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Title: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 07, 2014, 05:38:34 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
However, if this person is not Satoshi, then these funds will serve as a "sorry for what happened to you", help with medical bills his family is facing, any legal bills they may incur, or anything else. Most of all, it serves to soften the damage caused by irresponsible journalism and to demonstrate the generosity and empathy of the community, which I know is huge
Here's how it will work. I will collect donations to a single bitcoin address, posted below, with the following rules:
Donations accepted until the end of March.
At the end of March, donations will be converted to USD and delivered to Dorian Nakamoto.
If the donation is rejected by Dorian, then the funds will go to a charity of his choice
If he doesn't want to choose a charity, funds will be donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Any funds sent after the deadline, will be donated to Dorian at a later date, or a charity of his choice or EFF as above.
After the end of March, I will make my best effort to contact Dorian and deliver the donations in USD. I will document as much of that process as possible to prove the donations were delivered, as long as that documentation does not affect Dorian's privacy.
The blockchain will provide transparency of all funds donated, which will not move from that address until the funds are delivered to the intended recipient based on the rules above.


Donation address: 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
Check the fundraising progress here: https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 05:48:35 PM
Wow, I've never seen donations pour in so quickly!  This is inspirational!!

https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: FlappySocks on March 07, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
http://www.listentobitcoin.com is going nuts!  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: btbrae on March 07, 2014, 05:52:43 PM
Is this legit? I don't use Reddit (yet).


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Z1# on March 07, 2014, 05:53:52 PM
WHAT.....You are taking up a collection for a man that has millions of dollars worth of Bitcoins.  That reminds me of the Big Banks bale out of 2009. Welfare for the rich. ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: btbrae on March 07, 2014, 05:54:35 PM
WHAT.....You are taking up a collection for a man that has millions of dollars worth of Bitcoins.  That reminds me of the Big Banks bale out of 2009. Welfare for the rich. ::)

This is obviously for people who don't believe it's him. If you don't agree then don't donate, simple?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tinus42 on March 07, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
I think he rather would just like to be left alone. This is a very nice gesture but it will create more media buzz about him. He is probably longing for the day when everyone forgets about him.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitbouillion on March 07, 2014, 05:57:56 PM
This Newsweek idiot should say "sorry" this way.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: rat on March 07, 2014, 05:59:04 PM

oh, look.

it's the daily donation thread.

for a guy who doesn't care about bitcoin


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Γεία σoυ ρε Aνδρέα παλλικάρι μoυ,

I have actually tried this but people thought I was a scammer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504344.0

None the less, I am glad you did this.

I have donated!

Thank you for putting out the message that Bitcoin belongs to everyone and we are willing to do everything to protect it!

Thank you!  :D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: alexeft on March 07, 2014, 06:01:52 PM
Well done Andreas!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 07, 2014, 06:04:23 PM
This Newsweek idiot should say "sorry" this way.

I tweeted her the link.   :D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: rat on March 07, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
for a guy who doesn't care about bitcoin

That's fine, he will be getting dollars.

lol. he wants nothing to do with this BS.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Lauda on March 07, 2014, 06:06:46 PM
He definitely needs the money. There's already over 10 BTC, good job.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Torn on March 07, 2014, 06:11:24 PM
Very nice of you.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: LaurenMac on March 07, 2014, 06:12:10 PM
I shared it in the G+ Bitcoin community and we are tweeting it out. This is really great.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: runam0k on March 07, 2014, 06:35:00 PM
Now if only the real Satoshi would kindly man up and send 1,000 coins Dorian's way. ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: vinipoars on March 07, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
So now Dorian is involved with bitcoins.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/db649f4441940d7fcbbc2bd5d6646bc1/tumblr_mwou7iZK3C1s9n4cro1_250.gif


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: runam0k on March 07, 2014, 06:43:57 PM
Now if only the real Satoshi would kindly man up and send 10,000 coins Dorian's way. ;D
On second thoughts, if Dorian was Satoshi, maybe he would do this as a way of cashing out a few of his own coins. :o



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: vinipoars on March 07, 2014, 06:59:02 PM
Now if only the real Satoshi would kindly man up and send 10,000 coins Dorian's way. ;D
On second thoughts, if Dorian was Satoshi, maybe he would do this as a way of cashing out a few of his own coins. :o


checkmate.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: HorseCoin on March 07, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Now if only the real Satoshi would kindly man up and send 1,000 coins Dorian's way. ;D

i got 1000 doge (i wish)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BTCisthefuture on March 07, 2014, 07:13:13 PM
Wow almost $10,000 already ?

I'll be donating as well!

It feels good just to do something nice.  Whoever this guy is, it's a nice thing being done for him. Either as a thank you or a sorry gesture.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tvbcof on March 07, 2014, 07:13:29 PM

If Dorian is Satoshi and has not lost access to his stash and distributes the stash as broadly as possible* then I will pledge at least 1 BTC converted to fiat if desired to Satoshi or anything he likes.

If Dorian is not Satoshi and is instead some random guy who got caught up in the mess, I'll help out as the situation evolves.

(*) especially to Americans since the U.S. is the dominant world power and pressure on the legislative and legal systems of that country would have the most leverage.  OTOH, focusing on producing public pressure in Russia or China could be equally or more beneficial from a strategic perspective.  OTOOH, I see some benefit to have the Satoshi hoard be of ambiguous nature although the U.S. Govt's hoard is probably bigger that this time especially when combine with the Winklevoss hoard.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Z1# on March 07, 2014, 07:14:51 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: chinacoinbase on March 07, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
He is! he has enough bitcoin, about 500K BTC, any donation is worse for him, he need a normal life with deep think and keep heart quiet and move on the next project. please do not use that to disturb him again. ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: runam0k on March 07, 2014, 07:17:56 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.
I don't know, he was quick to demand a free lunch.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BidcoinBernd on March 07, 2014, 07:20:16 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.

Wow, you really know him well.

If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.
I don't know, he was quick to demand a free lunch.

Haha, this. First thing he does is to sell the interview to the reporter with the lunch.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Omega0255 on March 07, 2014, 07:20:58 PM
Dorian Nakamoto is going to be a whale after this, regardless if he's the REAL Satoshi Nakamoto  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Omega0255 on March 07, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.

Perhaps it can go to his family members?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Keyser Soze on March 07, 2014, 07:24:42 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.

Perhaps it can go to his family members?
It is pretty clear what will happen to the funds if he does not want them.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Omega0255 on March 07, 2014, 07:32:46 PM
Man I wish that was my bitcoin address. You can almost watch the number of transactions increase in real time.  :o



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: casinocoin on March 07, 2014, 07:33:27 PM

That he is, he's got more BTC then me already!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Omega0255 on March 07, 2014, 07:35:21 PM
That's one way to make 11000 dollars in 2 hours  ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: boomertoo on March 07, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
transactions are chugging right along on the blockchain .

This is very cool, a very good indication of the depth of the bitcoin community.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: boomertoo on March 07, 2014, 07:54:14 PM
Correct Address
1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 07:55:05 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.
I don't know, he was quick to demand a free lunch.

Not just that, the guy already lost his house once coz he couldn't afford to make the payments.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Correct Address
1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

WTF does that mean?

That my donation doesn't count?

EDIT: Or are you just trying to scam us?




Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 07, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Correct Address
1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

WTF does that mean?

That my donation doesn't count?

EDIT: Or are you just trying to scam us?







some douchebag changed the correct addy in his post, proving yet again that escaping dumb assholes is impossible. 

I'd suggest going to the reddit page and following that link if there is any confusion.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bananas on March 07, 2014, 08:13:53 PM
satoshi does not need any money, i do. donate to me.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tvbcof on March 07, 2014, 08:16:59 PM
If he is the real Satoshi or not, he is a man of principle and money/bitcoin is not the most important thing in his life. Leave the man alone. I know it is hard for most of you to believe that some people do not put money first in their life. He likes his privacy. If you ask him, he would tell you to keep your damn charity. He does not want or need your handout. Maybe you should just ask him first so you do not insult him.
I don't know, he was quick to demand a free lunch.

Not just that, the guy already lost his house once coz he couldn't afford to make the payments.


To be fair the argument was that this event which happened some time ago, and getting rooked on international wires for his train hobby produced incentive to work on Bitcoin.  That certainly seems plausible to me.  If the story about him calling an interviewer an idiot during a job interview (and getting the job) is true then he is probably the kind of person who would be inclined to seek revenge for these injustices in a novel and effective way.

As for demanding a free lunch, that could easily be written off as a joke.  I was just involved in a six figure property deal and made it a point to demand a couple of quarters.  The absurdity of the situation is what made amusing.  Anyway, it is both fair that he get a free lunch for his hassles, and quite possible that he never took a dime from Bitcoin out of principle or for tactical reasons.  If Dorian is even Satoshi in the first place that is.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: gdassori on March 07, 2014, 08:17:17 PM
HAHAHA you guys are a bunch of fucking retards. This is obviously a scam and this retard just scammed 18 BTC out of your pockets in the last couple of hours!
The people that donated are probably the same people who kept their BTC on MTGOX. Serves you idiots right that you lost your BTC.
Such idiocity must be punished!!!!!!!

http://s29.postimg.org/l06m6kph3/retarted.png


it's marketing, baby.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 08:18:11 PM
Correct Address
1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

WTF does that mean?

That my donation doesn't count?

EDIT: Or are you just trying to scam us?







some douchebag changed the correct addy in his post, proving yet again that escaping dumb assholes is impossible. 

I'd suggest going to the reddit page and following that link if there is any confusion.

Δηλαδή όταν έκανα donation στo 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX πήγε σωστα έτσι?

Για να ξέρω αν πρέπει να ξανακάνω ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 08:20:20 PM
This guy is in his 60's, has had a stroke and looks after his 93 year old mother. His privacy has been invaded and who knows how much stress he is under. I don't think anyone is wasting their coins by donating a few dollars to him.

Andreas - I would suggest trying to get part of the funds already raised to him in the next 3 or 4 days, rather than wait to the end of March.

I'm sure he needs it now, not when the fuss has died down. Let's not collect all this cash and yet keep the guy waiting, so he has to sing for his sushi in the meantime  :-\


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 08:20:56 PM
Wow, I've never seen donations pour in so quickly!  This is inspirational!!

https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

I just now found this thread and have donated.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: vinipoars on March 07, 2014, 08:21:45 PM
Correct Address
1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

WTF does that mean?

That my donation doesn't count?

EDIT: Or are you just trying to scam us?







some douchebag changed the correct addy in his post, proving yet again that escaping dumb assholes is impossible. 

I'd suggest going to the reddit page and following that link if there is any confusion.

never ceases to amaze me how low a human being can get.  :o


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
satoshi does not need any money, i do. donate to me.

The Satoshi that created Bitcoin doesn't, but this guy Dorian Satoshi does.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 08:22:54 PM
WHAT.....You are taking up a collection for a man that has millions of dollars worth of Bitcoins.  That reminds me of the Big Banks bale out of 2009. Welfare for the rich. ::)

Only because I wasn't crazy enough to purchase an ASIC-based bitcoin miner, that is why I donated. Just wanting to fit it.  ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: iGotSpots on March 07, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Bitcoin to the rescue AGAIN!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 08:23:04 PM
This guy is in his 60's, has had a stroke and looks after his 93 year old mother. His privacy has been invaded and who knows how much stress he is under. I don't think anyone is wasting their coins by donating a few dollars to him.

Andreas - I would suggest trying to get part of the funds already raised to him in the next 3 or 4 days, rather than wait to the end of March.

I'm sure he needs it now, not when the fuss has died down. Let's not collect all this cash and yet keep the guy waiting, so he has to sing for his sushi in the meantime  :-\

+1
End of March is too late.
He needs our support NOW!!!!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 08:24:43 PM

oh, look.

it's the daily donation thread.

for a guy who doesn't care about bitcoin

Dude is a train guy, ergo...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 08:30:17 PM

We're going to hook him up with Google Glass next to enhance his hobby.

http://www.dvice.com/sites/dvice/files/styles/content_panes_media/public/gglglssfldtrip087adfa.jpg?itok=gpnQzGzG


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
However, if this person is not Satoshi, then these funds will serve as a "sorry for what happened to you", help with medical bills his family is facing, any legal bills they may incur, or anything else. Most of all, it serves to soften the damage caused by irresponsible journalism and to demonstrate the generosity and empathy of the community, which I know is huge
Here's how it will work. I will collect donations to a single bitcoin address, posted below, with the following rules:
Donations accepted until the end of March.
At the end of March, donations will be converted to USD and delivered to Dorian Nakamoto.
If the donation is rejected by Dorian, then the funds will go to a charity of his choice
If he doesn't want to choose a charity, funds will be donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Any funds sent after the deadline, will be donated to Dorian at a later date, or a charity of his choice or EFF as above.
After the end of March, I will make my best effort to contact Dorian and deliver the donations in USD. I will document as much of that process as possible to prove the donations were delivered, as long as that documentation does not affect Dorian's privacy.
The blockchain will provide transparency of all funds donated, which will not move from that address until the funds are delivered to the intended recipient based on the rules above.


Donation address:  REDACTED
Check the fundraising progress here: https://blockchain.info/address/ REDACTED
EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN

OK, it's worth giving  :P

You are a scumbag for quoting the wrong donation address.

I think funnynews should be immediately banned.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 07, 2014, 08:39:05 PM
HAHAHA you guys are a bunch of fucking retards. This is obviously a scam and this retard just scammed 18 BTC out of your pockets in the last couple of hours!
The people that donated are probably the same people who kept their BTC on MTGOX. Serves you idiots right that you lost your BTC.
Such idiocity must be punished!!!!!!!

God is punishing us.  He sent us you.
<-----::shakes fist at God::


and please stop posting phony addresses.  I'm not a big fan of going to the mods for deletions, but for a total moronic asshole such as yourself I will make an exception.






