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October 24, 2018, 03:40:30 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.
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October 24, 2018, 03:52:53 AM
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There's no bot/AI/ML which is good/smart enough to determine whether a post have good quality, helpful or not. It's hard task, especially because the bot need to understand about Bitcoin, cryptography, economy and other fields before can determine whether a post have good quality, helpful or not.

But, if people don't mind dummy bot, then it's possible by either only recommend post from member who have good knowledge such as achow101 and gmaxwell with minimum character count.

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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.


A merit bot is too hard to make and is not needed.

We already have TMan who swears at shitposters, plagiarists and merit beggars as well as ridiculing them.

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October 24, 2018, 06:17:42 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.


A merit bot is too hard to make and is not needed.

We already have TMan who swears at shiposters, plagiarists and merit beggars as well as ridiculing them.

Yeah, I've just found that thread.

I don't think if something is hard to make that shouldn't be make.

Needed or not? Time will show. You have galore of "how to get merit for beginners" threads. Of course, created to get merit.
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October 24, 2018, 06:27:43 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.

Really? this isn't a fucking multi national organisation looking for AI  to prevent phishing attacks, this is a nerd forum about Bitcoin. It used to be a great place until all the pajeets realised they didn't need to work at Maccie D's or on a farm any more, they could just come here and shitpost like you do.

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October 24, 2018, 06:49:51 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.


Do you know different between human and bots ? And really did you research why are merit system implemented ? I don't think so. A computer work faster more than a human, but computer should be operate by a human. So how a bot will consider which post is deserve merit ? I have doubts about your account, really are you bot or human ? Because everywhere you are suggesting for bots.

For meriting on a post you need to confirm that it's really worth of merit or not. For consider it obviously you have to use your brain. A bot have no brain. So there is no chance implement merit bot.

I think you should not post about merit system until you haven't  earned enough.

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October 24, 2018, 07:02:12 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot.

The forum does not have an anti spam bot. The mods and admins to around and delete spam comments and also trash useless threads in the forum.
They are also aided by members who can flag a post by reporting it and they take action (they are pretty efficient for you to think they're bots)

That's also how the merit works, members and selected source go around and look for worthy and educative posts.
I've seen bots do lots of things but designing such an EA would be very tasking.
If you think your posts don't get noticed, then consider venturing to other boards and fully exploring the forum.

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October 24, 2018, 07:07:47 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.


Your offer is impossible to implement. If you assume this, then most likely you think that there are some objective, well-established criteria by which you can distinguish high-quality post. But it`s not. Merit is an absolutely subjective assessment. There`re no conditional arrangements among the participants about whom and for what to give merits. Even merit-sources act at their discretion. Therefore, this estimate remains unpredictable. How do you propose to enter such unforeseen data into a computer and create a program? It just won`t be able to calculate all possible situations where a post can be regarded as constructive and useful.
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October 24, 2018, 07:20:48 AM
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We already have bots who post for merit, copy-pasting content from internet and spin it trough article snipers, those a almost impossible to proof but easy to detect for a human. I'm not really sure that a bot/AI could be a good idea for those posts.

The quality content is so subjective matter that is impossible to create something like this and it's not needed, it's fine like this and it's getting better.

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October 24, 2018, 08:31:08 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot.

The forum does not have an anti spam bot. The mods and admins to around and delete spam comments and also trash useless threads in the forum.
They are also aided by members who can flag a post by reporting it and they take action (they are pretty efficient for you to think they're bots)


This is probably why the user thinks the forum has an anti spam bot.

The autoban makes it look like it is an automated process https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php  .



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October 24, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
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Forum has anti spam bot. Is it possible to create bot which scan posts for plagiarism, if passes then scan for quality. Bot should be able to give merit or recommend post for merit. Depends what is better.

You are suggesting a bot for checking plagiarism or a bot for merit or both?

There is a reason why merit sources were selected to be humans and not bots in the first place. Subjectivity in what is merit worthy and what is not is what  is important in determining whether a person is worthy of a higher rank or not. Thats what merit is for - to allow people to rank up. But a bot in its place would not understand what is a good post and whats not because it lacks the higher functions of the human brain - logic, reasoning and judgement.

The forum does not have an anti spam bot. The mods and admins to around and delete spam comments and also trash useless threads in the forum.
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October 24, 2018, 10:51:14 PM
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Antispam is all we can do, from there we need massive advancements in AI to help with NLP and sentiment analysis
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