Official FutureBit Apollo LTC Image and Support thread

[newpush]

As most of you know by now we are finally launching our BTC version. Pre-order starts friday and thread has been started here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314398

All the info is on our site as well at futurebit.io


To some of the comments from newer users on here that we abandoning LTC thats pure BS. I started off with the LTC community and you guys I think are the best group of people in all of crypto. We still have some cool updates scheduled for the Apollo LTC and will always support it, and have another product in dev for LTC as well.

As for the Apollo BTC that has always been a goal, and is a good thing. We have a great opportunity with an awesome ASIC partner that cares about our vision and is not charging us $10 and ASIC which is the current going rate (this product would be 1000USD + if we partnered with anyone else). We hope the larger BTC market will be able to drive even more sales so we can hire more devs to do the cool work we want to get done faster.

So yea were here to stay and always have. Im not here to chase the next coin for some profits (FutureBit has operated as a non-profit for the past 3 years and have made just enough to pay my rent and my team). Bitcoin has always been part of the plan, and Litecoin and Bitcoin have always had a symbiotic relationship (even if some Bitcoiners refuse to acknowledge that). Our success in the Bitcoin market will only drive even more innovation for LTC in the hardware space from Futurebit.

If you'd rather support some chinese company that does nothing but feed farms all day that dump BTC and LTC for USD be my guest.

Really appreciate what you do. We all need to look at the long game. If we are to protect the future of crypto, we have to make sure it stays decentralized. The way you make it easy for everyone to mine with and appliance type approach, is the way of the future. We need to get miners in the hands of everyone. Let’s hope the Reddit crowd picks this up as well.

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[devincrypt]

As most of you know by now we are finally launching our BTC version. Pre-order starts friday and thread has been started here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314398

All the info is on our site as well at futurebit.io


To some of the comments from newer users on here that we abandoning LTC thats pure BS. I started off with the LTC community and you guys I think are the best group of people in all of crypto. We still have some cool updates scheduled for the Apollo LTC and will always support it, and have another product in dev for LTC as well.

As for the Apollo BTC that has always been a goal, and is a good thing. We have a great opportunity with an awesome ASIC partner that cares about our vision and is not charging us $10 and ASIC which is the current going rate (this product would be 1000USD + if we partnered with anyone else). We hope the larger BTC market will be able to drive even more sales so we can hire more devs to do the cool work we want to get done faster.

So yea were here to stay and always have. Im not here to chase the next coin for some profits (FutureBit has operated as a non-profit for the past 3 years and have made just enough to pay my rent and my team). Bitcoin has always been part of the plan, and Litecoin and Bitcoin have always had a symbiotic relationship (even if some Bitcoiners refuse to acknowledge that). Our success in the Bitcoin market will only drive even more innovation for LTC in the hardware space from Futurebit.

If you'd rather support some chinese company that does nothing but feed farms all day that dump BTC and LTC for USD be my guest.

Do you take LTC as payment?

[jstefanop]

As most of you know by now we are finally launching our BTC version. Pre-order starts friday and thread has been started here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314398

All the info is on our site as well at futurebit.io


To some of the comments from newer users on here that we abandoning LTC thats pure BS. I started off with the LTC community and you guys I think are the best group of people in all of crypto. We still have some cool updates scheduled for the Apollo LTC and will always support it, and have another product in dev for LTC as well.

As for the Apollo BTC that has always been a goal, and is a good thing. We have a great opportunity with an awesome ASIC partner that cares about our vision and is not charging us $10 and ASIC which is the current going rate (this product would be 1000USD + if we partnered with anyone else). We hope the larger BTC market will be able to drive even more sales so we can hire more devs to do the cool work we want to get done faster.

So yea were here to stay and always have. Im not here to chase the next coin for some profits (FutureBit has operated as a non-profit for the past 3 years and have made just enough to pay my rent and my team). Bitcoin has always been part of the plan, and Litecoin and Bitcoin have always had a symbiotic relationship (even if some Bitcoiners refuse to acknowledge that). Our success in the Bitcoin market will only drive even more innovation for LTC in the hardware space from Futurebit.

If you'd rather support some chinese company that does nothing but feed farms all day that dump BTC and LTC for USD be my guest.

Really appreciate what you do. We all need to look at the long game. If we are to protect the future of crypto, we have to make sure it stays decentralized. The way you make it easy for everyone to mine with and appliance type approach, is the way of the future. We need to get miners in the hands of everyone. Let’s hope the Reddit crowd picks this up as well.

You guys need to spread the word! We dont pay for advertising, as increaseing the price of the product 20-30% does not make much sense to me to push it to people that dont even want it. Nor will I pay the crooks at coindesk to write an "article". Sadly only price headlines and new coin launches sell, not the hardware and software the runs these systems.