And now back to trying to do something decent for a change......


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tvbcof on March 07, 2014, 08:40:54 PM

One would have thought security expert like Antonopolous would have signed the OP with a PGP key or something for a project such as this.  Oh well, go figure...



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 08:41:02 PM
Raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto & his family:

OK, it's worth giving  :P


^^^ This kind of behaviour is further impetus to use Jeff Garzik's bitcoin-based IDs for forum membership.  

If the community feels that the individual is acting in an blatantly unethical way (like swapping the real donation address with a fake), their ID would be banned and they would need to purchase another to re-join the forum.  


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Warren on March 07, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Great initiative! I will be donating a bit closer to the deadline.

He doesn't need the money, but this will allow him to get som cash out that will not be under scrutiny.

He will probably need some help by Andreas to understand what to do with these "Bitcoms"!  ;)  ::)

I love you Satoshi! :)

You remind me of my dad in so many ways! You never wanted this attention, and things have grown in a direction that you probably don't approve of, but just know that you have changed the world and a lot of good people's lives for the better.

You have a beautiful mind and you are an inspiration for humanity!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 08:44:17 PM
OK, it's worth giving  :P

You are a scumbag for quoting the wrong donation address.

I think funnynews should be immediately banned.

Don't quote his incorrect address... :/

AGAIN!

Everyone that has quoted him go back and fix your posts.  Also please report his first post, the one with the incorrect address, to the moderators.  Ask for the post to be deleted and that he be perm banned.

THanks for the PM, BurtW. I wasn't thinking. GOod Call!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 07, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
One would have thought security expert like Antonopolous would have signed the OP with a PGP key or something for a project such as this.  Oh well, go figure...

I don't know of the OP is Andreas, but at least check the entire post.

EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Nope, I'm not Andreas, but I did backtrack the info before I posted this and Andreas is tweeting about it also, as others have noted.

https://twitter.com/aantonop


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitjoint on March 07, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
I think the real Satoshi should donate like 100BTC to Dorian... If he owns like 1MBTC that's just a 0,0001%  ;D

I've already donated myself as well...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 07, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
So did my donation go through or not?

I made a donation to: 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bobsurplus on March 07, 2014, 08:48:07 PM
I think the real Satoshi should donate like 100BTC to Dorian... If he has like 1MBTC that's just a 0,0001  ;D

Dorian is Satoshi. Geez, You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
So did my donation go through or not?

I made a donation to: 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX


Yes, that is the correct address (but readers should always use the address in the original source [reddit and andreas's twitter]). Check out how fast the donations are coming in:

https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
Nope, I'm not Andreas, but I did backtrack the info before I posted this and Andreas is tweeting about it also, as others have noted.
Ah. If you are not Andreas, can you pass on the contents of my post to him? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=505581.msg5575320#msg5575320

I think it's important we get something to Dorian straight away - this is Bitcoin, not Western Union!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitjoint on March 07, 2014, 08:50:14 PM
I think the real Satoshi should donate like 100BTC to Dorian... If he has like 1MBTC that's just a 0,0001  ;D

Dorian is Satoshi. Geez, You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.

We don't have any conclusive evidence yet...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: whtchocla7e on March 07, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
People are so naive...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitcasino on March 07, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
"At the end of March, donations will be converted to USD and delivered to Dorian Nakamoto" :
Why converted in USD? It sounds like bitcoins can not be used in real life or sounds like bitcoin is going to depreciate in value , even disappear...?!!!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 07, 2014, 08:54:53 PM
People are so naive...

I know, right? Believing everything they hear without seeing any real evidence to support it. It's crazy!

Right?  People believe in a big bang and that we evolved from fish without seeing any real evidence too!  Crazy!

Oops.  Wrong thread.   ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bobsurplus on March 07, 2014, 08:55:30 PM
People are so naive...

I know, right? Believing everything they hear without seeing any real evidence to support it. It's crazy!

She's a senior reporter at Newsweek. She spent months chasing the leads. Its him. I'm not naïve, just really grounded.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Warren on March 07, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
I think the real Satoshi should donate like 100BTC to Dorian... If he owns like 1MBTC that's just a 0,0001%  ;D

I've already donated myself as well...

Yes, but he should donate much more! Maybe 10,000BTC or even 100,000BTC or however much Dorian could need for the rest of his life including some for his children.

This is the perfect way for the real Satoshi to help an innocent man (himself) who had his life ruined, whilst still proving to the world that Dorian is not Satoshi...  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 07, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
I think the real Satoshi should donate like 100BTC to Dorian... If he owns like 1MBTC that's just a 0,0001%  ;D

I've already donated myself as well...

Yes, but he should donate much more! Maybe 10,000BTC or even 100,000BTC or however much Dorian could need for the rest of his life including some for his children.

This is the perfect way for the real Satoshi to help an innocent man (himself) who had his life ruined, whilst still proving to the world that Dorian is not Satoshi...  ;D

But if Dorian was Satoshi he could just move coins out of his own wallet into the "dorian" donation wallet.  So it really doesn't prove anything does it?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitjuicy on March 07, 2014, 08:58:42 PM
Thought you all would like to know the fund is over $13K now (20.75 BTC). Read what the press is starting to say at http://bitjuice.com/bitcoin-community-donating-to-help-dorian-nakamoto


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bobsurplus on March 07, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
People are so naive...

I know, right? Believing everything they hear without seeing any real evidence to support it. It's crazy!

She's a senior reporter at Newsweek. She spent months chasing the leads. Its him. I'm not naïve, just really grounded.

Oh! She's a reporter! I didn't know that. Well we all know reporters never lie, so clearly this dude is Satoshi.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

I'm just pointing out that she is no fly by night reporter. Yes, reporters do lie,  but in this case I don't believe that to be a lie.
You guys are forgetting, if its him hes worth nearly 1B USD. Hes got to take precautions before fully coming out.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Warren on March 07, 2014, 09:01:52 PM
I think the real Satoshi should donate like 100BTC to Dorian... If he owns like 1MBTC that's just a 0,0001%  ;D

I've already donated myself as well...

Yes, but he should donate much more! Maybe 10,000BTC or even 100,000BTC or however much Dorian could need for the rest of his life including some for his children.

This is the perfect way for the real Satoshi to help an innocent man (himself) who had his life ruined, whilst still proving to the world that Dorian is not Satoshi...  ;D

But if Dorian was Satoshi he could just move coins out of his own wallet into the "dorian" donation wallet.  So it really doesn't prove anything does it?

Yes, but that's the beauty of it! :)

Satoshi is now able to withdraw some of his huge funds without having to "out himself".

The "real Satoshi" is just helping out a poor old man who had his life ruined by a reckless irresponsible reporter willing to do anything to further her career.  ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: mgio on March 07, 2014, 09:05:32 PM
This is a stupid idea.

If this guy is Satoshi, he has plenty of bitcoins and he's not spending any of them which is because he doesn't care much about money and the last thing he wants is MORE bitcoins. What a waste of $15,000 which will probably sit in his wallet and never get spent.


If he is not Satoshi, it is apparent that he just wants to be left alone and might not even know anything about bitcoin. These donations are just going to draw more attention to him when the inevitable news article is written about it.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Klestin on March 07, 2014, 09:08:12 PM
This is a stupid idea.

If this guy is Satoshi, he has plenty of bitcoins and he's not spending any of them which is because he doesn't care much about money and the last thing he wants is MORE bitcoins. What a waste of $15,000 which will probably sit in his wallet and never get spent.


If he is not Satoshi, it is apparent that he just wants to be left alone and might not even know anything about bitcoin. These donations are just going to draw more attention to him when the inevitable news article is written about it.
May want to actually read the proposal before passing judgement. He will receive the donations in US dollars, not in Bitcoin.  He already has the full attention of the media, and he also has some rather large medical bills.  Maybe let him decide whether to keep or donate the funds?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 07, 2014, 09:09:07 PM
This is a stupid idea.

If this guy is Satoshi, he has plenty of bitcoins and he's not spending any of them which is because he doesn't care much about money and the last thing he wants is MORE bitcoins. What a waste of $15,000 which will probably sit in his wallet and never get spent.


If he is not Satoshi, it is apparent that he just wants to be left alone and might not even know anything about bitcoin. These donations are just going to draw more attention to him when the inevitable news article is written about it.

No.  It is a great idea.  Why?  Dorian isn't Satoshi.  He is a victim of the press.  We have a chance to show that we are "above" the press in making something "wrong" in the world "right" by helping out Dorian.  It shows that Bitcoin can be used for great good in the world.  The press makes it out like all it is used for is kiddie porn and drugs.  So this will help change the world's viewpoint.  Plus he will be getting the funds in USD, as it has already been stated.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 07, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
People are so naive...

I know, right? Believing everything they hear without seeing any real evidence to support it. It's crazy!

She's a senior reporter at Newsweek. She spent months chasing the leads. Its him. I'm not naïve, just really grounded.

Oh! She's a reporter! I didn't know that. Well we all know reporters never lie, so clearly this dude is Satoshi.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

"senior" reporter

lol


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Warren on March 07, 2014, 09:17:33 PM
This is a stupid idea.

If this guy is Satoshi, he has plenty of bitcoins and he's not spending any of them which is because he doesn't care much about money and the last thing he wants is MORE bitcoins.

Satoshi was worried about the attention and scrutiny that he was going to get from governments and media from the moment people started to use Bitcoin for more "dangerous" activities than buying model train sets.

This was his second from last post before leaving the forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2216.msg29280#msg29280

He may have never cashed out any of those coins simply because he didn't want the scrutiny that would come from outing himself as the founder of Bitcoin. He is a private man and just wants to be left alone.

This donation idea is brilliant because it will allow Satoshi the creator to help Dorian Satoshi, the innocent victim without having to ever admit that he was the actual creator of Bitcoin. :)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
Gah, I'm not seeing any replies to my request/suggestion to get cash over to Dorian asap.

As I said this isn't Western Union - this is Bitcoin!

Cash out the BTC collected so far, someone write a cheque and deliver it to his house. Today.

Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)

There is already over $13k - cash out $10k now and get it to him.

It would be more than awesome for bitcoin to say we collect $10k in a few hours and a few hours later it was in his hands.

Isn't that part of the the whole concept of bitcoin?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bobsurplus on March 07, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
People are so naive...

I know, right? Believing everything they hear without seeing any real evidence to support it. It's crazy!

She's a senior reporter at Newsweek. She spent months chasing the leads. Its him. I'm not naïve, just really grounded.

Oh! She's a reporter! I didn't know that. Well we all know reporters never lie, so clearly this dude is Satoshi.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

"senior" reporter

lol

Besides, she's not even a reporter at Newsweek, she's a freelance journalist (according to wikipedia).

 ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 07, 2014, 09:37:07 PM
I think in a few days she will be unemployed


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: leopard2 on March 07, 2014, 09:44:16 PM
he should use the money for sueing the shit out of that idiot journalist  >:(


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: franky1 on March 07, 2014, 09:45:27 PM
Gah, I'm not seeing any replies to my request/suggestion to get cash over to Dorian asap.

As I said this isn't Western Union - this is Bitcoin!

Cash out the BTC collected so far, someone write a cheque and deliver it to his house. Today.

Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)

There is already over $13k - cash out $10k now and get it to him.

It would be more than awesome for bitcoin to say we collect $10k in a few hours and a few hours later it was in his hands.

Isn't that part of the the whole concept of bitcoin?


cut him a cheque?
so why rush to cash out today, then use a banking form of money transmission (the cheque) that takes days to process.
far easier to do a face to face exchange for dollar, then knock on his door


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 09:46:33 PM
ROFL

Yet another money grab scheme?

This people never cease to amaze me of how easy they give it up their money to such schemes.

The news was surely just published to allow yet another "Bitcoin Jesus" to collect money under the disguise of a noble cause.

The Bitcoin user base is becoming a whole pathetic mass of fools ready to provide money to fictional entities.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
The Bitcoin user base is becoming a whole pathetic mass of fools ready to provide money to fictional entities.

Who do you believe is the fictional entity?  Andreas, Dorian, someone else?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: practicaldreamer on March 07, 2014, 09:55:20 PM

The Bitcoin user base is becoming a whole pathetic mass of fools ready to provide money to fictional entities.

LOL - I suppose we could view this as being a positive though - the BTC user base is expanding and so, as a sample of the population from which it is drawn, is more accurately representing that population  :D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
ROFL

Yet another money grab scheme?

This people never cease to amaze me of how easy they give it up their money to such schemes.

The news was surely just published to allow yet another "Bitcoin Jesus" to collect money under the disguise of a noble cause.

The Bitcoin user base is becoming a whole pathetic mass of fools ready to provide money to fictional entities.
This coming from a guy who very readily accepted 2BTC for 10 minutes "work"  ;D

Not so critical when you are on the recieving end?

Why don't you put it to good use and send it to an old, ill man looking after his 93 year old mother?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 7queue on March 07, 2014, 10:02:11 PM
Dang, more model trains for him!

8 )


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: retrend on March 07, 2014, 10:02:59 PM

The news was surely just published to allow yet another "Bitcoin Jesus" to collect money under the disguise of a noble cause.

That would be such an immensely convoluted plan.

Nice work Andreas, good shout, you would have to think this money will more than make up for the trouble Dorian has been caused.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
The Bitcoin user base is becoming a whole pathetic mass of fools ready to provide money to fictional entities.

Who do you believe is the fictional entity?  Andreas, Dorian, someone else?

The Dorian S. Nakamoto which needs to be compensated for the supposedly grief he is undergoing.

At this point the media created a fictional character based on the real character.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 10:11:59 PM
This coming from a guy who very readily accepted 2BTC for 10 minutes "work"  ;D

Not so critical when you are on the recieving end?

Why don't you put it to good use and send it to an old, ill man looking after his 93 year old mother?

