Bullrun will always come , Newbies do your research well

[florac9]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

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[dandannn]

prehistoric data is not an indicator of future events, there are much better reasons to be bullish on bitcoin

[BitcoinHodler]

the newbies who were worried about future of bitcoin have already sold and are out. i don't think there is anybody left with major amounts of bitcoin who is also worried about the future. that is why the drops look so weird these days.

[Coolman4]

yes many investors made mode good money in bull run have sold there coins and with many rules and regulations from governments made bitcoin price to be in red this year , i do think soon bull run starts 

[bitfocus]

newbies are selling in low, getting heavy damage, but investors are buying - newbies will never be pro if they can't grow a heart to take risks.

[randythered]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Bull and bear runs will not always come. That is fantasy talk. Eventually the market will cease to be relevant and people will no longer invest in it and therefore there will be no more bullish runs.

I strongly believe we have not reached that point yet but I just want you to be aware that relying solely on history will lead you to ruin.

[topkhai]

Past history is strong evidence of the strength of bitcoin. Smart newbies can analyze it well. Here we don't see newbie or professionals but those who do their own research who have to make decisions. Here there is no compulsion, anyone can go or hold on

[davis196]

The bull run might come,but we have to bare in mind what exactly is a "bull run".
A bull run is hype+FOMO,which is driven by the crypto whales,crypto "gurus",mainstream media and the overall market situation.This leads to millions of newbies buying crypto and hoping for fast profits.
We need all the ingredients for the bull run recipe.

[Harkorede]

I guess this is a well known fact for everyone including newbies, everybody are rather just so impatient and expecting the bullrun to happen at the earliest possible time, I wouldn't blame them though that's what being new into a system does to you, those who have been in it long enough already know it's only a matter of time. However, I don't think past histories are anything to go by when predicting what is to come in crypto.

[self love sisters]

Every market has a cycle to follow. The thing is most investors right now preferred short-term gains rather than looking at the big picture of cryptocurrency and the impact it can give to us in the future. Bull run will come at the right time it might not now or next year but it will in the future.

[aoluain]

the newbies who were worried about future of bitcoin have already sold and are out. i don't think there is anybody left with major amounts of bitcoin who is also worried about the future. that is why the drops look so weird these days.

Agree, those who were fearful of the recent market drop are already out.
Realistically anyone left in is not going to sell now.

We will be here again after the next ATH, It happens in waves or cycles,
it has happened before anf will happen again.

There are some who can react quickly to what happens abd others who
are causing the movements.

[Potato Chips]

Actually, Its more reasonable to think that pessimism will take over in a bearish market. Not to mention, most newbies are gullible, they are the ones who always rides the HYPE train and will prolly believe whatever it is, given that most ppl are doing it 乁( ͡ಠ ʖ̯ ͡ಠ)ㄏ

And last time I check, it isn't scientifically proven that history would always repeat itself. Everyone including you is just speculating, and most are based on something, pretty sure you're not the only one who base their stance on the past events.

[FuryBeast]

Bullrun will come - 100%. But it's maybe early now - we must wait patiently and buy in at the bottom.

[Panchum]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Yes l was waiting for thebullrun this year l know it will come.l don't lose hope l will be patiently wait for the opportunity for me to be rich to reach my goal in life.

[biskitop]

after all, at the moment some altcoins and other crypto in the market are doing significant development, and hardfork are doing them to be even stronger in the market. the efforts of et bitcoin are also still not giving up, so believe that a bull run will definitely happen.

[franky1]

since october when the hashrate decline of pools getting ready for the next gen ASIC switchover began. profitability changed those unable to obtain bitcoin cheaply through mining stopped and those who could carry on have. and now they get a bigger slice of rewards due to less competition. thus they can sell more cheaply

there is a market/mining dynamic that plays out as a result. no one wants to sell for less than cost. and everyone is looking for the cheapest way to obtain bitcoin. so there is a correlation between mining and the markets.

just watch for when (not a temporary hourly/daily average) a weekly/monthly average of hashrate rises. and you will see the market follow

looking at the most efficient mining. (i done the math to make it easy) take the hashrate and multiply it by 104 and you will find the dynamic number of minimum mining cost / minimum bitcoin sell value
its not a hard rule as sometimes you get the odd early adopter/panic seller that wishes to push beyond that. but after that temporary event, the early adoptor/panic seller no longr has their coin so they cant re-push the price using coins they no longer have,
but in general you will see the dynamic play out where by the price stays at or above the 104 multiple of exahashes

take right now ~32exa *104=3328........ current price ~3400

this correlation has been well known for 8+ years
heres hal finneys first ever post on the forum talking about it in 2010

One reason price might follow difficulty is that mining should not be too profitable (because nothing should be too profitable, the world doesn't leave free money lying around). Therefore the price of Bitcoins can't rise too much above the cost of mining (counting equipment depreciation among the costs of course). The cost of mining is proportional to the difficulty (approximately). Therefore we might expect to see price proportional to difficulty.

We do see a nearly proportional relationship in the 1st graph, but that data set was incomplete. I'd like to see that last graph redone with a linear difficulty scale so we could see how the proportionality holds up with more data.

the dynamic exists because if mining is too profitable miners sell. bringing down the price.
the dynamic exists because if mining is too expensive people just buy. bringing up the price.

people will always find the cheapest way to get bitcoin. and people avoid selling bitcoin at a loss. so price staying around the cost of mining has shown a correlation even 8 years later

[harizen]

..Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Past performance will not guarantee future results. If bull run will come, there's another reason why it will happened. We have lots of reasons to believed on that disregarding the price history.

On a side note, we don't have to bother on other's approach on the bitcoin future price. We can't have the same view about it. If others want to dump, then fine. Want to exit, then fine. Want to continue, then fine. etc.

People just have to take advantage on every opportunity they will encounter, whether to buy or to sell. What matter here is, we must received a "benefits" no matter the market situation is.

[Bitdressa]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

I agree with those of you who are forward-looking like that, who are able to arouse the enthusiasm of crypto money users who indeed have support from every party and also information that can indeed encourage the user to continue to be optimistic about the future of crypto's money.

[dandannn]

Bullrun will come - 100%. But it's maybe early now - we must wait patiently and buy in at the bottom.

Thank you , oh wise one. Now please inform us what is the bottom?

[munareal]

The beauty of cryptocurrencies is its unstable state. No one can accurately predict what will happen with cryptocurrencies for there will always be bullish and bearish state

[moynul2050]

they are full of fear and just understand that bitcoin is not like gold.
I am still grateful because bitcoin still has a price and I think it is very valuable. if the price goes down I think this is a good opportunity for anyone to get a cheap price. relax

[Shiversnow]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

They are really worried now because the price is in bad condition and even all solid cryptocurrencies are in bad situation. Aside from worrying because of the price some people use this opportunity to buy bitcoin. In terms of bull run we just need to wait because it will happen again.

[Indamuck]

Most people here are mistaken.  Past performance usually repeats itself the majority of the time.  If it didn't there would be no point in studying history and looking at past market charts.  The upside heavily outweights the downside and this will be the last chance to buy in cheap before crypto becomes completely mainstream.

[antisocial77]

i understand them, i bought my first bitcoin in earlier january, i was thinking it was too easy to make some money because btc was around 17k.if new investors understand its not that easy, everything will be easier for them.

[gabmen]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

They are really worried now because the price is in bad condition and even all solid cryptocurrencies are in bad situation. Aside from worrying because of the price some people use this opportunity to buy bitcoin. In terms of bull run we just need to wait because it will happen again.

Nope. They are worried because they might not afford holding long enough for that bull run you're talking about. Of course if they can hold a year or more, just as you've said, they'd be less worried about the current situation.

[Lilmon]

It is true that the bullrun will happen, sooner or later, but you must also be aware that this bear market has lasted longer than any prediction, that is why it is so dangerous to try to make predictions, because we do not really know what will happen, it may recover in 1 or 2 years and that is a bad investment from any point of view.

