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November 07, 2018, 08:15:31 PM
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https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/innovation/chain2pay-launches-cryptocurrency-debit-card/

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/minexsystems-blockchain-firm-chain2pay-starts-new-cryptocurrency-debit-card/

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This is false advertising that is punishable by law in all countries

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November 09, 2018, 04:16:29 PM
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This message, although not offtopic, or whatever against rules has been deleted several times by the administrator on their topic

two posts I made have been deleted too.

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No scam bruh..
They are already doing a good business. I can understand the hiccups involved with banks but they did not tried to scam.



so its #2.
They are just too stupid to realize that it will not work.
But stupidity is no excuse.

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]and before I forget it. The next and maybe the final step will be.

MineCoin.org:
"We are so sorry. But the middleman (card program manager) scammed us. We believed him but he was just a liar."

VLOM CALLED IT.

HIS/HER POST FROM A FEW WEEKS BACK

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED !!!![


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November 15, 2018, 02:01:07 AM
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It seems funds from the Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay scam were used to prop up Republia scam

The end is very near for Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay scam now because the main inner circle scammer alliance of Racquemis1, Temhuk and Borys Shulyayev as well as paid trolls such as jedgar are looking for an exit strategy but the MNX price is below $1.50.

Either they dump and take what they can or they wait and keep putting propaganda out there in the hope the price rises so they can dump later.

Either way, it is game over for MNX.

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November 17, 2018, 07:54:22 AM
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bump
still no cards

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November 18, 2018, 03:48:10 AM
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OP do a summary of the facts and amount you lost or many members wont have patient to read everything. I gave up on the middle of the OP and ended up unsure if this is about paid cards that were never delivered or something worse.

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November 18, 2018, 11:14:50 AM
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i did not lose money. and the op is a summary...

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November 24, 2018, 04:21:19 PM
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Thanks for this topic. I also consider minexcoin cheaters and scammers.

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November 24, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
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Thanks for this topic. I also consider minexcoin cheaters and scammers.
o how did you see the scammers? out of a thousand coins, love you did not miss - the most noticeable coin. .. Yes?
 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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November 28, 2018, 10:28:05 AM
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It seems funds from the Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay scam were used to prop up Republia scam

The end is very near for Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay scam now because the main inner circle scammer alliance of Racquemis1, Temhuk and Borys Shulyayev as well as paid trolls such as jedgar are looking for an exit strategy but the MNX price is below $1.50.

Either they dump and take what they can or they wait and keep putting propaganda out there in the hope the price rises so they can dump later.

Either way, it is game over for MNX.
a long time ago i figure that they are just liers and they just wait for the moment to scam exit and Temhuk the guy claim that he is not on there team lol

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November 28, 2018, 11:57:40 AM
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a long time ago i figure that they are just liers and they just wait for the moment to scam exit and Temhuk the guy claim that he is not on there team lol

The whole Minex/Republia scam has been exposed.

As for temhuk, he is a fool who even the people working at Minex office are tired of hearing and seeing.


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December 27, 2018, 11:25:58 AM
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ty for letting me know.
i was not able to follow the topic.
have cards been sent now and is there a proof that cards are working?

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December 27, 2018, 11:30:14 AM
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I have also paid for the card 20 MinexCoins (3USD was the price for 1 MinexCoin at that time) and still no card. They promised delivery on November Cheesy.

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December 27, 2018, 01:33:37 PM
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ty for letting me know.
i was not able to follow the topic.
have cards been sent now and is there a proof that cards are working?


They locked their thread because they will face an onslaught of criticism when people complain about the third party non-Minexpay branded cards that would have been sent out without Mastercard approval. Thet cards will all get cancelled by Mastercard because they are designed to circumvent all the safety protocols that Mastercard has in place for protecting innocent customers.

They claim cards have been sent but nobody has received them. Also by their own admission these cards will not be Minexpay branded, they are third party cards but they so far have not said who the issuer is.

Lots of red flags and secrecy surrounding this scam but most of the propaganda and lies are not coming from the official Minexcoin account it is coming from the inner circle scammer alliance of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and their associates.

The VP left on 19th December 2018, slowly they are all leaving: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.msg48858886#msg48858886



yurez83 even posted this image yesterday saying that was the card he received in the post but then edited his post to get rid of the evidence but somebody already replied quoting him so that backfired and now he cannot remove another lie from the thread:


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December 27, 2018, 11:16:47 PM
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The scammers have locked their thread "official thread": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.23540

They ran ot of excuses,lies and insults. It seems like they are abandoning Minex which is looking now like half sunken Titanic and concentrate all theirs efforts on new scam project Republia - which is now officilay ended.

