this was my last attempt to let them prove to be not scammers.

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well, well. cards have been sent.
what i know is that these cards are upaycard business cards with this company name UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS.

now minexteam have to answer these querstions:
1. how this works exactly.
2. why the cards are not issued with name of the persons that bought it and had to do KYC.
3. what is the difference between any normal https://www.upaycard.com/business that can handle cryptocurrencies.

anybody that is really interested in knowing whats going on please add further questions.


The list goes on, in their self-moderated censored thread they deleted 3 of my posts today and at least one from suchmoon which I fortunately copied here in page 6 just before they deleted it in their censored thread.

Their tactics have all the hallmarks that previous scammers have had. They lock their threads then open censored ones and then have a tendency to be fast on the delete button in hope nobody sees or gets influenced by those posts that oppose their view.

There was nothing wrong with what you posted but the scammers delete it. You asked very important questions but they have no interest in what you wrote other than to silence you and others like you that either expose their scam or ask questions that are fair because they feel rattled by them

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January 07, 2019, 10:54:56 PM
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they deleted this post that i made. this was my last attempt to let them prove to be not scammers.

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well, well. cards have been sent.
what i know is that these cards are upaycard business cards with this company name UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS.

now minexteam have to answer these querstions:
1. how this works exactly.
2. why the cards are not issued with name of the persons that bought it and had to do KYC.
3. what is the difference between any normal https://www.upaycard.com/business that can handle cryptocurrencies.

anybody that is really interested in knowing whats going on please add further questions.


The list goes on, in their self-moderated censored thread they deleted 3 of my posts today and at least one from suchmoon which I fortunately copied here in page 6 just before they deleted it in their censored thread.

Their tactics have all the hallmarks that previous scammers have had. They lock their threads then open censored ones and then have a tendency to be fast on the delete button in hope nobody sees or gets influenced by those posts that oppose their view.

There was nothing wrong with what you posted but the scammers delete it. You asked very important questions but they have no interest in what you wrote other than to silence you and others like you that either expose their scam or ask questions that are fair because they feel rattled by them
when the people see that their name is not on it...lol what a joke
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January 08, 2019, 12:26:58 AM
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when the people see that their name is not on it...lol what a joke

The majority have no idea about the scam, they are just happy they have received cards.

It is the same as me sending you a card then asking you for money or crypto so I add that to your card for you. It means Minexpay is gettung Upaycards, keeping card numbers and cvv for themselves, then sending them out to customers and asking them to take ID pics holding the card. That is pathetic.

There are so many prepaid cards out there that customer deals with card company directly. Here Minex is trying to make itself relevant for an irrelevant function that customer does not need Borys and company for.


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January 08, 2019, 12:30:01 AM
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Minex guys  appear to be less green than fudders would hoped. I do not think they are sending us illegal cards which are not backed up by documents legalized their status. BTW  according to  terms published on official  site the cards they are sending are not crypto but pure fiat.

This post was deleted by the Minexcoin censored scammers but I got it from my messages alerting me it was deleted:



And that is where the biggest problem lay for Borys his Minex scammers.

As far as Minex is concerned the "crypto to FIAT" process is between the card holder and Minex. The then "loading card with FIAT" process is between Minex and Upaycard.

All Borys and his Minex scammers have done is no different to me saying to you to send me $10 then I will send you a EUR/US$ prepay Mastercard that is available on the high street (so you do not really need me). Then when you want to add balance to your card you give me the money first (crypto or FIAT) and I will add it to your card.

Minexcoin had an ICO for this scam? 


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January 08, 2019, 01:13:32 AM
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when the people see that their name is not on it...lol what a joke

The majority have no idea about the scam, they are just happy they have received cards.

It is the same as me sending you a card then asking you for money or crypto so I add that to your card for you. It means Minexpay is gettung Upaycards, keeping card numbers and cvv for themselves, then sending them out to customers and asking them to take ID pics holding the card. That is pathetic.

There are so many prepaid cards out there that customer deals with card company directly. Here Minex is trying to make itself relevant for an irrelevant function that customer does not need Borys and company for.