[Huskarls]

the newbies who were worried about future of bitcoin have already sold and are out. i don't think there is anybody left with major amounts of bitcoin who is also worried about the future. that is why the drops look so weird these days.

In my opinion, what the newbie is afraid of until now is the reason why the bubble in bitcoin is very risky. Manipulation and hacking that are still rife also adds to their concern for investing. They should also find the reason why they should buy bitcoin, and for how long do they have to be HOLD bitcoin ?
Most of them are expect for short-term profit even its almost impossible

[Kemarit]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly.

It's because majority of them buy bitcoin during its peak price, that's why they're so worried because the market suddenly turns into a bearish one and seeing their portfolio going down, its worrisome for newbies.

After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

The only good thing you will get from reading Bitcoin's past, is that the market works in cycles. But we can't pinpoint when does the bear cycle ends or when is the bull run begins. The market is fairly young and the sample data is few to predict where the price is going to be. That's why majority of us are taking advantage of the situation by buying today because its cheap and then wait for the market to make a reversal in the next months or even years.

[tomahawk9]

Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean that it'll happen again. I'm not being pessimistic, but it's the truth, we don't know if we'll ever see a bull run again. But we don't need a bull run and hype with a bunch of people fomo buying bitcoin like crazy to test a new ATH, we could very well see a slow upward movement for the next couple of years until the price goes past 20k. Newbies shouldn't put all their hopes in a bull run, they should just understand that the price will recover in the long run.

[SJJoh]

Am I following the idea right: if the market tendencies are repeating themselves, it means that the chances are high that a bullrun will be followed by another market crash? What's so positive about that for holders then? As you see, I'm one of the newbies. And no, I haven't sold my BTC))

[bettercrypto]

I think that the next bull run will be triggered by approval of bitcoin ETF by SEC. We already heard of the news that several ETF had been rejected. We are still waiting for the approval of other ETF applications. Maybe next an ETF might be approved and ths will trigger the next bull run. But, for now we are still expecting more downward trend. However, you can acquire some bitcoin and altcoins while the prices are low.

[kram31]

Bullrun will come but no one can tell when it will start.
it will just on the market and we will see tokens price rising.
Bears will never stay in the market forever bulls will come to get them away.
we just need to wait and study more to get the best token we can have.

[Cashi]

I think that the next bull run will be triggered by approval of bitcoin ETF by SEC. We already heard of the news that several ETF had been rejected. We are still waiting for the approval of other ETF applications. Maybe next an ETF might be approved and ths will trigger the next bull run. But, for now we are still expecting more downward trend. However, you can acquire some bitcoin and altcoins while the prices are low.

I doubt such decisions will be good for Bitcoin in long term. Bitcoin is designed as counterpart to banks an centralized profit bullshit so why exactly this should be a positive news for BTC? Maybe all these speculaion about gaining profits fro bringing BTC to wallstreet is making this bear market even worse...

[tenakha]

In my opinion this informs those who are unfamiliar with Bitcoin about how they should behave in the future. Bullrun will undoubtedly come but it would be better to accept until then. Maybe a few months maybe a few years.

[Timmzzy]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Definitely those Getting into Cryptocurrency for the first time are the ones panicking and as well selling off their coins at cheap prices for whales. With a proper research I believe many will know that definitely bullrun will come.

[kamBlanV]

Mark Yusko said, BTC investment will grow 20 times greater in the next 10 years.

even though the long bear market is projected, there is no doubt that in the next few years, BTC will be a good investment place. and even today, some people still choose BTC as a good investment.

this makes me optimistic, that BTC will create a bull market again.

[BurgerCash]

There's definitely going to be a bull run at some point.
But I'm willing to bet that we're not reaching the 20k price again. So for the first time in history, the following bull run will not beat the previous bull run's ATH.
Let's just hope it's not a bull run from $100 to $300

[FutureToken]

Exactly! BTC has 10 years history and it can easily be looked into and some patterns can be noticed. The ballroom can be expected for 2019 and hopefully it will happen in the first quarter of the year. You should take this as a circle, an ongoing process and look at the opportunity of the current situation. This is an invitation to new investors to take their part in the game.

[AimHigh]

You are right right now is the year of falling but if you know how to wait and patiently waiting bull run is coming. Newbies was the number one panicking on what happen they need more research and read for their additional knowledge  regarding on what happen. Bitcoin not permanently dumping after of dumping bull run will come next so that we need to be patient and wait for the bull run.

[pixie85]

You shouldn't expect it to stay at some imaginary level just because it has 10 years of history or because it once was there.
The bottom can be at 3000, or maybe 2, or maybe 1? The bull run will come but it may not be the bull run that you're expecting. The next bull run doesn't have to go higher than this one. It can fall to 1000 and then have a bull run to 6000 and another bear market for a year.

[jointherevolution]

That's right, newbies buy at high and sell at low because they are afraid to wait. I say, if you have big loss then why not wait to see if it will get better in some time? Why sell now and suffer loss? I have not spend much time in crypto myself but I am willing to wait it out.

[aray80]

true, because the price of bitcoin has dropped so low in recent months, if we try to predict the movement of the bitcoin chart in previous years, every year bitcoin will place its position at its highest peak before finally falling back because of its volatile nature

[Twentyonepaylots]

Bullrun will come - 100%. But it's maybe early now - we must wait patiently and buy in at the bottom.

Thank you , oh wise one. Now please inform us what is the bottom?

  Some are wanted to get rich after investing? Yes, one should learn the market, the in's and out about crypto market, the short term or long term invest, how and when to put in their possible money for good coin...this need a lot of time for all the information to be consider before getting into active investment.. No one can predict when the market goes down to the botom level as some expected it, but the good news if you learn the crypto market it gives you the relief from a lot of stress on the wall...Be Patient  learn the process.

[musharaf]

We should not be worry about the price fall of the bitcoin now but we have a good future and people have different views about the crypto and good times comes always and bull run is highly expected and it is good for the new people when they know that price is high they come for investment.

[Mpamaegbu]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

It's sad that Newbies won't read or listen. All they are eager to do is make money, believing erroneously that cryptocurrency is a get rich quick scheme. No, my dear it's not! It's an investment that takes time to grow. Get your pen and paper and study the charts. I know when we start another bull runs, all the worries and battery of this bear market will be forgotten until we hit another crash and the panic buttons are reactivated again. It's a circle.

[livingancient]

Bull run is not always to come but timely  to come as always. If we say always come then the market should always bull run and won't ever experience drastic deadly dump. Patient is a must to wait the market to recover and see the progress that could happen. Due to excitement newbies wouldn't like to search because  they are in the stage to trust everything is good.

[hicaribou]

Bull run is not always to come but timely  to come as always. If we say always come then the market should always bull run and won't ever experience drastic deadly dump. Patient is a must to wait the market to recover and see the progress that could happen. Due to excitement newbies wouldn't like to search because  they are in the stage to trust everything is good.

Yep the problem here is when the bullrun will happen again? We all know that when crypto market was booming or hype before, every coin price was a speculative price and not based on demand. Those crypto projects still need several years to get decent demand.

[btyco]

Newbies don't look at the bigger picture, they think the price has fallen so it's game over. They are wrong, we are just getting started with mass adoption and a new all time high

[Zainal-baguz]

if in my opinion it's definitely bro. but that becomes a problem. when will there be bubbles. until many beginners stop investing because the price situation is always deteriorating

[jubilarian]

In blood market, almost new cryptocurrency investors have lost their money when they sold out at low price. It's because they don't have experience in crypto market so they were panic when the price dump, dump and dump. For me now, I have chosen to hold stablecoin and stay out of market. In addition, learning how make profit from short trading.

