REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations

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Since Flying Hellfish can't engage in an actual debate without being able silence ideas he disagrees with, I thought I would post my replies to comments here as he deleted them. Perhaps people can engage in an actual debate this way, and not just have some childish club where leftists stand around and reassure each other of their correctitude, normalizing increasingly erratic behavior.

I am sure you would prefer the whole internet be sanitized from ideas you dislike like they do on Facebook and Twitter, but most of us don't...

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Trump really is a big baby LOL!

You know, a lot of people have been saying the same thing about Democrats since 2016 when they refused to accept the results of the election. To this day they maintain that it was done in some other way than legally, yet have presented no evidence of this for years as more and more accusations pile up, but the spot where the evidence goes is still empty.

Once again another clear cut example of the left accusing their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, right out of Rules For Radicals. FYI I look forward to you deleting this in a fit over having your opinions challenged

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Trump and all the Nazi white identity pieces of shit made me leave the right and turn into a staunch globalist. You don't even need AI, a Roomba could govern better than the Donald.

I agree with a lot of what you said in your previous post, in spite of it being a bit rambling and disjointed.

One question for you, lets say for the sake of argument Trump is this Nazi you think he is. Which do you think is more vulnerable to being exploited to negative effect? A single nation or the entire global government? I mean to me... it kind of seems like a global government shouldn't exist for the simple reason that it will instantly become an unaccountable layer providing systemic unaccountability for those that run it, as well as making the number of people being needed to subvert this government even smaller.

I mean this is the Bitcoin forums... aren't we all convinced that decentralization is important yet? It only seems logical localities rule over their own lives, if only to prevent some inevitably tyrannical global level government.

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1. We should require internet ID for all services. If you want free speech we should at least know who you are. Barring that, at least make the ID private. Civility happens because people don't wanna be shot or beat up. If half the shit said on the web was said IRL people wouldn't like it much. It's giving power to groups to play identity politics and accumulate followers. AI driven fake news is a problem. I don't think speech should be banned and we should only see PC crap, just we should be able to ridicule the hell out of someone and be held accountable. The white identity people, the flat Earth society, conspiracy types, etc is nonsense, and we need to be able to at least vote it down to irrelevance without some special interest group with a bunch of AI doing it for us.

2. Fred Trump was in the KKK.

3. I didn't say it had to be human. I believe humans are incapable of managing themselves. The cybernetics people mid 20th century make Marx and Hayek look like school children. We never fully went head first into a cybernetic led society. The first to ever try was Chile by the socialist government and it worked so well it was destroyed when they fell. It was using 60s archaic mainframes! Lol.

https://youtu.be/wx26zpPg884

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1. We should require internet ID for all services. If you want free speech we should at least know who you are. Barring that, at least make the ID private. Civility happens because people don't wanna be shot or beat up. If half the shit said on the web was said IRL people wouldn't like it much. It's giving power to groups to play identity politics and accumulate followers. AI driven fake news is a problem. I don't think speech should be banned and we should only see PC crap, just we should be able to ridicule the hell out of someone and be held accountable. The white identity people, the flat Earth society, conspiracy types, etc is nonsense, and we need to be able to at least vote it down to irrelevance without some special interest group with a bunch of AI doing it for us.

2. Fred Trump was in the KKK.

3. I didn't say it had to be human. I believe humans are incapable of managing themselves. The cybernetics people mid 20th century make Marx and Hayek look like school children. We never fully went head first into a cybernetic led society. The first to ever try was Chile by the socialist government and it worked so well it was destroyed when they fell. It was using 60s archaic mainframes! Lol.

https://youtu.be/wx26zpPg884

1. So what happens when dictators or tyrannical governments take control of those systems? If you need government approval to speak, is it really a right any more? That is a nice convenient list of people to round up for the gulags. Anonymity is critical to the free flow of information.


2. Pure speculation based on a single article from 1927.

"the Times account simply names Fred Trump as one of the seven individuals arrested at the rally, and it states that he was released without charges, leaving room for the possibility that he "may have been an innocent bystander, falsely named, or otherwise the victim of mistaken identity during or following a chaotic event." "

 Also are people responsible for their parents?


3. Uhhuh... you have fun with your trans-humanist technocratic communist utopia stories.

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If this stretching is a campaign finance violation, then what exactly are the millions of dollars worth of in kind free advertising given to Democrats by censoring Republican voices and candidates from social media like Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube? Just a nice little coincidence?

Whataboutism at it's finest.  Get some lawyers, Republican state AG's and some legal statutes to investigate and prosecute such violations.  Feel free to start a topic about the injustice!

