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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC!  (Read 1014490 times)
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January 02, 2019, 06:22:23 AM
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Hello All!

It so nice to see UNO doing awesome! Brings back memories working on UNO with FallingKnife!

Please do let me know, if there's anything I can do with regards to development aspects.

Warmest Regards,
˜SoopY˜

Wow, there's a blast from 2014! Have have you been doing, SoopY? What have you worked on lately?


Wish you and the entire UNO community a very Happy and a Prosperous New Year.
A blast indeed my good friend. I have been working on NAV since then but currently mostly consulting and working with communities on the CryptoWorld!

How are you doing and everything with regards to UNO?

Warmest Regards,
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January 03, 2019, 08:38:01 PM
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Hi

Are there good instructions anywhere for installing the UNO linux wallet ? The mac wallet gets "tazed" by my Virus checker as soon as I try to open the drive image cos it thinks it detects "bot miner" trojans.

This coin might start to get serious soon as its performance against BTC has been stellar through the bear market and it will soon start to be identified by new market participants as one of the few "survivors" from right back in the dawn of alts.

P.S. I see there's instructions here, but they're 4 years old. Do they still apply ?
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January 04, 2019, 12:21:55 AM
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If you need more activity than you see here, remember that most UNO chat is now happening on Telegram at t.me/unobtaniumuno

Be nice there was a desktop accessible forum. I'm locked out of Telegram cos only have a cellphone, no smartphone. You need a smartphone to signup.
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January 12, 2019, 10:18:26 AM
Last edit: January 12, 2019, 07:17:28 PM by four3200
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@above, sorry I'm not good with iOS.  But those virus checkers block all RPC qts with the mine in wallet feature from way back in the day.  

back in the dawn of alts daze Wink


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Stop't by to ponder the value of UNO as measured by reward of other chains;

Examples:

Bitcoin rewards 12.5 btc per 600 seconds.
0.0222 buys 1 kilo UNO

or 0.11776% of the 10-minute BTC block
or 1.07 seconds of BTC block time = 1 kilo of un block time

(∴)

$UNO demands around 4-5 seconds per day of BTC (daily reward supply) invested per day to save off inflation.
STABLE coin.

Cheap life insurance? You bet!  Imagine the average Joe buying full coverage for 10 sec of his time, fixed rate for ever, cuz that's in the code.

Okay not "forever" but 20 seconds after halving, 40 seconds in 4 years after that, 1.33 minutes 8 years later, near 2.666 minutes 12 years later, and 5 minutes of the ASIC industries daily time round about 20 years from today.  Sound OK?

Now further on the btc-ASIC-industry need only invest seconds of their workday to support a product they get virtually for free along side their precious ore.  Now add competition (for $UNO network security) via bCH & bSV pools doing the same.
Grin

Diving deeper?

Let's ... btc-ASIC-industry needs ... Vision.

Such as reinforcing $UNO as the store of value.  How? Why?  HODL $UNO when BTC is bullish, but sell the BTC.  In reverse, HODL the BTC when BTC is bearish, but sell the $UNO to supplement mining costs.

Else the only other option is fiat cash reserves, which is not very crypto-like.

But true to blockchain ethos is the golden triangle of the sha256-ASIC-industry, aka BitMain Inc, is to store value ($-fiat) in $UNO in the summer months, and to store up BTC in the winter months.  Why sell BTC below costs?  

Are there other SoV, yes, but not within the sha256-ASIC-chains, hence are not paid to sha256-ASIC mining operators.

BTC > build $-fiat-reserves > BTC-support-$uno-minium-BTC-drawdown-level  [As the wheel turns BTC bullish]
$uno/USDT/etc > drawdown > $-payment for mining costs  [When the wheel spins BTC bearish]

ie
Store $UNO sell BTC in the Bull
Store BTC sell $UNO in the Bear

The magic is maximizing ROI  Wink  that is for sha256-ASIC-industry and their fund managers to calculate.

Right now, it is to the street level investor (whom lacks an ASIC factory) to get ahead of the game and to bring this concept to the table.

It is..

vs. the guys that built $uno with these



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January 12, 2019, 12:03:31 PM
Last edit: January 12, 2019, 12:13:55 PM by four3200
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Since it's on my mind.  A few more thoughts on suggested projects for 2019.

$UNO needs to up-date the white paper since that seems to be a key necessity of project evaluation.

I would suggest we have several briefs.

WHITE PAPER ONE
"UNO the network"

Strict definition of the UNO codex and fundamentals.  Basically the BTC white paper plus AUX pow.  Authored by the core devs for the core devs.

WHITE PAPER TWO
"UNO the Store of Value for ASIC miners (And for wise Investors)"

See above, someone with technical writing skills and understanding of economics please apply, certainly a bounty to be earned.

WHITE PAPER THREE
"UNO for the Common Investors"

Would address building the layers on top of Core, namely that which is built on BTC can be built on UNO, if needed or wanted.  I would suggest current goal of building the DEX layer, see BLOCK and KOMODO and Square projects.  But this paper also reinforces the conservative consensus of UNO community that HFs are a kind of heresy and the Code is the Law.  And this paper highlights Classic Cryptos, which UNO is a proud and surviving member of the Dawn of the ALTsTM.