[Little_king]

I see those who always cry over btc down or crypto crash as hit and run people who don't care about this great technology but only after making money and am so happy they got their figure burnt in the process cause they ain't ready to learn and the greedy they say kills and soon they shall leave for those that really ready to use this crypto to it main advantage and not money making machine.

[Edenvidal]

Im just newbie here i research for what i read for what i hear. This happening on losing price do you think when the bullrun start moving? Somebody waiting when it will happen for their assurance.

[rudox]

Yes, crypto market is always like that because of its speculative nature. The movement is either up or down and will not be moving in one direction forever but normally will reverse its movement according to the market sentiments. It is noteworthy here that nobody should worry or do something ugly because of the market price because over time it will come around. Hold if you can hold or sell off and wait for another trading opportunity.                                                    

[zhelis74]

Yes, crypto market is always like that because of its speculative nature. The movement is either up or down and will not be moving in one direction forever but normally will reverse its movement according to the market sentiments. It is noteworthy here that nobody should worry or do something ugly because of the market price because over time it will come around. Hold if you can hold or sell off and wait for another trading opportunity.                                                    

Because crypto currency is a decentralized form therefore we should always expect ups and down in the market and yes! I believe that sooner the bull market will come only this year has the highest record of bear market and I believe that there are still many people around the world preparing this happening.

[playboy654]

We can't say for sure when something happened in history so it will happen again too but we can believe that this is not going to be the end since we have already overcome the situation.Do your research about bitcoin then you can invest on it long term.

[Screamshot]

Not everyone is a long term trader we still have alot of day traders and the price drops would surly have an effect on them. Yes the bull run might come but it would be beneficial to those investors who had the patience to hang on

[proTECH77]

The history of bull run in the world of cryptocurrency worth study to get acquitted with the norms of bitcoin bull run. I will strongly advise all newbie investors to get themselves ready to strive with bitcoin at this trial period to see the glory of it bull run. Research before making any move to invest in this industry, as this will ensure loses are minimize....   

[seoincorporation]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

I agree with you, bitcoin will give another one of those crazy jumps someday, and maybe this time hit the $100,000 each btc. But here the problem or the question is when this will happen? We can be sure it will not happen tomorrow. So for those who want to become rich will have to wait for sure some years again.

[johnny508]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Of course without a doubt when considering the bitcoin price variation trend when there is a price drop there is always a considerable price increase follows because the low price attracts new investors and traders to buy bitcoin to make good profits and that increases the demand which is a major reason to push bitcoin value up in the crypto market and this situation is not understood by many newbies and that is the main reason why most of them sell bitcoin when the price is getting low

[Fredomago]

The history of bull run in the world of cryptocurrency worth study to get acquitted with the norms of bitcoin bull run. I will strongly advise all newbie investors to get themselves ready to strive with bitcoin at this trial period to see the glory of it bull run. Research before making any move to invest in this industry, as this will ensure loses are minimize....   

Invest with proper educations before you make your entry inside this industry, read and research well as many factors that can influence the current situations, avoid listening to any fuds newbies are the people that this whales loves being played so make sure you have alternatives just in case you
suffer from your first attempt don't stop and keep moving forward bull will show when you are ready to play.

[TheLoser]

I think that the history of bitcoin for each year is individual and it is not repeated . Therefore, before investing in bitcoin, a beginner needs to learn cryptocurrency and not to hurry with the decision to buy or not .

[kamudd]

That's right, in the current market conditions we are strongly encouraged to apply energy and believe that other bitcoin and crypto will increase. But besides that we also have to prepare ourselves if what we have expected is not really happening.

[thankyoulord]

though i agree with you about having a bullrun in the nearest future but i dont support using past graph to analyze what will happen in the future. There are more better reasons why there will be a bullrun for bitcoin and not by the graph you talking about

[bummm]

though i agree with you about having a bullrun in the nearest future but i dont support using past graph to analyze what will happen in the future. There are more better reasons why there will be a bullrun for bitcoin and not by the graph you talking about

Unfortunately, in most cases, these graphs are useless. You cannot use them to predict the bull run or the next market fall. However, I believe that in 2019 many alts will go to the Moon.

[denzkilim]

prehistoric data is not an indicator of future events, there are much better reasons to be bullish on bitcoin

LOL, that's correct but the tactical analysis is way better than predictions that are based on pre-historic data's.

the newbies who were worried about future of bitcoin have already sold and are out. i don't think there is anybody left with major amounts of bitcoin who is also worried about the future. that is why the drops look so weird these days.

Maybe most of those newbies are out now and got rekt already. I think the reason for this is those major hodlers of Bitcoins are already selling some of their Bitcoin hodlings that they bought at a lower price a couple of years back and they are selling it by batches since December 2017, Why are they selling it by batches? probably the amount of Bitcoin that they are hodling would not fit the buy orders and if they sell it all at once the market could crash down instantly in my opinion.

[Eraldo Coil]

I am hoping for another bull run however, no one really knows what will happen. The only thing we know is that this event already happened in the past but it's not going to be a cause of a good thing in the future. All we can do know is invest and hope. And also, luck still plays a role here.

[mickeybuddy27]

the newbies who were worried about future of bitcoin have already sold and are out. i don't think there is anybody left with major amounts of bitcoin who is also worried about the future. that is why the drops look so weird these days.

That is worst. Newbie expects good on the market and do not accept that the price drops when they came on the market. Instead of getting limited supply, it won't happened. A newbie should know that they can regret when they cut losses and leave the market because this is an opportunity to the holder to buy more volume and wait to the price increase and worth better profit.

[jonaire99]

There is always a time for bullrun so we have to patiently wait for its return. The reason why the market is still experiencing a bearish condition because of the bullrun that happened last year. It may take sometime before the market bullish again. Newbies need to educate ob the basics of cryptocurrency so they can understand how the price of the coins move from time to time.

[FutureToken]

Great title, I agree completely. I noticed that there has been some form of symptomatic behavior where people are entering the crypto market with little or no knowledge at all. It is great and it is stupidity. They have heard that there is some great new way for you to earn a ton of money over night if you give some in. So, they put money in first and ask questions later.

[hicaribou]

Great title, I agree completely. I noticed that there has been some form of symptomatic behavior where people are entering the crypto market with little or no knowledge at all. It is great and it is stupidity. They have heard that there is some great new way for you to earn a ton of money over night if you give some in. So, they put money in first and ask questions later.

Yess thats why the came into cryptomarket before, because crypto currency price surge news were all over the internet. Now what? They got a very bad results and may have a trauma to return into this market again.

[Bennix]

However,every business someone do  has season,meaning there is a time when the demand for a particular product would be high,and the same thing is applied to bitcoin.Over time,we have seen many traders loose huge amount of bitcoin due to bear market.Sometimes ,they will think that there will never be bull market,and this result in a deep regret after the persons have sold his bitcoin.
If you could remember ,bitcoin was sold at high price of $35 in 11/06/2011 and the price went down to $2 in 21/11/2011,thereby loosing almost 93%.Many people sold because they think bitcoin will not witness any bullrun ,but today bitcoin worth $20000 20/12/2017.
In view of this,bullrun will kick start once the panic sellers are wiped out of the market.Newbies should also know that bitcoin is on the verge of being adopted by masses and big companies of which once it goes mainstream the doubters might not buy it at the current price.

[ololajulo]

most people who came during the last bull run intended to make quick money and leave but fell victim. Some invested other people's money and are being chased around for refund. the patient ones will understand the cycle over time and know how to place yourself for a good profit. If there were no intervention/manipulation there is possibility the price might keep going up but it is important we have the correction or else we might have a bigger burst that could kill the space.

[burky155]

When you look back we have bull runs and bear markets many times. Many of them was painfull and joyful. So we all know that the changes can happen in this bitcoin and cryptocurrency markets. But we would never know that when the price go high or low. But in here we read the same things everyday. The bitcoin is dead or the bull run will start.. I think we need to think little bit less about it. This is not so healthy.

