Percentage of Merit received on old posts, deleted posts, and average per post

[LoyceV]

Out of curiosity, I created a small script to compare Merit received for posts made before and after the introduction of the Merit system.

Get yours
To get your (or someone else's) stats, just ask and I'll post it. It requires scraping your post history so takes some time per request.

Known limitations
Merit received on non-public boards (such as Investigations) are counted as deleted posts. (Starting August 2, 2019, I scrape posts from a logged in account.)
I use last Friday's Merit data and the current number of posts, this makes the results less accurate.
I ignore all airdropped Merit.

Disclaimer
I might have made a mistake somewhere, if so, please let me know
I'll sometimes add stats for a user so that I have a reference link.

A few examples
User satoshi (full history)

• Received a total of 1222 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 1222 Merit (100.00%) for 21 (3.89%) of 539 posts created before the introduction of Merit (2.2671 Merit per old post).
• Received 0 Merit for 0 of 0 posts created after the introduction of Merit.
• Received 0 Merit for posts that are now deleted.

User theymos (full history)

• Received a total of 2826 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 1513 Merit (53.53%) for 41 (0.59%) of 6940 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.2180 Merit per old post).
• Received 1299 Merit (45.96%) for 126 (32.81%) of 384 posts created after the introduction of Merit (3.3828 Merit per new post).
• Received 14 Merit (0.49%) for posts that are now deleted.

User LoyceV (full history)

• Received a total of 1135 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 88 Merit (7.75%) for 9 (0.26%) of 3404 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0258 Merit per old post).
• Received 1045 Merit (92.07%) for 282 (10.45%) of 2696 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3876 Merit per new post).
• Received 2 Merit (0.17%) for posts that are now deleted.

User LoyceMobile (full history)

• Received a total of 25 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 23 Merit (92.00%) for 131 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1755 Merit per new post).
• Received 2 Merit (8.00%) for posts that are now deleted.

User DdmrDdmr (full history)

• Received a total of 1060 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 1059 Merit (99.90%) for 1061 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.9981 Merit per new post).
• Received 1 Merit (0.09%) for posts that are now deleted.

User mprep (full history)

• Received a total of 216 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 144 Merit (66.66%) for 7686 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0187 Merit per old post).
• Received 53 Merit (24.53%) for 736 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0720 Merit per new post).
• Received 19 Merit (8.79%) for posts that are now deleted.

User hilariousandco (full history)

• Received a total of 330 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 154 Merit (46.66%) for 17969 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0085 Merit per old post).
• Received 134 Merit (40.60%) for 726 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1845 Merit per new post).
• Received 42 Merit (12.72%) for posts that are now deleted.

User hilariousetc (full history)

• Received a total of 941 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 9 Merit (0.95%) for 1193 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0075 Merit per old post).
• Received 930 Merit (98.83%) for 1591 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.5845 Merit per new post).
• Received 2 Merit (0.21%) for posts that are now deleted.

User Vod (full history)

• Received a total of 750 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 115 Merit (15.33%) for 14100 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0081 Merit per old post).
• Received 584 Merit (77.86%) for 1791 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3260 Merit per new post).
• Received 51 Merit (6.80%) for posts that are now deleted.

User Alex_Sr (full history) (why Alex_Sr)

• Received a total of 277 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 145 Merit (52.34%) for 552 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2626 Merit per new post).
• Received 132 Merit (47.65%) for posts that are now deleted.

User nullius (full history)

• Received a total of 757 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 72 Merit (9.51%) for 289 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.2491 Merit per old post).
• Received 685 Merit (90.48%) for 642 posts created after the introduction of Merit (1.0669 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

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[Lafu]

Count me in  , let me see my stats !  

[suchmoon]

Please add me.

Satoshi is clearly cheating. No chance for anyone to beat that.

[Thekool1s]

I know mine lol...

Merit airdrop = 1000
Merit earned after the introduction = 45... 'Technically' just a member for now. A long way from becoming a 'self-made legendary' xDD

Satoshi is clearly cheating. No chance for anyone to beat that.

Technically theymos is making satoshi cheat

[mk4]

It still bothers me up to this day that the new merit system was implemented just around 2 weeks before I was going to get promoted to Hero member.

But whatever. 146(396-250) from the initial merit "airdrop" isn't bad I guess. Nice topic though! Mind uploading the script on Github?

[actmyname]

+1. Interested. Good project.(Please add me to the list, thanks.)