The topic being discussed is Trump and his cronies specific violations, Cohen plead guilty to 2 of them!  The other evidence presented also suggest Trump was not only complicit but in fact was directing it all.

Not at all whataboutism. What is is, is a clear demonstration, yet again, of the endless double standards of the left. Trump uses his own money to do something perfectly legal and it is a "campaign finance violation", but the democrats censor millions of conservatives over social media for no charge, and allow Democrat talking points to get thru and none of you care. You don't think that is worth a lot of money? Oh but a stripper! No one cares.

You don't care about election integrity or campaign finance, you care you can potentially use this talking point to attack your enemy. You don't have standards, you have vendettas. You don't have truths you have lies. You don't build things, you destroy them. Then you wonder why the world is starting to react to the left like a cancer, pushing it out. The left has been in control a LONG time, and you failed. Stop acting like this is some kind of coup, the American people told you to GTFO, not the Russian people. Until you realize that have fun pretending to be a victim and a winner at the same time.

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If this stretching is a campaign finance violation, then what exactly are the millions of dollars worth of in kind free advertising given to Democrats by censoring Republican voices and candidates from social media like Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube? Just a nice little coincidence?

Whataboutism at it's finest.  Get some lawyers, Republican state AG's and some legal statutes to investigate and prosecute such violations.  Feel free to start a topic about the injustice!

The topic being discussed is Trump and his cronies specific violations, Cohen plead guilty to 2 of them!  The other evidence presented also suggest Trump was not only complicit but in fact was directing it all.

Not at all whataboutism. What is is, is a clear demonstration, yet again, of the endless double standards of the left. Trump uses his own money to do something perfectly legal and it is a "campaign finance violation", but the democrats censor millions of conservatives over social media for no charge, and allow Democrat talking points to get thru and none of you care. You don't think that is worth a lot of money? Oh but a stripper! No one cares.

You don't care about election integrity or campaign finance, you care you can potentially use this talking point to attack your enemy. You don't have standards, you have vendettas. You don't have truths you have lies. You don't build things, you destroy them. Then you wonder why the world is starting to react to the left like a cancer, pushing it out. The left has been in control a LONG time, and you failed. Stop acting like this is some kind of coup, the American people told you to GTFO, not the Russian people. Until you realize that have fun pretending to be a victim and a winner at the same time.

Actually it's a very weak legal argument that it was a "campaign finance violation," because as you note it was his own money. But these people don't care, because that's a fact that does not support the narrative.

Also, it came out during the campaign that Trump had had some girls, and nobody cared, so in a practical sense, I fail to see where anything material was even covered up. But again, they don't care about such facts.

It's really all about repeating the lies over and over for years, trying the make them become true.

[Beerwizzard]

1. We should require internet ID for all services. If you want free speech we should at least know who you are.

Now, at the times when you can lose your job, friends, social status or even get falsely accused and get in jail for your political sights, this is one of the most retarded things that could be done.
Maybe Flying Hellfish made a self-moderated thread because he wants to know who you are?

Trump uses his own money to do something perfectly legal and it is a "campaign finance violation", but the democrats censor millions of conservatives over social media for no charge, and allow Democrat talking points to get thru and none of you care. You don't think that is worth a lot of money? Oh but a stripper! No one cares.

Most of the social media always were controlled by leftist democrats.
That seems like everyone who stands against them is rasist / sexist / troll / russian bot etc. and not deserved to talk. We can even see it on this forum. So classic.

[Waradlain]

Now, at the times when you can lose your job, friends, social status or even get falsely accused and get in jail for your political sights, this is one of the most retarded things that could be done.

I will assume that you don't live in Russia, so you definitely have no risk of being arrested for your political beliefs.
Unless you express them in some unusual way

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I thought you were talking about Obama.

You're right, what was I thinking. It's 2010 and Obama is being investigated for all those times he put the wrong condiment on a burger.

I blame FHF for the misleading thread title. Who's Trump?

What investigations?

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I thought you were talking about Obama.

You're right, what was I thinking. It's 2010 and Obama is being investigated for all those times he put the wrong condiment on a burger.

I blame FHF for the misleading thread title. Who's Trump?

What investigations?

TECSHARE being retarded again gets removed. Water is wet.

Rofl, get over yourself you fucking assclown.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065043.msg47832891#msg47832891

right fucking there you lazy sod. your level of shit posts revival fucking indian signature spammers.

https://www.axios.com/2018-midterm-elections-house-democrats-investigations-6bcfabb1-f1b2-49ce-8014-3e9b0c30db6c.html

^^^ Right fucking there cause I doubt you understand how to click links

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right fucking there you lazy sod. your level of shit posts revival fucking indian signature spammers.

https://www.axios.com/2018-midterm-elections-house-democrats-investigations-6bcfabb1-f1b2-49ce-8014-3e9b0c30db6c.html

^^^ Right fucking there cause I doubt you understand how to click links

Hey, dude. Look at the exchange carefully. Let me summary it.