[TBboys]

There is a saying that you can't change the past, but you can learn from it. Therefore, our best practice is not to predict what will happen in the future based on what happened in the past, but to see from past experience what is insufficient in the market and find the direction of the future.
In other words, we can see that crypto's future is a bright road, but how it goes depends on us.
So don't make meaningless predictions. We just need to be confident that crypto is our best support.

[Tagus45]

Bitcoin journey from the beginning until now is unstable, the increase and even the decline in prices is normal, always optimistic that this year will decline but in the future it will jump high.

[izanagi narukami]

The problem is if we see the value difference, it's so massive.
I joined crypto when $ 299/btc , on Nov 2017, the value $ 15.000++ as you can see the huge amount of difference.

I know it will come but usually it's difficult to reach same value for twice except more government or company implement cryptocurrency for their transaction or trading purpose

[clickerz]

When you look back we have bull runs and bear markets many times. Many of them was painfull and joyful. So we all know that the changes can happen in this bitcoin and cryptocurrency markets. But we would never know that when the price go high or low. But in here we read the same things everyday. The bitcoin is dead or the bull run will start.. I think we need to think little bit less about it. This is not so healthy.

Its just a cycle and it will repeat happening from time to time. The only question here is when this next bull run will happen. Sometimes it takes several moths to years that some people give up waiting it and sold for a big loss. Just relax and watch the  market moves, cut loss if necessary.

[Easzjohn]

Most newbies are currently scared of the present market situation. Just like any other investment there will always be dumo and rise and soon enough crypto pump will come again

[oginiimaoyani]

For sure it will always come and the good times will always come too so be patient, calm and wait when it comes and no need of being panic

[iv4n]

Most newbies are currently scared of the present market situation. Just like any other investment there will always be dumo and rise and soon enough crypto pump will come again

What is newbie, person who joined months or years ago? I ask that because many people joined more than year ago, when bull run started, most of this people aren`t newcomers but they still act like they are, they still don`t get crypto. I think bull run will come for sure, for bitcoin and some other coins, but not for all coins and bunch of tokens, most of them, like 95% will fail over time. Newcomers should read a lot before they decide to give money for any investment, for people who don`t wish to think too much bitcoin is always there, don`t think just invest.

[mickeybuddy27]

For sure it will always come and the good times will always come too so be patient, calm and wait when it comes and no need of being panic

I agree. There is a recover that will going to happen. Buy now and hold for you not to regret the moment that will give you good profit when the price increases. You must enjoy that you come when the market is in bearish because you can buy more volume cheaper then wait till it bullish again. It won't stay in down.

[setialovers]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Maybe people who worry about bitcoin price condition right now is people who bought bitcoin at high price. I think they just worry about their own investment value. If we are confident with our investment, better keep our investment for long term because crypto still at early stage and i am believe it will growing bigger in near future

[gesdan]

many people think that the price dopping of bitcoin right now is the end of bitcoin, why? because the price of bitcoin down sharply and many people think that bitcoin will dead in here. so there are many people that take out their investment and trading programs

[sirminesalot]

many people think that the price dopping of bitcoin right now is the end of bitcoin, why? because the price of bitcoin down sharply and many people think that bitcoin will dead in here. so there are many people that take out their investment and trading programs

yes, maybe people who say that are because they are desperate and their service is not available to Bitcoin. just need to wait and pray that everything will be back soon and normal.

[kodtycoon]

Bullrun will indeed happen again and so that it happens it seems we have to continue to be patient, because every time there is a decrease, there will be an increase that will happen next. So if we remain calm and continue to be patient, then we will not lose out on our investment because bullrun will happen later.

[CristianDan]

i think bull will eun very soon. hope at the end of this year

[sheynlee18]

Yeah.. It has been a debate and a topic over and over again.. It is just a cycle but we cannot really have an accurate prediction about the price of BTC & other Cryptocurrency. Those speculations and predictions are just statement of an analyst but those are just 50/50 chance to happen.. There are so many negative things that bitcoin has which is stopping it to reach a huge amount of money and we cannot stop that but there are also positive things that many people are speculating that could really help bitcoin overtakes the price of gold.. but in the end it is still depends on the market volatility and investors... Let us just hope for the better of future of crypto !

[coin-investor]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

People prefer to see the bad side of the situation instead of the history on how Bitcoin managed to survive all these FUDS, the graph and the history clearly says that Bitcoin is here to stay, the only unusual here is the long bear trend that is happening this year, but we also see a long bull run that has happened on 2016 and 2017

[Farahtenan]

Indeed, the bull run will come and the time is when we don't know for sure, and newcomers are just starting to be patient, waiting for the bull run but some are giving up.
I chose to hold on and see the bull run happening, it seems that it would be so good if this happened, I would be happy and learn to be able to play in the market.

[killat]

Bullrun as bearish periods are part of cryto market, they are cyclical and perfectly normal for any market.

If you trust in Blockchain technology and projects you invested, just hold your coins and wait for the next bullish trend before you sell. Panic sell is one of the worst decisions you can take in cryto.

[anitaraymonds]

Cryptocuerrency is a speculative market and the market price will always be rising and falling. The market price can never be stable as this will be against it nature of volatility. This is the reason why the price is always correcting its self. We have been in the bearish market since the of the year 2018 and it is assumed that the bulls will soon take over the market and the price correction will take place.

[TheUltraElite]

i think bull will eun very soon. hope at the end of this year

It literally wont at this time - that much can be said with a large amount of certainity. Unless there is some fake pump which manipulates the market there wont be any rise by this year end. While this seems pessimistic but its from the analysis that the charts are showing at the moment. While a bull run might happen later next year the next ETF date on February is the date to look out for and for a small pump before the news hits which generally happens.

It is a part of the rise and fall cycle. You people should gain resistance towards these effects.

[hicaribou]

i think bull will eun very soon. hope at the end of this year

It literally wont at this time - that much can be said with a large amount of certainity. Unless there is some fake pump which manipulates the market there wont be any rise by this year end. While this seems pessimistic but its from the analysis that the charts are showing at the moment. While a bull run might happen later next year the next ETF date on February is the date to look out for and for a small pump before the news hits which generally happens.

It is a part of the rise and fall cycle. You people should gain resistance towards these effects.

It looks like that the price is being manipulated by whales because the recent dumps are just happened without any reason. So if the price is manipulated, its just to shake out weak hands and then I think there will be an unexpected time of bullrun too.

[partysaurus]

i think bull will eun very soon. hope at the end of this year

It literally wont at this time - that much can be said with a large amount of certainity. Unless there is some fake pump which manipulates the market there wont be any rise by this year end. While this seems pessimistic but its from the analysis that the charts are showing at the moment. While a bull run might happen later next year the next ETF date on February is the date to look out for and for a small pump before the news hits which generally happens.

It is a part of the rise and fall cycle. You people should gain resistance towards these effects.

It looks like that the price is being manipulated by whales because the recent dumps are just happened without any reason. So if the price is manipulated, its just to shake out weak hands and then I think there will be an unexpected time of bullrun too.

feel its oversold thanks to fear and stock market also crashing , but think crypto will recover pretty soon

[bitbunnny]

i think bull will eun very soon. hope at the end of this year

It literally wont at this time - that much can be said with a large amount of certainity. Unless there is some fake pump which manipulates the market there wont be any rise by this year end. While this seems pessimistic but its from the analysis that the charts are showing at the moment. While a bull run might happen later next year the next ETF date on February is the date to look out for and for a small pump before the news hits which generally happens.

It is a part of the rise and fall cycle. You people should gain resistance towards these effects.

It looks like that the price is being manipulated by whales because the recent dumps are just happened without any reason. So if the price is manipulated, its just to shake out weak hands and then I think there will be an unexpected time of bullrun too.

