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June 30, 2019, 04:32:51 PM
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Kohli and Rohit wicket has left India in a difficult situation as run rate is climbing towards 11 . Now some body from here has to stay till end if they have to win  the match else it will be difficult for them to win it as England just require now couple of wickets to restrain  India .

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June 30, 2019, 06:40:43 PM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The way India played today's match, it looked like they were not serious at all about the match. They were so relaaaaaxxxxxed..... Please prove I'm wrong with logic about this accusation, maybe I'm not seeing a true fact.

 
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June 30, 2019, 08:23:51 PM
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So, it's early finalization of the 4 teams competing in the semi finals. No doubt the four teams were spectacular and deserved the position according to the game they played and entertainment they provided. England surely is a better team than Bangladesh or Pakistan. I'd  love to see how the Semi finals goes.

 
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June 30, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The way India played today's match, it looked like they were not serious at all about the match. They were so relaaaaaxxxxxed..... Please prove I'm wrong with logic about this accusation, maybe I'm not seeing a true fact.

This is one of those rare occasions when England actually won against India. And with the golden era players all retired, Indians have lost interest in Cricket to a huge degree. I know for a fact because a neighbor is Indian and another Pakistani. On every world cup occasion these two teams face off and they smash their TV's because the other team beat them. I am not even kidding. But this year.. nothing. Nothing at all.

I asked the Indian neighbor and he explained the reason to me. There is no passion left in Cricket for Indians as their ""god"" is not playing anymore. Their world cup winning "captain" is just losing his drive and no one is doing the technical fielding like 'Sarav ganguly"" used to... he's supposedly some ex captain or something.

All this talk made me watch the England match. It wasn't even a close contest.

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June 30, 2019, 09:29:58 PM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The funniest thing is, Indians weren't able to hide that they were intentionally losing. The way they played first ten overs of the batting inning, and the way MS Dhoni got strengthless at the end, it proved that they were playing a completely fixed game.

This is against the spirit of cricket, TBH. Plus they still have NOT qualified for the semi-finals, if they somehow (very unlikely, but it's still not impossible) lose to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, they'll be out of the world cup. Roll Eyes

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June 30, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The funniest thing is, Indians weren't able to hide that they were intentionally losing. The way they played first ten overs of the batting inning, and the way MS Dhoni got strengthless at the end, it proved that they were playing a completely fixed game.

This is against the spirit of cricket, TBH. Plus they still have NOT qualified for the semi-finals, if they somehow (very unlikely, but it's still not impossible) lose to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, they'll be out of the world cup. Roll Eyes

All major sporting events are fixed to a certain degree, yes I agree that India looked bad in this match and yes it did look like they were playing to lose. I was attacked last year for saying that the Champions League final was fixed which it clearly was and I'm glad to see that more people are waking up to this crap as it shouldn't be happening but money now rules over all sports. I also don't like when people say, India had an off day lol because it was easy to see what was going on here. They need England to make the finals as its played in their country and that the Ashes is also coming up soon so I wouldn't be surprised if it will be an England v Australia final with England winning and Australia winning the Ashes or the opposite way around.



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June 30, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The funniest thing is, Indians weren't able to hide that they were intentionally losing. The way they played first ten overs of the batting inning, and the way MS Dhoni got strengthless at the end, it proved that they were playing a completely fixed game.

This is against the spirit of cricket, TBH. Plus they still have NOT qualified for the semi-finals, if they somehow (very unlikely, but it's still not impossible) lose to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, they'll be out of the world cup. Roll Eyes

All major sporting events are fixed to a certain degree, yes I agree that India looked bad in this match and yes it did look like they were playing to lose. I was attacked last year for saying that the Champions League final was fixed which it clearly was and I'm glad to see that more people are waking up to this crap as it shouldn't be happening but money now rules over all sports. I also don't like when people say, India had an off day lol because it was easy to see what was going on here. They need England to make the finals as its played in their country and that the Ashes is also coming up soon so I wouldn't be surprised if it will be an England v Australia final with England winning and Australia winning the Ashes or the opposite way around.

I pretty much agree. This has neither happened for the first time nor for the last time. However, "the way" it happened, was literally the first time. Even the commentators had no words for what was going on with MS Dhoni.

If you really wanna fix it, at least make it look real! Wink

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June 30, 2019, 11:19:00 PM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The funniest thing is, Indians weren't able to hide that they were intentionally losing. The way they played first ten overs of the batting inning, and the way MS Dhoni got strengthless at the end, it proved that they were playing a completely fixed game.

This is against the spirit of cricket, TBH. Plus they still have NOT qualified for the semi-finals, if they somehow (very unlikely, but it's still not impossible) lose to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, they'll be out of the world cup. Roll Eyes

All major sporting events are fixed to a certain degree, yes I agree that India looked bad in this match and yes it did look like they were playing to lose. I was attacked last year for saying that the Champions League final was fixed which it clearly was and I'm glad to see that more people are waking up to this crap as it shouldn't be happening but money now rules over all sports. I also don't like when people say, India had an off day lol because it was easy to see what was going on here. They need England to make the finals as its played in their country and that the Ashes is also coming up soon so I wouldn't be surprised if it will be an England v Australia final with England winning and Australia winning the Ashes or the opposite way around.