Upaycard does not request from theirs cardholders to submit any selfie with the card during activation process or for obtaining PIN code:



 




So,Minex is lying that is needed due to  KYC/AML(this is joke, they are using shell company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to cover its tracks which is definition of money laundering)

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January 08, 2019, 02:08:23 AM
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This image clearly shows they are asking for selfie with card even though it is not required because they already have ID passport etc from so many people that simply did not need to send it because Minex is not authorised by Mastercard or any of its program managers to obtain Mastercards under a Mastercard licence.

They are scamming everybody from Mastercard, Upaycards to their investors and card holders.

What will Borys do with all these bank account numbers, passports, signatures and drivers licence IDs he received in KYC? Sell them? Open fake companies without people knowing to make more tax fraud?


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January 08, 2019, 06:32:51 AM
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I think the minexcoin card activation is subject to minimum amount of minexcoin to be locked to use those tariff offered. But @thurderjet do you have idea how they will set those limit on each card
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I think the minexcoin card activation is subject to minimum amount of minexcoin to be locked to use those tariff offered. But @thurderjet do you have idea how they will set those limit on each card

Minexpay imposed theirs own tariffs and limits. Original Upaycard does not have such division on special tariff plans,it has its own unique fees and limits.

As I know Minexpay imposed artificially division of cards on special tariffs,described before on theirs site - Standard, Gold, Platinum and Infinite.

Due to different limits between Upaycard and Minexpay tariffs, Minex Platinum and Infinite tariffs cant have max.daily withdrawal limits of EUR 5000 and EUR 20000,but max. EUR 4000 daily ,because it is Upaycard limit. Also max. monthy withdrawal for Platinum and Infinite tariff cant be EUR 100.000 and EUR 600.000 ,but max. EUR 50.000

You can see Upaycard business card fees and limits on theirs page and compare it with Minexpay tariffs,keeping in mind that Minexpay(until it last,because it uses illegally other company account on Upaycard) will have to arrange theirs limits to Upaycard own limits :

https://www.upaycard.com/limits
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I think the minexcoin card activation is subject to minimum amount of minexcoin to be locked to use those tariff offered. But @thurderjet do you have idea how they will set those limit on each card

Minexpay imposed theirs own tariffs and limits. Original Upaycard does not have such division on special tariff plans,it has its own unique fees and limits.

As I know Minexpay imposed artificially division of cards on special tariffs,described before on theirs site - Standard, Gold, Platinum and Infinite.

Due to different limits between Upaycard and Minexpay tariffs, Minex Platinum and Infinite tariffs cant have max.daily withdrawal limits of EUR 5000 and EUR 20000,but max. EUR 4000 daily ,because it is Upaycard limit. Also max. monthy withdrawal for Platinum and Infinite tariff cant be EUR 100.000 and EUR 600.000 ,but max. EUR 50.000

You can see Upaycard business card fees and limits on theirs page and compare it with Minexpay tariffs,keeping in mind that Minexpay(until it last,because it uses illegally other company account on Upaycard) will have to arrange theirs limits to Upaycard own limits :

https://www.upaycard.com/limits


Then why are they asking for selfies and why all that KYC?

What does Borys intend to do with all the ID and bank account numbers and signatures he has accumulated?

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The lying OP of that thread (naska21) said you "apologised and your apology was accepted" therefore the thread was locked.

I think he must be heavily involved in the Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay scam and probably suffered huge losses like his best friend temhuk who mortgaged his property to get money to put in to Minex, therefore he just wanted to create some problems for those of us that are trying to expose these evil scammers at Minex.

He wasn't lying about the appology:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088688.msg49017539#msg49017539

Which was the right thing by mr.pacy.mf to do. He clarified what he meant and apologized for the misunderstanding.

But I suspect the thread was closed because it was causing scrutiny for the project.

It is the typical story. People think they can complain in META and that their story will be accepted without investigation.
Often when people post in META with a complaint there is an ulterior motive and stuff they haven't disclosed.


Absolutely agree with you there. The ulterior motive for closing the thread was obvious as it was bringing scrutiny to the Minex scam. Makes no difference really because this active thread and the "official" locked thread have enough evidence to expose the scammers and their inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others

All mr.pacy.mf did was to say exactly the same thing scammer temhuk said to him - which was that some people visit him and cause him harm, more or less.