I'm not convinced that the dump hsppened without a reason and that we have to blaim whales for that. Market is very complex and a lot of factors together influence it in different ways and there is always some kind of cause.
But it's true that bull run will come again because volatility is actually a closed circle, so things repeat, it's just the question of time when.

[aoluain]

Most newbies are currently scared of the present market situation. Just like any other investment there will always be dumo and rise and soon enough crypto pump will come again

What is newbie, person who joined months or years ago? I ask that because many people joined more than year ago, when bull run started, most of this people aren`t newcomers but they still act like they are, they still don`t get crypto. I think bull run will come for sure, for bitcoin and some other coins, but not for all coins and bunch of tokens, most of them, like 95% will fail over time. Newcomers should read a lot before they decide to give money for any investment, for people who don`t wish to think too much bitcoin is always there, don`t think just invest.

I was lucky enough to join the bitcoin movement in jan 2017, almost 2
years ago which was the start of the bull run mentioned. I have learned
a lot from the forum and i think anyone who joined at the same time
are well versed in crypto now.

There are those who have only joined crypto in 2018 who obviously have
yet to experience a bull run and the next one could be a big one!!
for bitcoin for sure but the will be casualties

[Maxre]

we cannot see from history because history is not necessarily going to repeat itself but understand well what has happened in 2017 and why it can be like this in 2018.
no one knows when a bull run will occur but there are still people who believe that it will happen.

[pooja1982]

Crypto market is facing down to downfall from the last year 2017 and the expert of this market are unbale to predict that where the dip level of this market will be stop and bullrun will start on this confirm month or dated. But I hope that bullrun will be come soon in the starting of coming year 2019. Newbie and the old investors need to study and research every facts of crypto market for update the same.

[Futureglory]

So far as the cryptocurrency is still in existence we will never give up even when things fall apart there is definitely be a time for bullish run. We aware of the volatility of the market and that does not scare us because we aware of it.

[jemarleon]

You are right, thats why I just leaving the market now and didnt look on the price because it will just give stress on me so I better go out with friends and forget about this bearish market for a while.

There's always a bullish market after the bearish market.

[pinoyden]

I guess there is something wrong on the title of this thread.  Bullrun will always come ?  No thats a false claim  .   bull run wont always come because the dip is always take on place .

The truth is that bull run can only come once or twice a year and it does not remain permanent same as the dip because the nature of cryptos are highly volatile .

You are right, thats why I just leaving the market now and didnt look on the price because it will just give stress on me so I better go out with friends and forget about this bearish market for a while.

There's always a bullish market after the bearish market.

Thats a good strategy you got there mate .  to be honest i also that once whenever im really stressed out looking on the value of cryptos  .  much better if we can leave the crypto scene for a while so that we cant make a wrong decisions if ever our emotions got triggered .

[superstarbtc]

The bull run is expected to come after the first quarter there are bakkt launch and Etf and Nasdaq and fidelity entering cryptocurrency industry with these positive launches we expect stable bull rally in 2019

[3kpk3]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Bull and bear runs will not always come. That is fantasy talk. Eventually the market will cease to be relevant and people will no longer invest in it and therefore there will be no more bullish runs.

I strongly believe we have not reached that point yet but I just want you to be aware that relying solely on history will lead you to ruin.

Lol. I don't agree with you at all. It is true that it is not wise to depend on the past to predict the future, but the information from the past is always helpful while preparing to invest for the future.

This is why it is never wise to forget the past, but instead it is best to learn from the past to prosper in the future. Don't depend on charts or any sort of analysis since that sort of stuff rarely helps in this extremely volatile market.

[coin8coin8]

No need to doubt Bullrun, but when will Bullrun happen? This is the problem we are most concerned about, maybe 1 year, maybe 2 years, maybe longer, any market has a business cycle, and we are at the bottom of this cycle (may not have reached the bottom yet), So for most people, Bullrun is not what they worry about, their need to consider how to survive in a bear market.

[Ezenwanyi]

Yes. I agree completely with your assertion that bull run will always happen irrespective of what the situation is right now.
The volatility nature of Cryptocurrency made it so.
Price swinging both way is what make Cryptocurrency Cryptocurrency.

[trauchot]

You do not forget that soon the cryptocurrency will be regulated by the governments and it is not known what will happen to the cryptocurrency market, most likely everything will simply stabilize and will stand in one place to prevent all these manipulations, so the year 2019 will most likely be the last when we will see a big pump, if growth will be of course.

[mahibul49]

yes newbies are selling in panic price but actually they didnt research about bitcoin.before you involve in bitcoin you have to research about bitcoin.bull run will come surely

[mirawantirinjana]

yes newbies are selling in panic price but actually they didnt research about bitcoin.before you involve in bitcoin you have to research about bitcoin.bull run will come surely

will a bull run occur? Do you still believe that a bull run will occur this year? some threads say that crypto currencies need a miracle to get back up

[pundit]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Bull and bear runs will not always come. That is fantasy talk. Eventually the market will cease to be relevant and people will no longer invest in it and therefore there will be no more bullish runs.

I strongly believe we have not reached that point yet but I just want you to be aware that relying solely on history will lead you to ruin.

Lol. I don't agree with you at all. It is true that it is not wise to depend on the past to predict the future, but the information from the past is always helpful while preparing to invest for the future.

This is why it is never wise to forget the past, but instead it is best to learn from the past to prosper in the future. Don't depend on charts or any sort of analysis since that sort of stuff rarely helps in this extremely volatile market.

This is not about predictions based on past histories but market always move in this way only, there is a bull run, there is bear run and there is a sideways trend, any financial market does not get to zero level ever and same will be the case with cryptocurrency market as well.
Panic is being created in the name of regulations now, many countries have denied legalization of cryptocurrencies but world does not end here, many countries and big companies have given recognition to cryptos, be patient there will recovery in the crypto market.

[mornabo]

yes newbies are selling in panic price but actually they didnt research about bitcoin.before you involve in bitcoin you have to research about bitcoin.bull run will come surely

will a bull run occur? Do you still believe that a bull run will occur this year? some threads say that crypto currencies need a miracle to get back up

for now it is impossible for a bull run to occur, whereas there is nothing that can raise demand to rise high. but for the next year we
don't know yet? maybe a bull run can happen, because the conditions will certainly be different in the next year?

[kram31]

There is no doubt that bull run will always occur anytime.
I saw the market yesterday and today, what i am seeing now is a little bulls running in the market.
I hope this will continue as more of the people thinks BULL RUN will start before the year ends.

[kaisa]

Based on the current market potential depends on mining, whether they will sell assets directly or hold back. When mining wants to hold their assets, the market conditions will gradually recover and automatically newcomers will start buying again at slightly more expensive prices. The bull run takes time, at least one year ahead. In addition, it is also awaiting crypto regulation in several countries so that crypto is widely adopted for payment transactions or investment facilities.

[btc78]

You are right about this one mate,newbies must do their own research about how bitcoin survive this market for the last 10 years of existence.from almost zero value to almost $20,000 price .

If only the noob and newbies know what is the past movements of bitcoin then for sure they will not become panicking and affected whenever the value drops down

[TitanGEL]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

The cryptocurrency market proved that it can surpass different challenges. As time passing by, it became more strong and more popular. You can see its growth in its graph. People are worrying to the market because they do not have enough information about what happening in the market. It is just a cycle and I am sure that the market will become bull again.

[towi078]

Personally, I believe bullrun will occur. But when it's time, I don't think we will all be able to make sure the time is right. Moreover, we should also focus on other functions of bitcoin. That is as a means of payment, because it will accelerate bitcoin in the adoption process globally

[legenduim]

I think that the history of bitcoin for each year is individual and it is not repeated . Therefore, before investing in bitcoin, a beginner needs to learn cryptocurrency and not to hurry with the decision to buy or not .

Yes, we must not compare the years and the behavior of Bitcoin. 2017 with its winter bull run was, probably, the best period for the cryptocurrencies. However, it never means that we will watch the same picture now.