PAPER FOUR
"Road Maps"

We ought publish annual roadmaps for formal release.  Which UNO community already does informally, and with a solid track record of meeting goals.  Just review the last 777 pages.

AFAIK
GitHub repo
https://github.com/unobtanium-official/Unobtanium

Is the current white paper

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January 12, 2019, 03:32:16 PM
Last edit: January 12, 2019, 04:08:42 PM by four3200
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Final Remarks; "The Types of $UNO investors"

I. Producers
sha256-ASIC-industry, aka BitMain F2 Inc (future production), saavy AUX pool-ops (present production), stickmen who sacrificed mining BTC in favor of UNO pre-AUX-code (past production).  Guess what they are invested in?  (hint: not $, not btc, not uno)

II.  Investors BTC
Sold BTC to buy UNO (but investor dilemma) will dump to gain more BTC.

III.  Investor UNO
Sells UNO buys BTC/LTC/etc to act as reserve for gaining more UNO kgs.

iV.  Investor $usd-fiat
Sells expensive BTC to buy cheap UNO, and vis-versa, profit measured in fiat.

All 4 types sell off BTC at the market $ top.
Producers hold UNO, except at bottom of btc bear cycle.  They are invested in hardware.
Investors BTC sell UNO at start of btc bull.
Investors UNO sell UNO when UNO stands at top of various base currencies, liquid stores of fat reserves, for the various inverse tops of said base markets.
Investor Fiat buys UNO at the top of btc-to-$ markets and sells UNO at bottom of btc bear cycle.


Investor Level FIVE

Hedges, UNO allows them to go fiat without trust in centralized peg (Bitfinex, Gemini, circle).  In this manner UNO is an operational instrument compared to vaporware GNO.  "Crowd Sourced Futures".  Action in $UNO is preindicative of BTC/$/LTC/ETH direction.

UNO already behaves in this manner, for those wise to pay notice.

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January 12, 2019, 05:42:09 PM
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Immense head & shoulder (inverse) technical pattern forming on UNO/BTC. Couple more months of horizontal trading plus a bit of a dip would complete it bootifully. Hashrate also at ATH.

Possible phenomenal year in store for UNO

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January 15, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
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looks like we got that dip Cry
thanks to exchange hack

other stuff
https://medium.com/altcoin-magazine/merged-mining-how-dual-mining-of-cryptocurrencies-works-98323ea57529

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January 15, 2019, 01:33:50 PM
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Very bad news from Cryptopia


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Got Goxxed Again?
Time to make UNO shine @ BISQ.
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I just checked the statistics from the altcoins we added at 0.9.0:

Form 21 added coins 16 have not been traded at all. From the remaining 5 there are 2 which are traded with some serious volume. Bitcoin Rhodium stands out and is number 2 from trade volume now after Monero!

Bitcoin Rhodium (XRC): Trade amount: 285.8099 BTC, number of trades: 430
Dragonglass (DRGL): Trade amount: 0.0192 BTC, number of trades: 16
Chaucha (CHA): Trade amount: 0.002 BTC, number of trades: 2
TurtleCoin (TRTL): Trade amount: 0.0013 BTC, number of trades: 1
Neos (NEOS): Trade amount: 0.008 BTC, number of trades: 1

Here are all other traded coins from last 3 months trade stats:
01coin (ZOC): Trade amount: 0.0152 BTC, number of trades: 9
Byte (GBYTE): Trade amount: 0.11 BTC, number of trades: 2
Counterparty (XCP): Trade amount: 0.025 BTC, number of trades: 1
Dash (DASH): Trade amount: 24.1029 BTC, number of trades: 36
Decred (DCR): Trade amount: 0.3124 BTC, number of trades: 5
Dogecoin (DOGE): Trade amount: 0.736 BTC, number of trades: 9
Ether (ETH): Trade amount: 8.1991 BTC, number of trades: 20
Ether Classic (ETC): Trade amount: 2.0357 BTC, number of trades: 4
Gridcoin (GRC): Trade amount: 0.0717 BTC, number of trades: 4
Horizen (ZEN): Trade amount: 0.8643 BTC, number of trades: 8
Litecoin (LTC): Trade amount: 3.3923 BTC, number of trades: 24
Monero (XMR): Trade amount: 4038.5659 BTC, number of trades: 4577
Namecoin (NMC): Trade amount: 1.07 BTC, number of trades: 5
PIVX (PIVX): Trade amount: 0.338 BTC, number of trades: 4
Siafund (SF): Trade amount: 12.549 BTC, number of trades: 12
Spectrecoin (XSPEC): Trade amount: 0.8526 BTC, number of trades: 9
Unobtanium (UNO): Trade amount: 0.0517 BTC, number of trades: 5
Zcash (ZEC): Trade amount: 5.2775 BTC, number of trades: 10
Zcoin (XZC): Trade amount: 0.40 BTC, number of trades: 4

Overall it shows us that effort in adding new altcoins should be limited as 90% are not interested at all to get traded on Bisq. I hope once we have the BSQ fee in place we get less spammed with such.

Bitcoin Clashic will get removed as it was not traded in the last 3 months.
https://bisq.community/t/traded-altcoins-since-0-9/6874
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