The scammer and their paid trolls ganged up together and reported the same posts to moderators.

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January 08, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
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I think the minexcoin card activation is subject to minimum amount of minexcoin to be locked to use those tariff offered. But @thurderjet do you have idea how they will set those limit on each card

Minexpay imposed theirs own tariffs and limits. Original Upaycard does not have such division on special tariff plans,it has its own unique fees and limits.

As I know Minexpay imposed artificially division of cards on special tariffs,described before on theirs site - Standard, Gold, Platinum and Infinite.

Due to different limits between Upaycard and Minexpay tariffs, Minex Platinum and Infinite tariffs cant have max.daily withdrawal limits of EUR 5000 and EUR 20000,but max. EUR 4000 daily ,because it is Upaycard limit. Also max. monthy withdrawal for Platinum and Infinite tariff cant be EUR 100.000 and EUR 600.000 ,but max. EUR 50.000

You can see Upaycard business card fees and limits on theirs page and compare it with Minexpay tariffs,keeping in mind that Minexpay(until it last,because it uses illegally other company account on Upaycard) will have to arrange theirs limits to Upaycard own limits :

https://www.upaycard.com/limits


Then why are they asking for selfies and why all that KYC?

What does Borys intend to do with all the ID and bank account numbers and signatures he has accumulated?



Selfie with payment card is only needed on some exchanges as a owner verification measure for enabling deposit/withdrawal by using payment cards.

Why Boris is asking for selfies? - He can sell BTCs on Upaycard UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account and fund user card,but cant do it with MNX coins.If someone wants to fund card through selling MNX coins,Boris needs to change MNX for EUR first and he can do it only at EXMO exchange.

But there is a problem. His cards are non-branded and he is using other shell company to cover illegal doings.He cant open corporate account on EXMO, change directly users MNX and send EUR to theirs cards.


So, he is using provided documents and selfie with card to open accounts on EXMO for every user without theirs knowledge about it.Selfie with card is needed verification measure on EXMO if user wants to withdraw money on his/her card.

Unauthorizedly using customers data to open individual accounts on EXMO for enabling option to withdraw money directly on cards,Boris will cover his tracks in all this mess and if anything goes wrong all blame will be put on individual users.


List of Boris illegal doings gets bigger and bigger every day.

https://exmo.com/en/news_view?id=2120







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I think something else is happening here.

Borys is probably not opening EXMO or other exchange accounts usng the KYC ID he received. I think he will be using those IDs for future fraud which might or might not be related to crypto.

About what he is doing now, it is a case of customer wanting Upaycard topped up and Minex is playing the middle man role.

Customers will not be able to login at Upaycard to view transactions because Borys wants them to stay bound to Minexpay. The ordered cards from Upaycard and kept the logins for themselves then took the cards out of the packaging and then sent them off to Minex customers.

All transcations would also appear on Upaycard website if customer could login but Borys is making there a case for Minexpay to exist (after getting no licence from VISA or Mastercard) and this was the only way he could do it.

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@thunderjet

I think something else is happening here.

Borys is probably not opening EXMO or other exchange accounts usng the KYC ID he received. I think he will be using those IDs for future fraud which might or might not be related to crypto.

About what he is doing now, it is a case of customer wanting Upaycard topped up and Minex is playing the middle man role.

Customers will not be able to login at Upaycard to view transactions because Borys wants them to stay bound to Minexpay. The ordered cards from Upaycard and kept the logins for themselves then took the cards out of the packaging and then sent them off to Minex customers.

All transcations would also appear on Upaycard website if customer could login but Borys is making there a case for Minexpay to exist (after getting no licence from VISA or Mastercard) and this was the only way he could do it.

You are right that Minexpay( Chain2pay) is unwanted middle man between Upaycard and the customers. Customers will not have access to theirs accounts on Upaycard,because everything is going over Minexpay,which put Boris in superior position to drain more money through his special fees and minimal required balance in MNX coins.

I dont know for what in future he can use customers IDs,but I know that for selling MNX coins and topping cards with EUR, he has to use EXMO exchange.There is no other way to do it. EXMO requires selfie with payment card if you want to withdraw money via card.