Because I have a whole family to look after? Anyway, I am extremely generous but not unwise. I give money to people when I am sure they really need.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
 ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
This coming from a guy who very readily accepted 2BTC for 10 minutes "work"  ;D

Not so critical when you are on the recieving end?

Why don't you put it to good use and send it to an old, ill man looking after his 93 year old mother?

Because I have a whole family to look after? Anyway, I am extremely generous but not unwise. I give money to people when I am sure they really need.
You *don't know* if Dorian needs it or not, so why come here and tell everyone they are fools? That's not extremely generous by any means, it's quite the opposite.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: minimalB on March 07, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
Donation sent!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: MNDan on March 07, 2014, 10:23:24 PM
Sent!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 10:26:39 PM
This coming from a guy who very readily accepted 2BTC for 10 minutes "work"  ;D

Not so critical when you are on the recieving end?

Why don't you put it to good use and send it to an old, ill man looking after his 93 year old mother?

Because I have a whole family to look after? Anyway, I am extremely generous but not unwise. I give money to people when I am sure they really need.
You *don't know* if Dorian needs it or not, so why come here and tell everyone they are fools? That's not extremely generous by any means, it's quite the opposite.

OK, I agree with you. I do not really know if the REAL Dorian S. Nakamoto really needs money for a genuine purpose. However, this is not about the REAL Dorian, but the FICTIONAL Dorian. Do you even know if the news article is addressing the truth of the matter? Based on my life experience I am sure that news articles are never accurate when the underlying purpose is to cause sensationalism. Personally, I do not trust in the news source due the lack of verifiable evidence to support what was claimed.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 07, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
This coming from a guy who very readily accepted 2BTC for 10 minutes "work"  ;D

Not so critical when you are on the recieving end?

Why don't you put it to good use and send it to an old, ill man looking after his 93 year old mother?

Because I have a whole family to look after? Anyway, I am extremely generous but not unwise. I give money to people when I am sure they really need.
You *don't know* if Dorian needs it or not, so why come here and tell everyone they are fools? That's not extremely generous by any means, it's quite the opposite.

Giving Bitcoin to worthy causes that will gain positive press is important if only for selfish reasons as a community.  Put it this way, we are all major "stock" holders in the Bitcoin corporation.  We are not really spending any money on advertising.  The only advertising we have been getting lately is some "great" news like CEO's committing suicide and Mt. Gox going down and so on.  If we can collectively throw a small amount of coin into something that will generate positive press, we are all benefit greatly from that!  Plus we can do a potentially good deed in the process.  It really is a "win/win" situation for us to do these sorts of things.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 10:40:51 PM
Giving Bitcoin to worthy causes that will gain positive press is important if only for selfish reasons as a community.  Put it this way, we are all major "stock" holders in the Bitcoin corporation.  We are not really spending any money on advertising.  The only advertising we have been getting lately is some "great" news like CEO's committing suicide and Mt. Gox going down and so on.  If we can collectively throw a small amount of coin into something that will generate positive press, we are all benefit greatly from that!  Plus we can do a potentially good deed in the process.  It really is a "win/win" situation for us to do these sorts of things

ROFL.

No, you are certainly not "major stock holders in the Bitcoin corporation".

The only winner in this situation is who will end with the collected funds, which is certainly not the people donating neither the REAL Dorian S. Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 10:41:07 PM
This coming from a guy who very readily accepted 2BTC for 10 minutes "work"  ;D

Not so critical when you are on the recieving end?

Why don't you put it to good use and send it to an old, ill man looking after his 93 year old mother?

Because I have a whole family to look after? Anyway, I am extremely generous but not unwise. I give money to people when I am sure they really need.
You *don't know* if Dorian needs it or not, so why come here and tell everyone they are fools? That's not extremely generous by any means, it's quite the opposite.

OK, I agree with you. I do not really know if the REAL Dorian S. Nakamoto really needs money for a genuine purpose. However, this is not about the REAL Dorian, but the FICTIONAL Dorian. Do you even know if the news article is addressing the truth of the matter? Based on my life experience I am sure that news articles are never accurate when the underlying purpose is to cause sensationalism. Personally, I do not trust in the news source due the lack of verifiable evidence to support what was claimed.
All I see is this old guy who is reported to have had a stroke, looks after his 93 year old mother and wants to be left alone but is being hounded by the press. Is that not really the only facts we have?

If he is "bitcoin satoshi", which I personally doubt, he has not cashed out his coins and so is not some eccentric millionaire pretending to be poor.

If he is not "bitcoin satoshi", which I personally feel is more likely (but make up your own mind), he does not seem undeserving of a little help.

That's all. For now, at least give him the benefit of the doubt, rather than putting everyone off helping.

If it's a total scam, no one is going to miss the $10 they donate. If it's not, the money is well spent.

I just hope Andreas/people will consider getting the cash raised over to him quickly - not in 3 weeks time.

Otherwise, it leaves him open to being cornered by some crappy news channel who offer him $10k for his story and he has no choice but to accept  :-\


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 10:43:18 PM
The only winner in this situation is who will end with the collected funds, which is certainly not the people donating neither the REAL Dorian S. Nakamoto.

HOW DO YOU KNOW??

It's being organised by someone most people in the bitcoin community know, so there is no reason to think it will not happen as promised.

You are just being an total ass making this statement  >:(


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: CryptoKilla on March 07, 2014, 10:51:09 PM
Nice job!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 2tights on March 07, 2014, 10:52:56 PM
The only winner in this situation is who will end with the collected funds, which is certainly not the people donating neither the REAL Dorian S. Nakamoto.

HOW DO YOU KNOW??

It's being organised by someone most people in the bitcoin community know, so there is no reason to think it will not happen as promised.

You are just being an total ass making this statement  >:(

The only way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.

On that note, I was glad to toss a few crumbs in on this. Worst case scenario a few dollars are lost, best case an undeserving media pinata gets a bailout. I think it's a fantastic idea, and what great press for the community!!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: runam0k on March 07, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Great move by Andreas A. It might even get him a private chat with the great man himself. ;D

I donated. If he's not Satoshi, the guy deserves a few $. If he is Satoshi, the coins will go to a good cause (I'm assuming the real Satoshi won't accept the coins ;)).


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: subSTRATA on March 07, 2014, 10:55:30 PM
People are so naive...

I know, right? Believing everything they hear without seeing any real evidence to support it. It's crazy!

Right?  People believe in a big bang and that we evolved from fish without seeing any real evidence too!  Crazy!

What you mean with "no evidence we evolved from fish"? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon

Small donation sent, to use phrase received via email some time ago "little cent sent via btc now ok" (Chinese people, I guess)  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ~Coinseeker~ on March 07, 2014, 10:59:23 PM
Donating to the uber rich?   :o  Not much different than corporate welfare.  Shameless pandering at it's finest by Andreas M. Antonopoulos. ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: zetaray on March 07, 2014, 10:59:51 PM
I think Dorian deserves some coins, but I don't have much coins to donate.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: CryptoKilla on March 07, 2014, 11:00:46 PM
WTG Andreas!!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 2tights on March 07, 2014, 11:11:44 PM
I think Dorian deserves some coins, but I don't have much coins to donate.

Glass half empty, eh? Young padawan evolve, you must.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 07, 2014, 11:23:31 PM
One would have thought security expert like Antonopolous would have signed the OP with a PGP key or something for a project such as this.  Oh well, go figure...

I don't know of the OP is Andreas, but at least check the entire post.

EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Nope, I'm not Andreas, but I did backtrack the info before I posted this and Andreas is tweeting about it also, as others have noted.

https://twitter.com/aantonop

Now, I have a serious fucking problem!

I just learnt that you're NOT Andreas, but made the mistake, as many others probably have, that you were, giving the first line of your OP.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.

<snip>


I safely assumed (at least thought so) that since quote tags weren't use, you were indeed Andreas. Hell, I even spend about an hour looking over my posts to see if I've accidently ever crossed you, believing then that you were Andreas, a Bitcoiner I admire.

I'm a little pissed off right now!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: corebob on March 07, 2014, 11:23:56 PM
As I detest garbage journalism I find this fund raising quite clever. Nice move  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 11:24:31 PM
All I see is this old guy who is reported to have had a stroke, looks after his 93 year old mother and wants to be left alone but is being hounded by the press. Is that not really the only facts we have?

What you see is a screen displaying doctored data with the primarily purpose to cause an expected reaction in your mind. You are not seeing the real character in your front, you are seeing the display of your computer where you read what you want to believe. You did not collected and scrutinized the data for yourself, you merely was told what happened.
 
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If he is "bitcoin satoshi", which I personally doubt, he has not cashed out his coins and so is not some eccentric millionaire pretending to be poor.

If he is the Satoshi Nakamoto which developed the original Bitcoin software (and assuming he is also Dorian), then he could care less for his mother. I would certainly use that funds to help my mother. Would you not?

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If he is not "bitcoin satoshi", which I personally feel is more likely (but make up your own mind), he does not seem undeserving of a little help.

Yeah, sure. However, what make you think he was not doing well before his privacy being completely busted? What make you think that ten of thousands of USD will provide him a better situation? Do you think everyone like to share with the whole world their grief? What make you think that money will buy his healthiness? Do you think more publicity from a bunch of deluded people is going to make him and his mother suffer less?

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That's all. For now, at least give him the benefit of the doubt, rather than putting everyone off helping.

Who should have the benefit of the doubt?

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f it's a total scam, no one is going to miss the $10 they donate. If it's not, the money is well spent.

It is not a scam, it is just a money grab scheme.

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I just hope Andreas/people will consider getting the cash raised over to him quickly - not in 3 weeks time.

LoL

Pre-order of donations, brilliant!

That is a traditional way to do business around here!

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Otherwise, it leaves him open to being cornered by some crappy news channel who offer him $10k for his story and he has no choice but to accept  :-\


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BrewCrewFan on March 07, 2014, 11:27:50 PM
To those crying about this, wonder idea here... gtfo then. No one is making you donate. Bitcoin needs anything positive right now it can get.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 11:38:50 PM
All I see is this old guy who is reported to have had a stroke, looks after his 93 year old mother and wants to be left alone but is being hounded by the press. Is that not really the only facts we have?

What you see is a screen displaying doctored data with the primarily purpose to cause an expected reaction in your mind. You are not seeing the real character in your front, you are seeing the display of your computer where you read what you want to believe. You did not collected and scrutinized the data for yourself, you merely was reported what happened.

That's an insult asshole. I saw an old man looking confused and upset, not "displaying doctored data". You are talking complete shit, who do you think you are fooling with this? Your grasp on reality appears to be very thin, stop trolling this thread and look in the mirror. Look deep. Scrutinise yourself for the logic that donations going to you (i.e. your personal "money grab scheme") and your family are totally legit, but to anyone else - it's some false, horrid matrix style illusion of deception. Wake up and stop deluding yourself. And stop trying to delude and get in the way of other people making a free choice to do what they believe is some good in this world.


To those crying about this, wonder idea here... gtfo then. No one is making you donate. Bitcoin needs anything positive right now it can get.
+100 (to the first two sentences)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 11:39:42 PM
To those crying about this, wonder idea here... gtfo then. No one is making you donate. Bitcoin needs anything positive right now it can get.

Yeah, I know, I know. It is all about Bitcoin and not really about to provide what someone really needs. You are not telling me anything new. I am sure there is plenty of people already expecting this media hype will increase the BTC price to inflate their stash and satisfy their greed.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 11:45:23 PM
...

You lovely attitude is putting me in a generous mood.  I think I'll keep donating:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f8d3247cca5f655ea63866396f8b965d38bd051a63480d5f25e0fad64fcbb4b9


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 11:46:35 PM
That's an insult asshole. I saw an old man looking confused and upset, not "displaying doctored data". You are talking complete shit, who do you think you are fooling with this? Your grasp on reality appears to be very thin, stop trolling this thread and look in the mirror. Look deep. Scrutinise yourself for the logic that donations going to you (i.e. your personal "money grab scheme") and your family are totally legit, but to anyone else - it's some false, horrid matrix style illusion of deception. Wake up and stop deluding yourself. And stop trying to delude and get in the way of other people making a free choice to do what they believe is some good in this world.

Yawn...

 :-\

Look like you got emotional, d00d. This shows how easy you can be manipulated by mere words. You are wasting your time trying to lecture me about things I am well versed.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
Yawn...

If you keep this up, I'll do it again:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c3be3587f93d31d0897c11462e9e69e5e627d54e9cdeb93580522c46fe577302


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 07, 2014, 11:50:07 PM
Ahhh, the sweet silence of the ignore button


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 11:51:02 PM
...

You lovely attitude is putting me in a generous mood.  I think I'll keep donating:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f8d3247cca5f655ea63866396f8b965d38bd051a63480d5f25e0fad64fcbb4b9

Just that... Why no more? Come on, d00d! Show us you have the power. Send more, much more. What are you waiting for?

Here is a new challenge: 1,000,000 USD in donations to generate a super hype and create a huge influx of Bitcoin adopters!

Go go go!

To the moon!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on March 07, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
just gave him 5 bones!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 07, 2014, 11:56:01 PM
To the moon!

That's the spirit!  /sarc

This helps the bitcoin community and it's a nice gesture to Dorian.  I don't know why it upsets you so much; no one is forcing you to participate.  





Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 07, 2014, 11:56:14 PM
just gave him 5 bones!


Well done! That is something. Keep it up with the good vibes, even if is just some bones.

Bring it on people, let's bump (this thread) and dump (your money).


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 07, 2014, 11:58:01 PM
Yawn...

If you keep this up, I'll do it again:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c3be3587f93d31d0897c11462e9e69e5e627d54e9cdeb93580522c46fe577302
High five!

Perhaps by your example he'll eventually learn what he called himself - extremely generous - actually means. But then maybe not.