I pretty much agree. This has neither happened for the first time nor for the last time. However, "the way" it happened, was literally the first time. Even the commentators had no words for what was going on with MS Dhoni.

If you really wanna fix it, at least make it look real! Wink
The funniest part was when I noticed Dhoni can't even lift the bat and also he was not in a hurry to make 2s 3s - he was taking the runs by walking.

I haven't seen the full match, just saw last 4 overs and I was able to notice something is fishy.

 
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July 01, 2019, 12:44:34 AM
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Who else thinks like me that India LOST the match INTENTIONALLY to support England as to join the last 4, so that Pakistan and Bangladesh don't get a chance?

The way India played today's match, it looked like they were not serious at all about the match. They were so relaaaaaxxxxxed..... Please prove I'm wrong with logic about this accusation, maybe I'm not seeing a true fact.

Former Pakistan batsman Basit Ali actually did say in an interview that they would probably do that on purpose to "avoid" Pakistan. So this theory could probably be true.
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So, it's early finalization of the 4 teams competing in the semi finals. No doubt the four teams were spectacular and deserved the position according to the game they played and entertainment they provided. England surely is a better team than Bangladesh or Pakistan. I'd  love to see how the Semi finals goes.

England needs to win their final match against New Zealand. If they fail to do that, then a chance opens for either Pakistan or Bangladesh. Sri Lanka seems to be out of contention. Even if they win both their matches, they will finish behind England due to their poor NRR (in case England losses to NZ). Tomorrow's match is going to be crucial for Bangladesh. They need to win against India.

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In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history.  Wink so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.


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Majority of the viewers had the same thinking that Indians were playing a fixed game. As the opponent of India being the one to host the world cup without them into the semi finals it won't be that interesting and in terms of ticketing profit too there will be big down. To overcome all these problems the match was made an intentionally fixed game which paves path for England enter the semis while Pakistan and Bangladesh under winning pressure.

The opportunity is still there for Pakistan. They need to beat Bangladesh and in that case they will be left with 11 points. The last match for England is against New Zealand, and if they lose that one then they'll finish with 10 points. For Bangladesh, it is going to be tough. They need to win tomorrow against India. If they lose, then they are out of the tournament.

 
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In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history.  Wink so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.

Hmmm... do you have anything else to add if I tell you that I'm still not convinced and I still believe that India lost it on purpose? Cheesy

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In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history.  Wink so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.

Hmmm... do you have anything else to add if I tell you that I'm still not convinced and I still believe that India lost it on purpose? Cheesy
I have some thoughts to add up to this. If it wasn't fixed then the English bowlers who has to be credited could've taken all the wickets. Another thing every player of India can never be pin pointed that they didn't perform well as they maintained good strike rate. The important thing that need to be noticed is the game plan and the way they took it forward without hitting big when the player was supposed, makes it a confirmed game fixed for the winning of England.

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July 01, 2019, 09:36:45 PM
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Raja Bhai and Everone

In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history.  Wink so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.

Hmmm... do you have anything else to add if I tell you that I'm still not convinced and I still believe that India lost it on purpose? Cheesy
I have some thoughts to add up to this. If it wasn't fixed then the English bowlers who has to be credited could've taken all the wickets. Another thing every player of India can never be pin pointed that they didn't perform well as they maintained good strike rate. The important thing that need to be noticed is the game plan and the way they took it forward without hitting big when the player was supposed, makes it a confirmed game fixed for the winning of England.
The world is talking about this - no way to hide from millions of eyes. Those who watched the match can easily notice the game is fixed. I just saw the last 4 overs and I felt that something is wrong.

Anyways, this is not good for CRICKET, it is a gentleman game.

 
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July 01, 2019, 10:51:10 PM
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It was fixed 100%, the ones who think other wise really need to look at the match again. Remember one thing players train almost daily so they know what they are doing, batsman can easily go out and bowlers can easily bowl balls in the right spots for batsman to score the runs, fielders can drop easy catches, the list goes on lol. How many easy catches do we see and say how did they drop that, well because they train they can make it look good just like acting. People really need to start waking up to fixed sports and just so everyone knows I'm not an Indian cricket fan as I'm an Australian fan but I could clearly see that something shady was going on in the match.



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July 02, 2019, 12:18:10 AM
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I think it will be Australia vs New Zealand then England vs India at the semis
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July 02, 2019, 02:13:35 AM
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I think it will be Australia vs New Zealand then England vs India at the semis

Nothing is confirmed as of now. Today we have India vs Bangladesh. In case Bangladesh manages to win (which is a very remote possibility), then they can keep their semi-final hopes alive. Pakistan is also having an outside chance, they need to beat Bangladesh and then England should lose to New Zealand. But as the things stand, your prediction looks like the most probable one.

 
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July 02, 2019, 08:40:57 AM
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I hope India plays well today. There were talks that Virat may change one opener but since Vijay is out, I guess Rishab may be a choice and they also brought in Mayank Agarwal. Rahul may be pushed back to his earlier position.

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