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December 27, 2018, 07:41:42 PM |
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it is a great way to make a lot of accounts and the problem of dumper coin prices can be solved, it will make the gift program and its participants have better quality as well as projects and coins, if all the requirements are fulfilled it will be very profitable even for participants bounty because bounty hunters will receive tokens from good projects that will continue to grow which of course the price of the tokens will certainly be good
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Fedrey
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December 27, 2018, 07:48:23 PM |
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it is a great way to make a lot of accounts and the problem of dumper coin prices can be solved, it will make the gift program and its participants have better quality as well as projects and coins, if all the requirements are fulfilled it will be very profitable even for participants bounty because bounty hunters will receive tokens from good projects that will continue to grow which of course the price of the tokens will certainly be good
I am sure that the participants of the Bounty company do not sell their tokens immediately after distribution if it is a really promising project. The team itself should work on promoting its project, and not think only about the money earned from investments.
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markalis
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December 27, 2018, 08:25:43 PM |
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dumps occur due to many factors, one of which is that fundamentals are still very weak, only token holders are able to control it, and they must have a pretty good volume
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ganeshramk
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December 27, 2018, 08:27:13 PM |
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Its not easy to find the good ICO or bad ICO. Thats the big issue at this moment. There should be some way to keep the scammers out of this ICO area. Then it will become interesting.
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December 28, 2018, 04:17:49 AM |
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Dumping can be done by any individual or group who invested or received rewards as a promoter or advisor if there's no lockup period and anyone who bought a large allocation at a sizable discount is going to have a big impact on the price if they liquidate as soon as a secondary market opens in order to make profits
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modmalaney
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December 28, 2018, 04:41:25 AM |
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the best Manager and also the KYC may not guarantee certainty. many new managers currently have sprung up, in fact, it delivers a pretty good job. In contrast to manager can be said already experienced even started a lot of stopping even entered in the scam. regarding KYC may look good, but when this was applied in the bounty then quite a lot of unbelievers and even consider this as identity theft.
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December 28, 2018, 04:57:00 AM |
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I agree with this line of thought. I believe if the team behind a good ICO see their project as good, they must make adequate plan for price dump protection. There are many ways by which this could ve accomplished, for example; they could by back their token, or lock large percentage of token to create demand!
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batang_bitcoin
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December 28, 2018, 05:00:16 AM |
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You can't just protect an ICO from the dumping folks.
Why is it that when there are dumps, the one that gets blamed are the bounty hunters? how big usually is the allocation that they get from the total circulating supply of that token? it is around 1%-10%. You should question the devs but you can't figure it out unless you follow their balance addresses.
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December 28, 2018, 05:04:57 AM |
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Its not easy to find the good ICO or bad ICO. Thats the big issue at this moment. There should be some way to keep the scammers out of this ICO area. Then it will become interesting.
I do not agree with you that it is impossible to know if the ICO project is good or bad, it is important that you try to know. Only when you want to know and investigate it will you know if it is good or bad. And the interesting thing is always the good ICO, the real project ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 28, 2018, 01:07:08 PM |
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I agree with all these ideas in theory, but some other factors come into play. I have worked in an successful ICO that is listed on CoinMarketCap and has a fully working platform with over 30k signups and growing daily.
- Getting onto reputable exchanges is very tough. They usually command a very large amount of your token supply + a quite large one off payment. Although this is the key, some ICOs that have not raised astronomical amounts still struggle to meet that price / tokens. Also it means that the company loses a lot of its control as a large exchange can control their token.
All the others I agree with especially the communication part, transparency is key when explaining any issues, updates or changes in the roadmap due to unforeseen circumstances.
I think what you state is correct, but also you have to remember that ICO projects (most of them) want as much exposure as possible to reach their hard caps and sometimes creating KYCs when not needed can hinder their ability to reach their mass audience.
I think the main issues are:-
- Planning - I have worked with a few ICOs and things are not planned out, they jump into things and then work it out. That can be interesting and mostly because the market is always changing, but means that some things do get missed.
- The market itself. All it takes is for a company to get hit by a bear market and they are in serious danger of not raising their capital, which means their idea / startup does go under potentially. Again this is connected with planning, as if they thought ahead they could prepare for all situations.
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jan.nicolas
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December 28, 2018, 02:08:52 PM |
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dumps occur due to many factors, one of which is that fundamentals are still very weak, only token holders are able to control it, and they must have a pretty good volume
The most important thing you can do to protect yourself from this is, of course, protecting your project by attracting interest only through economic impacts and incentives. The conclusion of partnership agreements.