[imapessimist]

I think its the end game.  Though it's been a long time coming. 

[TRONTON]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

The cryptocurrency market proved that it can surpass different challenges. As time passing by, it became more strong and more popular. You can see its growth in its graph. People are worrying to the market because they do not have enough information about what happening in the market. It is just a cycle and I am sure that the market will become bull again.

in my opinion people are worried about the market conditions not because they lack information, but they are worried because of the many polemics that occur within the crypto community itself, many parties are competing to create new coins, isn't that a way to solve the community strength that supports bitcoin, it is evident that bitcoin has lost most of its supporters who have switched to supporting other coins, and we can see from the reduction bitcoin in the marketcap

[jcmansah7]

I have no doubt about the rising back of the crypto market because from the charts of bitcoin price there is always a correction where the value of bitcoin decreases and rises all over again. Let's wait and see when the next bull run would be. Seriously, people have to do a lot of research into their cryptocurrency portfolio before investing.

[Wingo]

There is no point on using a historical data as a basis on predicting an emotion driven market. Like every asset market, there will always be a reason for a bull run or a bear market. You are the one who needs to make some research, to find what rives the price of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. For example, in 2017 many coins went up greatly, mostly because of the news. Many people wanted to invest in Bitcoin and enjoy the gains. Sometimes it is because of the upgrades in a particular token, a product that is released or some other things that may cause the demand to go up.

[TIDOVEE]

Bullrun should not be least expected in this package.
It is part of what will happen to make bitcoin balance.
Many people accumulate their token to hype well in order to have large profit.
Every new bie should do necessary research in order to manage themselves and maximize their profit

[martina14]

There are no forever in dumping and falling, market will go rise anytime it can.
In cryptocurrency it is normal to fall and rise, we've been sliding for a long time and its time to stand and rise again.
this is how market is going now!

[c-jones89]

We keep talking about that bullrun and predicting its moment and it seems to be prolonged more in the future as the time goes. I am wondering, what do you think that will tirger it? What is the situation or the moment that we are waiting that will start the reverse?

[bosta20]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

So so true! Lets newbies learn to know when to buy in to avoid all the bad markets situations...lol! Mentorship is key in crypto! Am advising for guys to look for a trader or investor that is consistent and follow them! There are so many of them!

[ginobitcoiner]

they are full of fear and just understand that bitcoin is not like gold.
I am still grateful because bitcoin still has a price and I think it is very valuable. if the price goes down I think this is a good opportunity for anyone to get a cheap price. relax

very simple thoughts, I really agree with you, if crypto currency traders have principles like you then there will be no panic sell
keep your positive thoughts friends,

[maddy.]

many investors made good money in bull run have sold there coins and with many rules and regulations from governments made bitcoin price to be in red this year , i do think soon bull run starts

[jointherevolution]

Last few days have proved that crypto will not go down. But I do not wait for market to go up, I do my research an see how there were pat dips and how market takes long to recover in some cases. That is what makes me confident and I have said to others to not despair also.

[NoMoreForksPls]

they are full of fear and just understand that bitcoin is not like gold.
I am still grateful because bitcoin still has a price and I think it is very valuable. if the price goes down I think this is a good opportunity for anyone to get a cheap price. relax

very simple thoughts, I really agree with you, if crypto currency traders have principles like you then there will be no panic sell
keep your positive thoughts friends,

I agree with both of you, but I think we're on the verge of a precedent this time.
Every single bull made us a new ATH during the last cycles.
I think this time it will be different. A bull will come, but we will not react 20k again. At least not soon.
Let's see how it works out.

[TheUltraElite]

very simple thoughts, I really agree with you, if crypto currency traders have principles like you then there will be no panic sell
keep your positive thoughts friends,

But the problem lies deep within the rest of the traders. Not everyone is like the hardcore tight fisted bagholder who does not get influenced by small movements in the market. There are panicky holders too who speculate too much and buy or sell at the wrong times. These people feel they lost their money in crypto and want to cut as little losses as possible before they exit. They did not do proper research and they have to suffer.

The bear market is correctly called as the testing method for the real holders and it is a good method to weed out the weak hands.

[incomefromcoins]

according to past market conditions, we can predict the bull market may start after 9 months of a downtrend and continue downfall of coins so we are in near ending of bear market but newbies have ample time to study new coins development process

[KorakPawon]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Actually they who are worried about the current condition is the short-terms investors. They invest their money to get lots of profit instantly. That's why when the price low they immediately sell their coins which influences the price and the market situation. But, what happened to bitcoin in the past has nothing to do with the future of bitcoin. Even it seems patterned, it doesn't. It's different.

[dreamax25]

Bitcoin passes $4k, finally!

https://coincodex.tv/videos/544/bitcoin-finally-hits-4000-while-fed-raised-interest-rates

[Twentyonepaylots]

The beauty of cryptocurrencies is its unstable state. No one can accurately predict what will happen with cryptocurrencies for there will always be bullish and bearish state

 YES, market history has it all. We've seen the ups and down on the market on Crypto currency Trading. The in's and out of crypto are something need to understand fully. As initial rally of price value of one coin which have some effects on the shift of investment would either contribute to up watd trend or downward.

[munareal]

The crypto market situation is made up of the bullish and the bearish market situation. this we can not run away from . This is what makes the market go round for people to make a profit. Buy low and sell high

[thankyoulord]

most people not just newbies are just after making quick profits from bitcoin and thus are not willing to do any research about it or about price. their main aim of investing in bitcoin is to make quick money and then move on. Bull run will surely come anytime soon and we hope it is soon

[Aponkye1]

I have actually never doubted the rise in the crypto market but it would take time before we see the next bull run. Just a piece of advice to all newbies, have some patience in crypto investments. Study the trend of the crypto market and you will realize that there is a huge bull run coming and only the patient ones would benefit from it.

[repsol]

People actually don't worry about the future of bitcoin market, they are worried about their own assets in bitcoin. They know that if the recent market of bitcoin is taking a long time, they will not get profit in near future. They like to make daily profit from volatile bitcoin price.

Investing in Bitcoin and other major cryoto currency needs positive thinking and patience. And it should be known that crypto is not easy to predict because they are a lot of massive holders that influence the market. So, these all shluld deal and realize before investing in it. 

[TheUltraElite]

according to past market conditions, we can predict the bull market may start after 9 months of a downtrend and continue downfall of coins so we are in near ending of bear market but newbies have ample time to study new coins development process

Very few newbies actually learn about the fundamentals of the coins they are putting their money in. One of the basic things is to know the details of any asset before you put your money in it but thats not what these people want. The downside is they lose faith too early during the bear market because its tests them and they fail.

It is also bad for those who are watching and waiting for a bull market because panic selling starts. But they are the prey for the whales who are willing to buy the dump. Having a integral solid understanding of who bitcoin works should put some faith back in their minds.

[naruto7676]

Newbies must aware if they gonna read this topic at this time many advice will come thru in thier experience and avoid lossing their money in.

[erickbarkley29]

no offense meant but there's this misconception that crypto is a perfect world and that you will become an instant millionaire. 

[KnightElite]

They are worrying because of the current dump the cryptocurrency market. They have doubts about the bull run that will happen. Newbies are now losing their faith and hope to hold their bitcoins because of its bad condition in the market.

[cryptjh]

Markets always have circles, sometimes it goes up and other time down. I think its dangers just to look ad historical charts and then say that Bitcoin will go up around the next halving and the year after, like it have done the last 2 times.
Bitcoin will go up in price when more people buy Bitcoins and generate a real demand, this scenario will most likely happened in the next 2 years.

[Loubap]

always will come, and now more often

[MainIbem]

prehistoric data is not an indicator of future events, there are much better reasons to be bullish on bitcoin

But it can be a good ground to base your predictions and forecast. Yes, it might not give you all that you will require, and being that the future cannot be accurately predicted, yet it is a good basis.

