HODL'ers lose. That is no surprise

[bozo333]

What makes you think you have lost? If you have 1 BTC even BTC is $100 you have still 1 BTC. You have to think BTC as gold. Actually BTC is gold, future gold.

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There is no meaning for your post in my knowledge. What you are trying to say actually?

Holding bitcoin is not a loose for anyone if you think it a long term investment, we need to check the market value growth by using the price chart available. When there is growth or any signals you find means you can rock for sure. Always bitcoin has the future growth.

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[Eric Cartman]

"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Has anything in history ever gone to the moon?

[ There is actually a name for the hysteria that BITCOIN saw in 2017, its called a parabolic rise, and they all end the same, in collapse. ]

Has it ever been easy for morons to get rich?

Has anyone ever seen a 'rich moron'? A rich Idiot? A rich fool? They simply don't exist in the real-world.

In the entire history of investing have you ever heard a trading-genius to say "HODL"? What they say is buy-low, sell-high, and cut your losses, and let your profits run.

BTC has defied 5,000 years of human investing is the outcome any surprise? That a bunch of newb kids have lost their ass, thinking that this generation was 'different'?

I really think most commenters and posters here are bot's, if you look at the low content, and especially if you post links the there is no context, one classic tell-tale of a bot is they never read the links, just respond based on text in the comment.

The exchanges need fresh blood new suckers to pump&dump Bitcoin, sadly BTC has had its day in the sun, you don't lose $250 Billion USD in capitalization and shug that kind of stuff off, the simple fact, is who the hell is going to step in and BUY this virtual crap?

It's a fitting end, BITCOIN is what it is, and it will stick around, it will find a mean reversion base value that will settle in, eventually the get-rich-quick crowd will move-on and pimp something else to a new generation of suckers.


I like the fact that the speculators get washed out, then BTC can revert to what it was originally intended just a way for people to transmit money,

I think Warren Buffet strategy is find companies that have good fundamentals and are still undervalued then hold it until the prices skyrocket. Worked for him and works for Bitcoin, the fundamentals are stronger than ever, that's what matter, not the price or the price falls.

Anyone that panic sold at the bottom lost a lot, just compare the price now with  the price when this thread has been created.

[doomistake]

They didn't lose anything, they just lost the chance of earning big profits last 2017 but their bitcoins and altcoins remains in their wallets.

Let me italicize it for you. In short, you still lose — you lose time and opportunity . Don't get me wrong, I know what you mean and I agree to you somehow. What I'm only pointing is that hodling for too long is no longer healthy and safe. You should learn to exit the market as well. There should be balance, if you know to buy and hold then of course you should also know how to sell. IMO, it's not mecessary to hold for couple of years to earn. Just set a target price (not too large and not too small) where you can already earn a decent amount of profit and wait for the right timing.

I'm going to add some things that you are missing here. Not all of the hodler's buy their coins, there is this "Bounties (altcoins)" thread where all of us could earn altcoins to use it on Trading or hold it(optional) not all of the bounty hunters knows how to Trade, and hodling your coins in your wallet is a choice, because just like what I've said, not all of the people who hodls their coins know how to trade, guess that is the reason why they are just hodling, it is hard to trade when you don't know how to trade.

Just set a target price (not too large and not too small) where you can already earn a decent amount of profit and wait for the right timing.

EXACTLY! this is the other reason why other hodlers hold their coins, they are waiting for the right timing that will meet the price they wanted to earn decent amount of money.

[bellicose]

It is only at this stage that the holders lose their funds. Have you thought about those who bought or mined bitcoin in 2011? When I found out about mining, my friend mine 0.5 bitcoin in 48 hours on four AMD video cards. Just think what will happen in 5 years and if Bitcoin will go up in price, my answer is obvious - yes.

[bitbunnny]

That opinion is obviously from someone who is involved in Bitcoin very short period of time and doesn't know much about it. Holding is something that is profitable for long term and by long term I don't mean 6 months or so. Besides, not all holders got their Bitcoin on the sane way, sone are buying, some are earning so making general conclusions about holders is not good.

[romero121]

That opinion is obviously from someone who is involved in Bitcoin very short period of time and doesn't know much about it. Holding is something that is profitable for long term and by long term I don't mean 6 months or so. Besides, not all holders got their Bitcoin on the sane way, sone are buying, some are earning so making general conclusions about holders is not good.

Very few understand better about holding and act keep the assets secure with long-term focus. As in the quote it isn't just six months or few more months of holding. An American institution took a research on holding, from that the minimum time period mentioned was 5 years. It is always good to keep for long term profiting, by the same time it is a must to act instantly if the growth has taken place good before the targeted period of hodling. If we miss such opportunities it needs more time to achieve the same again.