It is hilarious how they are claiming all the time that these projects is not connected, but all Minex trolls also work for Republia Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It is interesting how they locked Minex thread soon after I posted that is possible connection between Minex and Boris construction companies and that reason why Minex didnt accomplish anything from whitelist could be connected to diverting money to these companies which have so many lawsuits against them on ukranian courts.

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December 28, 2018, 12:38:55 AM
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They ran ot of excuses,lies and insults. It seems like they are abandoning Minex which is looking now like half sunken Titanic and concentrate all theirs efforts on new scam project Republia - which is now officilay ended.

It is hilarious how they are claiming all the time that these projects is not connected, but all Minex trolls also work for Republia Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It is interesting how they locked Minex thread soon after I posted that is possible connection between Minex and Boris construction companies and that reason why Minex didnt accomplish anything from whitelist could be connected to diverting money to these companies which have so many lawsuits against them on ukranian courts.




Republia and Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay are obviously connected because of the "Borys and Son" connection but these scammers keep denying it.

Anyway here is the "official" Minexpay card that somebody has received today and posted it on their Telegram.

Obviously scammer yurez83 posted the image yesterday before trying to delete it because he knew that was the card being sent out, he is Republia "ambassador" after all  Grin





They could easily have just taken an off the shelf prepay Mastercard and used that card number to show transactions using API in their web wallet. The "test" card did not have to be supplied by the third party and was only called a "test" card by the scammers while they ran their own tests.

In all probability they used a prepay card and added balance to it, simple using an API. The process just takes longer so probably that is why in those videos of transactions taking place in shops and ATMs they kept refreshing the page on the phone to update balance but it usually took 5 minutes to update. It is probably because it is following a longer route. Instead of going from:

customer >>> card
card >>> customer

they are probably going from

customer >>> Minex scammers >>> third party real card owner >>> card
card >>> third party real card owner >>> Minex scammers >>> customer

Also IF the Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin scammers really are going to send out cards it seems that these cards are purchased in bulk, their wrapping will have to be opened, their card numbers logged by Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin scammers and then the cards will be sent to Minexpay customers.

There is also a possibility that the card issuer of those cards purchased in bulk does not even know what scam the Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin scammers are about to pull so could be completely innocent. maybe they have no dealing at all with Borys and co because they were purchased from local shops and not directly from the card issuer. I would not put it past Borys and co to do that.

As soon as Mastercard are informed about the scam they will cancel all the cards AND they will make sure whether it is Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin or Chain2Pay - any request for creating and selling cards related to these scammers will automatically be dismissed, Borys and co will be blacklisted by VISA and Mastercard to ever apply for a card program.

This will all end in disaster for innocent customers who will be left with worthless and useless cards on their hands but hopefully it will end up with another court case against Borys and co






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December 28, 2018, 02:27:56 AM
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They ran ot of excuses,lies and insults. It seems like they are abandoning Minex which is looking now like half sunken Titanic and concentrate all theirs efforts on new scam project Republia - which is now officilay ended.

It is hilarious how they are claiming all the time that these projects is not connected, but all Minex trolls also work for Republia Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It is interesting how they locked Minex thread soon after I posted that is possible connection between Minex and Boris construction companies and that reason why Minex didnt accomplish anything from whitelist could be connected to diverting money to these companies which have so many lawsuits against them on ukranian courts.




Republia and Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay are obviously connected because of the "Borys and Son" connection but these scammers keep denying it.

Anyway here is the "official" Minexpay card that somebody has received today and posted it on their Telegram.

Obviously scammer yurez83 posted the image yesterday before trying to delete it because he knew that was the card being sent out, he is Republia "ambassador" after all  Grin





They could easily have just taken an off the shelf prepay Mastercard and used that card number to show transactions using API in their web wallet. The "test" card did not have to be supplied by the third party and was only called a "test" card by the scammers while they ran their own tests.

In all probability they used a prepay card and added balance to it, simple using an API. The process just takes longer so probably that is why in those videos of transactions taking place in shops and ATMs they kept refreshing the page on the phone to update balance but it usually took 5 minutes to update. It is probably because it is following a longer route. Instead of going from:

customer >>> card
card >>> customer

they are probably going from

customer >>> Minex scammers >>> third party real card owner >>> card
card >>> third party real card owner >>> Minex scammers >>> customer

Also IF the Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin scammers really are going to send out cards it seems that these cards are purchased in bulk, their wrapping will have to be opened, their card numbers logged by Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin scammers and then the cards will be sent to Minexpay customers.