[cuenzy]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

That's right. The question is when? But I say in btc there has been proven range of supports and resistance from just looking in the price charts as it passed many waves of price action. The newbies are just too impatient for that to happen. They would be really be considered as a beginner if that mindset lasts.

[Golftech]

Markets always have circles, sometimes it goes up and other time down. I think its dangers just to look ad historical charts and then say that Bitcoin will go up around the next halving and the year after, like it have done the last 2 times.
Bitcoin will go up in price when more people buy Bitcoins and generate a real demand, this scenario will most likely happened in the next 2 years.

That's what it needs, more people to invest and more people that will use this system means  more demands, there's always a good timing for people who did well about reading and researching how things works around this new market, this temporary situations can be a good  time placing your entry, bullrun will be there even it will take some years or more.

[suzanne5223]

according to past market conditions, we can predict the bull market may start after 9 months of a downtrend and continue downfall of coins so we are in near ending of bear market but newbies have ample time to study new coins development process

Very few newbies actually learn about the fundamentals of the coins they are putting their money in. One of the basic things is to know the details of any asset before you put your money in it but thats not what these people want. The downside is they lose faith too early during the bear market because its tests them and they fail.

It is also bad for those who are watching and waiting for a bull market because panic selling starts. But they are the prey for the whales who are willing to buy the dump. Having a integral solid understanding of who bitcoin works should put some faith back in their minds.

I agree with what you said and what the OP of this thread was right and this is the reason why I told people which usually complain about making loses because the crypto market always return back to the bullrun season and the only things they need is to investment in the right which will always be supported by the community and never to loose faith no matter what since they have invested into the right coin.

[saumang2m]

At this time the price of Bitcoin has gone down considerably. Because of which new people are associated with Bitcoin. Those people are worried about the price of Bitcoin. Some people have even sold their coins. But we should not do that. Because whenever the price of Bitcoin goes down. So we should not be rushing. We should hold our investment till then. Unless the price increases.

[Deallove9]

prehistoric data is not an indicator of future events, there are much better reasons to be bullish on bitcoin

So you think the past has nothing to do with the present and future , then you have to sleep and wake again to rethink that cos nothing will push the price if not what people read and study about the past and comparing it to the present make people react , so if you think FA is only thing that has to push the price then you miss it cause it has no other way than to manipulate the price but TA gives what could happen and real trader use that and see the future in the past.

[Xardasim]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

I agree with the last words. No matter how much the price increases, people will always want more. Greed is in every human nature and it is impossible to change it.
We should not be so comfortable about price recover. There is always a risk and no one can guarantee that if the price goes down, it will definitely be returned.

[absurde]

Agree with you, it's the nature of cryptocurrency market, nothing can always decrease or increase. Newbies should be patient to earn money.

[susuberuang]

what you say is that there is always a bull run, it's just that nobody will know when a bull run can happen because now it's been too long to wait for a bull run to occur but until now the bull run is difficult to happen and nobody knows when it can happen.

[jhonjhon]

what you say is that there is always a bull run, it's just that nobody will know when a bull run can happen because now it's been too long to wait for a bull run to occur but until now the bull run is difficult to happen and nobody knows when it can happen.

Surprisingly it will come to us that is why nobody knows about it.  We not just wait on it come but instead we will start investing before and it surely big gains when it comes.
People usually start to buy coins when they saw bull run which is totally wrong. They never understand the way it works and in the world of business.

[jagdeepjd]

Yeah, new investors were among the most who panic sold and I think most of the weak hands are out already and we should be seeing a positive rally from here on. This week was good for bitcoin and overall market lets see how it continues in the next week then we will get some sort of confirmation.

[candra raditya]

I am still optimistic that bitcoin can still provide good profits in the future. Bitcoin is definitely able to recover in 2019 and maybe the value of 10k bitcoin can achieve it.

[wow.magic]

For sure it will always come and the good times will always come too so be patient, calm and wait when it comes and no need of being panic

Be patients and calm for waiting to increase the market value of bitcoin it will rise soon and be positive and optimistic and never panic cause when you panic your investment it will not gain profit.

[jake zyrus]

Agree with you, it's the nature of cryptocurrency market, nothing can always decrease or increase. Newbies should be patient to earn money.

It is normal in investing the value is up and down it is part of business in crypto world.  The newbies should have more patients to gain more profit from there investment in bitcoin cause patients is the key of success.

[GreatBug]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Probably most users have no doubt that the downward trend will end sometime and will start a bull run. The problem is that no one knows when it will happen, that is, when will be the best time for shopping and fill up our cryptocurrency baskets.

[KingScorpio]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Probably most users have no doubt that the downward trend will end sometime and will start a bull run. The problem is that no one knows when it will happen, that is, when will be the best time for shopping and fill up our cryptocurrency baskets.

i am no newbie and i am sure the entire market is going to crash

[norachuks]

That is why it is really necessary to do a thorough research before joining anything especially the crypto world so as not to panic unnecessary.

[KingScorpio]

That is why it is really necessary to do a thorough research before joining anything especially the crypto world so as not to panic unnecessary.

dont listen to what people are saying try rather do assumptions based on economical laws, but that needs a long and good education that only few have

[leetcoiner]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

To draw some conclusions, just watch the movement of the market and bitcoin in the history of existence. You will discover a lot of new things. In General, my parents always told me that history teaches us the future and that it has all the answers to any questions. Cryptocurrency trading and this applies to the full.

[Akpuv]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

It is true that there is no need being worried about the period the bullrun will start. It can happen at anytime. You just have to hold till that period.

[repsol]

This recent market obviously makes crypto investor, trader and users worried, moreover like me as small trader in crypto coins. I am worried if losing out my assets and I can not make daily profit from this bear market.
However, I try to believe that next will be the best time for bitcoin and the bull market is not just a dream.

[reynald70]

Indeed, for now the price looks like the Bull run has come, because the prices on the market are increasing quite high from the price of $ 3300 and currently has touched $ 4000. But for beginners it would be nice to research at this stage, because it could be that the bull run hasn't arrived yet, so no bad things will happen if you research first.

[acholagi]

newbies are selling in low, getting heavy damage, but investors are buying - newbies will never be pro if they can't grow a heart to take risks.

That's because newcomers don't know the crypto expert and establish friendships, if only they could discuss each other and exchange experiences, maybe newbies present at cryptocurrency would not sell their assets at low prices
now it's like bitcoin wants to die, but it's just the right moment to drive newbies who don't know anything about cryptocurrency

[Periodik]

That is correct, everything that is happening right now and those that have yet to happen are already explained by history. There is already enough information as to what is happening to Bitcoin and crypto right now. Bitcoin has been in service for 10 long years. There were countless of strong resistance coming from the traditional people, FUDs, bad news, dumps, and other negative events. And yet, Bitcoin is still here alive and well. Just believe.

[MuffinMaster]

This recent market obviously makes crypto investor, trader and users worried, moreover like me as small trader in crypto coins. I am worried if losing out my assets and I can not make daily profit from this bear market.
However, I try to believe that next will be the best time for bitcoin and the bull market is not just a dream.

If you do not have experience or knowledge, why are you trying to trade cryptocurrencies at all? Start with a demo version of a broker in stable currencies such as USD or EUR. Later try to play real money on these currencies and at the end try trading on the high risk market, which are cryptocurrencies. Just believing that you will earn, unfortunately, will not help. If you really want to earn, invest some amount in Bitcoin and forget about it for a few years.

[budiarmed]

Up and down is a normal thing that happens to crypto because the market conditions will always change, when there is a decline, we do not need to panic because it will not make the market die, stay patient because the increase will definitely occur.

