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January 14, 2019, 10:45:58 PM
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Man, how are you going to protect ICO from dump? To my mind it is quite impossible. It seems to me that you've got to analyze it and your analysis is kind of protection. It is your choice and you are responsible for doing that. Next level of protections is government regulation

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January 14, 2019, 10:53:41 PM
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Good Ico do that. KYC is one of the solution for the dump because mostly the bounty hunters have multiple accoumt once they are join to bounty campaigns once the token list to market they have a lot of token that cause dumping value of tokens and convert it to bitcoins and sell their bitcoins to cash so that is why the market are really affected because of this but not all because of this it is one of the cause of dumping.
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January 14, 2019, 11:07:12 PM
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Man, how are you going to protect ICO from dump? To my mind it is quite impossible. It seems to me that you've got to analyze it and your analysis is kind of protection. It is your choice and you are responsible for doing that. Next level of protections is government regulation
This kind of method will be quite impossible. Not sure about the governments want to create a protection consider we are living on the manipulating market. When bitcoin gets a hard dump and the whole of people are feeling panic and wanna liquidate their coin asap.

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January 14, 2019, 11:28:39 PM
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I don't agree that KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants. managers have to find another solution to avoid multiple accounts.

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January 14, 2019, 11:31:42 PM
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I don't agree that KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants. managers have to find another solution to avoid multiple accounts.
KYC also can prevent the expected dump after listing coin. Bounty participants are first batch of sellers after starting bell on exchanges. There is no proper solution due to unexpected attacks by speculants and reward owners.
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January 14, 2019, 11:36:15 PM
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After careful research, when you see a good ICO, you would know and there will be no doubt about it.
I have noticed that good ICOs also dump after listing, competing with crap ones that have no definite direction, but to cart away funds.
There are ways in which they can be protected and prevent unreasonable dump in price. Some of which are:

1. They should be managed by credible and trusted managers, managers that already have good reputation on the forum, else the trust might not be there.

2. KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants in order to avoid multiple accounts. The kyc should be announced

3. Participants should be made to complete the remaining process of their registrations on the project's website, where IP can be detected. Multiple accounts can also be prevented this way.

4. Listing should be done on reliable and reputable exchange sites.

5. There should be regular and prompt communication with the community.

6. Projects should maintain and comply to their roadmaps and if there is amendment, the community should be made to know, with concrete reasons.

Additional suggestion:
7. An approach that will create the demand for tokens, which can as well prevent dump, is the lockup of certain percentage of the tokens.
Some percentage of the tokens belonging to; the team, advisors, investors, promoters and bounty participants.
The main tokens for the investors should be released, at least to compensate them for the money invested, but their bonuses should be locked for certain period of time. Which is followed by their gradual release.

These are just few among so many other solutions, but if this few are integrated into the system, i believe dump can be minimized if not totally eliminated.

I got a question. Does the bounty participants have a large affect on the price of the token when it hit exchange? I don't think it has, considering the percentage of tokens allocated for bounty campaigns. I doubt it has that big effect on how the price goes in the market. I think dumpers are those investors with bonuses in their investments made a huge impact on on the price drop after listed on exchanges.

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January 14, 2019, 11:59:21 PM
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In reality and ico can do everything right and still dump in the market. Project teams can only try as much as they and to prevent this from happening but if the project itself lacks quality and its token sales sold out based on hype and astronomical bonuses, then an eventual dump is inevitable.

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January 14, 2019, 11:59:27 PM
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I don't agree that KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants. managers have to find another solution to avoid multiple accounts.
Well kyc can not prevent the fall of the coin, I think you need to competently enter the market that the coin was not at the bottom!

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January 15, 2019, 12:23:39 AM
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After careful research, when you see a good ICO, you would know and there will be no doubt about it.
I have noticed that good ICOs also dump after listing, competing with crap ones that have no definite direction, but to cart away funds.
There are ways in which they can be protected and prevent unreasonable dump in price. Some of which are:

1. They should be managed by credible and trusted managers, managers that already have good reputation on the forum, else the trust might not be there.

2. KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants in order to avoid multiple accounts. The kyc should be announced

3. Participants should be made to complete the remaining process of their registrations on the project's website, where IP can be detected. Multiple accounts can also be prevented this way.

4. Listing should be done on reliable and reputable exchange sites.

5. There should be regular and prompt communication with the community.

6. Projects should maintain and comply to their roadmaps and if there is amendment, the community should be made to know, with concrete reasons.

Additional suggestion:
7. An approach that will create the demand for tokens, which can as well prevent dump, is the lockup of certain percentage of the tokens.
Some percentage of the tokens belonging to; the team, advisors, investors, promoters and bounty participants.
The main tokens for the investors should be released, at least to compensate them for the money invested, but their bonuses should be locked for certain period of time. Which is followed by their gradual release.