Respect Peter R  :)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: corebob on March 08, 2014, 12:00:56 AM
That's an insult asshole. I saw an old man looking confused and upset, not "displaying doctored data". You are talking complete shit, who do you think you are fooling with this? Your grasp on reality appears to be very thin, stop trolling this thread and look in the mirror. Look deep. Scrutinise yourself for the logic that donations going to you (i.e. your personal "money grab scheme") and your family are totally legit, but to anyone else - it's some false, horrid matrix style illusion of deception. Wake up and stop deluding yourself. And stop trying to delude and get in the way of other people making a free choice to do what they believe is some good in this world.

Yawn...

 :-\

Look like you got emotional, d00d. This shows how easy you can be manipulated by mere words. You are wasting your time trying to lecture me about things I am well versed.

This is nothing to get worked up over. We need bitcoins to move around anyway.

Personally I have no idea who this guy is (certainly not the bitcoin founder) but what I do know is that I can throw this guy a dime from the other side of the planet  :D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 08, 2014, 12:01:29 AM
To the moon!

That's the spirit!  /sarc

This helps the bitcoin community and it's a nice gesture to Dorian.  I don't know why it upsets you so much; no one is forcing you to participate.

d00d, what make you think I am upset? I am really laughing here. You d00ds are my occasional daily joke! If you want send some money, just do it! I am not here to stop you, but merely to advert you in my own way. I am just the messenger, not the message.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 08, 2014, 12:02:32 AM
Personally I have no idea who this guy is (certainly not the bitcoin founder, who has enough btc already) but what I do know is that I can throw this guy a dime from the other side of the planet  :D

That is great, I agree with you. But why not send to him directly?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: corebob on March 08, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
Personally I have no idea who this guy is (certainly not the bitcoin founder, who has enough btc already) but what I do know is that I can throw this guy a dime from the other side of the planet  :D

That is great, I agree with you. But why not send to him directly?

Umm, I thought I did... didn't the address say 1Dorian...?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 08, 2014, 12:05:09 AM
One would have thought security expert like Antonopolous would have signed the OP with a PGP key or something for a project such as this.  Oh well, go figure...

I don't know of the OP is Andreas, but at least check the entire post.

EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Nope, I'm not Andreas, but I did backtrack the info before I posted this and Andreas is tweeting about it also, as others have noted.

https://twitter.com/aantonop

Now, I have a serious fucking problem!

I just learnt that you're NOT Andreas, but made the mistake, as many others probably have, that you were, giving the first line of your OP.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.

<snip>


I safely assumed (at least thought so) that since quote tags weren't use, you were indeed Andreas. Hell, I even spend about an hour looking over my posts to see if I've accidently ever crossed you, believing then that you were Andreas, a Bitcoiner I admire.

I'm a little pissed off right now!




well, I'm sorry.  ::sniffle::

PG you've met me in person.  you are literally the only person on this forum that knows I am NOT AA.

My apologies if I've violated the tenets of internet jibber-jab by not posting a disclaimer or a scan of my passport, but I was certainly not trying to mislead anybody into thinking I was AA.

To make up for it I'll buy you dinner.  Again.   And you can explain how to do this properly next time.   :D



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 08, 2014, 12:05:42 AM
Personally I have no idea who this guy is (certainly not the bitcoin founder, who has enough btc already) but what I do know is that I can throw this guy a dime from the other side of the planet  :D

That is great, I agree with you. But why not send to him directly?

Umm, I thought I did... didn't the address say 1Dorian...?

Yeah, but that is an address controlled by the collector and not the beneficiary of the donation.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: corebob on March 08, 2014, 12:09:10 AM
Personally I have no idea who this guy is (certainly not the bitcoin founder, who has enough btc already) but what I do know is that I can throw this guy a dime from the other side of the planet  :D

That is great, I agree with you. But why not send to him directly?

Umm, I thought I did... didn't the address say 1Dorian...?

Yeah, but that is an address controlled by the collector and not the beneficiary of the donation.

I know, but only AA is nuts enough to come up with something like this, and I expect him to do what he said


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: knight22 on March 08, 2014, 12:13:41 AM
I just donated enough so he can get another free lunch  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: subSTRATA on March 08, 2014, 12:13:56 AM
Yeah, but that is an address controlled by the collector and not the beneficiary of the donation.

Are you suggesting AA will scam fund money? If yes, how come someone with VIP status here don't know yet who is who in Bitcoin community?  ???


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: corebob on March 08, 2014, 12:16:14 AM
Here is a suggestion, as we need bitcoin to move around, why not give the guy a paper backup instead?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 08, 2014, 12:21:09 AM
will folks please stop quoting Mr. Crappo

I, for one, don't want to expose myself to the toxic stupidity.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 08, 2014, 12:22:04 AM
Yeah, but that is an address controlled by the collector and not the beneficiary of the donation.

Are you suggesting AA will scam fund money? If yes, how come someone with VIP status here don't know yet who is who in Bitcoin community?  ???

d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: subSTRATA on March 08, 2014, 12:24:55 AM
Yeah, but that is an address controlled by the collector and not the beneficiary of the donation.

Are you suggesting AA will scam fund money? If yes, how come someone with VIP status here don't know yet who is who in Bitcoin community?  ???

d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.

I'm celebrating here actualy, see why at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361155.msg5578879#msg5578879 another money grab, maybe?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 08, 2014, 12:30:34 AM
Yeah, but that is an address controlled by the collector and not the beneficiary of the donation.

Are you suggesting AA will scam fund money? If yes, how come someone with VIP status here don't know yet who is who in Bitcoin community?  ???

d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.

I'm celebrating here actualy, see why at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361155.msg5578879#msg5578879 another money grab, maybe?

Wow! I am sincerely impressed by the art. If that are real paintings they are well made and is not a money grab scheme. You are going to acquire something real which you are going to appreciate your own eyes. Quite different that just send money to another-yet-Bitcoin-Jesus-pre-order donation-scheme.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: cozk on March 08, 2014, 01:05:27 AM
How did they do to put ''dorian'' in the address ?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 08, 2014, 01:07:01 AM
vanitygen


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: steeev on March 08, 2014, 01:48:03 AM
http://www.listentobitcoin.com is going nuts!  ;D


shouldn't you be using bitlisten.com instead ?

your link leads to a malware site so i'm told...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitlancr on March 08, 2014, 02:15:56 AM
Hi all,

I'm selling "I'm Satoshi Nakamoto" T-shirts in support of this - 50% of profits will go to this fund.

Check out the main thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506269.0



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: zolace on March 08, 2014, 04:28:44 AM
There is no way this Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin. The real Satoshi has great command of the English language. This individual clearly does not. The bitcoin white paper and hundreds of communications by Satoshi contrast profoundly with the poorly written items accredited to this individual. This is an epic Fail


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 08, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
There is no way this Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin. The real Satoshi has great command of the English language. This individual clearly does not. The bitcoin white paper and hundreds of communications by Satoshi contrast profoundly with the poorly written items accredited to this individual. This is an epic Fail

How so?  This old guy got his name dragged through mud by the mainstream, car chased, harassed at his home, and life generally put in danger by this Newsweek revelation.  If that Newsweek article is correct in that "this" Satoshi is in financial and health ruin, why not help a fellow human being in need.

Worst case this shows the humanitarian and fund raising aspect of Bitcoin.  This is a positive thing and paints Bitcoin in a positive light, instead of all the negative news.

This is a win win for the Bitcoin community no matter what.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: xenotrunksx on March 08, 2014, 04:36:54 AM
will folks please stop quoting Mr. Crappo

I, for one, don't want to expose myself to the toxic stupidity.

+1

Donate or don't donate.  Whether or not you agree with the concept of this donation, or even believe its legitimacy. Once you have made your position clear no need to repeat it ad nauseam.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: MNDan on March 08, 2014, 05:03:14 AM
I think it's fun to spend bitcoin on something like this. And I did. Otherwise HODL...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BTCisthefuture on March 08, 2014, 05:04:28 AM
The internet has opened my eyes to how even when positive things are done. People will still find something to complain about or try to turn it into a negative.




Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 08, 2014, 06:13:03 AM
The internet has opened my eyes to how even when positive things are done. People will still find something to complain about or try to turn it into a negative.




only some people


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: vinipoars on March 08, 2014, 07:24:32 AM

Is it just me, or does anyone else see a correlation between blockchain and trains?
(I know I'm over thinking)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Lauda on March 08, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
Already 36 BTC, I'm surprised.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 08, 2014, 11:45:38 AM
Already 36 BTC, I'm surprised.

I am not!!!

I am just glad  :)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: lorix on March 08, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
Already 36 BTC, I'm surprised.

I am not!!!

I am just glad  :)

Up to 38+ now and still rising....

Good moral stance aside, this is excellent positive publicity for Bitcoin that the media will hopefully pick up as a "happily ever after" epilogue to this mess they created in Dorian's life.

While I hope they won't, my only concern is the media responsible for this may try to spin it where they try and take the credit for this outcome. :(


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 08, 2014, 04:43:10 PM
Quote
Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

He did it on purpose!  It was to throw everyone off!  ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: revans on March 08, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
Quote
Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on March 08, 2014, 05:04:26 PM
Quote
Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I'll tell you what is a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

Satoshi went to extreme lengths to conceal his identity. Satoshi is obviously not stupid. Yet, Satoshi apparently used his real name for all communications involving Bitcoin.

Wut? o_O
It's called hiding in plain sight.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on March 08, 2014, 05:08:54 PM
Quote
Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I'll tell you what is a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

Satoshi went to extreme lengths to conceal his identity. Satoshi is obviously not stupid. Yet, Satoshi apparently used his real name for all communications involving Bitcoin.

Wut? o_O
It's called hiding in plain sight.

Uh huh.
What is with the uh uh? However, Dorian has a bit too many coincidences with the creator of Bitcoin(namely working for a cryptographic department in his old job).


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BittBurger on March 08, 2014, 06:32:42 PM

d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.

No.  Its not.   Its far more likely its an "I want to meet Satoshi" scheme.  Andreas doesn't steal Bitcoins from people.  He has a long history of donating.

-B-


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: justusranvier on March 08, 2014, 06:37:41 PM

d00d, it is just a money grab scheme. Relax, chill out. Someone will have several free lunch for a good period of time.

No.  Its not.   Its far more likely its an "I want to meet Satoshi" scheme.  Andreas doesn't steal Bitcoins from people.  He has a long history of donating.

-B-
Andreas is pissed at the news media right now, and part of the reason for this campaign is illuminating and correcting the damage they do.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tvbcof on March 08, 2014, 06:38:05 PM

What is with the uh uh? However, Dorian has a bit too many coincidences with the creator of Bitcoin(namely working for a cryptographic department in his old job).


The existence of coincidences doesn't mean there's evidence he's satoshi, it just means you have a conspiracy theory.


So?  There is no shame in having a theory or hypothesis and testing it.  Or at least it is not shameful to some people.  Quite the opposite to a lot of us.  Maybe the theory is wrong.  Many theories are and there is nothing wrong with that.  The only failure in my opinion is to fail to test a theory sufficiently before either abandoning it or accepting it.

The funny thing is that this is one of the very few theories which really cannot be considered a 'conspiracy' theory.  This because it does not involve more than one person since the suggestion here is that Satoshi/Dorian worked alone without being deceptive in his goals.

People are trained (and very effectively so) to recoil at the words 'conspiracy theory'.  It is designed to be something which abruptly halts analysis since doing so paints the analyst as automatically being a dangerous insane person.

This is much like the training in the U.S. to refer to people of African descent as 'African Americans'.  The training is so strong that you'll hear Africans being called 'African Americans from Africa.'



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: scribed.9 on March 08, 2014, 07:19:11 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
However, if this person is not Satoshi, then these funds will serve as a "sorry for what happened to you", help with medical bills his family is facing, any legal bills they may incur, or anything else. Most of all, it serves to soften the damage caused by irresponsible journalism and to demonstrate the generosity and empathy of the community, which I know is huge
Here's how it will work. I will collect donations to a single bitcoin address, posted below, with the following rules:
Donations accepted until the end of March.
At the end of March, donations will be converted to USD and delivered to Dorian Nakamoto.
If the donation is rejected by Dorian, then the funds will go to a charity of his choice
If he doesn't want to choose a charity, funds will be donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Any funds sent after the deadline, will be donated to Dorian at a later date, or a charity of his choice or EFF as above.
After the end of March, I will make my best effort to contact Dorian and deliver the donations in USD. I will document as much of that process as possible to prove the donations were delivered, as long as that documentation does not affect Dorian's privacy.
The blockchain will provide transparency of all funds donated, which will not move from that address until the funds are delivered to the intended recipient based on the rules above.


Donation address: 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
Check the fundraising progress here: https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Is this anything like www.FindSatoshiNakamoto.com (http://www.FindSatoshiNakamoto.com)?
Are you also planning on investigating who dorian is in reward for giving him the donation?



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: revans on March 08, 2014, 07:24:35 PM
Quote
Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I'll tell you what is a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

Satoshi went to extreme lengths to conceal his identity. Satoshi is obviously not stupid. Yet, Satoshi apparently used his real name for all communications involving Bitcoin.

Wut? o_O


Who said he went to extreme lengths? When all this started he never could have imagined Bitcoin would become so successful, thus his attempts to obfuscate his identity could well have been playful like using a previous name


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Prelude on March 08, 2014, 08:44:18 PM
Good job, Andreas. Donated a bit.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Piotrsama on March 08, 2014, 11:00:25 PM
This guy is in his 60's, has had a stroke and looks after his 93 year old mother. His privacy has been invaded and who knows how much stress he is under. I don't think anyone is wasting their coins by donating a few dollars to him.

Andreas - I would suggest trying to get part of the funds already raised to him in the next 3 or 4 days, rather than wait to the end of March.

I'm sure he needs it now, not when the fuss has died down. Let's not collect all this cash and yet keep the guy waiting, so he has to sing for his sushi in the meantime  :-\
+1


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 08, 2014, 11:02:15 PM
More than halfway to the goal I set of $50K.