[S_Therapist]

Merit airdrop = 1000
Merit earned after the introduction = 45... 'Technically' just a member for now. A long way from becoming a 'self-made legendary' xDD

I think you are misunderstanding this calculation. LoyceV is not counting the airdropped merit here.
You have received 45 merits. LoyceV is checking whether you have received those merits on posts from before/after merit implementation.

@LoyceV
Can you please add stats for theymos? Would be nice to see, IMO.

[Piggy]

Could be quite useful to show this information, in particular merits on post deleted and post created pre-merit system.
Are you going to include it directly in the merit profile page of each user?

[DdmrDdmr]

I gave it a go a couple of weeks ago (see Analysis – Personal merit per day, merit per post and ranking-up projections), but on the merit per post I concentrated in the last four months of history for technical reasons (available snapshots). It’s interesting to see the distinction of posts you’ve created, and that you’ve managed to get the number of posts before the introduction of the merit system (I presume you’ve managed to get hold of a snapshot around the time).

[TheBeardedBaby]

You can count me too. Seems interesting
I was just a member when the merit system came and I had not so much content but I can guess what will be the score before the merit - around 41

[Nikisa]

+1 And me add please. I really like topics with statistics. My ratio merit per new post will be approximately 0.49

User Nikisa (full history)

• Received a total of 102 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 102 Merit (100.0%) for 206 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.4951 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

 

[LoyceV]

Count me in  , let me see my stats !  

User Lafu (full history)

• Received a total of 172 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 1406 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 172 Merit (100.00%) for 886 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1941 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Please add me.

Errors to fix first It seems to fail on users with many posts.
Update: you have 9 less pages of post history when I'm not logged in (which is what my scraper gets). Vod misses 10 pages. That caused the errors. Here's yours:
User suchmoon (full history)

• Received a total of 777 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 111 Merit (14.28%) for 11129 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0099 Merit per old post).
• Received 656 Merit (84.42%) for 2371 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2766 Merit per new post).
• Received 10 Merit (1.28%) for posts that are now deleted.

I know mine lol...

User Thekool1s (full history)

• Received a total of 45 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 1400 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 45 Merit (100.00%) for 349 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1289 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Nice topic though!

Thanks Here's yours:
User mjglqw (full history)

• Received a total of 146 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 2 Merit (1.36%) for 1975 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0010 Merit per old post).
• Received 133 Merit (91.09%) for 2027 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0656 Merit per new post).
• Received 11 Merit (7.53%) for posts that are now deleted.

Mind uploading the script on Github?

I won't, for several reasons:
1. I don't use Microsoft products
2. I made shitty code
3. I don't want to enable more users to increase forum load by scraping more data.

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User actmyname (full history)

• Received a total of 285 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 11 Merit (3.85%) for 2843 posts created before the introduction of Merit (.0038 Merit per old post).
• Received 266 Merit (93.33%) for 1029 posts created after the introduction of Merit (.2585 Merit per new post).
• Received 8 Merit (2.80%) for posts that are now deleted.

@LoyceV
Can you please add stats for theymos? Would be nice to see, IMO.

OP already mentioned theymos, I'll add him soon. Here's yours:
User S_Therapist (full history)

• Received a total of 12 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 12 Merit (100.00%) for 92 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1304 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Are you going to include it directly in the merit profile page of each user?

I wish I could! But it requires scraping the entire post history (yours is 196 pages), and it would be far too much data to do this for all merited users. Here's yours:
User Piggy (full history)

• Received a total of 656 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for 2088 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 648 Merit (98.78%) for 1820 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3560 Merit per new post).
• Received 8 Merit (1.21%) for posts that are now deleted.

It’s interesting to see the distinction of posts you’ve created, and that you’ve managed to get the number of posts before the introduction of the merit system (I presume you’ve managed to get hold of a snapshot around the time).

I'm scraping all posts made by a user. That gives me much more information than I need for this, but it's the only way to know for sure which posts have been deleted.
At current stats, you're above 1 Merit per post on average again. I kinda lowered your average (0.9981 Merit per new post) by using last Friday's Merit data and the current number of posts. I'll add this limitation to the OP.

You can count me too. Seems interesting

User iasenko (full history)

• Received a total of 532 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 42 Merit (7.89%) for 117 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.3589 Merit per old post).
• Received 490 Merit (92.10%) for 1523 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3217 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

I can guess what will be the score before the merit - around 41

Close!