If we dont sell out might launch a referral system, even though that is itself a bit gimmicky for me at least all the early adopters that use the product and understand it can make a bit on referrals.

[jstefanop]

As most of you know by now we are finally launching our BTC version. Pre-order starts friday and thread has been started here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314398

All the info is on our site as well at futurebit.io


To some of the comments from newer users on here that we abandoning LTC thats pure BS. I started off with the LTC community and you guys I think are the best group of people in all of crypto. We still have some cool updates scheduled for the Apollo LTC and will always support it, and have another product in dev for LTC as well.

As for the Apollo BTC that has always been a goal, and is a good thing. We have a great opportunity with an awesome ASIC partner that cares about our vision and is not charging us $10 and ASIC which is the current going rate (this product would be 1000USD + if we partnered with anyone else). We hope the larger BTC market will be able to drive even more sales so we can hire more devs to do the cool work we want to get done faster.

So yea were here to stay and always have. Im not here to chase the next coin for some profits (FutureBit has operated as a non-profit for the past 3 years and have made just enough to pay my rent and my team). Bitcoin has always been part of the plan, and Litecoin and Bitcoin have always had a symbiotic relationship (even if some Bitcoiners refuse to acknowledge that). Our success in the Bitcoin market will only drive even more innovation for LTC in the hardware space from Futurebit.

If you'd rather support some chinese company that does nothing but feed farms all day that dump BTC and LTC for USD be my guest.

Do you take LTC as payment?

Of course, BTC LTC and ETH, plus a bunch others coinbase commerce accepts. You won't see the crypto checkout option until after you select shipping.

[Jota_US]

Yep. Fortunately mine are still working. From his website he's given up on LTC and now hocking BTC with a miner that might get the owner 0.000001 BTC in a year? After he sells all of those wonder which coin he'll move to next?

actually in turbo mode at 3.8 TH and 200 watts with 5 cent electricity it will mine profit about 55 cents per day mining 2,277 sats per day --- of course that changes with each difficulty change --- and depends on whether the user is mining pps, pplns, solo or some other variation of payout, the pools fees of course as well play a factor.

but to say it will only make .00000100 sats per year is a bit off.

that being said the price is a bit high - at the turbo speed and if profitability held even, it would be nearly 3 years to ROI

Try re-reading my post. I wasn't pricing out the LTC miners but his upcoming BTC miner:

"...and now hocking BTC with a miner that might get the owner 0.000001 BTC in a year?"

"BTC" means Bitcoin.

Maybe it's you who should try re-reading...

[philipma1957]

I am buying the full package I still have my 2 apollo ltc miners and I will now have 1 apollo btc miner.

[Jota_US]

I agree with Phil on that one - mine has hit several doge blocks but never a ltc block but it has hit dgb blocks, xvg blocks, pyrk blocks and a myriad of other alt coin blocks.

I only dont like the price for a full unit and will prolly just go with the miner without the controller and run it on the same pi my R606's run on.

Yep mine has hit several DGB blocks and even an LTC block while mining solo. Needless to say I'm very happy and already pre-ordered the BTC miner.

The fact that you can actually run it in your home is just awesome.

[AnkleBiter]

I am buying the full package I still have my 2 apollo ltc miners and I will now have 1 apollo btc miner.

Ordered one full package without power supply and 3 standard units.  Happy to support the company and looking forward to daisy chaining 4 units together. 

[bobcat2010]

Are you doing any more batches this year?

[jstefanop]

Are you doing any more batches this year?

Trying to figure out the fab situation...almost all the fabs are booked so wouldn't be able to order a new set of ASICs for these until at least summer unfortunately.

[danksmining]

How do I reset a Batch 2/3 apollo? I was given one, but my friend left it with his credentials. I want to reset to default settings. Thanks!

if you are able to log into it, you can change all that inside the control panel - you can change the PW, you can change the pool settings, if you get a copy of the fw you could wipe the sd card and reinstall it.

I’m in the same situation. Is there a way to reset the password? I am not able to login to access the control panel/dashboard to change anything. Would a new sd card offer an opportunity for reset?

[jstefanop]

How do I reset a Batch 2/3 apollo? I was given one, but my friend left it with his credentials. I want to reset to default settings. Thanks!

if you are able to log into it, you can change all that inside the control panel - you can change the PW, you can change the pool settings, if you get a copy of the fw you could wipe the sd card and reinstall it.

I’m in the same situation. Is there a way to reset the password? I am not able to login to access the control panel/dashboard to change anything. Would a new sd card offer an opportunity for reset?

There is no way to reset the password without reseting the firmware. You dont need a new SD card, just follow the instructions on the first page here to reflash your existing SD card.

[devincrypt]

Repeatedly tried to purchase a couple of BTC preorder devices from Futurebit with LTC but I keep getting the same error message. This is the first time sending LTC so I have no pending transactions. Tried using different browsers on the Futurebit side - no difference. Error code: TX-018. Tried searching the web for possible solutions but nothing. Anyone experience this error?

