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October 09, 2019, 03:41:24 PM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

There is no one general rule in any given year in Cryptocurrency, what happens in 2017 is very much different in 2018 and what happened in 2018 is different from what we have this year right now, and next year is also different, but you don't have to use the word stupid or blind if investors cannot grasp the situation in any given year, there's no applicable situation every year, each year present a different perspective.
It’s just that the situation with cryptocurrency is changing a lot. However, we need to keep in mind that cryptocurrency continues to improve. What is not done is done for the better. The period of chaos is passing, perhaps we will not get too much profit, but it will become more stable over time. New types of cryptocurrencies can still be unpredictably profitable.
Cryptocurrency is generally useful for humanity, as it provides us with new opportunities and amenities. Therefore, it must exist for a very long time.
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October 09, 2019, 04:29:12 PM
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Anyone who has held any bitcoin longer than 5 years has made some profits. The longer the time horizon (more than 5 year) the better chances you don't lose.

The same is true with the general stock market indexes. Put some in the S&P 500, wait 5 to 10 years, you'll come out ahead.

Correct, the longer time you spend in waiting, the many chances you could have to decide what are you going to do, would you sell or still hold. Taking your time is the key to meet your expectations to avoid disappointments, missing a chance to sell your bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is not a problem, the problem is if you will be impatient on waiting for your right turn to make profits.
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October 09, 2019, 04:49:04 PM
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Holding any cryptocurrency might be a big problem if you see it in a short span investment. For long-term University it will not cause any problem and they will keep some funds for the safety in stable currencies or or somewhere in their banks.
People holding tokens and cheap rate altcoins will feel for barely.
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October 10, 2019, 02:31:31 PM
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Anyone who has held any bitcoin longer than 5 years has made some profits. The longer the time horizon (more than 5 year) the better chances you don't lose.

The same is true with the general stock market indexes. Put some in the S&P 500, wait 5 to 10 years, you'll come out ahead.

Correct, the longer time you spend in waiting, the many chances you could have to decide what are you going to do, would you sell or still hold. Taking your time is the key to meet your expectations to avoid disappointments, missing a chance to sell your bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is not a problem, the problem is if you will be impatient on waiting for your right turn to make profits.

Absolutely. As we all know bitcoin investment is risky so we must be prepared for any disaster that may bring. All we need to do in order for us not be able to lose big amount of money is not to do panic selling because that's the decision in not good when it comes to crypto investing. That is a very long time to wait 5-10 years but I think that is worth it to wait. Just like you are investing and then forget for a while and the most important thing is store at the safe place that nobody knows or someone whom you can trust with the private key of the wallet.

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October 10, 2019, 03:59:48 PM
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Anyone who has held any bitcoin longer than 5 years has made some profits. The longer the time horizon (more than 5 year) the better chances you don't lose.

The same is true with the general stock market indexes. Put some in the S&P 500, wait 5 to 10 years, you'll come out ahead.

Correct, the longer time you spend in waiting, the many chances you could have to decide what are you going to do, would you sell or still hold. Taking your time is the key to meet your expectations to avoid disappointments, missing a chance to sell your bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is not a problem, the problem is if you will be impatient on waiting for your right turn to make profits.

Absolutely. As we all know bitcoin investment is risky so we must be prepared for any disaster that may bring. All we need to do in order for us not be able to lose big amount of money is not to do panic selling because that's the decision in not good when it comes to crypto investing. That is a very long time to wait 5-10 years but I think that is worth it to wait. Just like you are investing and then forget for a while and the most important thing is store at the safe place that nobody knows or someone whom you can trust with the private key of the wallet.
I am sure that every year the participants in the cryptocurrency market will be more restrained and there will not be as much fear or panic as they are now. Time teaches people in the cryptocurrency market too. I think that in the future, Bitcoin will be an even more reliable asset than now.
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October 10, 2019, 04:13:26 PM
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The biggest Exchanges according to: https://twitter.com/thetokenanalyst/status/1181618606649548800

they are the great Hodlers, it is very difficult for them to lose, in fact, since they are Exchanges they have privileged possibilities to have reasons in retaining Bitcoin, they can know in which areas are the Stop Loss, supports and resistances, they have a great advantage .

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More than Hodlers, they can be more focused on the business model that it represents, under which it always turns out to be very lucrative, not to mention that internal businesses are generated with which they list currencies offering juicy Market Makers packages thus guaranteeing profits.

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October 11, 2019, 01:30:20 AM
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Holder lose maybe is not surprise but when holder can make profit above 300% is some thing big surprise or not? I remember when first time I know about bitcoin and altcoin could be investment assets, I bought XRP with cheap price, I hold about two years and can get profit more with price of ripple reached more than 300% than I bought first.

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October 11, 2019, 02:19:11 AM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Every investor has a particular reason why he/she invest or hodl  bitcoin or cryptocurrency.  If you choose to exit now, exit in peace. The drop or rise of the market value of Bitcoin or cryptocurrency is meant to happen due to the nature of the crypto market and decentralization.  Once blockchain technology exist, there is no way cryptocurrency is gonna die....
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October 11, 2019, 06:41:21 AM
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Holders will never loss if they will remain holding, the moment they gave up holding, that's the only time they will lose.
Prior investing, we made some analysis wit the coins we choose and we believe on their potential so its not wise to dump them because the of the overall market struggle, that's a sign that we are weak and we don't fully understand the right way to invest here.
Something like the title, only want us holder to be panic. I think everyone who already invest in something should already know risk behind it. So if they hold they must be ready if get profit or lose. That thing needed to keep in people's mind so not easily to influenced by other people.

