the Cryptopia-apocalypse FUND

[vampirus]

Where do you find pre-delist status?

[1714649446]

1714649446

[four3200]

Where do you find pre-delist status?

Educated guess.
If MEC and ZET and WORLD and Quark are getting delisted, then whats under that in rank?

[vampirus]

I do not know about all coins, but Quark - PoW coin and can be easy 51% attacked.
CAP - have checkpoint server, TEK - mostly PoS coin and have high difficulty last year.

[four3200]

What if I told you that there's more to life than Craptopia?

[Vaniaayu]

I just found out, there are cases of this kind, maybe it can be likened to the Ethreum Classic which has been deleted by several exchanges, because the price has no nominal, and the team has stated that there is no further development. maybe if it's like this, it's normal for the exchange to delete it

[four3200]

Good placements already for the Classic POW

https://trade.thecoin.pw/market/BTC-BAT

[almightyruler]

I do not know about all coins, but Quark - PoW coin and can be easy 51% attacked.
CAP - have checkpoint server, TEK - mostly PoS coin and have high difficulty last year.

Hmmm, interesting thread.

One idea I had to protect exchange deposits, without needing to change client code, was for the exchange to mine some blocks whenever there is a pending customer deposit. This does add complexity, especially for PoW mining, but it may better protect smaller coins (and the exchange's interest in confirmed deposits remaining valid.)

Another possibility is a modified client which watches for large chain reorgs (a 51% attack), temporarily ignores the longer chain, and mines to extend the existing chain to make it the longer one again. Or maybe it could just fight with the attacker until it wins the longest chain, then retransmit the transactions which have been voided. This is a fair bit more complicated to set up, but anyone could do it, and it would benefit the whole network.

[JavaScrypt]

I do not know about all coins, but Quark - PoW coin and can be easy 51% attacked.
CAP - have checkpoint server, TEK - mostly PoS coin and have high difficulty last year.

Hmmm, interesting thread.

One idea I had to protect exchange deposits, without needing to change client code, was for the exchange to mine some blocks whenever there is a pending customer deposit. This does add complexity, especially for PoW mining, but it may better protect smaller coins (and the exchange's interest in confirmed deposits remaining valid.)

Another possibility is a modified client which watches for large chain reorgs (a 51% attack), temporarily ignores the longer chain, and mines to extend the existing chain to make it the longer one again. Or maybe it could just fight with the attacker until it wins the longest chain, then retransmit the transactions which have been voided. This is a fair bit more complicated to set up, but anyone could do it, and it would benefit the whole network.

Yes great ideas!

But who does the work?

Devs?
Miners?
Exchanges?
Investors?

ASIC has given a narrow cartel full control of POW models.  And they will 51% the competitors chains, and likely will raid exchange accounts, if and when it benefits.

POS models eliminate the 51% attack vector.   Unless the owners are insane and suicidal and attack themselves.

But who does the work?

For ASIC >>> Miners [they hold near complete power] thus need to work with exchanges on net status, else destroy any remaining Investors confidence in the POW ASIC model.  The true miners are they who make the ASIC tech, the have the BTCcash and will (or do) control (or own) the exchange. 

For POS >>> Exchanges and Investors.  As mentioned Exchanges can mine blocks if POS chains are sticky, and they can elected to not mine to the benefit of small stakes Investors.  Also stake pools as part of the exchange platform, Exchanges provide staking returns to Investors, and Investors seek better service providers IF Exchanges abuse this compact.

For second tier ASIC >>> The chains not being the under Industrial eye, these miners are using out-dated ASICs or other hardware, the mining pools providing direct exchange services makes sense.  And then more liquid exchange houses will come online at a future date.

For not-ASIC POWs >>> They are all doomed.  Either the devs have 100% control as to HF when ASIC sight them, yet the ASIC can counter with miner initiated HF, and the END.  These projects only offer a FAIRer initial distribution, yet are doomed to a future hijack by that narrow cartel.

For POS/POW hybrids  and multi-algo and AUX >>> Safest long bet for investors.  Devs still have a few wrinkles but the code and blueprint is sound for secure network state, however there still is a hash-tax on the investors for the benefit of miners.  

 

[four3200]

https://www.183898.com/

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https://github.com/lolsilent

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[Orenonex]

I use this exchange for about a year. Indeed, recently a huge amount of coins began to be delisted from the stock exchange. This has hit my portfolio very much, I hope the exchange team will do something about it. Too many dissatisfied users.

[Iarnnoshre]

thank you for your post ot was really interesting to find out some new information but i stoll do not share the global panoc about it

[four3200]

holder of:

    Sexcoin(SXC)
    Cthulhu Offerings(OFF)
    MarxCoin(MARX)
    NAMO COIN(NAMO)
    ZetaCoin(ZET)
    TitCoin(TIT)
    SolarflareCoin(SFC)
    Granite(GRN)
    BolivarCoin(BOLI)
    FireFlyCoin(FFC)
    GroinCoin(GXG)
    GoldCoin(GLD)
    Maza(MAZA)
    MegaCoin(MEC)
    LeaCoin(LEA)

Get Out!