Mac version of JAXX - latest. Also tried on iPhone with latest JAXX.

UPDATE: Even tried to send LTC funds to an EXODUS wallet - same error.
UPDATE 2: Deleted JAXX off desktop, reinstalled - same error.

[notabeliever]

I read this if it helps

"When errors happen in the Jaxx Liberty wallet you can click on the red bar at the bottom and you get a pop-up with possible causes and solutions."

If I were you I would swipe the Jaxx wallet into ios Coinomi and Desktop version. 

[devincrypt]

I read this if it helps

"When errors happen in the Jaxx Liberty wallet you can click on the red bar at the bottom and you get a pop-up with possible causes and solutions."

If I were you I would swipe the Jaxx wallet into ios Coinomi and Desktop version.  

Moved into Coinomi using Jaxx wallet keys and it picked it right up. Thanks! Can't buy the BTC preorder units because in the time wasted with this they've all been sold. @#%##*(*(^$&%

[almartins]

One of my two apollo batch 1 after being shut down, it didn't work anymore. When turning it on, only the fan runs for 1-2 s and stops. The front led has no activity and the network card leds appear to have normal activity. I already cleaned it and tried to find any signs of damage but I can't find any.
What else can I try?

[whiteogre]

One of my two apollo batch 1 after being shut down, it didn't work anymore. When turning it on, only the fan runs for 1-2 s and stops. The front led has no activity and the network card leds appear to have normal activity. I already cleaned it and tried to find any signs of damage but I can't find any.
What else can I try?

That front led is software controlled. It showing no activity suggests that the system doesn't boot at all or not correctly at least. In that situations your options are somewhat limited:

Option 1) Re-flash the sd card. In many cases that appears to help.

Option 2) Flash another sd card. The current one may be dead.

Option 3) The non-trivial option: Get a USB to TTL adapter and attach it to the uart of the mcu board. That will allow you to see what is happening during system boot and possibly give a clue what's wrong.

[wyn]

I purchased 10gh of l3+ miners and the op gave free firmware that lowers the watts used on L3+ gear saving me a lot of watts since 2018.
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at jstefanop  thank you 🙏

not to hijack, but what firmware are your L3+s rocking these days?

i picked up a used L3+ off ebay and just now am able to power it up and test it. The firmware on it is ~2018

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more on topic, I have seen a lot of folks inquire about replacement fans ... my batch 2 fan was doing fine but seemed to be a bit louder than I remembered after a move.

I went with https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-014R-000U0?Item=9SIAS45CZW8656 and the Futurebit Apollo LTC has been running cooler and quieter (I did clean it well on the fanswap and that always helps).
High Speed: This model is designed to maximize airflow and can be too loud for some applications. 92 x 92 x 38 mm ( 3.62 x 3.62 x 1.5 in.)
Rated Voltage: 12V
Rated Current: 1A
Airflow: 117 CFM
Power: 12W
Speed: 5800 RPM

It's always nice to have a backup if one croaks.

Cheers

[azereki]

@jstefanop

Hey, I don't know if this is an issue with the Apollo firmware or the way that Prohashing issues work and switches coins, but figured I'd give you a heads up in case you or anyone else had ideas on how to solve.

TL;DR: When using Prohashing and having an active and failover pool enabled in my Apollo dash, I get high error rate, reducing hashing, and hash power going to active and failover pools simultaneously.


This is what I posted on their support forums, just speculating:

I used the configurator to get the default options for my Futurebit Apollo scrypt miner and pointed it at the pool, I am noticing that it takes a long time to start up, skipping over the first coin in fact and going directly to LTC.

After a short period the hardware error rate skyrockets up to 30% and the hashrate declines dramatically. The error rate seems to slowly stabilize around 14-15%, with my hashrate ultimately being stuck around 80-90. I am using it in Eco mode, which should provide roughly at least 100 Mh/s.

Worth nothing, I don't experience this issue with others pools, such as litecoinpool. I wouldn't mind pointing my Scrypt miner at Prohashing, but this hit to hashrate is untenable and I don't want to inadvertently crash my miner, any possible solutions?

Edit: I don't know if this is the root problem or not. It looks like while having a failover pool set, perhaps because of the delay of initially getting work, the miner is considering Prohashing as simultaneously being in an active and fail state and sending some hash power to the failover pool. Perhaps this is causing a problem with the difficulty calculation from Prohashing and causing the error rate when switching between currently mined coins? Disabling the backup pool altogether, which is non-ideal, seems to resolve the HW error and reduced hashing state.

[JCBear]

Hi jstefanop, I have a gen 1 apollo and I want to be able to run a node on it. I was wondering if you are going to have the upgrade kits in stock soon. TIA Best J