+1 And me add please. I really like topics with statistics. My ratio merit per new post will be approximately 0.49

You added yourself, nicely done. However, I use last Friday's Merit data, so I'd get lower numbers.

[Piggy]

I wish I could! But it requires scraping the entire post history (yours is 196 pages), and it would be far too much data to do this for all merited users. Here's yours:

Yes, it's a lot of pages to parse again from the back log till now, but once that big chunk is done is going to be fairly easy to keep it updated, since you are already parsing the merited messages to get the title of the thread

Anyway, is good to have it on demand as well.

[LoyceV]

Interesting, please check mine as well

User ETFbitcoin (full history)

• Received a total of 163 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 5 Merit (3.06%) for 5151 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0009 Merit per old post).
• Received 147 Merit (90.18%) for 1063 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1382 Merit per new post).
• Received 11 Merit (6.74%) for posts that are now deleted.

2. No problem as long as you don't name variable such as a, b or c. Besides other people might contribute to your code.

Of course not, that would be rediculous, I usually use i, j, k and t for temporary variables
Jokes aside, it's all pretty straight forward, anyone who knows any real programming language can easily do it. All you need is full Merit data (currently 6 MB), you can scrape the rest.

Yes, it's a lot of pages to parse again from the back log till now, but once that big chunk is done is going to be fairly easy to keep it updated, since you are already parsing the merited messages to get the title of the thread

For finding abuse, the merited deleted posts are the most interesting part. And that's something I can only find by scraping the entire post history, modlog doesn't show it when a user deletes his own post.

[mk4]

Nice topic though!

Thanks Here's yours:
User mjglqw (full history)

• Received a total of 146 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 2 Merit (1.36%) for 1975 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0010 Merit per old post).
• Received 133 Merit (91.09%) for 2027 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0656 Merit per new post).
• Received 11 Merit (7.53%) for posts that are now deleted.

I'm quite fine with my 146 merits, but yikes 7.53% from deleted posts. I don't know what to feel about that. Thanks though!

Looks like you're going to do a lot of work due to the number of requests.

[Foxpup]

Do me! And, if it's not too much to ask, the members of the Vulpine Order of Merit whom you haven't already done or are going to do (Jet Cash, achow101, gmaxwell, and o_e_l_e_o). I'm interested to know if my high expectations for the Order are justified.

[Jet Cash]

I've slowed down a bit recently, as I've got involved in a few associated projects. I'm trying to improve my efficiency in merit awarding, and that is why I started the snow eagle site. I'd be interested to know how much this has affected my posting behaviour though.

I can add the Vulpine Order of Merit members to my avatar page on snow eagles if you think it would be useful. I'm already finding it handyl to check on the latest posts by the members listed.

[vphasitha01]

Can you try for me LoyceV


@LoyceV can you list the users who awarded the most number of merits for the deleted posts?

Btw why you specifically chosen Alex_Sr for your list in the OP? Is he the member who has the most merits for the post that are now deleted?

I'm somewhat confused to understand whether this number is positive indicator or negative indicator when comparing stats

I've slowed down a bit recently, as I've got involved in a few associated projects. I'm trying to improve my efficiency in merit awarding, and that is why I started the snow eagle site.

You're a great asset for bitcointalk as a merit source and well as a good poster. Don't you think you're pressing too hard when awarding merits? Don't be too complicated and analyse so many variables when awarding Merits just give it after checking whether the member is shitposter or not, whether s/he gives something to the forum and whether the user plagarised the post or not. If unspent Merits will remained with a merit source at the end of a month wouldn't do any good for the forum (at least as I see)

[Jet Cash]

If unspent Merits will remained with a merit source at the end of a month wouldn't do any good for the forum (at least as I see)

Source merits are a constant flow, and not a monthly update. They are replaced 30 days after being awarded. If they aren't awarded instantly, they aren't lost, it just means a slight delay in their replacement.

Just to clarify the reason for creating Snow Eagle. It has let me play with a new template that I quite liked, and I can use the knowledge gained in building it to create landing pages for domains that I want to sell. It has a positive benefit for me in the forum as well.

[suchmoon]

Thanks for the numbers!

Errors to fix first It seems to fail on users with many posts.
Update: you have 9 less pages of post history when I'm not logged in (which is what my scraper gets). Vod misses 10 pages. That caused the errors. Here's yours:

Posts in Investigations etc? Not sure if there could be that many though. Sorry that my shitposting broke your code