I'm still pissed off at Pentax, though. (but I'll get over it, bud)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Waramp22 on March 08, 2014, 11:08:29 PM
41 bitcoin HOLY SHIT.

This is going to be VERY good for the bitcoin communities reputation once it hits the news. (providing the media portrays it correctly)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay on March 08, 2014, 11:20:38 PM
Quote
Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I have had the same impression.

And even more difficult to believe was that he has problems with speaking and understanding English - asking for Japanese-speaking reporter, talking in Japanese that he does not speak English ... This guy became US citizen around 1973, he went to college in US, have been living here for 40+ years ... His spoken English seemed completely fine, and his vocabulary broad and sophisticated

I am pretty sure that he pretended not to know English well. Of course, it does not mean that he is Satoshi. He may simply think that journalists would leave him alone faster that way ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Peter R on March 08, 2014, 11:37:14 PM
Andreas - I would suggest trying to get part of the funds already raised to him in the next 3 or 4 days, rather than wait to the end of March.

I'm sure he needs it now, not when the fuss has died down. Let's not collect all this cash and yet keep the guy waiting, so he has to sing for his sushi in the meantime  :-\
+1

The 1 month period was chosen for a reason.  The Dorian story has played out with near scripted perfection, and I think bitcoin may have more up its sleeve with this chapter too. 


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Beans on March 09, 2014, 02:58:39 AM
Nice work guys. That's a lot of free lunches.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 09, 2014, 06:49:25 AM
Hadn't moved much since the last time I was here earlier today: $26,141.49.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 09, 2014, 06:51:29 AM
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but I believe the perfect candidate to express to Darian what this cause is all about is that Asian AP reporter, probably a guy he may trust.

What do you think, Andreas?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Neuerung on March 09, 2014, 07:46:20 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
....

If Dorian is indeed Satoshi (which I believe), the funds (now collecting) could still make much of a difference. If Dorian worked for the government and created bitcoin for them (or he worked in a Government-group that created bitcoin), then the results from early mining would belong to the government (his employer) and he had never access to the resulting money of early mining...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on March 09, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
looks like people have been also donating to address removed


where is the substantiation that this is a legit address for this cause?

There have been a few cases of people posting false addresses in this thread, which sucks, but that's people.



People looking to donate should probably stick with the reddit post/link in the first post of this thread and follow that back through the stuff Andreas himself posted to that reddit post and/or his twitter account https://twitter.com/aantonop to make sure they're not getting ripped off.




See this post from Andreas' twitter feed on Mar 7

"The fundraising address for Dorian, contains the word “Dorian" and is signed by my PGP key. NO OTHER ADDRESSES.
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN
  "


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 09, 2014, 11:39:05 AM
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but I believe the perfect candidate to express to Darian what this cause is all about is that Asian AP reporter, probably a guy he may trust.

What do you think, Andreas?

I've already suggested that.

Gah, I'm not seeing any replies to my request/suggestion to get cash over to Dorian asap.

As I said this isn't Western Union - this is Bitcoin!

Cash out the BTC collected so far, someone write a cheque and deliver it to his house. Today.

Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)

There is already over $13k - cash out $10k now and get it to him.

It would be more than awesome for bitcoin to say we collect $10k in a few hours and a few hours later it was in his hands.

Isn't that part of the the whole concept of bitcoin?


It makes no sense to wait a month! If the guy is short of cash - and it's seems very likely if he had a stroke and is unable to work and looks after his mother - where would money come from?

I've also mentioned how not helping him straight away leaves him open to the mercy of journalists and news channels who will offer him big sums to grill him  :-\

I just hope Andreas/people will consider getting the cash raised over to him quickly - not in 3 weeks time.

Otherwise, it leaves him open to being cornered by some crappy news channel who offer him $10k for his story and he has no choice but to accept  :-\

Come on - let get this "instant" payment concept working! He could be starving in his house as we speak - anyone with direct contact to Andreas please tell him to do something straight away with the funds collected so far.

It's embarrassing this transaction is going to take 3 weeks to go through! Six people confirm the sentiment of this message that it should go straight away and let's send the funds to Dorian now!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 09, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but I believe the perfect candidate to express to Darian what this cause is all about is that Asian AP reporter, probably a guy he may trust.

What do you think, Andreas?

I've already suggested that.

Gah, I'm not seeing any replies to my request/suggestion to get cash over to Dorian asap.

As I said this isn't Western Union - this is Bitcoin!

Cash out the BTC collected so far, someone write a cheque and deliver it to his house. Today.

Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)

There is already over $13k - cash out $10k now and get it to him.

It would be more than awesome for bitcoin to say we collect $10k in a few hours and a few hours later it was in his hands.

Isn't that part of the the whole concept of bitcoin?


It makes no sense to wait a month! If the guy is short of cash - and it's seems very likely if he had a stroke and is unable to work and looks after his mother - where would money come from?

I've also mentioned how not helping him straight away leaves him open to the mercy of journalists and news channels who will offer him big sums to grill him  :-\

I just hope Andreas/people will consider getting the cash raised over to him quickly - not in 3 weeks time.

Otherwise, it leaves him open to being cornered by some crappy news channel who offer him $10k for his story and he has no choice but to accept  :-\

Come on - let get this "instant" payment concept working! He could be starving in his house as we speak - anyone with direct contact to Andreas please tell him to do something straight away with the funds collected so far.

It's embarrassing this transaction is going to take 3 weeks to go through! Six people confirm the sentiment of this message that it should go straight away and let's send the funds to Dorian now!

+1
Somebody should bring this to Andrea's attention.
He can easily sent around $10K now and the rest later. But Dorian needs help now.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 09, 2014, 12:20:33 PM
A bit slower than 10 minutes  ;) but:

Confirmed (1 confirmation)


5 more and the blockchain has spoken!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitcasino on March 09, 2014, 12:23:25 PM
I am amazed by the generosity in the bitcoin community,
+1


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 09, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
I am amazed by the generosity in the bitcoin community,
+1
Confirmed (2 confirmations)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: wheatstone on March 09, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
What is with the uh uh? However, Dorian has a bit too many coincidences with the creator of Bitcoin(namely working for a cryptographic department in his old job).

This is a bit like selection bias, taken to the extreme.

If you take a bunch of facts and search for anyone who matches exactly those facts, that's perfectly valid. The problem comes when you THEN assert that "well, it must be true because all those facts match and the odds of that are astronomical".

Well, "duh", you just searched for people who matched those facts.

It's like if you want to find a guy with a birthday on April 1 and red hair. Grabbing from your huge database-of-all-people, you find one and state that this must be the guy, 'cause what are the odds that it isn't considering his birthday matches (1/365th of a chance, roughly), his sex matches (50% chance, roughly), AND he even has red hair (0.5% (USA), according to google). Well, golly, that must mean the odds of it not being him are something like 7 in 1 million!

You are, of course, not doing the actual math, but the arguments supporting the claim are the same.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Klestin on March 09, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
This is a bit like selection bias, taken to the extreme.

If you take a bunch of facts and search for anyone who matches exactly those facts, that's perfectly valid. The problem comes when you THEN assert that "well, it must be true because all those facts match and the odds of that are astronomical".

Well, "duh", you just searched for people who matched those facts.

Exactly this.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Ytterbium on March 09, 2014, 06:08:15 PM
His brother posted in the bitcoin subreddit.  He'd probably be a good contact person for getting the funds to Dorian.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: hyunsookmom on March 09, 2014, 06:18:22 PM
His brother posted in the bitcoin subreddit.  He'd probably be a good contact person for getting the funds to Dorian.


His brother who called him an asshole in the media? maybe not...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jojo69 on March 09, 2014, 06:19:28 PM
His brother posted in the bitcoin subreddit.  He'd probably be a good contact person for getting the funds to Dorian.


His brother who called him an asshole in the media? maybe not...

yeah, I was gonna say


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 09, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
He was interviewed by Ryan Nakashima from AP (> http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-man-said-create-bitcoin-denies-054716404--finance.html), so it should be pretty easy for Andreas (or whomever from the bitcoin community wants to take charge of that job) to get in contact with Ryan, someone Dorian is at least familiar with and has some level of trust.

I feel like I'm out here on my own wanting to get even a percentage of what's been raised over to Dorian asap. If he'll accept a free lunch, I'm sure he'd have no choice to accept if some media scum offered him $10k for his story.

But I guess from the lack of support of my idea, you are all happy to see Dorian hauled over the coals by Bill O'Reilly or some other asshole. Good work instant global payment community.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: E.exchanger on March 09, 2014, 09:13:50 PM
Awesome just checked the wallet address and the number of btc received  :o it should hit the news  ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 09, 2014, 09:42:58 PM
Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)
The AP reporter I quoted is Ryan Nakashima, the one who interviewed Mr. Nakamoto over sushi.

Dunno how to contact him, the AP is colossal, but he might be able to publicize this correctly. His article is full of subtle jabs at Newsweek, and his persuasive ability really shines in the selection and order of his quotations.

What if some mediocre journalist looking for a "scoop" inflicted this on you?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140307074429-dorian-nakamoto-bitcoin-620xa.jpg

Image source to mitigate conspiracy theories: CNN, reporters tail private citizen in illegal car chase, harass him all day (http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/06/technology/bitcoin-car-chase/)

I DARE YOU!!!


to turn this picture into Neo (from Matrix) saying no to bullets (at the end of the first part)....

I can do it myself but I don't have the time to do it now.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 09, 2014, 10:33:49 PM
Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)
The AP reporter I quoted is Ryan Nakashima, the one who interviewed Mr. Nakamoto over sushi.

Dunno how to contact him, the AP is colossal, but he might be able to publicize this correctly. His article is full of subtle jabs at Newsweek, and his persuasive ability really shines in the selection and order of his quotations.

What if some mediocre journalist looking for a "scoop" inflicted this on you?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140307074429-dorian-nakamoto-bitcoin-620xa.jpg

Image source to mitigate conspiracy theories: CNN, reporters tail private citizen in illegal car chase, harass him all day (http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/06/technology/bitcoin-car-chase/)

I DARE YOU!!!


to turn this picture into Neo (from Matrix) saying no to bullets (at the end of the first part)....

I can do it myself but I don't have the time to do it now.

Only instead of stopping bullets, have him stopping dollar bills or something... ;)

Go for broke!

Turn DELUCA into DRACULA.

The yellow irises into red opium flowers as seen on some Photobucket page.

The peace symbol tie-dyed shirt needs to be altered.

Dorian is donning a model steam engine train motif belt buckle.

The mail truck is an Overstock.com delivery van.

Place an alpaca in the bushes, or have it grazing on the lawn.

I just noticed something about this image, as well as the others. Why are there so many Japanese/Asian reporters?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 09, 2014, 11:07:53 PM
Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help :)
The AP reporter I quoted is Ryan Nakashima, the one who interviewed Mr. Nakamoto over sushi.

Dunno how to contact him, the AP is colossal, but he might be able to publicize this correctly. His article is full of subtle jabs at Newsweek, and his persuasive ability really shines in the selection and order of his quotations.

What if some mediocre journalist looking for a "scoop" inflicted this on you?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140307074429-dorian-nakamoto-bitcoin-620xa.jpg

Image source to mitigate conspiracy theories: CNN, reporters tail private citizen in illegal car chase, harass him all day (http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/06/technology/bitcoin-car-chase/)

I DARE YOU!!!


to turn this picture into Neo (from Matrix) saying no to bullets (at the end of the first part)....

I can do it myself but I don't have the time to do it now.

Only instead of stopping bullets, have him stopping dollar bills or something... ;)

Go for broke!

Turn DELUCA into DRACULA.

The yellow irises into red opium flowers as seen on some Photobucket page.

The peace symbol tie-dyed shirt needs to be altered.

Dorian is donning a model steam engine train motif belt buckle.

The mail truck is an Overstock.com delivery van.

Place an alpaca in the bushes, or have it grazing on the lawn.

I just noticed something about this image, as well as the others. Why are there so many Japanese/Asian reporters?

Because he is the Asian MC Hammer... Can't touch this.....


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 09, 2014, 11:21:56 PM
Poor Mr Nakamoto, lost his privacy because the delusion of some nerds. Looking at the above photo it becomes obvious he is being harassed for no genuine reason at all. Some people put their selfish purposes above the essential respect they should have for others. At this point I feel embarrassed to be associated with this community.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 600watt on March 09, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
Poor Mr Nakamoto, lost his privacy because the delusion of some nerds. Looking at the above photo it becomes obvious he is being harassed for no genuine reason at all. Some people put their selfish purposes above the essential respect they should have for others. At this point I feel embarrassed to be associated with this community.


major german newspaper says that newsweek may have pulled the biggest and most embarrassing mistake in their 81 year long history.

http://www.zeit.de/digital/2014-03/bitcoin-gruender-internet-waehrung-medien/seite-2


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: vinipoars on March 10, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
His brother posted in the bitcoin subreddit.  He'd probably be a good contact person for getting the funds to Dorian.


His brother who called him an asshole in the media? maybe not...

yeah, I was gonna say

I don't think it was actually his brother who posted there.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Omega0255 on March 18, 2014, 02:55:28 PM
Bump


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 18, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
92.88 coins in his account as of this morning.  That is impressive.  Now hopefully the price rises for BTC before the end of March and the value will increase for that donation as well.

I am glad that the BTC community pulled together to help this guy out!

Edit:  I guess the 92.88 was wrong or unconfirmed.  It is back to 46.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: FeedbackLoop on March 18, 2014, 03:33:57 PM

Please give the man the choice of holding at least some of it in actual bitcoins, even if with help from one or multiple third parties.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on March 18, 2014, 03:58:38 PM

Please give the man the choice of holding at least some of it in actual bitcoins, even if with help from one of multiple third parties.