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Spendulus:  I thought you were talking about Obama.

Suchmoon: You're right, what was I thinking. It's 2010 and Obama is being investigated for all those times he put the wrong condiment on a burger.

I blame FHF for the misleading thread title. Who's Trump?

Techshare: What investigations?

That's called...people joking around....

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Actually I was just asking a simple question. He referred to Obama investigations as if they were a common occurrence. What investigations?

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They're not going to try to impeach him, that would literally be political suicide for this new house. I mean go ahead -- but that's a dumb idea without any evidence/grounds to impeach him on.

I'll just go ahead and assume, Trump's own DOJ naming the POTUS a multiple felon isn't a reason to impeach him right?  I mean who cares it's just a little campaign finance felony right?

Trump is literally the most impeachable POTUS in American history and the liberal cucks are more scared of the political hit than getting a fucking criminal out of the WH...

The dems are just waiting until January. The minority doesn't have the power to impeach. GOP would just block the vote entirely.

No kidding eh?...

The DOJ has called their own POTUS a multiple felon and the liberal cucks are still saying well we need to wait for Mueller.  No one know's how long Mueller is from finishing up...  Stone, Corsi, Ivanka, Jr and who ever else, we still have no info from Mueller on these people so it could be X-mas 2019 still waiting for Baby Jesus Mueller, while a named multiple felon sits in the WH and the dems do fuck all cause scurred.  The dude is named as a multiple FELON, could you imagine the uproar from the right if ANY democratic president was a DOJ named FELON... 

The dems are a bunch of pussies they should be fighting tooth and nail Jan 4th to do the right thing and get a criminal out of the WH...  They have a constitutional duty to check and balance the executive branch and they need to get this out in the open, Americans deserve to know what in the actual fuck is going on.  It's the only way the dems have a chance of turning his base against him is to just dump an overwhelming amount of evidence on them.

Now that Trump is a DOJ named FELON there is no need for 1753 committee investigations just open the one big one and let the people know if this pussy grabber is guilty of at least these felons or not. 

They should have about 312 articles of impeachment ready to go by now!

Just goes to show you don't have any idea how the legal system here works but are ready to claim authority and knowledge of the process all day to support your opinions, because having strong opinions is all that matters right?

You say "Trump is a DOJ named FELON", but the DOJ doesn't just get to declare people criminals. Especially since the DOJ is part of the executive branch, of which Trump is the head of. It would be like a regional manager of McDonalds telling the CEO he is now in charge.

You said yourself he is not convicted of anything. Without conviction, or at least some matter of fact hard evidence you are advocating we unseat a sitting president? Could it be perhaps maybe that YOU were the one who was wrong, and he is in fact the one resisting the coup? Nah, everyone knows you are never wrong. That's what the mod button is for

[Spendulus]

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Just goes to show you don't have any idea how the legal system here works but are ready to claim authority and knowledge of the process all day to support your opinions, because having strong opinions is all that matters right?
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You will get no answer to that, except another wild and bizarre statement. But look, it's frikking cold in Canada and I hear the weed is strong. It's like we need a thread for weird and crazy shit minus facts minus reality. No, wait, that's what we got. Damn.

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Didnt the fake news got caught lying again about Trump?

No, but what does that have to do with the evidence provided by the OSC in the form of a 7 count indictment of another person in Trumps personal orbit (for 30 years).

If you take a few minutes and read the actual indictment you can see the indictment is not based on the "fake media" but instead actual honest to goodness real emails, texts, tweets, testimony and more actual evidence.

There is a lot more coming this is just the tip of the iceberg, if you can't see the ladder Mueller is climbing you probably aren't looking objectively at things.

People have been saying the tip of the iceberg for 2 years now...

You don't get to put a timeline on it, it will take as long as it takes.  How long did Ken Starr's investigation go on?  How long do criminal investigations take?  In those 2 years several of Trumps very close contacts have been charged and or pleaded guilty to felonies involving the core of the OSC's investigation.