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TIT https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/3407-titcoin%E2%84%A2-tit-new-developer-discussion-forum-2016-xbiz-awards-nominee/
PR https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/40178-prototanium-pure-pow-sha256-rare-250k/


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https://github.com/Worldcoin-Network/worldcoin/releases/tag/v0.8.7.5

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We get a listing on a new exchange called coffe. The exchange will start on 20th December 2018.




https://coffe.io/

[JavaScrypt]

CNO block explorer moved from cryptoguru to ccexp.
http://[Suspicious link removed]/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=CNO

CNO block explorer moved from cryptoguru to ccexp.
http://[Suspicious link removed]/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=CNO

LOG block explorer moved from cryptoguru to ccexp.
http://[Suspicious link removed]/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=LOG

QBT block explorer moved from cryptoguru to ccexp.
http://[Suspicious link removed]/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=QBT

SCIFI block explorer moved from cryptoguru to ccexp.
http://[Suspicious link removed]/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=SCIFI

http:// [Suspicious link removed]/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=SCIFI

http://cc exp .tk/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=SCIFI

tty https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1186025.0
tty https://trinitycointty.weebly.com/

https://www.coinexplorer.net/TRBO

mza https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZ3s6sqhFPaPgTHthjuEuvZP1oBGE452CmrBsGjKhF6w3
mza https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmeFphaDUMjMhqih5w54g5mvqKzNMibPJJ8DNehhWtaVME

[GuncoinInfo]

Guncoin (GUN) has released a security upgrade (GUN Core V1.5.2, that solves the 0.16 problem and takes care of the situation with Cryptopia.  The exchange is running the new code now and should be refilling wallets with GUN to get Guncoin moving again. Hopefully, GUN is out of Maintenance Mode shortly as a result.

[four3200]

@GUN
cool.

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Looks legit (copied from the Coval forum):

Exchange name: https://instantbitex.com/
Contact person: https://t.me/johnniecrypto

Listing fee and other details are to be discussed in Telegram

Exchange credits:
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/instant-bitex/
https://www.coingecko.com/en/exchanges/instantbitex
https://coincodex.com/exchange/instantbitex/

I think good to investigate.

[almightyruler]

Another idea to mitigate 51% attacks:

1. For small networks, require a significant period of time (not just confirmation count) for a deposit to credit. Something like 24 hours.
2. BUT, coins can be credited to an account earlier if the customer provides collateral.

For example, you make a deposit of coin X, and already have a BTC balance. The exchange places a temporary hold on part of your BTC balance, as collateral, and immediately credits your pending deposit for coin X.

If the deposit period ends without incident, the temporary hold on the collateral is removed. But if instead the coin X deposit is reversed by a 51% attack, and there's no forthcoming re-deposit (this is to ensure legit customers whose deposits are reversed are not penalised by someone else's attack), the exchange settles the discrepancy by keeping the collateral.

This is a variation of an idea I posted 5 years ago to pawn available balance of one coin in order to trade another:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355810

[four3200]

Embargo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=574155.0
http://explorer.cryptoadhd.com/chain/Embargocoin
https://github.com/Embargocoin/Embargocoin

[four3200]

Indonesian Exchange
https://bitsten.com/

[four3200]

Another idea to mitigate 51% attacks:

1. For small networks, require a significant period of time (not just confirmation count) for a deposit to credit. Something like 24 hours.
2. BUT, coins can be credited to an account earlier if the customer provides collateral.

For example, you make a deposit of coin X, and already have a BTC balance. The exchange places a temporary hold on part of your BTC balance, as collateral, and immediately credits your pending deposit for coin X.

If the deposit period ends without incident, the temporary hold on the collateral is removed. But if instead the coin X deposit is reversed by a 51% attack, and there's no forthcoming re-deposit (this is to ensure legit customers whose deposits are reversed are not penalised by someone else's attack), the exchange settles the discrepancy by keeping the collateral.

This is a variation of an idea I posted 5 years ago to pawn available balance of one coin in order to trade another:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355810

@almighty

Yes solutions outside of wholesale delisting are very possible.

I think the SHIFT needs to be more decentralized custodial silos.
We can still trade on niffty looking trade engines.

But they don't hold the coins.
Another counterparty does that [custodial bots].

EXAMPLES

https://tradesatoshi.com/api/public/getcurrencies
ping
GET

Code:

    {
                          "currency": "BTC",
                          "currencyLong": "Bitcoin",
                          "minConfirmation": 6,
                          "txFee": 0.00000000,
                          "status": "OK"
               }

1. GUI friendly trade apps
2. pinging dozens of tradesatoshi-like-boards
3. have marginal trading accounts [collateral stuff you mentioned]
4. Users deposit to trade-app not exchange

WHAT'S DIFFERENT?

5. Exchanges can list or delist but it doesn't kill the coin because market is in the cloud api driven.
6. This splits the conventional model of "the exchange" into [api-book-maker matching bids/asks] and [GUI-sexy-style-apps].
7. [GUI-sexy-style-apps] is the mobile future, popular shift to make.
8. This eliminates 2FA/login/thrice confirmation KYC headache nightmare.
9. The wallet as the service model (see BREAD, METAL, PAY, OMG?)

[four3200]

After conducting a thorough review, it has been determined that the below coin(s) no longer comply and as such, we are delisting:

    TittieCoin(TTC)
    NAMO COIN(NAMO)
    ZetaCoin(ZET)
    SolarflareCoin(SFC)
    Granite(GRN)
    MarxCoin(MARX)