Yes.  That would be great too.  Of course he could always set up his own wallet and transfer the cash into BTC if he really wanted to, but it would be better for tax purposes for him to get coins directly.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on March 18, 2014, 04:03:18 PM
I'm just happy that Dorian has received twice the amount of BTC that Wales have received.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: grosminer on March 18, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Awesome just checked the wallet address and the number of btc received  :o it should hit the news  ;)

It's gonna hit the news if they ever send it to him..??


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: remotemass on March 18, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
I don't think Newsweek did any irresponsible journalism.
Journalism needs to instigate curiosity, research, quest, inquiry...
Journalism is to help people know more about the world.
If it helps in that it is probably good journalism, even when people that don't like it for some particular reason say it is irresponsible.
Did you study journalism, Andreas? I think you should read some books and study it a bit more in order to make these kind of frivolous accusations. A bit of 'journalism deontology' won't hurt. Have you read any book about journalism, at all?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 18, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
I don't think Newsweek did any irresponsible journalism.
Journalism needs to instigate curiosity, research, quest, inquiry...
Journalism is to help people know more about the world.
If it helps in that it is probably good journalism, even when people that don't like it for some particular reason say it is irresponsible.
Did you study journalism, Andreas? I think you should read some books and study it a bit more in order to make these kind of frivolous accusations. A bit of 'journalism deontology' won't hurt. Have you read any book about journalism, at all?

Did you read any books about human rights?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: remotemass on March 18, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
I don't think Newsweek did any irresponsible journalism.
Journalism needs to instigate curiosity, research, quest, inquiry...
Journalism is to help people know more about the world.
If it helps in that it is probably good journalism, even when people that don't like it for some particular reason say it is irresponsible.
Did you study journalism, Andreas? I think you should read some books and study it a bit more in order to make these kind of frivolous accusations. A bit of 'journalism deontology' won't hurt. Have you read any book about journalism, at all?

Did you read any books about human rights?


Yes. I have read Bertrand Russell and Peter Singer, to name a few authors.
Still, I don't see any irresponsible journalism here. I'm sorry you don't seem to like journalism. I do like it very much.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 18, 2014, 07:10:22 PM
I don't think Newsweek did any irresponsible journalism.
Journalism needs to instigate curiosity, research, quest, inquiry...
Journalism is to help people know more about the world.
If it helps in that it is probably good journalism, even when people that don't like it for some particular reason say it is irresponsible.
Did you study journalism, Andreas? I think you should read some books and study it a bit more in order to make these kind of frivolous accusations. A bit of 'journalism deontology' won't hurt. Have you read any book about journalism, at all?

Did you read any books about human rights?


Yes. I have read Bertrand Russell and Peter Singer, to name a few authors.
Still, I don't see any irresponsible journalism here. I'm sorry you don't seem to like journalism. I do like it very much.

So you find the fact the they have posted personal details about Dorian and his family proper journalism?
Because I can tell you from now that the press and POLICE is protecting real criminals personal information from getting out.

Once again: Is this proper journalism?
Regarding the fact the the journalist had nothing but speculations?

 


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: remotemass on March 18, 2014, 07:22:54 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 18, 2014, 07:37:12 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.

Know more of what it's true yes. I agree with you on that.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 600watt on March 18, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 2tights on March 18, 2014, 10:16:31 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.

I love conspiracy theories. Mine is that this whole thing was cooked up by someone in the IC to draw Satoshi out of hiding, which seems to have worked since he logged into his P2P account.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 18, 2014, 10:39:18 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.

I love conspiracy theories. Mine is that this whole thing was cooked up by someone in the IC to draw Satoshi out of hiding, which seems to have worked since he logged into his P2P account.

He didn't.
He didn't sign his msg.

It was probably a BTC supporter with some skills.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 2tights on March 19, 2014, 02:44:35 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.

I love conspiracy theories. Mine is that this whole thing was cooked up by someone in the IC to draw Satoshi out of hiding, which seems to have worked since he logged into his P2P account.

He didn't.
He didn't sign his msg.

It was probably a BTC supporter with some skills.


Well, your probably isn't really any better than my probably. We're all just guessing. Do you think there we'll ever figure it out?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: professorXY on March 19, 2014, 02:49:57 PM
I think it would me more "sorry" donation than 'thanks'! Btw if he is true Satoshi he has a lot of coins and no need in another ones a lot .
For some reasons I think he is not Satoshi , just a guy who had got into troubles cause of mass media and wish donation would make it less difficult to continue his normal life


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: reactor on March 19, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
I don't think Newsweek did any irresponsible journalism.
Journalism needs to instigate curiosity, research, quest, inquiry...
Journalism is to help people know more about the world.
If it helps in that it is probably good journalism, even when people that don't like it for some particular reason say it is irresponsible.
Did you study journalism, Andreas? I think you should read some books and study it a bit more in order to make these kind of frivolous accusations. A bit of 'journalism deontology' won't hurt. Have you read any book about journalism, at all?

Did you read any books about human rights?


Look at mass media in the "first world" (you know, the one obsessed with sports, glamour, Hollywood, etc.), this is far from a violation of human rights.  Irresponsible for releasing personal details, yes, but if you want to start throwing the phrase "human rights" around don't use it for such a petty and small thing.  There is a big world out there outside of Bitcoin and it is solving none of the bigger problems in the world (all money is corrupt, be it crypto or fiat), just pointing out issues in the already established systems.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 19, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.

I love conspiracy theories. Mine is that this whole thing was cooked up by someone in the IC to draw Satoshi out of hiding, which seems to have worked since he logged into his P2P account.

He didn't.
He didn't sign his msg.

It was probably a BTC supporter with some skills.


Well, your probably isn't really any better than my probably. We're all just guessing. Do you think there we'll ever figure it out?


Nope.
The real Satoshi will never be found unless he/she/they decide to step up.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 2tights on March 19, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.

I love conspiracy theories. Mine is that this whole thing was cooked up by someone in the IC to draw Satoshi out of hiding, which seems to have worked since he logged into his P2P account.

He didn't.
He didn't sign his msg.

It was probably a BTC supporter with some skills.


Well, your probably isn't really any better than my probably. We're all just guessing. Do you think there we'll ever figure it out?


Nope.
The real Satoshi will never be found unless he/she/they decide to step up.


I hope you are correct. I think discovery would only be a negative..


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on March 19, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.


this story was the greatest embarrassment in 81 years of newsweek. when there is a quest for a hidden person and a journalist comes up with such a thin story dragging out the wrong guy to the world public it is the opposite of "good journalism"

they could have at least asked "is this the real satoshi ?" instead they pretended they had something, but they had nothing.

I love conspiracy theories. Mine is that this whole thing was cooked up by someone in the IC to draw Satoshi out of hiding, which seems to have worked since he logged into his P2P account.

He didn't.
He didn't sign his msg.

It was probably a BTC supporter with some skills.


Well, your probably isn't really any better than my probably. We're all just guessing. Do you think there we'll ever figure it out?


Nope.
The real Satoshi will never be found unless he/she/they decide to step up.


I hope you are correct. I think discovery would only be a negative..

If he/she/they was careful not to give any personal info to begin with then he/she/they know how to keep things private.
Besides he/she/they invented Bitcoin ;)
It takes a lot of brains to do that ;)



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: yefi on March 19, 2014, 10:16:29 PM
I think that if it helps people know more it is good journalism.

I also think school is good if it helps people know more. That's why I irradiated the classroom assistants with Pu to demonstrate radiation poisoning, and shot some of the lesser students out of a cannon to demonstrate F=ma. It helps the kids learn, so this is good teaching.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 20, 2014, 08:27:28 PM
Man, I've been begging on this thread to get the donations that have been raised to Dorian asap, not to wait until the end of March.

There is now a statement from Dorian:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520968.0

which says he had to cut off his internet connection due to "severe financial distress".

Can we get on with this NOW please? You know, instant money transfer we proport to be? He's could do with the money NOW, not in two weeks time, as I've been saying all along  >:(


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 21, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
Man, I've been begging on this thread to get the donations that have been raised to Dorian asap, not to wait until the end of March.

There is now a statement from Dorian:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520968.0

which says he had to cut off his internet connection due to "severe financial distress".

Can we get on with this NOW please? You know, instant money transfer we proport to be? He's could do with the money NOW, not in two weeks time, as I've been saying all along  >:(

Hurry up, guys! Do not leave the harassment for later. Let's force the man right now to accept this Internet money we gathered!

Go go go.

He is cutting all ties from our virtual world of Bitcoin.

LOL


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on March 21, 2014, 10:29:04 PM
46,8 BTC - WOW  :o


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BCmale on March 22, 2014, 11:55:52 PM
I just donated 0.01 BTC. I hope the guy gets some peace of mind.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 23, 2014, 03:53:55 AM
Do you people ever think sometimes that Internet money cannot buy all things in life, which includes "peace of mind" or "privacy"?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 23, 2014, 06:59:31 AM
Man, I've been begging on this thread to get the donations that have been raised to Dorian asap, not to wait until the end of March.

There is now a statement from Dorian:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520968.0

which says he had to cut off his internet connection due to "severe financial distress".

Can we get on with this NOW please? You know, instant money transfer we proport to be? He's could do with the money NOW, not in two weeks time, as I've been saying all along  >:(

I heard a rumor that they're turning off his water and sewer too.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on March 24, 2014, 10:55:21 PM
Do you people ever think sometimes that Internet money cannot buy all things in life, which includes "peace of mind" or "privacy"?


Yes, if you have enough of that funny internet money.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: sbfree on March 26, 2014, 07:28:20 AM
Another Bitcoin founder could use our help....http://redd.it/21eajg

not too sure about how real this is although it did show up on the front page of forbes.

ps. followed it to one of satoshi's wallets it looks like. If he still has wallet access, then this would be a good thing.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on March 27, 2014, 03:52:38 AM
looking forward to the funds being delivered, that would be the 1st of April approx? Antoppolos is on vacation right now?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bitcoinpro on March 27, 2014, 04:05:51 AM
I never realized Dorian played Mario Party ?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Chang Hum on March 29, 2014, 02:05:17 PM
On the one hand this could give positive media attention to bitcoin. On the other hand it might be the case Dorean would prefer to be left alone than to be the medium through which positive media attention to bitcoin is channeled.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on March 30, 2014, 03:20:14 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
However, if this person is not Satoshi, then these funds will serve as a "sorry for what happened to you", help with medical bills his family is facing, any legal bills they may incur, or anything else. Most of all, it serves to soften the damage caused by irresponsible journalism and to demonstrate the generosity and empathy of the community, which I know is huge
Here's how it will work. I will collect donations to a single bitcoin address, posted below, with the following rules:
Donations accepted until the end of March.
At the end of March, donations will be converted to USD and delivered to Dorian Nakamoto.
If the donation is rejected by Dorian, then the funds will go to a charity of his choice
If he doesn't want to choose a charity, funds will be donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation
Any funds sent after the deadline, will be donated to Dorian at a later date, or a charity of his choice or EFF as above.
After the end of March, I will make my best effort to contact Dorian and deliver the donations in USD. I will document as much of that process as possible to prove the donations were delivered, as long as that documentation does not affect Dorian's privacy.
The blockchain will provide transparency of all funds donated, which will not move from that address until the funds are delivered to the intended recipient based on the rules above.


Donation address: 1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
Check the fundraising progress here: https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX
EDIT: Find the donation address and the terms, signed by my PGP key, at the pastebin below
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on March 31, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
So, will there be some kind of ceremony or delivery that the community can oversee and celebrate? When will Dorian get the funds?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: waldox on March 31, 2014, 05:46:15 PM
there should be  a news press conference

more positive news for bitcoin = better


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 31, 2014, 10:03:58 PM
So what's happening? Is Dorian getting his BTC on April Fool's Day?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on March 31, 2014, 10:06:41 PM
So what's happening? Is Dorian getting his BTC on April Fool's Day?

he better, i gave him my 0.00277016BTC so he can get his free Duncan coffee

https://blockchain.info/address/1FN62hw74HWjNWzbsfubxvnYhiYrFJNcb8


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on March 31, 2014, 10:13:55 PM
Dorian ready to harvest his fundraised BTC!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkEXj6BCQAEYMpL.jpg

Stolen from here: https://twitter.com/russiacoin/status/450667343337635842

Let's hope he actually accepts it


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 01, 2014, 12:46:38 AM
So all you want is the press to cover the event? That means, for you what matters is the Bitcoin being exposed, even if the consequences is more invasion of the privacy of someone already stressed by the invasion of privacy of the press?

Did I got this right, that your delusional fanaticism for some spare digits is more important that respect the privacy of a person?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on April 01, 2014, 08:07:19 AM
Did I got this right, that your delusional fanaticism for some spare digits is more important that respect the privacy of a person?

Well, the coins needs to be handed over somehow. Would it not be enough with Andreas handing it over and making a short film about the transaction and releasing it? It needs not be a press event.

I'm sure Dorian can put the money to good use. Perhaps a new model train!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Nemo1024 on April 01, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
As one of those, who donated, I am curious as to how Andreas will proceed from here. On one hand I understand the need for privacy, after all that's what the donation was all about, on the other hand it needs to be documented for the benefit of the community, which is very weary of scams.

I hope to at least see some activity on Reddit (last activity there 24 days ago), and some publicly verifiable transaction details, showing who becomes the recipient of the money (it might be a charity, if Dorian refuses to accept).

Video or media publicity stunts are definitely not called for.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on April 01, 2014, 09:49:30 AM
As one of those, who donated, I am curious as to how Andreas will proceed from here. On one hand I understand the need for privacy, after all that's what the donation was all about, on the other hand it needs to be documented for the benefit of the community, which is very weary of scams.

I hope to at least see some activity on Reddit (last activity there 24 days ago), and some publicly verifiable transaction details, showing who becomes the recipient of the money (it might be a charity, if Dorian refuses to accept).