[sarabanda]

That is good lesson for altcoin holders and for me too. I will never hold any altcoin again but will sell immediattely after release.

[Sithara007]

Bitcoin holders in the long run cannot be said to be a loss unless bitcoin is no longer traded. Even if the price of bitcoin goes down and the value of the portfolio of bitcoin investors doesn't mean they lose because they haven't liquidated it.

Most of the cryptocurrency users won't be in a financial state to indefinitely hold on to their coins. They need to pay their bills and take care of other expenses. IMO, less than half of all the users may afford to hold for long-term (greater than 3 years). I have sold a lot of my coins when the prices were very low. But I don't regret about it now. Back then I needed money, and I had to sell my assets. I had the option of selling my equities instead, but opted for crypto, as more than 80% of my portfolio was composed of Bitcoin.

[Anegg]

Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong, we will never know the answer until bitcoin is in the ground and dead forever.

Those who strongly believe in Bitcoin will continue to hold for as long as possible, those with a weak stomach will instantly sell out of fear as soon as they see the price declining, it's just how the world works.

Bitcoin has experienced huge price corrections and will continue to do so. The most basic economic principle of buying low and selling high applies majorly in the case of Bitcoin, those who understand this will profit majorly and those who don't will be left out. 

[Lmaooo]

"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

I kinda agree with this guy because the cryptocurrency market is full of pumps and dumps. Once your coin got pumped enough to the level where you double your investment the best thing to do is getting out. Bitcoin can't get to $1m by 2020 - So, it is a good idea to cash out when you get profits, period.   

[hahahafr]

hahaha..not to sound heartless but i think OP just got rekt in some margin trading game or something. Lol, it's so funny when i see people come and rant about the crash of bitcoin anytime their trades fail. Dude these statements have been made over a decade yet we are still thriving. Learn the game and stop this FUD!

[VictorBit23]

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Now the trading information now is to invest on bitcoin and altcoin and hodl it, so as not to miss out when the bull run starts. So many individuals thought that the era of cryptocurrency has gone, but bitcoin proves them all wrong this year. Bitcoin will always be ttrading as far as I'm concerned

How can I get started with cryptocurrency on the phone? What do you need to know for this and where to learn it?

[Paecga129]

Holders don't lose we win. Holding cryptocurrency has been a winning strategy ever since its inception.

[bounceback]

if I hear my holder remind me of my own fate in the past few months, I have held one of the coins whose price is not clear, I ended up losing a little capital from that coin, from that incident I never again held a coin whose price is unclear so my advice for friends who like to hold coins, you can only hold bitcoin because in my opinion the price of bitcoin is always stable in the market.

[alexsandria]

Wow! So much hate! Do you know really what is hodling? People that were only get curious in bitcoin because of the bull run has the same thinking, they think that there will be a time where the value if bitcoin will continue to rise up, which is rare. True hodlers know that it isn't true, and they know when to sell and when to buy. It doesn't mean that if we didn't recover to the bitcoin's peak value then the hodlers lose.

[sureshverma]

Keep a few bitcoins in reserve is always profitable, I would not agree with you that they lose

[owengtam09]

Wow! So much hate! Do you know really what is hodling? People that were only get curious in bitcoin because of the bull run has the same thinking, they think that there will be a time where the value if bitcoin will continue to rise up, which is rare. True hodlers know that it isn't true, and they know when to sell and when to buy. It doesn't mean that if we didn't recover to the bitcoin's peak value then the hodlers lose.

Maybe he is telling that most holders that he knows are losers. Because maybe they don't know and did not estimate when did the price goes down. I know someone that is already a long-time holder, and he already got a chance to have withdrawn what he profited last 2017 when the ATH's happened, but he got greedy and still wait for the price to increase more because he thinks he will get more, the thing is, he doesn't withdraw anything, so his chance gone.

[coin-investor]

"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

There is no one general rule in any given year in Cryptocurrency, what happens in 2017 is very much different in 2018 and what happened in 2018 is different from what we have this year right now, and next year is also different, but you don't have to use the word stupid or blind if investors cannot grasp the situation in any given year, there's no applicable situation every year, each year present a different perspective.

[Dabs]

Anyone who has held any bitcoin longer than 5 years has made some profits. The longer the time horizon (more than 5 year) the better chances you don't lose.

The same is true with the general stock market indexes. Put some in the S&P 500, wait 5 to 10 years, you'll come out ahead.

[Xxmodded]

Holder can take make profit not become loser, check how many altcoin kinds raise up more than 300% after holding about one or two years, check how many time many holder altcoin or bitcoin take profit higher than short term investor with take less profit every day. Now you have an option which one do you want to adopt for your investment.