There is also a possibility that the card issuer of those cards purchased in bulk does not even know what scam the Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin scammers are about to pull so could be completely innocent. maybe they have no dealing at all with Borys and co because they were purchased from local shops and not directly from the card issuer. I would not put it past Borys and co to do that.

As soon as Mastercard are informed about the scam they will cancel all the cards AND they will make sure whether it is Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin or Chain2Pay - any request for creating and selling cards related to these scammers will automatically be dismissed, Borys and co will be blacklisted by VISA and Mastercard to ever apply for a card program.

This will all end in disaster for innocent customers who will be left with worthless and useless cards on their hands but hopefully it will end up with another court case against Borys and co






Card looks fishy. It is not same card Yurez posted,which have different design ,colour and hologram than todays Upay cards have.


If it is card they sent:

- they used Chain2Pay to get corporate account,because Upay works only with EEA companies and individuals and Chain2Pay is registred in Estonia which is EEA member

- cards are non-branded

- they presented theirs users like its workers not customers - otherwise they could not get cards,because it is strictly forbidden to give third party cards as your owns to your customers.Upay is not unknown company and if it is possible, all other crypto card related companies would do the same long time ago . Cheesy    They would not certainly spent many months to get all necessary licenses for branded cards if they could gave customers non-branded ones

- so Chain2Pay faked real status of people they give cards and theirs real place of residence

- Upay works only for with EEA companies and individuals(has license from Mastercard only for EEA area) - cards cant get individuals or companies which are not residents of EEA zone( 31 country) -  Ukraine,Belarus and others countries are not member of EEA,so Chain2Pay has no right to give them cards.

They did it which is illegal and directly violate Upay Mastercard license and FCA rules and regulations under Upay works. Chain2Pay could do it only if they faked residence of customers which are not from EEA zone or they did it by blatantly violated Upay goodwill and trust,which is Minex hallmark Wink

- They claimed in Telegram conversation how it is temporary design - there are not such things as temporary designs - they first had to make issuing contract and after fullfiling some necessary regulations they have to present Mastercard theirs card design for approval. They cant issue non-branded cards until they are waiting for Mastercard approval !! Chain2Pay does not have any issuing contract so they are not even in position to wait for approval!


Resime:

Chain2Pay falsely presented customers as workers and even maybe falsified theirs place of residence

They are directly violating Mastercards rules and regulations using third party(non-branded) cards as their owns

They are directly violating FCA rules and regulations under Upay works by sending cards to members which are not EEA residents

So much violations certainly lead to card cancellation from Upay, FCA or Mastercard - depends from who Chain2Pay violations will be spotted first



It will turn to real nightmare for the customers.


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After thorough investigation I have additional informations which will completely debunk this payment cards drama:

- If you carefully look at the card presented on Telegram as Minex card you will see on the bottom of the card a name UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS

But this is not a name of some person ,but name of Lithuanian Human resources company !!








What happened?

Boris made illegal, secret deal with owner of this Lithuanian company.

UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company(eng translation CRYSTAL BOTTOM,strange name for HR company) will present Boris customers as theirs recruiters-workers.

This Lithuanian company made a contract with UPAY(probably had it already), not Boris company.


Same Lithuanian company probably provided false residence documentation for Minex non-EEA members.

Most certainly UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company didnt do it for free ,but for some arranged percentage, they will illegally give Boris full control under theirs account on UPAY, which has no clue about this secret deal.

This is so illegal and not only some agreement breach, but criminal behaviour.  Who will get them first UPAY,Mastercard,FCA or Lithuanian authorities ,we will see.

Unfortunately ,this is Minex self-destruction made by completely irresponsible and reckless acts of owner and his mens.


 
https://www.visalietuva.lt/en/company/uab-kristolinis-dugnas - KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company registration data

http://www.kursurasti.lt/lt/katalogas/veikla-nezinoma/kristolinis-dugnas-uab.html - same as above

http://kristolinisrecruitment.lt/terms.html - UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS  company site
















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December 28, 2018, 05:57:21 PM
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They have created another post in altcoin discussion section Cheesy. Maybe they want to forgot about what happened and start again with a clean shield, but they are already painted, made many mistakes and sold their reserve coins, completely dead project.

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They have created another post in altcoin discussion section Cheesy. Maybe they want to forgot about what happened and start again with a clean shield, but they are already painted, made many mistakes and sold their reserve coins, completely dead project.

Do you have a link to their new thread?

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They have created another post in altcoin discussion section Cheesy. Maybe they want to forgot about what happened and start again with a clean shield, but they are already painted, made many mistakes and sold their reserve coins, completely dead project.

Do you have a link to their new thread?

Minex new and fully censored(self-moderated Cheesy) thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539
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