Video or media publicity stunts are definitely not called for.
It's now April and looks like everyone has forgotten about this.

I did suggest a number of times to get the money over to him the first week of March, rather than wait until now. If they did, it was worth about $3-5000 more than it is now!

Supposedly Dorian has hired a lawyer:
http://news.yahoo.com/nakamoto-hires-lawyer-newsweek-bitcoin-fight-172016289--finance.html

How can a man who had to get his internet disconnected because of financial strain afford that??!! And we couldn't help him out earlier??

It's so lame that the supposedly "instant payment" bitcom spent weeks dicking around, just like some lame ass traditional bank.

What will be the next lame move? Some asshole turns up at his house and gives him a USB key with the BTC wallet on it, which he can't use.

It's a poor showing from bitcom. Andreas better get his act together, contact the AP reporter who interviewed Dorian (Ryan Nakashima?) and make headway to getting the money collected over to Dorian fast and in a format he can use.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: runam0k on April 01, 2014, 02:50:39 PM
How can a man who had to get his internet disconnected because of financial strain afford that??!! And we couldn't help him out earlier??
No win, no fee.

Re Bitcoin price, hindsight is a wonderful thing.



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: retrend on April 01, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
What is the delay in getting the man his money?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 01, 2014, 03:06:19 PM
I, too, am curious to see what's going on with this fundraiser.

Will this amount of BTC ever touch Dorian's hands?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on April 01, 2014, 03:33:55 PM
I, too, am curious to see what's going on with this fundraiser.

Will this amount of BTC ever touch Dorian's hands?

Andreas Antonopolous is planning on meeting Dorian in person when he is available to do so:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/03/31/bitcoin-philanthropists-raise-21000-for-dorian-satoshi-nakamoto/


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 01, 2014, 04:15:12 PM
Dorian ready to harvest his fundraised BTC!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkEXj6BCQAEYMpL.jpg

Stolen from here: https://twitter.com/russiacoin/status/450667343337635842

Let's hope he actually accepts it

Pretty good job, but you forgot one thing: 2BG2PAIL. I'll leave it you to figure out where to paste it.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on April 01, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Guys Hal Finney needs our support as well:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=552875.0



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 01, 2014, 08:59:16 PM
Quote
“I will be completing the pledged delivery of funds at some point in April,” he continued. “The exact details will remain confidential to protect the privacy of Mr. Dorian Nakamoto. For security reasons, I plan to meet in person to ensure that I am delivering the funds to the right person, as pledged during the fundraiser. I have been impressed by the generosity of the community and I hope that these funds will somewhat compensate for the egregious violation of his privacy due to the irresponsible and poorly researched article by Newsweek, a tabloid rag serving to demonstrate the sad decline of serious journalism in this country.”

So from "at the end of March" to "at some point in April". Look like the pre-order money grab scheme is working flawless.

LoL


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on April 01, 2014, 09:13:04 PM
Quote
“I will be completing the pledged delivery of funds at some point in April,” he continued. “The exact details will remain confidential to protect the privacy of Mr. Dorian Nakamoto. For security reasons, I plan to meet in person to ensure that I am delivering the funds to the right person, as pledged during the fundraiser. I have been impressed by the generosity of the community and I hope that these funds will somewhat compensate for the egregious violation of his privacy due to the irresponsible and poorly researched article by Newsweek, a tabloid rag serving to demonstrate the sad decline of serious journalism in this country.”

So from "at the end of March" to "at some point in April". Look like the pre-order money grab scheme is working flawless.

LoL

By mid April the price might be $600 or more so maybe it is a good idea for Andreas to take another week or two.

Andreas is a busy guy anyways so I don't really blame him.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on April 01, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Andreas Antonopolous is planning on meeting Dorian in person when he is available to do so:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/03/31/bitcoin-philanthropists-raise-21000-for-dorian-satoshi-nakamoto/
If Andreas is going to meet Dorian in person, that's cool.

Actually, it's a shrewd move to not give an exact date, in case it causes more media attention.

And hopefully the beatings will continue until Newsweek improves  ;D

http://crypto-comics.com/comic9.png


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 02, 2014, 01:54:21 AM
By mid April the price might be $600 or more so maybe it is a good idea for Andreas to take another week or two.

Andreas is a busy guy anyways so I don't really blame him.

Yeah, he must be busy planning the next excuse to keep the money collected near him.

LoL

It is quite likely the price will not rise in the near future. The demand for Bitcoin is obviously decreasing. Nobody in his sane mind will invest in a market based on fraud, theft and money grab schemes. That is what Bitcoin market became.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Bitram on April 02, 2014, 02:42:25 PM
Looks nice for me.

Some things are just too hard to find in google.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on April 05, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
If Andreas don't deliver, then there's 'no hope' left for bitcoin. He does certainly not appear as a scammer.

He appears to genuinely believe in the technology and to care about other people, and making big personal sacrifices for the good of Bitcoin.

Interesting to learn how this turns out.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: gentlemand on April 05, 2014, 01:00:24 PM
Mr A has publicly stated that he's off the grid for a week in early April.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: bitcoinforhelp on April 05, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
community showed support, great thing :) happy to be part of it


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 05, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
community showed support, great thing :) happy to be part of it

Do you feel proud to be part of a pre-order money grab scheme? I am start to think this money will be never donated to Mr Nakamoto. Greed has corrupted most of the big enterprises behind Bitcoin. Why this is going to be different anyway?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on April 05, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
community showed support, great thing :) happy to be part of it

Do you feel proud to be part of a pre-order money grab scheme? I am start to think this money will be never donated to Mr Nakamoto. Greed has corrupted most of the big enterprises behind Bitcoin. Why this is going to be different anyway?

I don't know if you know but Andreas did say he was taking some time off....


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: grifferz on April 05, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
community showed support, great thing :) happy to be part of it

Do you feel proud to be part of a pre-order money grab scheme?
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 05, 2014, 07:48:42 PM
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Chang Hum on April 05, 2014, 08:10:46 PM
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



Trendon Shavers clearly ran a ponzi scheme, i feel sorry for the people involved with him not because of what they lost but what they never had (brains).

Bruce Wagner just needed 1 letter in his name changed and re-positioned to form what most people would describe him as. If he was a voice associated with bitcoin it was certainly self imposed.

Patrick Harnett was offloading his toxic pirate debt ahaaa he's the best example on your list.

Zhou Thong was and still is a very intelligent lad but I don't think he stole anything.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: grifferz on April 05, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?
Sure you have a right to say whatever you like, but it reflects on your character if you're shown to be wrong.

So by all means call someone a scammer when you have absolutely no evidence of that, but I hope you will be apologetic if and when you are proven wrong. I would certainly apologise to you for doubting you in that case.

Though it'd still be nice to hear exactly why you draw the conclusions you do. I was really hoping we'd hear those reasons, which is why I asked what your agenda was.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: DynamicDK on April 05, 2014, 09:11:57 PM
Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 05, 2014, 10:01:12 PM
Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

absolutely.  and if Augusto Croppo has any doubts, put your money where your mouth is.
I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. 


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: S4VV4S on April 06, 2014, 05:04:42 AM
Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

absolutely.  and if Augusto Croppo has any doubts, put your money where your mouth is.
I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. 

I am in for that.

I bet all my coins that Andreas will deliver as soon as he is back from his time out.
Anyone willing to take my bet?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Chang Hum on April 06, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

absolutely.  and if Augusto Croppo has any doubts, put your money where your mouth is.
I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. 

I am in for that.

I bet all my coins that Andreas will deliver as soon as he is back from his time out.
Anyone willing to take my bet?


If as soon means within 24 hours of making public communication and it's at 10 to 1 I'm in :)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 06, 2014, 02:58:20 PM
So by all means call someone a scammer when you have absolutely no evidence of that, but I hope you will be apologetic if and when you are proven wrong. I would certainly apologise to you for doubting you in that case.

I did not called him a scammer at any moment. I said that is a money grab scheme. Let me repeat: money grab scheme, which rely on collect money for whatever reason and keep it.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 06, 2014, 03:03:48 PM
Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

Yeah, let me guess... The next excuse will be the USD/BTC price is not high enough, so the donation will be done in June.

 ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: grifferz on April 06, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
So by all means call someone a scammer when you have absolutely no evidence of that, but I hope you will be apologetic if and when you are proven wrong. I would certainly apologise to you for doubting you in that case.

I did not called him a scammer at any moment. I said that is a money grab scheme. Let me repeat: money grab scheme, which rely on collect money for whatever reason and keep it.
Alright Augusto have it your way. It's a shame that you're not going to explain why you think Andreas is operating a money-grab-scheme-which-you-don't-say-is-a-scam-but-just-some-other-way-to-collect-money-for-whatever-reason-and-keep-it-somehow-not-in-line-with-what-he-promised-to-do, nor that you intend to apologise for those accusations if and when Andreas does deliver the funds thus disproving your money-grab-scheme-which-you-don't-say-is-a-scam-but-just-some-other-way-to-collect-money-for-whatever-reason-and-keep-it-somehow-not-in-line-with-what-he-promised-to-do theory.

But that will be the last you will hear about it from me as this has now become too surreal.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 06, 2014, 03:41:21 PM
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



Bruno Kucinskas a.k.a. Phinnaeus Gage a.k.a. TMIBTCITW ran off with a valuable herd of Bagot and British Primitive Goats belonging to a Lambo-driving Bitcoiner. (at least that's what I hope it'll read once added to the ironic list above if such comes to fruition)

http://svffoundation.org/images/animals/sanclementegoats.jpg
"The Bitcoin detectives will find us any day now, led by this dude name Pinn... Shit! We're fucked! Well, at least I uttered my first double entendre."


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: grifferz on April 06, 2014, 04:14:54 PM
Bruno Kucinskas a.k.a. Phinnaeus Gage a.k.a. TMIBTCITW ran off with a valuable herd of Bagot and British Primitive Goats belonging to a Lambo-driving Bitcoiner.
Okay, I take it back, it was possible to make it slightly more surreal. :)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 06, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



Man, for a VIP member, you sure seem sour and jaded.  Did the price crash get to you?
Did you sell your forum account?



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 07, 2014, 03:11:22 AM
Man, for a VIP member, you sure seem sour and jaded.  Did the price crash get to you?

Yes, I cannot stop to think how the people which bought BTC "savings" at 1200 USD are feeling right know... Poor people.

 :-[

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Did you sell your forum account?

No.

By the way, I read in another thread that Andreas is involved with the Neo&Bee scheme. It is a coincidence the donation date was changed when the Neo&Bee CEO just vanished...

 ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Nemo1024 on April 10, 2014, 09:53:56 PM
Read here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/

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UPDATE - April 9th, 2014:

I am in contact with Mr. Dorian Nakamoto and I will be delivering control of the funds to him, in person, within the next 3 weeks. I will post an update once this is done, as verification.


Man, for a VIP member, you sure seem sour and jaded.  Did the price crash get to you?

Yes, I cannot stop to think how the people which bought BTC "savings" at 1200 USD are feeling right know... Poor people.

 :-[

I am also sad for those people in the same way I was sad for those who bough at 260 in April last year, managed to hodl, and sold at 1000... ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tinus42 on April 10, 2014, 10:45:33 PM
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



Wasn't Andreas advisor to Neo Bee led by scuzzball Cryptocyprus Danny who is the latest big scammer on this list (only Mark K. is missing)?

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1swo6w/andreas_antonopoulos_is_advising_neo_bee_look_at/

So he didn't pay Dorian Nakamoto diddly squat as of yet when it only takes seconds to make a payment? Quelle surprise...


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: thisisnotmyltcusername on April 10, 2014, 11:12:55 PM

By mid April the price might be $600 or more so maybe it is a good idea for Andreas to take another week or two.


at this falling rate, he'd be lucky if it's $60  :D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on April 11, 2014, 07:09:56 PM
Wasn't Andreas advisor to Neo Bee led by scuzzball Cryptocyprus Danny who is the latest big scammer on this list (only Mark K. is missing)?

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1swo6w/andreas_antonopoulos_is_advising_neo_bee_look_at/

So he didn't pay Dorian Nakamoto diddly squat as of yet when it only takes seconds to make a payment? Quelle surprise...

Well, even the man with the best of intentions might become the advisor for someone not that good. Andreas is probably busy and don't have the time to research everyone that contacts him. But he's probably well meaning and if anyone reaches out for help he gives a helping hand. By action, he's repeatedly shown that he wants the best of Bitcoin. It could all be a play, but I doubt that.

As for the Neo Bee situation I have no idea how that's played out or what's happened, if there's anything criminal going on, that's highly unfortunate, and the last thing bitcoin needs.

Dorian Nakamoto is reportedly not active when it comes to bitcoin, and I saw some reports of him not even having an internet connection, he had to drop it because of emotional distress. Through traditional channels, communications might take longer, and if there's an exchange to dollars involved, and possibly a flight so the money can be transferred in person as well, it will all add to the time required to finish the deal.

If however it turns out it's a scam, Andreas has forever burned himself, somehow I believe that's not very likely, so as long as he's not provably failed, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on April 11, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

By mid April the price might be $600 or more so maybe it is a good idea for Andreas to take another week or two.


at this falling rate, he'd be lucky if it's $60  :D

Hopefully Andreas will give him the option to hold the coins without cashing them in.  Seriously, by Summer they could be worth 5 times as much as they are now.  But even at $400 per coin I am sure Dorian will be appreciative.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 12, 2014, 05:23:11 AM
Wasn't Andreas advisor to Neo Bee led by scuzzball Cryptocyprus Danny who is the latest big scammer on this list (only Mark K. is missing)?

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1swo6w/andreas_antonopoulos_is_advising_neo_bee_look_at/

So he didn't pay Dorian Nakamoto diddly squat as of yet when it only takes seconds to make a payment? Quelle surprise...