These are just few among so many other solutions, but if this few are integrated into the system, i believe dump can be minimized if not totally eliminated.

I want to tackle 2, the truth is if you implement kyc and aml, it doesnt stop any project from dumping, even record has it that most projects with kyc dumps faster.
The basic goal is to simply ensure that the tokens hodlers do not have full circulation. i.e if an investors buy 100,000 tokens, it should be sent to them installmentally within months and the same should apply to bounty hunters as well.
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January 15, 2019, 12:30:26 AM
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if ico is considered good and wants to keep its exchange rate stable and can rise, it will delay the process of launching tokens to the market exchange. so even though the bounty hunter or investor already has ico tokens, they can't sell it yet.

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January 15, 2019, 12:30:47 AM
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After careful research, when you see a good ICO, you would know and there will be no doubt about it.
I have noticed that good ICOs also dump after listing, competing with crap ones that have no definite direction, but to cart away funds.
There are ways in which they can be protected and prevent unreasonable dump in price. Some of which are:

1. They should be managed by credible and trusted managers, managers that already have good reputation on the forum, else the trust might not be there.

2. KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants in order to avoid multiple accounts. The kyc should be announced

3. Participants should be made to complete the remaining process of their registrations on the project's website, where IP can be detected. Multiple accounts can also be prevented this way.

4. Listing should be done on reliable and reputable exchange sites.

5. There should be regular and prompt communication with the community.

6. Projects should maintain and comply to their roadmaps and if there is amendment, the community should be made to know, with concrete reasons.

Additional suggestion:
7. An approach that will create the demand for tokens, which can as well prevent dump, is the lockup of certain percentage of the tokens.
Some percentage of the tokens belonging to; the team, advisors, investors, promoters and bounty participants.
The main tokens for the investors should be released, at least to compensate them for the money invested, but their bonuses should be locked for certain period of time. Which is followed by their gradual release.

These are just few among so many other solutions, but if this few are integrated into the system, i believe dump can be minimized if not totally eliminated.

I want to tackle 4 as well, listing on well known exchanges has little impact on your project value, so do not be deceived.
What matters most is the product we are talking about.

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January 15, 2019, 01:07:06 AM
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I agree with all you posted excepted the number two it's like promoting KYC when it is against the rule of decentralization, and we have seen how in the past ICO doing KYC for all participants only to vanish after a few months.

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January 15, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
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Most of ICO companies doesn't care about their token price after their sale end, which is bad for their reputation.
They are too afraid to spend money to protect the value of their coin. I think if they let their token price down, it can damage their token permanently.
If the token value gone too low, they will have difficulty to gain the value back, even at least back to ICO price.

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January 15, 2019, 09:30:47 AM
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That's right, these are just a few solutions to the problems associated with the quality of the token that projects are releasing!

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January 15, 2019, 09:32:45 AM
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Most of ICO companies doesn't care about their token price after their sale end, which is bad for their reputation.
I believe they care but the price in the exchange is out of their control, it's the owner of the token who are in control.
Never expect that the price will rise after it's listed, sometimes it will but given the market situation, price will likely to go down and the company you said already knew it, that's why sometimes some are not rushing in listing their tokens.
They are too afraid to spend money to protect the value of their coin. I think if they let their token price down, it can damage their token permanently.
If the token value gone too low, they will have difficulty to gain the value back, even at least back to ICO price.
The way I see it, you like them to manipulate the price, I don't think they will do it, besides, what benefits they would get,
Maybe they can protect for some time but not in the longer run.
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January 15, 2019, 11:50:19 AM
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As good as those suggestions are, no one can really prevent coin or token holders from selling at a cheap price. Even measures such as having lock-up period can only prevents dumping temporarily.

A lot of ICOs looks good on paper. You'll only find out which ones are really good during and after development phase.
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January 15, 2019, 12:14:58 PM
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In order for tokens not to lose their value after listing on the stock exchanges, they must be in demand, be it a good or bad project. If there is demand, the price will increase. There will be no demand - the price of tokens will be reduced until demand appears.
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I don't agree that KYC should be made mandatory for all bounty and airdrop participants. managers have to find another solution to avoid multiple accounts.
KYC also can prevent the expected dump after listing coin. Bounty participants are first batch of sellers after starting bell on exchanges. There is no proper solution due to unexpected attacks by speculants and reward owners.
The only best solution to paid the major exchange site, if you have seen the fact that most of big platforms are getting listed on the binance from the first time has not gotten a big dump. Volume plays a very important role in this thing.

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January 15, 2019, 01:38:22 PM
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i think we can't fight for dump after listing , especially when there bounty for it , but quality wont lie , if that ico really have good quality it will make more investor to invest for it and hold together
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January 15, 2019, 02:07:12 PM
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Good protecting from the dump is inevitable some projects once listed in exchange can be dumped for 90 percent soon they will get recovered from positive movement so ico companies can do measurements for coins nt to dump
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