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October 14, 2019, 04:16:20 PM
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hahaha..not to sound heartless but i think OP just got rekt in some margin trading game or something. Lol, it's so funny when i see people come and rant about the crash of bitcoin anytime their trades fail. Dude these statements have been made over a decade yet we are still thriving. Learn the game and stop this FUD!
They are just trying to shift the blame, if you lose money in the markets then the only person that is to blame is yourself, but they do not want to admit it since that will require humility and to make a deep research of why they lost all their money, so they take the easy way out, they blame bitcoin or any cryptocurrency in which they invested claiming this market is a scam, this is very easy but it goes against the reality that many people have become rich by investing in cryptocurrencies so their explanation cannot be true.
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October 14, 2019, 04:31:33 PM
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Even if you get in today, buy a little bit, HODL for 5 to 10 years, I don't see how you can really call that losing. Suppose you managed to get a whole coin (to keep calculations simple), that would be worth maybe a little more than $8k. In 5 years, while no one can make any guarantees, the likelyhood would be that coin is worth at least double. So we are talking about at least 14% compound interest in capital gains.

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I want to ask since when did you get to know bitcoin, if it was only 1 or 2 years ago, of course it must have disappointed you because the price in that year continued to decline, and I think it's natural because after a significant increase of course the price will go down.
if you knew bitcoin since the beginning of the release I guess you didn't say that, because it takes time for it to develop and the price won't always go up, other commodities like that will have ups and downs.
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October 16, 2019, 10:19:37 AM
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Holding any cryptocurrency might be a big problem if you see it in a short span investment. For long-term University it will not cause any problem and they will keep some funds for the safety in stable currencies or or somewhere in their banks.
People holding tokens and cheap rate altcoins will feel for barely.
The type of cryptocurrency you are holding will determine what outcome you gonna have in future,  holding any cryptocurrency might not be a problem if you have do research on the type of coin you wanna hold,  I'm sure you know that those who holds bitcoin,  ethereum and lots of other good coins when they were relatively cheap are blaming their selves for selling quickly

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October 16, 2019, 10:46:02 AM
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Holders will never loss if they will remain holding, the moment they gave up holding, that's the only time they will lose.
Prior investing, we made some analysis wit the coins we choose and we believe on their potential so its not wise to dump them because the of the overall market struggle, that's a sign that we are weak and we don't fully understand the right way to invest here.
Something like the title, only want us holder to be panic. I think everyone who already invest in something should already know risk behind it. So if they hold they must be ready if get profit or lose. That thing needed to keep in people's mind so not easily to influenced by other people.
Bitcoin is a long term investment there shouldn't be any panic based on it price behavior of course after the ATH in 2017 many hodlers still held their coin with the hope of continual bullish of the price however the price drops thus causing panic and many dumped their coins meanwhile long term investors still held their coin hoping for turn around in its price, this year the price of bitcoin hits $13K its obvious a good sign of better days ahead in term of the price.

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October 16, 2019, 11:00:55 AM
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If you know Bitcoin from the beginning, you might not be saying that.
Because Bitcoin develops takes time. But in 2017-2018 Bitcoins experienced a rapid increase.
A holder can make a profit can also lose? Our stay analyzes it properly and correctly.

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October 16, 2019, 12:31:36 PM
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I bought @150 and @600 and hodled ever since. Not sure how I lost?
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October 16, 2019, 02:50:36 PM
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I don't think so, if you have known BTC since you first launched BTC, then you bought it, would you say that? of course not! For example if you buy BTC in 2017 when BTC is famous and touches 18,000 USD and then you hold it until now then you lose money because it lasts too long, basically bitcoin is for long term investment, not short term, if you take short term immediately you sell even if you make a little profit.
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October 16, 2019, 06:42:34 PM
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i dont think that HODL'ers lose , market do some correction , i hope everyone buy and not sell ,even if it happens that selling is more than buying like these moment for sure there is always who buy bitcoin in the end the loser is seller
That is the real fact that those who lost their hope and sold bitcoin were the loser because if they hold those bitcoin a little bit more time then they would recover their loss but unfortunately they get panic and everybody knows that panic selling is always a loss. In my case I hold my bitcoin in that panic situation so now I have recover my profit because the market is green now again and as usual the holder do not lose.

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October 16, 2019, 08:19:13 PM
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I bought @150 and @600 and hodled ever since. Not sure how I lost?
Are you trying to say that you bought bitcoin at $150 and $600  per 1 bitcoin and you did not sell at $20k??
Wow! You are truly a Hodler gang,  at least I would have taken profit at almost when bitcoin was close to $20k

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October 16, 2019, 08:28:18 PM
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Old thread but still interesting to discuss. Hodlers lose? Well, to be fair I don't like when people hold because I mention a lot of times: Money has to be in circulation, not stoned or frozen. But let's say truth: Hodling works well for getting great profit on long term. And hodling doesn't mean hold for some months (how can you blame bitcoin so quickly). What about to wait for 1-2 year? If bitcoin won't be able to recover in 2 year, then I would say you were 100% true but at the moment I can't agree with you because according to 10 years experience, hodling works.

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