Well, even the man with the best of intentions might become the advisor for someone not that good. Andreas is probably busy and don't have the time to research everyone that contacts him. But he's probably well meaning and if anyone reaches out for help he gives a helping hand. By action, he's repeatedly shown that he wants the best of Bitcoin. It could all be a play, but I doubt that.

As for the Neo Bee situation I have no idea how that's played out or what's happened, if there's anything criminal going on, that's highly unfortunate, and the last thing bitcoin needs.

Dorian Nakamoto is reportedly not active when it comes to bitcoin, and I saw some reports of him not even having an internet connection, he had to drop it because of emotional distress. Through traditional channels, communications might take longer, and if there's an exchange to dollars involved, and possibly a flight so the money can be transferred in person as well, it will all add to the time required to finish the deal.

If however it turns out it's a scam, Andreas has forever burned himself, somehow I believe that's not very likely, so as long as he's not provably failed, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe Andreas just wants to meet the creator of bitcoin in person.  I'm sure he must be a fan.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: redhawk979 on April 12, 2014, 09:14:25 AM
Wasn't Andreas advisor to Neo Bee led by scuzzball Cryptocyprus Danny who is the latest big scammer on this list (only Mark K. is missing)?

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1swo6w/andreas_antonopoulos_is_advising_neo_bee_look_at/

So he didn't pay Dorian Nakamoto diddly squat as of yet when it only takes seconds to make a payment? Quelle surprise...

Well, even the man with the best of intentions might become the advisor for someone not that good. Andreas is probably busy and don't have the time to research everyone that contacts him. But he's probably well meaning and if anyone reaches out for help he gives a helping hand. By action, he's repeatedly shown that he wants the best of Bitcoin. It could all be a play, but I doubt that.

As for the Neo Bee situation I have no idea how that's played out or what's happened, if there's anything criminal going on, that's highly unfortunate, and the last thing bitcoin needs.

Dorian Nakamoto is reportedly not active when it comes to bitcoin, and I saw some reports of him not even having an internet connection, he had to drop it because of emotional distress. Through traditional channels, communications might take longer, and if there's an exchange to dollars involved, and possibly a flight so the money can be transferred in person as well, it will all add to the time required to finish the deal.

If however it turns out it's a scam, Andreas has forever burned himself, somehow I believe that's not very likely, so as long as he's not provably failed, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

This is the attitude that lets so many Bitcoin scams flourish. People making excuses for red flags.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on April 12, 2014, 11:53:43 AM
This is the attitude that lets so many Bitcoin scams flourish. People making excuses for red flags.

You hit the wrong target.

What are the red flags here, please elaborate.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: redhawk979 on April 13, 2014, 07:14:16 PM
Because relying on reputation isn't always the best thing, as has been proven tons of times. Everyone slobbered on Neo & Bee, look how well that turned out. People defending Danny even when he goes MIA for 2+ weeks with no answers.

What is the hold up to deliver money to Dorian?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Abdussamad on April 13, 2014, 07:21:06 PM
Maybe Andreas just wants to meet the creator of bitcoin in person.  I'm sure he must be a fan.

Maybe Andreas just wants to meet the creator of bitcoin in prison. I'm sure he must be a fan


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on April 13, 2014, 08:12:57 PM
Because relying on reputation isn't always the best thing, as has been proven tons of times. Everyone slobbered on Neo & Bee, look how well that turned out. People defending Danny even when he goes MIA for 2+ weeks with no answers.

What is the hold up to deliver money to Dorian?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto

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UPDATE - April 9th, 2014:

I am in contact with Mr. Dorian Nakamoto and I will be delivering control of the funds to him, in person, within the next 3 weeks. I will post an update once this is done, as verification.

Approx 19K USD worth of btc is collected at the moment (47.55 btc): https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

I guess 3 weeks timeframe in the real world to have something done is not unreasonable..


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: 2tights on April 14, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
 I'm confused; has this been delivered to him?

I donated BTC under the pretense that it would be delivered to Satoshi... wth?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: runam0k on April 14, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
I'm confused; has this been delivered to him?

I donated BTC under the pretense that it would be delivered to Satoshi... wth?
Read the post immediately above yours.

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within the next 3 weeks
Can't decide whether this is better than Two WeeksTM or not. ;D

Seriously though, he has to convert the BTC to USD and set up a meeting.  Three weeks is perfectly reasonable.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 15, 2014, 12:24:48 AM
I say that if it were most anybody else, I would suggest getting out the pitchforks, but truly believe that Andreas Antonopolous WILL deliver even if it takes upwards of a month.

The sad part is that Dorian's lawyer may end up the biggest chunk of it since he probably had to retain counsel.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 15, 2014, 02:34:28 AM
I say that if it were most anybody else, I would suggest getting out the pitchforks, but truly believe that Andreas Antonopolous WILL deliver even if it takes upwards of a month.

The sad part is that Dorian's lawyer may end up the biggest chunk of it since he probably had to retain counsel.

No one has take me up on my 10 to 1 odds bet that Andreas will deliver.  I could always be wrong but like others have said, makes no sense for him to trash his reputation for a few dozen coins.  Plus, when something rings true, you can feel it.  I feel this man's integrity.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 15, 2014, 02:53:13 AM
Maybe Andreas just wants to meet the creator of bitcoin in person.  I'm sure he must be a fan.

Maybe Andreas just wants to meet the creator of bitcoin in prison. I'm sure he must be a fan

What do you mean? 


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on April 15, 2014, 11:26:54 AM
I'm pretty sure Andreas has delivered the funds already and is just waiting a week or two to announce it, so it's very old news and the media won't bother to pick up on it. Smart.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on April 15, 2014, 02:02:46 PM
I'm pretty sure Andreas has delivered the funds already and is just waiting a week or two to announce it, so it's very old news and the media won't bother to pick up on it. Smart.

But why do we still see 47.55582895 BTC in the blockchain?  ???  I think we will know when the funds move.  ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on April 15, 2014, 08:53:06 PM
I'm pretty sure Andreas has delivered the funds already and is just waiting a week or two to announce it, so it's very old news and the media won't bother to pick up on it. Smart.

But why do we still see 47.55582895 BTC in the blockchain?  ???  I think we will know when the funds move.  ;)
Because Andreas isn't going to give away the date by moving the coins. He probably will use his own coins. And once he provides proof of the funds going to Dorian, refund himself the 47.x btc from the fundraising address.

I don't have any inside info, I'm just am guessing he'll do that.

But he has said he does not intend to create any more media attention for Dorian. So by doing everything as unremarkably as possible, he'll keep it low key.

I doubt there will be a photo of Andreas and Dorian provided as proof. It might exist, but you are more likely to see Osama Bin Laden's mortuary photos :D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: TheFootMan on April 16, 2014, 01:57:53 PM
I'm pretty sure Andreas has delivered the funds already and is just waiting a week or two to announce it, so it's very old news and the media won't bother to pick up on it. Smart.

But why do we still see 47.55582895 BTC in the blockchain?  ???  I think we will know when the funds move.  ;)
Because Andreas isn't going to give away the date by moving the coins. He probably will use his own coins. And once he provides proof of the funds going to Dorian, refund himself the 47.x btc from the fundraising address.

I don't have any inside info, I'm just am guessing he'll do that.

But he has said he does not intend to create any more media attention for Dorian. So by doing everything as unremarkably as possible, he'll keep it low key.

I doubt there will be a photo of Andreas and Dorian provided as proof. It might exist, but you are more likely to see Osama Bin Laden's mortuary photos :D

Well - there should be some proof of delivery that can't be refuted, like an official statement from his lawyer for instance, posted on the very webpage of that lawyers offices or similar.

No matter if we believe Andreas is the real deal, which I think most people do, there should be some sort of accountability, and I think Andreas would agree to that, blind faith has proven to be not a good thing in the bitcoin community. :\

I hope Dorian get the money and can put it to good use, then be left in peace. He's an old man. Give him a break.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Pentax on April 22, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
Dorian Nakamoto - Thank you Bitcoin Community

Andreas has delivered the goods:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YmJZ-qVW8

Nice job Bitcoin peeps!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tins on April 22, 2014, 08:32:23 PM
Dorian Nakamoto - Thank you Bitcoin Community

Andreas has delivered the goods:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YmJZ-qVW8

Nice job Bitcoin peeps!


Really makes the bitcoin community look good.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 22, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Well done Andreas Antonopolous and Dorian S. Nakamoto!

This is what the Bitcoin community should really be about.  The charitable and fundraiser aspect.

Glad to see Dorian in good spirits, and Andreas always shining a bright light on Bitcoin.

Bravo gents, bravo!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: BitChick on April 22, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
Dorian Nakamoto - Thank you Bitcoin Community

Andreas has delivered the goods:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YmJZ-qVW8

Nice job Bitcoin peeps!


Really makes the bitcoin community look good.

So glad Dorian is not cashing them out into fiat!  :)  I am sure Andreas explained to him the reasons to do that!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Chang Hum on April 22, 2014, 09:27:07 PM
What a lovely bloke (both of them)

Hope it's taught a few of you not to jump to conclusions about people based on baseless thoughts or arguments


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: The Avenger on April 22, 2014, 10:09:54 PM
Wow, I was not expecting a video :o Not exactly low key Andreas, a public youtube video? Anyway.

Dorian, I hope this brings a little positive light back into your life after the darkness caused by Newsweek's (spit!) work of fiction.

The funds couldn't go to a more deserving person. What a great speech you ad-libbed :) Even though you are not "Bitcoin Satoshi", we'd all be happy and proud if you were.

And now that you own Bitcoin - whether you like it or not - you are one of us! ;D

HODL!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: EFS on April 22, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Andreas is a good man, probably one of the best in Bitcoin community. I'm glad I'm also being a part of this fundraiser.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: FeedbackLoop on April 22, 2014, 10:46:50 PM

Perfect! Welcome to Bitcoin Dorian and thank you for setting this up Andreas!



Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 22, 2014, 11:14:08 PM
good work andreas!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: pandacoin on April 22, 2014, 11:16:58 PM
Well done Andreas.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Stringer Bell on April 22, 2014, 11:55:26 PM
Great work Andreas ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: poordeveloper on April 23, 2014, 12:17:10 AM
He'll keep the Bitcoins :) Awesome decision. Thanks a lot Andreas!


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 23, 2014, 12:26:32 AM
To the doubters, "told you so"  ;)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Polyrhythm on April 23, 2014, 12:41:58 AM
Wow! What a nice thing for him to do.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 23, 2014, 01:11:45 AM
Wow!

What an amazing proof of delivery, a video where someone is instructed to say it received an Bitcoin "account".

LoL


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2014, 01:21:09 AM
Wow!

What an amazing proof of delivery, a video where someone is instructed to say it received an Bitcoin "account".

LoL

What's a matter?

Bitter because your "pre-order money grab scheme" theory was torn to shreds.   :'(

Grow up dude!   ;D


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: augustocroppo on April 23, 2014, 01:24:15 AM
Wow!

What an amazing proof of delivery, a video where someone is instructed to say it received an Bitcoin "account".

LoL

What's a matter?

Bitter because your "pre-order money grab scheme" theory was torn to shreds.   :'(

Grow up dude!   ;D

d00d, I am having a good time comparing this amazing proof of delivery video with Goat's new project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pdsCHUXxc

LoL


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2014, 01:47:36 AM
Wow!

What an amazing proof of delivery, a video where someone is instructed to say it received an Bitcoin "account".

LoL

What's a matter?

Bitter because your "pre-order money grab scheme" theory was torn to shreds.   :'(

Grow up dude!   ;D

d00d, I am having a good time comparing this amazing proof of delivery video with Goat's new project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pdsCHUXxc

LoL

My bad, thought you were still leaning on the Andreas scam angle.   8)

That said, Goat's look f$cking amazing! 

Like it's looks serious and hilarious at the same time.  I can't decide!   :P


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 23, 2014, 03:52:08 AM
I wonder what kind of wallet Dorian has.  Blockchain with 2fa ?


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Satosh¡ Slot on April 23, 2014, 04:38:34 AM
I wonder what kind of wallet Dorian has.  Blockchain with 2fa ?

Seems like Andreas just gave him a Blockchain.info wallet as the funds are still in the original donation wallet.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 23, 2014, 09:38:08 AM
Dorian Nakamoto - Thank you Bitcoin Community

Andreas has delivered the goods:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YmJZ-qVW8

Nice job Bitcoin peeps!

Amazing! 11,643 views in less than 24 hours.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: tinus42 on April 23, 2014, 11:17:33 AM
Wow!

What an amazing proof of delivery, a video where someone is instructed to say it received an Bitcoin "account".

LoL

What's a matter?

Bitter because your "pre-order money grab scheme" theory was torn to shreds.   :'(

Grow up dude!   ;D

d00d, I am having a good time comparing this amazing proof of delivery video with Goat's new project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pdsCHUXxc

LoL

My bad, thought you were still leaning on the Andreas scam angle.   8)

That said, Goat's look f$cking amazing! 

Like it's looks serious and hilarious at the same time.  I can't decide!   :P

Enough people still think Bitcoin is a joke. This is of course the right format to convince them otherwise. ::)


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: oda.krell on April 23, 2014, 01:00:06 PM
Funds delivered. Dorian says his thanks. Andreas in background, looking slightly shell shocked :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YmJZ-qVW8

Great job, Andreas, and donators of course.

Also, since comments for the video are disabled, I have to say it here.... "each one of you gives me a little tick in my heart"? ... Dorian is just too adorable.


Title: Re: Andreas Antonopolous raising funds for Dorian Nakamoto
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 23, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I wonder what kind of wallet Dorian has.  Blockchain with 2fa ?

Seems like Andreas just gave him a Blockchain.info wallet as the funds are still in the original donation wallet.

Definitely makes sense to give him Blockchain wallet, as Andreas is the Chief Security Officer at Blockchain.info.   :)