Boris cards are non-branded, he is using illegaly UAB KD account on Upaycard and that is why he cant open corporate account on EXMO , sell MNX for EUR and topping customers cards directly. He is using customer IDs  and selfies with payment card without theirs permission to open individual accounts(under his full control) on EXMO with enabled option of money withdrawal via cards.This is major violation of AML regulations and customers rights.


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I think something else is happening here.

Borys is probably not opening EXMO or other exchange accounts usng the KYC ID he received. I think he will be using those IDs for future fraud which might or might not be related to crypto.

About what he is doing now, it is a case of customer wanting Upaycard topped up and Minex is playing the middle man role.

Customers will not be able to login at Upaycard to view transactions because Borys wants them to stay bound to Minexpay. The ordered cards from Upaycard and kept the logins for themselves then took the cards out of the packaging and then sent them off to Minex customers.

All transcations would also appear on Upaycard website if customer could login but Borys is making there a case for Minexpay to exist (after getting no licence from VISA or Mastercard) and this was the only way he could do it.

You are right that Minexpay( Chain2pay) is unwanted middle man between Upaycard and the customers. Customers will not have access to theirs accounts on Upaycard,because everything is going over Minexpay,which put Boris in superior position to drain more money through his special fees and minimal required balance in MNX coins.

I dont know for what in future he can use customers IDs,but I know that for selling MNX coins and topping cards with EUR, he has to use EXMO exchange.There is no other way to do it. EXMO requires selfie with payment card if you want to withdraw money via card.

Boris cards are non-branded, he is using illegaly UAB KD account on Upaycard and that is why he cant open corporate account on EXMO , sell MNX for EUR and topping customers cards directly. He is using customer IDs  and selfies with payment card without theirs permission to open individual accounts(under his full control) on EXMO with enabled option of money withdrawal via cards.This is major violation of AML regulations and customers rights.




He can sell the MNX through instabuy and convert the BTC to EUR very easy
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@thunderjet

I think something else is happening here.

Borys is probably not opening EXMO or other exchange accounts usng the KYC ID he received. I think he will be using those IDs for future fraud which might or might not be related to crypto.

About what he is doing now, it is a case of customer wanting Upaycard topped up and Minex is playing the middle man role.

Customers will not be able to login at Upaycard to view transactions because Borys wants them to stay bound to Minexpay. The ordered cards from Upaycard and kept the logins for themselves then took the cards out of the packaging and then sent them off to Minex customers.

All transcations would also appear on Upaycard website if customer could login but Borys is making there a case for Minexpay to exist (after getting no licence from VISA or Mastercard) and this was the only way he could do it.

You are right that Minexpay( Chain2pay) is unwanted middle man between Upaycard and the customers. Customers will not have access to theirs accounts on Upaycard,because everything is going over Minexpay,which put Boris in superior position to drain more money through his special fees and minimal required balance in MNX coins.

I dont know for what in future he can use customers IDs,but I know that for selling MNX coins and topping cards with EUR, he has to use EXMO exchange.There is no other way to do it. EXMO requires selfie with payment card if you want to withdraw money via card.

Boris cards are non-branded, he is using illegaly UAB KD account on Upaycard and that is why he cant open corporate account on EXMO , sell MNX for EUR and topping customers cards directly. He is using customer IDs  and selfies with payment card without theirs permission to open individual accounts(under his full control) on EXMO with enabled option of money withdrawal via cards.This is major violation of AML regulations and customers rights.




He can sell the MNX through instabuy and convert the BTC to EUR very easy

Wrong. When dealing with cards he has to convert MNX to EUR and send money to card almost instantaneuosly and he cant do it through InstaBuy. InstaBuy is not real exchange with Buy/Sell orders where you can sell MNX whenever you wants - you have to wait on a buyer who knows how long and such approach is not usable for funding payment cards. That is why Boris use EXMO and demands from customers to make a selfie with a card. He is making individual accounts on EXMO without customers knowledge,use these accounts and has full control of them ,because EXMO is only exchange where you can sell MNX for EURO immediately and withdraw money to your card. But to make withdraw to the card,EXMO demands to send them selfie with yours card.  Wink

After his illegal using third company account on Upaycard,such behaviour is not suprise any more.
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Congrats and WOW! - you have your very own censored topic now:

https://i.postimg.cc/T1qQDF1H/Screenshot-52.png

You can now talk to yourself as much you wish  Grin



Yes the scammer fools have their own censored chat room when many posts have been deleted especially the ones that continue to expose Minex and Republia as scammers

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I think something else is happening here.

