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March 08, 2014, 02:15:56 AM
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Hi all,

I'm selling "I'm Satoshi Nakamoto" T-shirts in support of this - 50% of profits will go to this fund.

Check out the main thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506269.0

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March 08, 2014, 04:28:44 AM
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There is no way this Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin. The real Satoshi has great command of the English language. This individual clearly does not. The bitcoin white paper and hundreds of communications by Satoshi contrast profoundly with the poorly written items accredited to this individual. This is an epic Fail

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March 08, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
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There is no way this Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin. The real Satoshi has great command of the English language. This individual clearly does not. The bitcoin white paper and hundreds of communications by Satoshi contrast profoundly with the poorly written items accredited to this individual. This is an epic Fail

How so?  This old guy got his name dragged through mud by the mainstream, car chased, harassed at his home, and life generally put in danger by this Newsweek revelation.  If that Newsweek article is correct in that "this" Satoshi is in financial and health ruin, why not help a fellow human being in need.

Worst case this shows the humanitarian and fund raising aspect of Bitcoin.  This is a positive thing and paints Bitcoin in a positive light, instead of all the negative news.

This is a win win for the Bitcoin community no matter what.

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March 08, 2014, 04:36:54 AM
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will folks please stop quoting Mr. Crappo

I, for one, don't want to expose myself to the toxic stupidity.

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March 08, 2014, 05:03:14 AM
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I think it's fun to spend bitcoin on something like this. And I did. Otherwise HODL...
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March 08, 2014, 05:04:28 AM
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The internet has opened my eyes to how even when positive things are done. People will still find something to complain about or try to turn it into a negative.



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March 08, 2014, 06:13:03 AM
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The internet has opened my eyes to how even when positive things are done. People will still find something to complain about or try to turn it into a negative.




only some people

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March 08, 2014, 07:24:32 AM
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So now Dorian is involved with bitcoins.



We're going to hook him up with Google Glass next to enhance his hobby.



Is it just me, or does anyone else see a correlation between blockchain and trains?
(I know I'm over thinking)
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March 08, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
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Already 36 BTC, I'm surprised.

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March 08, 2014, 11:45:38 AM
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Already 36 BTC, I'm surprised.

I am not!!!

I am just glad  Smiley
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March 08, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
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Already 36 BTC, I'm surprised.

I am not!!!

I am just glad  Smiley

Up to 38+ now and still rising....

Good moral stance aside, this is excellent positive publicity for Bitcoin that the media will hopefully pick up as a "happily ever after" epilogue to this mess they created in Dorian's life.

While I hope they won't, my only concern is the media responsible for this may try to spin it where they try and take the credit for this outcome. Sad

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March 08, 2014, 04:43:10 PM
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Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

He did it on purpose!  It was to throw everyone off!  Grin

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March 08, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
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Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.
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March 08, 2014, 05:04:26 PM
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Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I'll tell you what is a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

Satoshi went to extreme lengths to conceal his identity. Satoshi is obviously not stupid. Yet, Satoshi apparently used his real name for all communications involving Bitcoin.

Wut? o_O
It's called hiding in plain sight.

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Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I'll tell you what is a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

Satoshi went to extreme lengths to conceal his identity. Satoshi is obviously not stupid. Yet, Satoshi apparently used his real name for all communications involving Bitcoin.

Wut? o_O
It's called hiding in plain sight.

Uh huh.
What is with the uh uh? However, Dorian has a bit too many coincidences with the creator of Bitcoin(namely working for a cryptographic department in his old job).

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March 08, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
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d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.

No.  Its not.   Its far more likely its an "I want to meet Satoshi" scheme.  Andreas doesn't steal Bitcoins from people.  He has a long history of donating.

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March 08, 2014, 06:37:41 PM
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d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.

No.  Its not.   Its far more likely its an "I want to meet Satoshi" scheme.  Andreas doesn't steal Bitcoins from people.  He has a long history of donating.

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Andreas is pissed at the news media right now, and part of the reason for this campaign is illuminating and correcting the damage they do.
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March 08, 2014, 06:38:05 PM
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What is with the uh uh? However, Dorian has a bit too many coincidences with the creator of Bitcoin(namely working for a cryptographic department in his old job).


The existence of coincidences doesn't mean there's evidence he's satoshi, it just means you have a conspiracy theory.


So?  There is no shame in having a theory or hypothesis and testing it.  Or at least it is not shameful to some people.  Quite the opposite to a lot of us.  Maybe the theory is wrong.  Many theories are and there is nothing wrong with that.  The only failure in my opinion is to fail to test a theory sufficiently before either abandoning it or accepting it.

The funny thing is that this is one of the very few theories which really cannot be considered a 'conspiracy' theory.  This because it does not involve more than one person since the suggestion here is that Satoshi/Dorian worked alone without being deceptive in his goals.

People are trained (and very effectively so) to recoil at the words 'conspiracy theory'.  It is designed to be something which abruptly halts analysis since doing so paints the analyst as automatically being a dangerous insane person.

This is much like the training in the U.S. to refer to people of African descent as 'African Americans'.  The training is so strong that you'll hear Africans being called 'African Americans from Africa.'


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March 08, 2014, 07:19:11 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
However, if this person is not Satoshi, then these funds will serve as a "sorry for what happened to you", help with medical bills his family is facing, any legal bills they may incur, or anything else. Most of all, it serves to soften the damage caused by irresponsible journalism and to demonstrate the generosity and empathy of the community, which I know is huge
Here's how it will work. I will collect donations to a single bitcoin address, posted below, with the following rules:
Donations accepted until the end of March.
At the end of March, donations will be converted to USD and delivered to Dorian Nakamoto.
If the donation is rejected by Dorian, then the funds will go to a charity of his choice
If he doesn't want to choose a charity, funds will be donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Any funds sent after the deadline, will be donated to Dorian at a later date, or a charity of his choice or EFF as above.
After the end of March, I will make my best effort to contact Dorian and deliver the donations in USD. I will document as much of that process as possible to prove the donations were delivered, as long as that documentation does not affect Dorian's privacy.
The blockchain will provide transparency of all funds donated, which will not move from that address until the funds are delivered to the intended recipient based on the rules above.


Donation address: 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
Check the fundraising progress here: https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Is this anything like www.FindSatoshiNakamoto.com?
Are you also planning on investigating who dorian is in reward for giving him the donation?

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March 08, 2014, 07:24:35 PM
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Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I'll tell you what is a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

Satoshi went to extreme lengths to conceal his identity. Satoshi is obviously not stupid. Yet, Satoshi apparently used his real name for all communications involving Bitcoin.

Wut? o_O


Who said he went to extreme lengths? When all this started he never could have imagined Bitcoin would become so successful, thus his attempts to obfuscate his identity could well have been playful like using a previous name
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