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Great... lets say it takes 10,000 years. At what point will this investigation produce evidence of collusion? The standard operating procedure is to have evidence FIRST before starting an investigation, especially of this scale and impact, yet here we are years later, not a drop of evidence of Russian collusion... but plenty of lynching of Trumps political allies with manufactured process crimes, gestapo tactics, and lawfare. Their primary tactic is to drain their targets of resources so they can not mount a legal defense in order to force them into a choice of destitution and prison or lying to help them build a fraudulent case.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-25/former-trump-advisor-roger-stone-arrested-florida

You are a chump if you think this man is going to "flip" (read bear false witness). They have been abusing him for years. I have a feeling he'd rather die first.

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Oh don't you worry about that, he most certainly will have four more years

Just like the dems wouldn't win 40 seats in the house right?

Don't be mad because you don't really believe the claims you make. You made the claim, all I did was tell you to put your money where your mouth is and you pussed out by trying to modify the terms because again, you don't actually believe what you say, you just think the ends justify the means.

Really is a shame you need to censor responses to make yourself look more clever than you really are...

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What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

What about it, as far as I know, not a single person involved in this has been nor have any of them even suggested that they were incarcerated or convicted without due process?

Innocent until proven guilty is not a defense to accusations, it's a right you have to not be convicted and punished without due process.

You and other liberals considered him guilty since day 1 which also made this whole investigation extremely bias against trump no matter what, even after a ton of fake news and evidence was proven to be, well, fake.

Not to mention the FBI trying to find any straw to gasp for to prosecute him or his supporters is the same FBI implicated in the same crimes they accuse him of, well before any accusations were ever made against Trump. It is amazing how much of the argument of the left relies on "NO U!"

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Except these are all manufactured process crimes designed for the sole purpose of political optics, CYA, and punishing those that dare support Trump to send a message dissent will not be tolerated. I know you don't realize it yet, but you are the baddies.

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Though, shouldn't we consider everyone innocent until proven guility? I'd hate to live in a world where everyone has to prove themselves innocent.

The sword cuts both ways buddy <3

Innocent until proven guilty is not a defense to accusations, it's a right you have to not be convicted and punished without due process.

When Trump or an ally of his is convicted without due process you can scream innocent until proven guilty and you will have a lot of support.  Innocent until proven guilty does not mean accusations can not be leveled and it is not a defense once allegations are made.

An accusation is still not evidence of anything either. Why is it no one can produce any evidence of Russian collusion?

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Though, shouldn't we consider everyone innocent until proven guility? I'd hate to live in a world where everyone has to prove themselves innocent.

The sword cuts both ways buddy <3

Innocent until proven guilty is not a defense to accusations, it's a right you have to not be convicted and punished without due process.

When Trump or an ally of his is convicted without due process you can scream innocent until proven guilty and you will have a lot of support.  Innocent until proven guilty does not mean accusations can not be leveled and it is not a defense once allegations are made.

Well, not really. For instance if I accuse you of raping me right now, you are considered innocent and it is a defense, you don't have to prove you didn't rape me, I have to prove you raped me.

Careful, he is touchy about that one.

[Spendulus]

I'm going ahead and posting it here BEFORE Flying_H deletes it in the other thread.

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on December 18, 2018, 11:47:22 AM
Bye Bye Trump foundation!

Trump foundation agrees to shut down in response to a civil suit from NY AG!!!  Of particular note the suit continues and is seeking millions in damages along with blocking The crooked pussy grabber and his 3 retarded adult off spring from serving on any non profit board again!

Civil suits are not tied to criminal investigations.  What a crooked piece of shit, using charity money for himself.

“Our petition detailed a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation — including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more,” Underwood said in a statement. “This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/donald-trump-foundation-shut-down_us_5c191a2ee4b02d2cae8da4bb

Trump's life:  Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, FOLD and claim victory.

Only the most simple of Trumpians can still deny the POTUS is a life long criminal.

Tipping point is incoming, the big blue investigatory orgy hasn't even started yet.

Trump is about to fold on his ownage of the Trump shutdown!  What kind of a retard owns a shutdown days before the holidays, he can't even get a rounding error amount of funding for his wall hehe!
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Trump's NSA, General Flynn is in court and the judge asked the SCO if they could have charged Flynn with Treason, the judge told Flynn he arguably sold out his country.  Trump sure know's how to pick the stupidest criminals to fill his orbit!
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My response...
This post and others of yours is indicative of the problem, not the solution. It's a childish vindictiveness and mob groupthink.

[Astargath]

Problem is that he already made up his mind long ago, he considers trump guilty no matter what, look at the way he writes, things like ''well this investigation could take 4 more years, that's why he isn't convicted yet'' For me 2 years of investigation with virtually no results means most of the accusations against trump are bullshit, not saying that he is 100% not guilty but the more time passes the more innocent he looks, of course hellfish doesn't see it that way.