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DarkIT
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December 28, 2018, 02:11:13 PM |
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Dumping can be done by any individual or group who invested or received rewards as a promoter or advisor if there's no lockup period and anyone who bought a large allocation at a sizable discount is going to have a big impact on the price if they liquidate as soon as a secondary market opens in order to make profits
I thought that even for very good ICO it would be very difficult to avoid a dump. we never know, investors, or bounty hunters who sell their assets in a short time, and of course that will make a real effect on the price.
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December 28, 2018, 05:56:02 PM |
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no wonder there were some ICOs even though the koi had entered the market, they held the koi for campaign participants with distributed prizes for fear of being dumped, I waited 12 months for distribution
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December 28, 2018, 05:59:22 PM |
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et's look at the truth. Who destroys this market. Investors or Hunters?
How many hunters we get 1.000.000 tokens for 300-500 people. And investors? If the project is large. They bring to the stock exchange 500 000 tokens at the lowest price. What destroys the token at the start of trading on the exchange.
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December 28, 2018, 06:34:54 PM |
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You can't just protect an ICO from the dumping folks.
Why is it that when there are dumps, the one that gets blamed are the bounty hunters? how big usually is the allocation that they get from the total circulating supply of that token? it is around 1%-10%. You should question the devs but you can't figure it out unless you follow their balance addresses.
If the devs is really serious about his project, it won't be a problem for them to accomodate some coins owned by bounty hunters. I think 1% -5% of the total supply is not too much. It would be great if there was a project like that, like previously Populous Platform project that their tokens rising 10x from ICO price shortly after the ICO ends, who easily accommodates all the bounty tokens owned by hunter bounties.
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December 28, 2018, 06:40:30 PM |
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WHen people think ICO as an short term investor then how caan we stop them from selling their coins and tokens when it listed on exchanges,if someone hold too long they are taking huge risk because once the price dumped means they may not recover forever so making the profits at the right time is indeed.
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December 28, 2018, 07:01:17 PM |
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I don't think it will be possible, as the dump is made not only by bounty hunters, but also by investors. Everyone wants to make a profit and drain quickly, because of this and the problem.
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December 29, 2018, 03:25:53 AM |
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I don't think it will be possible, as the dump is made not only by bounty hunters, but also by investors. Everyone wants to make a profit and drain quickly, because of this and the problem.
Firstly, there's no way a good ICOs can be protected from the current dump in the crypto market because all the coins and tokens were all affected. However, I dont see any reason why project investors will be among those that dump the price of the project they invested because investment in crypto currency means trusting/believing in the future promising of the project. But, the early miners of the new project are the one to be held responsible for the dump in price of the project and we have read about the man(early BTC miner) that bought a big pizza with huge amount of BTC then so same thing still happen with new project either.
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December 29, 2018, 03:37:19 AM |
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How good an ICOs project is doesn't justify it been protected from dump because it the move and strategy planned/applied by the strategy team of the project will determine if the project will be protected from the current dump in price which the crypto sphere encountered. However, most ICOs owner used the buyback and hold to make more profit strategy.
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December 29, 2018, 03:40:59 AM |
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After careful research, when you see a good ICO, you would know and there will be no doubt about it. I have noticed that good ICOs also dump after listing, competing with crap ones that have no definite direction, but to cart away funds. There are ways in which they can be protected and prevent unreasonable dump in price. Some of which are:
1. They should be managed by credible and trusted managers, managers that already have good reputation on the forum, else the trust might not be there.
2. KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants in order to avoid multiple accounts. The kyc should be announced
3. Participants should be made to complete the remaining process of their registrations on the project's website, where IP can be detected. Multiple accounts can also be prevented this way.
4. Listing should be done on reliable and reputable exchange sites.
5. There should be regular and prompt communication with the community.
6. Projects should maintain and comply to their roadmaps and if there is amendment, the community should be made to know, with concrete reasons.
Additional suggestion: 7. An approach that will create the demand for tokens, which can as well prevent dump, is the lockup of certain percentage of the tokens. Some percentage of the tokens belonging to; the team, advisors, investors, promoters and bounty participants. The main tokens for the investors should be released, at least to compensate them for the money invested, but their bonuses should be locked for certain period of time. Which is followed by their gradual release.
These are just few among so many other solutions, but if this few are integrated into the system, i believe dump can be minimized if not totally eliminated.
I agree with your idea on protecting any good project, it will be able to makes the crypto market better. but what hard would be the people, we can't really control them, cause usually who makes the market drop is because some people dropping the price of the coins because the sell them out of panic or just try to sell them ASAP without thinking about profit or anything.
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