Borys is probably not opening EXMO or other exchange accounts usng the KYC ID he received. I think he will be using those IDs for future fraud which might or might not be related to crypto.

About what he is doing now, it is a case of customer wanting Upaycard topped up and Minex is playing the middle man role.

Customers will not be able to login at Upaycard to view transactions because Borys wants them to stay bound to Minexpay. The ordered cards from Upaycard and kept the logins for themselves then took the cards out of the packaging and then sent them off to Minex customers.

All transcations would also appear on Upaycard website if customer could login but Borys is making there a case for Minexpay to exist (after getting no licence from VISA or Mastercard) and this was the only way he could do it.

You are right that Minexpay( Chain2pay) is unwanted middle man between Upaycard and the customers. Customers will not have access to theirs accounts on Upaycard,because everything is going over Minexpay,which put Boris in superior position to drain more money through his special fees and minimal required balance in MNX coins.

I dont know for what in future he can use customers IDs,but I know that for selling MNX coins and topping cards with EUR, he has to use EXMO exchange.There is no other way to do it. EXMO requires selfie with payment card if you want to withdraw money via card.

Boris cards are non-branded, he is using illegaly UAB KD account on Upaycard and that is why he cant open corporate account on EXMO , sell MNX for EUR and topping customers cards directly. He is using customer IDs  and selfies with payment card without theirs permission to open individual accounts(under his full control) on EXMO with enabled option of money withdrawal via cards.This is major violation of AML regulations and customers rights.




He can sell the MNX through instabuy and convert the BTC to EUR very easy

Wrong. When dealing with cards he has to convert MNX to EUR and send money to card almost instantaneuosly and he cant do it through InstaBuy. InstaBuy is not real exchange with Buy/Sell orders where you can sell MNX whenever you wants - you have to wait on a buyer who knows how long and such approach is not usable for funding payment cards. That is why Boris use EXMO and demands from customers to make a selfie with a card. He is making individual accounts on EXMO without customers knowledge,use these accounts and has full control of them ,because EXMO is only exchange where you can sell MNX for EURO immediately and withdraw money to your card. But to make withdraw to the card,EXMO demands to send them selfie with yours card.  Wink

After his illegal using third company account on Upaycard,such behaviour is not suprise any more.


I think you forgot how the service will work. Minex web wallet will act as exchange coverting crypto to fiat and these fiat sent to prepaid card issue by minexpay or whatever company. Current btc obtain through instabuy will be converted to fiat and deposited in chain2pay fiat account in a bank which act as buffer for this service, so it will be instant that way when you convert your mnx in minexpay web wallet to EUR,which is sent to your card and then spend.

These MNX spent in minexwallet go to instabuy wallet and will be placed on instabuy and sold for btc,then the btc sold in EUR due to high liquidity and the buffer will be kept constant and increase as demand increases

So boris doesn't need EXOM for the card to work
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January 09, 2019, 12:52:40 PM
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Wrong. When dealing with cards he has to convert MNX to EUR and send money to card almost instantaneuosly and he cant do it through InstaBuy. InstaBuy is not real exchange with Buy/Sell orders where you can sell MNX whenever you wants - you have to wait on a buyer who knows how long and such approach is not usable for funding payment cards. That is why Boris use EXMO and demands from customers to make a selfie with a card. He is making individual accounts on EXMO without customers knowledge,use these accounts and has full control of them ,because EXMO is only exchange where you can sell MNX for EURO immediately and withdraw money to your card. But to make withdraw to the card,EXMO demands to send them selfie with yours card.  Wink

After his illegal using third company account on Upaycard,such behaviour is not suprise any more.


Can you believe it? After all that ICO scam, time-wasting, Novarise, CSOB and countless other lies what do we see?

Just a prepaid card from Upaycard. How pathetic.

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