[Shatterlean22]

I believe bullrun will come but my mind tells me not so soon like most expect ,the approval of bakkt and ETF might surge the price up but it will go down again I'm looking forward to year ending of 2019 to early 2020 ,all the samebits just speculation I hope things work out fine in the future

[GreatBug]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

Probably most users have no doubt that the downward trend will end sometime and will start a bull run. The problem is that no one knows when it will happen, that is, when will be the best time for shopping and fill up our cryptocurrency baskets.

i am no newbie and i am sure the entire market is going to crash

I think this market can only fail when better technology is invented, but I think it will not happen in next few decades. And even then, that market will be maintained and developed by supporters, as their hobby.

[cpoer2011]

Yea, bullrun will coming eventually but the exactly when we sill never know. So, do your own research before jumping into bitcoin or Altcoins marker.

[teejayrichard2]

bullrun will surely come sooner or later. Newbies are only scared because no one wants to loose money, some only invested because they want to make quick profit and so are scared seeing the fall in the bitcoin price

[Screamshot]

It's not only newbies that are worried about the condition of the market even experience folk also have there resentment towards the situation but I agree that the bull run would come along

[Ericks1]

Even the experts are more worried than newbies because they don't know their fate either.
Let's just hope the market has an uptrend and we all will smile because this is no more about expect or amatuer

[DAVETUN]

The bearish trend is beyond expectation in 2018, reason why most investors are scared, Am sure the bullrun will come, but its is always also scary that we cannot be sure when this will happen, most information are mostly  base on speculations and  past track record compererism. To avoid panic get research and be equipped with adequate cryptocurrency knowledge.

[Stargazer]

I think those newbies are not alive in crypto anymore. If you look carefully in every thread then you will see a very few amounts of newbie accounts are active at this moment . Only real crypto supporter and educated crypto enthusiasts are active now! Who knows everything will be fine, who believe a bright crypto future!
Everything has a bad time and good time. After ending this crypto bear run, the bitcoin bull run will come and BTC will show the world why it is the best!

[Anil.N]

So far as the cryptocurrency is still in existence we will never give up even when things fall apart there is definitely be a time for bullish run. We aware of the volatility of the market and that does not scare us because we aware of it.

[TheUltraElite]

bullrun will surely come sooner or later. Newbies are only scared because no one wants to loose money, some only invested because they want to make quick profit and so are scared seeing the fall in the bitcoin price

They are scared because they were fools to buy bitcoin when it was at the all time high. I dont blame the social media for pumping the price but I blame those who did not do their little bit of research as simple as checking the price charts. Any experienced trader of even the stock market would have immediately understood that the price was manipulated and it wont hold for long.

Even the experts are more worried than newbies because they don't know their fate either.
Let's just hope the market has an uptrend and we all will smile because this is no more about expect or amatuer

Experts are never worried. That is why they are experts. You may think otherwise because you are projecting your own worry in their face but you are not aware of the truth. They know that the long term effect on price is always bullish and they are waiting it out.

[St4yInTh3D4rk]

Bull run may came at any time,but the people are afraid for it is not going to happen and selling their coins when the prices falls.I am not interested in buying the cryptos for making money only but when you do the basics right you can make money for sure.

[yanesna3]

That is why it is really necessary to do a thorough research before joining anything especially the crypto world so as not to panic unnecessary.

Beginners must understand that the market now can deceive them. For instance, today, it can be red, and in several hours all the tokens and Bitcoin can go up very quickly. Be very attentive.

[PuertoLibre]

bullrun will surely come sooner or later. Newbies are only scared because no one wants to loose money, some only invested because they want to make quick profit and so are scared seeing the fall in the bitcoin price

They are scared because they were fools to buy bitcoin when it was at the all time high. I dont blame the social media for pumping the price but I blame those who did not do their little bit of research as simple as checking the price charts. Any experienced trader of even the stock market would have immediately understood that the price was manipulated and it wont hold for long.

Even the experts are more worried than newbies because they don't know their fate either.
Let's just hope the market has an uptrend and we all will smile because this is no more about expect or amatuer

Experts are never worried. That is why they are experts. You may think otherwise because you are projecting your own worry in their face but you are not aware of the truth. They know that the long term effect on price is always bullish and they are waiting it out.

Experts are not light in the darkness because they are spreading false,known analyzed information for guys who like to listen  them on TV. Long term investing is profitable because markets work in cycle that grows exponentially.

[creeps]

That is why it is really necessary to do a thorough research before joining anything especially the crypto world so as not to panic unnecessary.

Beginners must understand that the market now can deceive them. For instance, today, it can be red, and in several hours all the tokens and Bitcoin can go up very quickly. Be very attentive.

That’s true, this market now can deceive everyone in short term, so better to play long which is more good for the newbies than playing short term which is too risky for them. We should always believe that there's always hope after a big dump and always think that the trend will always reverse. Go for a positive life even if the market is not, think long term and you will see the great future of cryptocurrency in this growing market.

[richminded]

This is very much expected and I don’t know why people are still panicking. This market will not end easily, it will continue to fight and it will prove to those who hate it that cryptomarket is here to stay. Bull market will come in time, and newbies should believe on that. Don’t be afraid to buy good coins during a bear market, this is the best way to earn more profit in the future.

[Binauf]

One good thing about this space is nobody can predict what happens next. One minute  the market is green and everyone is with grins,  the next minute the market is red. Bullrun will always come when all the red flags have dropped,  it may not be too soon but it will come surely.

[FutureToken]

This isn't a bull run, we will have to wait for a while longer to see any fragment of bull run, even the slight possibility of a bull run.

[shoreno]

One good thing about this space is nobody can predict what happens next. One minute  the market is green and everyone is with grins,  the next minute the market is red. Bullrun will always come when all the red flags have dropped,  it may not be too soon but it will come surely.

Wrong . anyone can predict this market just by only basing on the news or any other factors but yeah the price can drop and rise unexpectedly however i dont agree that the bull run can always come because bull run is actually rare to occur . 

bearish trend is the one that occurs the most because more people are using their cryptos to profit or for business means . thats why most of them will sell persitently   .

[Dreamchaser21]

This isn't a bull run, we will have to wait for a while longer to see any fragment of bull run, even the slight possibility of a bull run.

It will not come easily, of course we have to wait for the right time and don’t panic at all. Bull run will always come because that is the only way for cryptocurrency to be recognize around the world, we will not stay in a bear market forever, this drama will end soon and everyone will be happy again because they will make big profit.

[ranman09]

Bitcoin will need to bull run that is what everyone wants. And what comes down must come up or else bitcoin will be doomed. Big holders wouldn't want that to happen so they will probably take action. Exchanging within themselves creating waves to attract more speculators.

[Aldrinx00]

Yes it will come but the question is when? There are factors that will start the bullrun like the SEC approving ETF'S but i think it will unlikely to happen soon. Moreover big companies, institutions, names will surely come and will impact the price of bitcoin substantially. But still the big question is when? Let's just be patient and wait.

[Bonsaiav]

None of the market participants know when Bullrun will come, everything is only answered by a prediction and waiting that is not certain. Nevertheless, we should remain optimistic and believe that market growth can grow at any time without us knowing it.

[Akoldi_ibk]

I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers

The fear of the unknown (when) is what I think is the major reason investors, experts and even the newbies alike are worried. No one knows when the bull will start the running and everyone won't love to be left behind. Presently, when you think the bottom is reached or a strong support is built up or a potential breakout is on the reach, there is always a sudden twist which render all predictions, speculations futile. I think this calls for many to be worried

[TheUltraElite]

Experts are not light in the darkness because they are spreading false,known analyzed information for guys who like to listen  them on TV.

First experts are called experts by the people because they give some valuable information. But people should not take them as financial advisors but take their words with a bit of salt. Remember that they are financially backed to support projects and promote projects even if they say they are not. It does not cost them to lie in front of people, obviously. So one should be cautious while listening to them because the actual market making is known to them but they wont reveal all the info.

Long term investing is profitable because markets work in cycle that grows exponentially.

Long term is always the safer bet. In short term you can ride a pump and exit to make some quick cash as well.